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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
« Reply #15 on: July 07, 2017, 01:50:55 PM »
3 Hospitals on this list. Not good at all.

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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2017, 03:29:05 PM »
Firefighters' union has to be core participant in Grenfell inquiry, MPs told   

https://www.fbu.org.uk/news/2017/06/22/firefighters-union-has-be-core-participant-grenfell-inquiry-mps-told


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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
« Reply #18 on: September 19, 2017, 08:47:09 PM »
http://www.nfpa.org/news-and-research/publications/nfpa-journal/2017/september-october-2017/features/nfpa-285?order_src=C247

London Calling 

Experts say the problems that led to the deadly Grenfell Tower fire in Great Britain may exist in hundreds of buildings around the world. Thatís why NFPA is developing an array of resources to address issues related to combustible exterior wall assemblies.


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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2018, 01:33:54 AM »
It's 32m max.  A lot depends on the camera angle.

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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
« Reply #22 on: January 10, 2018, 08:51:46 PM »
104.99 feet! And that is their tallest?

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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
« Reply #23 on: January 10, 2018, 09:06:16 PM »
I believe the tallest available for the fire service right now is 112 m from Bronto https://www.brontoskylift.com/en/high-rise-fire

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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
« Reply #24 on: January 10, 2018, 09:19:52 PM »
Can you imagine operating 367 feet up?

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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2018, 07:56:52 AM »
Can you imagine trying to position one of those things? 
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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2018, 10:34:11 PM »
Can you imagine trying to position one of those things?
I laughed when I read in their literature that it can be set up quickly.  I wonder what their definition of quickly is?  I'm sure the outriggers have to be huge and I'm betting it automatically levels itself since the level of the base would be very critical when you get that high up.  It's impressive though that it can flow 1000 GPM even at full elevation!  I forget exactly what the weight of the unit was but I think it some around 167,000 pounds!

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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
« Reply #27 on: January 12, 2018, 08:14:11 AM »
The Rotary Club has provided funding for the London Fire Brigade to purchase a number of 'suitable aerial appliances' following on from the Grenfell fire.
The LFB was about to order 15x 32 metre Turntable Ladders (rear mounts) from Magirus anyway, but with additional funding they have ordered an additional 5x 60 metre Turntable Ladders.

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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2018, 11:31:42 AM »
The Rotary Club has provided funding for the London Fire Brigade to purchase a number of 'suitable aerial appliances' following on from the Grenfell fire.
The LFB was about to order 15x 32 metre Turntable Ladders (rear mounts) from Magirus anyway, but with additional funding they have ordered an additional 5x 60 metre Turntable Ladders.
US fire departments went through the very high ladder and platform phase in the mid 1960's through the 1970's.
""Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it." Winston Churchill, George Santayana, et al
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Re: London, Fire Engulfs Tower Block
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2018, 02:26:38 PM »
Stevenage fire station in Hertfordshire has just taken deliver of the highest aerial tower currently in use in Europe.

Its a 150 foot tower. I was an ALP  operator in London, hey are very slow to get to work due to the size of the booms and so many safety measures and automatic cutouts!!  You cannot put the jacks (fendors out or ground them within a metre of any manhole cover or drain. The whole rig weighs in at 26 tonnes!!

Whether the newer models are any better remains to be seen.

There were many factors at Grenfel towers. Like most disasters, it was an accumilation of a number of unassociated factors, mistakes, faults, bad decisions, oversights etc etc that very sadly  led to a tragic fire.

JG