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Re: Dispatchers Question --- relocations
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2014, 03:07:23 PM »
Interesting how the entire 4th alarm engine responses are all Manhattan units and it goes back to S.I. units on the 5th.

On the 5th alarm, E155 was on the 1st alarm, E153 was on the 2nd alarm, and E161 and E156 were on the 3rd alarm.

The 5th alarm is made up of re locators.
E6/155
E10/153
E4/160  (E160 moved to 154 on the 2nd)
E31/159  (E159 moved to 156 on the 2nd)
E30/161
E32/158

Here is the difficult question.  If the 5th alarm is all relocators, what about E160?  Is it E160/154 or is it E4/160? 

IMHO it would be E4/160 because the relocator assumes the identity of the company that they moved into, even if the original is available but moved elsewhere (where they are also in an assumed identity.)

How about E159?  On the 5th alarm E159 is assigned.  Is it E159/156 or is it E31/159?
Again, I would guess that it would be E31/159. 

FDNY is unique among departments because they alone did not adopt a "move up then respond" policy.  It was only possible because of the large number of companies available that a company could move up but not respond.  It is also the result of the inability to communicate with companies while they were in transit between fire houses.  If they were sent somewhere by telegraph, they were out of contact until they arrived at their assignment, so they could not be easily redirected enroute.  That method of relocating continued long after radios were installed.
  Many of the relocators from Manhattan were double companies (E5, 7, 13, 16, 18, 26, 30, 31, 33, 76 & 91) so they would not require coverage.

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Re: Dispatchers Question --- relocations
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2014, 03:07:23 PM »

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Re: Dispatchers Question --- relocations
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2014, 03:10:27 PM »
How correct you are G-man regarding the double companies. I completely forgot about those days. Thanks.

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Re: Dispatchers Question --- relocations
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2014, 03:17:38 PM »
How correct you are G-man regarding the double companies. I completely forgot about those days. Thanks.
Yes, I believe most of those double companies were disbanded in 1939 with a few remaining until 1947, leaving E76 & L22 until 1957 when E41 &  E91 were made double co's. and L22(2) became L26(2).