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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses
« Reply #1560 on: March 26, 2016, 12:16:50 AM »
Excellent photos & site ....Thanks to fdce54 for finding it & the original photographer for taking the pictures & Thanks to the fellow who chronicled them.

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses
« Reply #1561 on: March 26, 2016, 05:48:40 AM »
1946 photo of the E 114 St off 5th Av Harlem FH originally the early Sections (not Fire War Years) of LAD*26 then LAD*26 & ENG*58 until the early '60s....this is the same FH in the previously posted video entitled "Fire In The City" filmed in 1951 when both Units were #1 in R&W in NYC ....A NYC Housing Project sits on the site since the '60s... http://www.ebay.com/itm/46-Hook-And-Ladder-Fire-Dept-26-E-114th-St-Manhattan-NYC-Old-Photo-Negative-68A/381580548350?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D36188%26meid%3Da7db56673fdb4495bd076c3a9ecd39fa%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D371581195226
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« Reply #1562 on: March 26, 2016, 08:27:40 AM »
This photo shows Intervale Ave looking north from E. 169 St taken in 1942 by Percy Loomis Sperr. On the left you can see the quarters of E82/L31 and the neighborhood before the arson and blight of the 60's and 70's.

This is what it looks like today.

Photo credits to Al Ponte's Time Machine.

  Thank you "fdce54" as well. Great comparisons of "then and now". That street and the firehouse on it made National News during the arson of the FDNY War Years. As we know, the book "Report from Engine Co 82" was written based on the members of that firehouse and the surrounding firehouses. Two presidents visited the area as well and it made national headlines. All because there were so many fires there and that street didn't look like that picture anymore.

  If I remember the building in the center of that old picture was a public school. It was on Intervale Ave and Chisolm St (spelling ?). I think there was an arson fire in that school and one of the guys from Ladder 31 had gotten hurt pretty bad. I think I remember reading about it in the newspaper. Maybe some of the guys remember it.

  We know today, about the only thing that looks the same in that old picture is the firehouse that was once referred to as "LaCasa Granda".

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« Reply #1563 on: March 26, 2016, 09:47:46 AM »
1946 photo of the E 114 St off 5th Av Harlem FH originally the early Sections (not Fire War Years) of LAD*26 then LAD*26 & ENG*58 until the early '60s....this is the same FH in the previously posted video entitled "Fire In The City" filmed in 1951 when both Units were #1 in R&W in NYC ....A NYC Housing Project sits on the site since the '60s... http://www.ebay.com/itm/46-Hook-And-Ladder-Fire-Dept-26-E-114th-St-Manhattan-NYC-Old-Photo-Negative-68A/381580548350?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D36188%26meid%3Da7db56673fdb4495bd076c3a9ecd39fa%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D371581195226

Chief I don't think that is 26-58 old firehouse.The House I remember had three bays,looking at the front 58 was in the right bay,26 was in the center bay,and Water Tower was in the left bay. The Firehouse was on E.114 St between Madison and Park. I remember the running board for E58 as they had 1st due Boxes and the truck wasn't assigned because of all the single units around them except for 91-43, I'm thinking 1954 or '55 was the first time I was there.

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« Reply #1564 on: March 26, 2016, 03:50:49 PM »
OK we need some more clarification on this...i know ENG*58s old single FH is still around &  i thought before 58 moved in w/LAD*26 (as in the 1951"Fire In The City" video) that the earlier 2 Sections of 26 were in the FH...yes also at some point there was a Water Tower w/26...but i don't remember a 3 bay FH other than 91/43 on 111 St bet 2 & 3 Aves which had a Reserve Ladder & DV*4 there also........the other 3 bay FH in Manhattan was/is on 181 St w/ENG*93/LAD*45/BN*13 .....anybody have any ideas on the FH photo ?   
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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses
« Reply #1565 on: March 26, 2016, 03:55:37 PM »
Just as a side note, the FF standing by the door is in full dress uniform. Back in the day the house watch had to wear the whole "bag" including the uniform cap. Times have changed,eh.

