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In an effort to cut costs, the London Fire Brigade recently permanently closed 10 Fire Stations, including several of the Brigade's busiest in the heart of London, and laid off over 550 firefighters. As a result, 14 companies, or units, have been disbanded. The Brigade's total station number has dropped from 112 to 102.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/09/fire-stations-close_n_4567663.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25640673

http://www.itv.com/news/london/topic/london-fire-brigade/

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Re: London Fire Brigade Permanently Closes 10 Fire Stations and Lays Off 552
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2014, 07:24:31 PM »
In an effort to cut costs, the London Fire Brigade recently permanently closed 10 Fire Stations, including several of the Brigade's busiest in the heart of London, and laid off over 550 firefighters. As a result, 14 companies, or units, have been disbanded. The Brigade's total station number has dropped from 112 to 102.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/01/09/fire-stations-close_n_4567663.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-25640673

http://www.itv.com/news/london/topic/london-fire-brigade/

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Re: London Fire Brigade Permanently Closes 10 Fire Stations and Lays Off 552
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2014, 12:07:59 AM »
The Clerkenwell Fire Station, one of the 10 that have been closed was built in 1872 and is the oldest operating fire station in England. The scary part of it is that several of the Fire Stations closing, namely Knightsbridge, Westminster(first due to Buckingham Palace and Big Ben), and Southwark are some of the Brigades busiest stations, and serve the most densely populated areas of central or "downtown" London.

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Re: London Fire Brigade Permanently Closes 10 Fire Stations and Lays Off 552
« Reply #3 on: January 11, 2014, 08:53:36 AM »
I was able to attend a fire at the Hard Rock Cafe in July 2005 a day after the bombings. Knightsbridge and Westminster would have been two of the stations to respond. As I stood there talking with the members of the LFB and watching this progress to what I would have called a third alarm, I wondered how they got anywhere with the traffic congestion and street system. I have seen station closings that honestly had minimal impact. I do not see this being the case. A large fire load, life safety and response issues to overcome.

Maybe JT can elaborate?

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Re: London Fire Brigade Permanently Closes 10 Fire Stations and Lays Off 552
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2014, 09:21:18 AM »
London Fire Brigade closed station -

Firefighters from the Clerkenwell Fire Stationís Green Watch observe a moment of silence for their fellow firefighters who lost their lives in the 9/11 terrorist attacks in New York in London, England:


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Re: London Fire Brigade Permanently Closes 10 Fire Stations and Lays Off 552
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2014, 09:43:00 AM »
The irony of the closings. Less than 3 hours before the doors were closed for the final time, 2 of the stations were utilised at a 4 pump fire (equilavent to 10-75).

Back in the 70's, London used to have 2 pumps in attendance within 5 minutes the vast majority of the time. With these closures, they now aim to have the first in attendance in 6 minutes and the second in 8 minutes. Nothing like progress.

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Re: London Fire Brigade Permanently Closes 10 Fire Stations and Lays Off 552
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2014, 03:22:58 PM »
Traffic in London is incredibly congested. Basically the entire city is tight, narrow streets. There really is no grid system. After the last great fire, the city planners wanted to redesign the street system in central London to be more like that of Paris (or Washington, D.C. by comparison), with long, straight boulevards and a more grid-like system. The plan was rejected.

Here's a ride-along video from the '90's of the SoHo Fire Station responding to an alarm in heavy traffic. Traffic is even worse today. It took them over five minutes to go nearly a mile. Incidentally, the SoHo Fire Station is gonna have a lot more ground to cover, as it's one of the fire stations taking over the territories of the Westminster and Knightsbridge Fire Stations, 2 of the 10 that have closed. The SoHo Fire Station is also one of the busiest in London, responding to 4,000 runs or "shouts" as they are called there, annually. It is also one of 11 Fire Stations in the entire London Fire Brigade with an Aerial Ladder or a Platform. In other words, there are only 11 "Truck Companies" in all of London.



As for response times, the average response time for the first unit o/s is around 5 minutes, with the second unit arriving in 6 minutes. The London Fire Brigade currently uses an alphabetical system to determine the risk factor of a specific area or neighborhood. These risk factor levels are similar to response protocols or box cards in the U.S.

A Category "A" Risk Area covers high-density areas(inner city heavy commercial, industrial, residential). 3 Engines are on the assignment and must all arrive in 8 minutes or less. The first 2 Engines are to arrive within 2-5 minutes.

A Category "B" Risk Area covers medium-density areas(urban light commercial, residential). 2 Engines are on the assignment. The first Engine is to arrive within 5 minutes and the second Engine is to arrive within 8 minutes.

A Category "C" Risk Area covers low-density, suburban areas(suburban light commercial, private homes). 1 Engine is on the assignment and is to arrive within 10 minutes.

A Category "D" Risk Area covers very low-density, suburban areas(countryside, few commercial, private homes, farms). 1 Engine is on the assignment and is to arrive within 20 minutes.