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« Reply #150 on: September 27, 2018, 08:10:29 AM »
 Regarding the above Reply # 148 "Presentation to Seal team", something that a few of us have recently discussed.

 About halfway down in that very well told reflection of Americas Worst Day, beginning with the sentence; "It was early afternoon September 11, 2001". Then continuing on with the next sentence "American F-15..."

 I believe that those US Fighter Jets were "UNARMED". The pilots orders were to crash into any other planes as a suicide mission. I think one of those pilots was a female and she later wrote a book about it.

 It was later learned that those F-15s were NOT armed, but to be used to bring down any aircraft in the area. Those pilots left with the idea that they may never return in order to save more innocent lives.

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« Reply #150 on: September 27, 2018, 08:10:29 AM »

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« Reply #151 on: September 27, 2018, 08:33:43 AM »
True initially the jets scrambled to intercept and protect the airspace were unarmed which was common practice back then. Within a day the USS George Washington (CVN-73) and embarked armed air wing came on station off the coast. The ship had an emergency recall to get underway. In port watch teams started the reactor start up process.

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« Reply #152 on: September 27, 2018, 10:19:23 AM »
To my knowledge, the F 15s from Otis on Cape Cod were armed.  They carried six missiles and 940 rounds of 20 millimeter ammunition capable of being cannon-fired at 100 shots per second.  They could have shot down an aircraft, if launched ASAP and if they had appropriate orders, neither of which happened.

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« Reply #153 on: September 27, 2018, 11:18:36 AM »
I think what Willy is referring to is two New Jersey Air Guard F-16s that flew up from McGuire AFB completely unarmed. The two pilots were the unit commander and the second pilot was a female. I saw her on a televised interview where she told of her commander telling her when they were airborne that if they encountered any planes that would not respond to orders to land they would have to ram that plane with their planes to bring it down. She said she understood and would have followed his order. Thank God they did not have to do that.

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« Reply #154 on: September 27, 2018, 02:46:58 PM »
I think what Willy is referring to is two New Jersey Air Guard F-16s that flew up from McGuire AFB completely unarmed. The two pilots were the unit commander and the second pilot was a female. I saw her on a televised interview where she told of her commander telling her when they were airborne that if they encountered any planes that would not respond to orders to land they would have to ram that plane with their planes to bring it down. She said she understood and would have followed his order. Thank God they did not have to do that.

Frank - You are correct.  The F 16s were not armed.  One of the pilots has shared her event. 

One thing to keep in mind - no one anticipated a hijacking with a suicide mission to crash into a building.  The concerns were to intercept foreign aircraft attacks (a carryover from the Cold War) or to assist local law enforcement if a hijacking occurred.  Bringing down an American aircraft was almost impossible to comprehend. 

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« Reply #155 on: September 28, 2018, 12:01:52 AM »
The f 15s are now no longer based at cape code there at Barnes air field in Massachusetts
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« Reply #156 on: September 28, 2018, 12:03:06 AM »
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« Reply #160 on: January 10, 2019, 07:20:02 PM »
2018 WTC RELATED LODDs.... REST IN PEACE TO ALL ....PRAYERS FOR THE COMFORT OF THE FAMILIES.... http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/insider/resources/do/2019/005_sup_3_2019_eoe.pdf

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« Reply #161 on: January 10, 2019, 08:11:49 PM »
 The FDNY, its members, the families and friends continue to pay a very steep price for that horrible day of September 11, 2001.

 The names of 24 more members will be added to that wall. But the number of family and friends who mourn their loss is much more than that.

 May those 24 members, along with the previous 177 names on that wall, plus the 343 FDNY firefighters including an FD chaplain and 2 paramedics, along with the 23 NYC police officers and 37 Port Authority police officers who have been lost from the worst attack on America soil - "Rest in Peace". And may the Good Lord give the families and friends the strength to bear their losses. 

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« Reply #163 on: January 22, 2019, 06:45:20 PM »

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« Reply #164 on: January 22, 2019, 07:44:15 PM »
https://www.3lstories.com/fake-veteran

 This site member "Johnd248" has a son on the job in the Fairfield, Ct.

 Both "johnd248" and myself were once both Volunteer Firefighters in Fairfield, Ct and I still keep in contact with a few guys there. "No such character that I know of". I'm sure nobody that "johnd248" knows of either.

 My brother, a retired Bridgeport B/C, was also a volunteer firefighter with us too. He doesn't know of the guy either.
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