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Re: FDNY Divison Chiefs
« Reply #15 on: August 26, 2008, 05:23:54 PM »
Rescue Aide gets the money, Hazmat does not. 
Somehow in the contract they left the Hazmat Battalion out, not sure if it was fixed yet.

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Re: FDNY Divison Chiefs
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Re: FDNY Divison Chiefs
« Reply #16 on: August 27, 2008, 10:01:58 PM »
My father is a Divison Aide and is a full time firefighter not on light duty, just finishing his 30 years of service.

  A Division cam have either a full duty FF and a Battalion is a full duty slot only.

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Re: FDNY Divison Chiefs ( question about aides )
« Reply #17 on: November 17, 2008, 07:46:28 AM »
OK to clear up some confusion from earlier posts:

Battalion Aide is now Battalion Firefighter and a full duty position. They can enter fire building and carry full gear.

Division Aides are light duty firefighters, handle radio communication to dispatchers, assist with command board but do not enter fire building.


I can understand the part of DIV-aide. He's seems to be there to assist the chief. But I do not understand the BAT-aide explanaition.
What has the BAT-aide to do ín a fire building while his chief's busy commanding the units. Shouldn't he be with his chief to keep his hands free for commanding as much as possible ?
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Re: FDNY Divison Chiefs
« Reply #18 on: November 17, 2008, 03:09:17 PM »
Earlier practice provided for the battalion chief/incident commander to manage operations inside some types of buildings.   Current FDNY doctrine calls for the initial battalion chief/incident commander at private dwellings, brownstone buildings, row frame buildings, and taxpayers (mall-type stores) to operate in front of the building.  The battalion firefighter stays with the chief, and will monitor the second radio channel if a command channel is activated.    A second battalion chief (and battalion firefighter) is assigned on the first level of escalation of firefighting resources.  That chief and battalion firefighter may be assigned to operate in the building.  Current practice requires all chiefs and their aides/battalion firefighters to stay together.

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Re: FDNY Divison Chiefs
« Reply #19 on: November 17, 2008, 05:39:52 PM »
A second battalion chief (and battalion firefighter) is assigned on the first level of escalation of firefighting resources. 
That chief and battalion firefighter may be assigned to operate in the building. 

Does this mean that the second chief takes over the direct lead of fighting the fire inside so the first can keep an overview? ( don't know if overview is the right word for knowing what's happening anywhere concerning the incident )
Or is the chief inside for special tasks?
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Re: FDNY Divison Chiefs
« Reply #20 on: November 17, 2008, 07:56:25 PM »
The initial battalion chief remains the incident commander (unless he/she is an acting battalion chief) until the division chief arrives when the original response is augmented.  The division chief becomes the IC.  The first battalion chief may continue to work with the division chief or be given another assignment per incident management system protocols.

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Re: FDNY Divison Chiefs
« Reply #21 on: November 17, 2008, 10:19:01 PM »
How does one become a battalion aide?

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Re: FDNY Divison Chiefs
« Reply #22 on: November 18, 2008, 10:10:46 AM »
It is easier to become a Batt. aide if you are assigned to a house that has a chief. You might fill in when the regular aide is on vacation, etc.  Very often, when a captain is promoted to BC, he will pick his aide from his company (where he was captain).  This may take a while because he/she has to wait until they have a permanent spot.