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« Reply #1566 on: March 26, 2016, 04:43:07 PM »
mm you are correct....years ago it was the Uniform worn by the HW ....in the '60s/'70s it reverted somewhat the coat & hat w/badge were dropped & a small wood plate w/your name & badge number would be affixed to the side of the house watch area while you were doing your 3 hr stint....during non HW tours you wore dungarees & a light blue chambray shirt but for HW you put on a pair of blue chino pants (similar to the work pants of today)  & a Uniform shirt & tie .....today you can't tell the HW apart from any other FF.......when i was on the Fire Patrol for a short while before coming OTJ nobody liked doing HW because on the Patrol the HW was required to stay behind in qtrs during a run & chronicle info from the Dept radio for the Insurance Companies.

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« Reply #1567 on: March 26, 2016, 04:47:18 PM »
   52 E. 114th St. firehouse was a 2 bay station opened July 1, 1904 built for a double Ladder 26 and Water Tower 4. Water Tower 4 was there from day one until March 9, 1957. The 2nd section of Ladder 26 was disbanded on Nov. 1st, 1946 so there was room for E58 to be moved in there in 1948 from their own house at 81 West 115th St. The original 2nd section of Ladder 26 was reorganized on March 11, 1957 right after Water Tower 4 was disbanded and was in service until April 20, 1959. Side note: The 1957-1959 reorganization of L26(2) was because L22's 2nd section had to be taken out of 766 Amsterdam Ave. to make room for Engine 76 and Battalion 11 who were moving in because their firehouse on West 102nd St. was being demolished for a NYCHA Project. BTW, Engine 76's old firehouse was a 2 bay house built for a double E76. That 2nd section was disbanded in 1946.

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses
« Reply #1568 on: March 26, 2016, 05:09:18 PM »
gman Thanks for the info on the FH.

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses
« Reply #1569 on: March 26, 2016, 05:27:43 PM »
Is E 7/ TL 1/ B 1 house a three bay house?

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses
« Reply #1570 on: March 26, 2016, 05:56:39 PM »
Is E 7/ TL 1/ B 1 house a three bay house?
Yes, 100 Duane Street has three garage bays. The third bay is separated from the other two and formerly housed the Fire Museum.

Also, interesting info on 26's old house. Thanks for sharing guys.
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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses
« Reply #1571 on: March 26, 2016, 07:11:05 PM »
Circa 1948 or thereabouts an underwriter report was recommending consolidation of FDNY firehouses from as few as 52 up to 82 being shuttered for greater efficiency . As it turned out only a very few were enacted evidently E58 being one, E76, L9 and E13 and a few in other boroughs as well.

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« Reply #1572 on: March 26, 2016, 07:43:37 PM »
Gman where did you get that info??  I must be hallucinating  LMAO   I can picture the fh in my head. I used to walk from 58 & 26 to 91 & 43 then get on the Lex subway at 110 St. Maybe just maybe I got them mixed up???

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« Reply #1573 on: March 26, 2016, 08:34:34 PM »
The third Bay and upstairs  on Duane St was the command post for the WTC Rescue and Recovery.
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« Reply #1574 on: March 26, 2016, 09:02:14 PM »
Circa 1948 or thereabouts an underwriter report was recommending consolidation of FDNY firehouses from as few as 52 up to 82 being shuttered for greater efficiency . As it turned out only a very few were enacted evidently E58 being one, E76, L9 and E13 and a few in other boroughs as well.
  May of 1944 saw E211, E251 & L119 move to a former commercial laundry bldg. at 26 Hooper St., Feb. 26, 1945 saw E8 go to L2 (2 bay FH at 126 E. 50th St.), Nov. 1, 1946 saw disbandment of L26(2), E91(2) & E283(2). Jan 1, 1947 saw disbandment of E4, E19, E20, E25, E29, E76(2). March 1, 1947- L116 moved from 38-11 Northern Blvd. to E261 @37-20-29th St.; Feb 9, 1948- E214 moved from 231 Herkimer St. to L111 @399 Halsey St.(E214's 1938 Ahrens-Fox didn't fit in FH so they swapped with E222 for 222's 1920's ALF); In Nov. 1948 there was a consolidation of a few firehouses:  E13 from Wooster St. to L20 @155 Mercer St. (house was once home to a double L20). E60 from 352 E. 137th St. to L17 @341 E. 143rd St.(2 bay former double ladder FH). Nov. 22, 1948- L9 moved from 209 Elizabeth St. to Engine 33's big 2 bay FH. June 26, 1949 saw E227 go from 979 Herkimer St. to L123 @423 Ralph Ave. & L110 from 264 State St. to join E207 @365 Jay St.