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Re: WTC 9-11 RELATED INFO.
« Reply #60 on: May 10, 2014, 04:25:44 PM »


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Re: WTC 9-11 RELATED INFO.
« Reply #62 on: May 10, 2014, 10:06:45 PM »
I can see both sides of this and after getting over my knee jerk reaction this may be the lesser of all evils.  At least where they are being held is less apt to be vandalized by some of the sick folks out there.
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Re: WTC 9-11 RELATED INFO.
« Reply #63 on: May 10, 2014, 10:22:58 PM »
I can see both sides of this and after getting over my knee jerk reaction this may be the lesser of all evils.  At least where they are being held is less apt to be vandalized by some of the sick folks out there.


Im with you svd385. I remember when i visited there last year and did the tour with an Ex Port Authority member and someone in my group asked

why has it taken so long to rebuild here and get the memorial open etc? 

He answered - Im sure we all have families of 4 or 5 and larger extended families. Think of when an important family decision has to be made 9 out of 10 times there always someone in that family who'll disagree or want something else. You can be left with a really hard choice.

Now think of the amount of people we lost here over 2,000. Thats over 2,000 families that you have to get to try agree with each other. Its impossible. Every family has there own way they want to remember their lost loved one and they are entitled to that way
 
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Re: WTC 9-11 RELATED INFO.
« Reply #64 on: May 19, 2014, 01:32:59 AM »
THIS IS AN AWESOME & HEARTFELT REVIEW & REFLECTION OF THE MUSEUM FROM AN NYPD BROTHER (He also has an excellent suggestion that all future NYPD & FDNY recruit classes be taken through the Museum)...... QUOTE..
9-11 MUSEUM Review & Reflections

So there is now a museum dedicated to a horror I witnessed , An event I directly participated in . These were my thoughts as I made my way downtown .

In a small way I can understand now how a veteran feels as he makes a pilgrimage to Pearl Harbor or the beaches of Normandy .

As I exit my vehicle and start the trek towards the site it occurs to be I have chosen the same path I took that morning as the Towers were burning . I think about stopping at the spot I was when the 1st Tower fell , Perhaps sharing this with My guest . But I donít I keep these thoughts to myself
 
The museum is located below ground , buried beneath the street above . As I start to make the decent . I feel this is a very appropriate setting , for some many perhaps perished this way .

There is display on the wall marking the flight paths of the planes . It appears as if one of the Jets flew in the sky within view of my home . I wonder now when I left that morning perhaps I saw it , but dismissed the sight as I made my way to work .
 
There is a silence to this place , as if youíve entered a great cathedral . Those in attendance are whispering to each other , Some have chosen to dress formally suit and tie . Some firemen are wearing there dress jackets over there street clothes .

There appears to be members of a motorcycle club in attendance appearing in there best leathers .

Everyone is dressed appropriately . It reflects all the souls lost that day .

I overhear a museum employee whispering into his radio that a family member has asked to visit the OCME area . I understand what that means , and it does effect my mood .

I respect some family members have objected to the remains being placed here .

I personally after viewing the museum can think of no better
 resting place until
They can be properly identified .

There are pictures of all the fallen , I look and find the photo of Walwyn Wellington Stuart JR . A former undercover in Manhattan North who left to join the Port Authority Police . I recall the conversation years ago with him when he spoke of leaving the NYPD for greener pastures and ironically a safer working environment .

It will take us 2 and half hours to view the displays . There is so much to comment on . The shield of PAPD Capt Kathy Mazza is on display . Much of the blue lettering is gone , Its shape is twisted . A civilian would have to read the text next to it to understand this was once a Police Shield .

I look at it and understand I FEEL how violently she perished .

You think perhaps youíve seen every photo of that day . There are horrific images

Multiple souls leaping from the towers . Photos Iíve never seen before and I wish now . I hadnít .

I wish there was more dedicated to the NYPD on display , But Iím sure the folks at the FDNY , PAPD and Cantor Fitzgerald would think the same concerning there organizations
 
There is no major display dedicated to Americas Mayor nor should there be .

I walked away feeling those who created this memorial did there very best .

A job well done .



Yes there is a Gift Shop as the New York Post reported this morning . They called it a Little Shop Of Horrors . However itís the same gift shop items that have been on sale for years at the 9-11 Store near liberty street .
In a perfect world there would be no gift shop , in that same perfect world the Towers would still be standing .

There is no right or wrong answer to this , I would prefer to see a young person skateboarding by me wearing a 9-11 Shirt rather then one that puts money in the pockets of his favorite rapper or sports star.

If a young man visits this museum and his parent buys him a PD or FD item as a memento, that perhaps inspires him to enter the public service someday .

Then so be it .

The important thing is to monitor where the funds go and to insure they are used ONLY to maintain this place of honor .and insure no one forgets what happen on that day .

I was like most of us , Just went to work that day ran toward trouble .And returned each tour for months . What I touched what I inhaled time will tell what effect it will have on all of us .

I never was flown to flip a coin at a football game or got a free trip to Disney .

And you know what Iím proud that I didnít .

You wont find a picture of me inside this memorial , my name is not etched anywhere . Nor should it be .

But you'll feel as if your part of every display

It is a tribute to all that WE did , Itís a part of each and everyone of us that served .

Once again A JOB WELL DONE past & present. ............UNQUOTE....WELL SAID BROTHER...NEVER FORGET! ..NEVER FORGIVE!


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Re: WTC 9-11 RELATED INFO.
« Reply #65 on: May 19, 2014, 10:23:13 PM »
Thanks Chief!

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Re: WTC 9-11 RELATED INFO.
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Re: WTC 9-11 RELATED INFO.
« Reply #67 on: May 27, 2014, 07:47:21 PM »
thanks jack for your post of david hanschuh daily news photographer and Engine co. 217

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Re: WTC 9-11 RELATED INFO.
« Reply #68 on: May 28, 2014, 08:50:32 PM »
As Jim Riches points out this is a glaring lack of security at the site...anyone who treats it inapropriatly should be removed..... www.nytimes.com/2014/05/28/nyregion/etchings-at-9-11-memorial-are-called-both-anguished-tributes-and-vandalism.html?ref=nyregion&_r=1


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Re: WTC 9-11 RELATED INFO.
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Re: WTC 9-11 RELATED INFO.
« Reply #72 on: July 04, 2014, 10:39:33 AM »
Site's admin policy prohibits me from expressing my true feelings on the individual who did this >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( :( :( :( :( :( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :o :o :o :o :o :o :o >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Re: WTC 9-11 RELATED INFO.
« Reply #74 on: July 15, 2014, 04:40:37 PM »
RIP TO A 9-11 MOM & CONTINUED RIP TO HER SON BRIAN.

It is with regret that we inform you of the passing of Carol Cannizzaro. Mrs.Cannizzaro was the mother of Brian (L-101), who was lost on 9/11. For those that would like to show your respects to the family, the wake will be held on Monday 7/14 from 7-9pm, and Tuesday from 2-4, and 7-9pm. It is at the Rice Funeral Home, 30 Nelson Avenue, SINY 10308. The funeral mass is Wednesday 7/16 at St. Sylvester's, 845 Targee Street - time TBA. In addition to Brian, her husband Sam is retired from the FDNY.  Active members please wear Class A's when attending.
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