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Online tperez102

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FDNY SIGNAL 10-30
« on: September 25, 2019, 04:57:41 PM »
I recall back in the late 70's early 80's I guess a signal 10-30 . We had plenty of those in my old neighborhood of East Harlem 53/43 and from what I remember 2 & 2 would be assigned for what felt like an extended operation. Clutter , abandoned buildings too unstable to enter. Can anyone fill me in this response?  Thanks 

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FDNY SIGNAL 10-30
« on: September 25, 2019, 04:57:41 PM »

Offline In2theJob

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Re: FDNY SIGNAL 10-30
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2019, 10:50:14 AM »
A 10-30 code now is only used internally for Dispatchers now.  The field units do not use it.
I believe now it is just used to fill out the box with a 4th engine and Squad and Rescue if the quantity and quality of calls suggest it will be a 10-75

Any dispatchers  please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Re: FDNY SIGNAL 10-30
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2019, 12:30:05 PM »
 As I look back into My Younger Buffing Days, the signal 10-30 was used over the boro radio by arriving units of a working fire giving a two and two response.

 Later came the signal 10-75 requesting the third due engine.

 As I remember, during the very busy FDNY WAR YEARS, every company was needed to try and stay in service if at all possible. Many times the signal 10-30 was used INSTEAD of a 10-75, keeping the THIRD Due Engine available.

 It was not uncommon to see a large vacant building fully involved, only getting 2 Engines and 2 Trucks and holding it with that.

 Photo below from www.fdnysbravest.com web site (mikeindabronx). This might be the kind of thing where a Signal 10-30 would have been used rather than the 10-75 requesting the third due engine. (Thanks Mike)

 Appears to be a vacant building surrounded by other vacant buildings that would get a 2 and 2 response.

 http://www.fdnysbravest.com/fp267.htm
« Last Edit: September 26, 2019, 12:46:25 PM by nfd2004 »

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Re: FDNY SIGNAL 10-30
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2019, 03:17:09 PM »
Thank You NFD that's how I remember it. We had tenements in our area that were just shells. One building an Old School still there east 105th st Box 1302 , was constantly burning. I still remember the War years looking out my windows on the 12th floor and seeing smoke column's daily.

Thanks To you all for the reply and info.   

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Re: FDNY SIGNAL 10-30
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2019, 04:42:43 PM »
My recollection is a 3 & 2 + Bn response on pull boxes. The Bn would, depending on his size-up, would not use the 3rd engine, thereby not transmitting the 10-75 & not having the Deputy & Rescue & Squad respond. Especially when things were popping. ERS changed things.
  Obviously, the dispatcher could redirect or assign extra units based on their info.

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Re: FDNY SIGNAL 10-30
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2019, 06:06:22 AM »
10 codes were established in 1969. 10-30 was "Working Fire" order for a Full First Alarm Assignment which was 3+2+BC, there was no 10-75.

Some years later 10-75 was established calling for the 3+2+BC response. At that time response to the 10-30 was reduced to 2+2+BC.