Author Topic: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.  (Read 15150 times)

Offline Buff9663

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Re: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2016, 02:36:44 PM »
This was a SQ41 box not a SQ18?  Also what was the address?

Sq18 had a 1st due 3rd Alarm in the West Village

324 East 93 St between 1&2 Ave
This box is still a normally assigned squad box for 41.

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Re: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2016, 02:36:44 PM »

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« Reply #16 on: October 27, 2016, 03:21:07 PM »
Thank you. I forgot SQ41 goes down into Manhattan that far.

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« Reply #17 on: October 27, 2016, 03:28:03 PM »
Companies for relief @15:00
E-34,75
L-164
B-1,46
Remember to take it coming in

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Re: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.
« Reply #18 on: October 27, 2016, 03:38:00 PM »
Rescue 1 FF who made rope rescue talks about it on Facebook Post ......   https://www.facebook.com/FDNY/photos/a.316291185728.191758.304603755728/10154543926420729/?type=3&theater

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Re: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2016, 04:13:35 PM »
L. 13 is listed twice on the rundown: last due on the 1st. and as the Second Alarm truck.

This was a first due box for L-13 and Engine 22, however both were on another assignment.
After both cleared their earlier call, they responded directly to this box even though the 10-75 Units and an additional Engine and Ladder had already been assigned.
They arrived just prior to the 2nd Alarm being struck and thus put 6 Engines and 5 ladders total on the box.
Manhattan Dispatch then listed L-13 on their rundown of 2nd Alarm Units.
Hope this explains the slight confusion on why L-13 was mistakenly listed twice on Firephish's list. 

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Re: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.
« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2016, 04:48:58 PM »
I believe that normally if available in qtrs 1219 would be...43..13..26 FAST....53..22..44..91..BN*10..BN*11..DV*3..SQ*41.. R*1.

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Re: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.
« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2016, 05:34:55 PM »
L. 13 is listed twice on the rundown: last due on the 1st. and as the Second Alarm truck.

This was a first due box for L-13 and Engine 22, however both were on another assignment.
After both cleared their earlier call, they responded directly to this box even though the 10-75 Units and an additional Engine and Ladder had already been assigned.
They arrived just prior to the 2nd Alarm being struck and thus put 6 Engines and 5 ladders total on the box.
Manhattan Dispatch then listed L-13 on their rundown of 2nd Alarm Units.
Hope this explains the slight confusion on why L-13 was mistakenly listed twice on Firephish's list.

Sorry for the confusion.

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Re: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.
« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2016, 05:52:02 PM »

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Re: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.
« Reply #23 on: October 27, 2016, 08:45:16 PM »
Some video of the rope rescue on the FDNY Twitter: https://twitter.com/FDNY/status/791750369378439168

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Re: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.
« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2016, 01:06:07 PM »

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Re: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.
« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2016, 06:33:13 PM »
Rope used in the rescue


What kind of rope is it?  Kernmantle or one of the newer heat-resistant Kevlar AP rescue ropes? Looks like manila from the picture.

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Re: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.
« Reply #26 on: October 28, 2016, 09:27:46 PM »
nylon


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Re: 10-27-16...MANH SIXTH ALARM BOX 1219.
« Reply #28 on: October 29, 2016, 08:09:10 PM »
nylon
?  That sounds like a very poor choice for a rope used by the fire service especially in situations like this.  Nylon melts and loses strength very rapidly when exposed to heat.  Even plain sisal rope is better when exposed to heat.

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« Reply #29 on: October 29, 2016, 09:39:46 PM »
nylon
?  That sounds like a very poor choice for a rope used by the fire service especially in situations like this.  Nylon melts and loses strength very rapidly when exposed to heat.  Even plain sisal rope is better when exposed to heat.

Yes, I was surprised to hear they used a nylon rope in a life-safety-critical application. When I had ropes and rigging at the Delaware state fire school back around the early 80's, it was a no-no. I always carried a 10-15 ft piece of nylon in my coat (along with the better part of a toolbox :-) just for tying off a ladder or hose line.

We were taught to use kernmantle rope for rappelling. I had confidence in that -- I used to rappel off the bucket of our Aerialscope with it for practice (and demos during fire prevention week).  The newer Kevlar AR has much more fire resistance than nylon, I'm pretty sure.

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