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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #405 on: August 11, 2018, 03:21:02 PM »
My father was an early member of the Fire Bell Club.  I joined in 1971 and have two brothers who are also members.

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #405 on: August 11, 2018, 03:21:02 PM »

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #406 on: August 11, 2018, 04:34:10 PM »
My father was an early member of the Fire Bell Club.  I joined in 1971 and have two brothers who are also members.
John as a BKLYN guy do you remember the "77 Club" ? .... I was not a Member but had been invited there a few times by some BKLYN Dispatchers that were Members....I seem to remember the Clubs Quarters being on a floor in a Loft type bldg on Bridge St in BKLYN near where United Insignia had been (before they moved to QNS).

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #407 on: August 11, 2018, 04:52:28 PM »
Chief,
Didn't they respond to multiples with a canteen-like truck and give out drinks?

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #408 on: August 11, 2018, 05:14:04 PM »
Chief, I have heard of the 77 club but never knew any members or where they were.  I believe there was also a 255 club in the old days.

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #409 on: August 11, 2018, 06:49:30 PM »
Salvage Units 

-   Five units (six planned)
-   Federal funding (Model Cities Program)
-   Operated 1972-1991
-   Purpose:  limit water damage; seal buildings
-   Initially operated in designated sections  - later expanded citywide
-   Staffing:  FDNY officer and driver/civilian Salvagemen
-   Equipment:  covers; pumps; generators; lights; water vacuums; smoke ejectors; tools

Salvage 1 Brooklyn

     Salvage 1 organized 2581 Atlantic Avenue (old Post Office)                      1972
     Salvage 1 moved 551 Waverly Avenue (former factory)                           1977
     Salvage 1 moved 1472 Bergen Street (former Engine 234)                       1979
     Salvage 1 moved 657 Liberty Avenue (former Engine 332                        1985
     Salvage 1 disbanded                                                                             1986
 
          551 Waverly Avenue:

               

          1472 Bergen Street (former Engine 234):

               

               

          Salvage 1 apparatus:
         
               

               

Salvage 2 Manhattan

     Salvage 2 organized 242 East 111th Street at Engine 91                           1979
     Salvage 2 disbanded                                                                              1991
     Salvage 2 reorganized 242 East 111th Street at Engine 91                        1991
     Salvage 2 disbanded                                                                              1991

         242 East 111th Street at Engine 91:
 
               
         
          Salvage 2 apparatus:

               

     Salvage 3 Bronx

     Salvage 3 organized 2504 Webster Avenue (former Engine 48)                 1979
     Salvage 3 disbanded                                                                             1991
 
          2504 Webster Avenue (former Engine 48): 

               

     Salvage 4 Brooklyn

          Salvage 4 organized 648 Pacific Street (former Ladder 105)                      1979
          Salvage 4 disbanded                                                                              1991

               648 Pacific Street (former Ladder 105):

                   

               Salvage 4 apparatus:

                   

     Salvage 5 Bronx

          Salvage 5 organized 1080 Ogden Avenue (former Engine 68)                    1979
          Salvage 5 disbanded                                                                              1991

               1080 Ogden Avenue (former Engine 68):
 
                   

     Salvage 6 Manhattan

          Salvage 6 planned West 77th Street  1991                              Never organized

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #410 on: August 11, 2018, 07:01:33 PM »
I never understood the operational differences between the Salvage companies and the Fire Patrol.  Can anyone explain?

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #411 on: August 11, 2018, 08:06:05 PM »
Simply, commercial occupancies were handled by the Fire Patrol through insurance companies where the Salvage units were part of the Model Cities program and would respond as requested by Chiefs to non commercial occupancies. I'm pretty sure that was the story :-\

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« Reply #412 on: August 11, 2018, 08:10:20 PM »
Chief, I have heard of the 77 club but never knew any members or where they were.  I believe there was also a 255 club in the old days.

I seem to remember a 77 club and thought that it was on Union St on the same block with E269 back in the day (early 50's.

The 255 club was adjacent to The qtrs. of E255 & L157, on the Foster Ave, side set back about 50 or so ft, from the sidewalk.The
 building was a transformed large garage and the 255 club upstairs
I'm not sure what year it closed down,I'll ask ret Disp 120 we were just there in June.

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #413 on: August 11, 2018, 08:45:18 PM »
Simply, commercial occupancies were handled by the Fire Patrol through insurance companies where the Salvage units were part of the Model Cities program and would respond as requested by Chiefs to non commercial occupancies. I'm pretty sure that was the story :-\

Thank you.

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #414 on: August 12, 2018, 12:07:53 AM »
77 Club was always a social buff organization, never operated a Canteen, but did maintain a respectable Fire Museum at their quarters. They may have originated near Engine 269, but were then on Bridge Street Brooklyn, and finally 326 Livingston Street until they were dissolved c 1980.  WNYF 1st/1949 has an extensive article on the Club with photos.

255 Club did operate the Red Cross Canteen for multiple alarms, and also a Red Cross affiliated victim relocation service. In final years (c1980s) they were quartered at Red Cross HQ near High Street, Brooklyn. One of the artifacts maintained at their quarters was the locomotive bell and Maltese Plate from Doc Archer's  1949 Flxible Ambulance 1.

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« Reply #415 on: August 12, 2018, 08:37:25 AM »
I believe there was also a very active
fire buff club on Staten Island.

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #416 on: August 12, 2018, 09:31:02 AM »
 Regarding reply # 409, after Salvage 3 on Webster Ave (former E48 Qtrs) was closed down in 1991, there were TWO (?) Second Alarms in that vacant building. The first one I was buffing the area. It was sad as FDNYs history was going up in smoke.

 Also as I understand it, The Fire Bell Club publishes a monthly report on the multiple alarm fires each month, similar to what "signal 73" does for us on this site in the "City Wide section". Although there may be variations in the numbers depending on what is posted here.

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« Reply #417 on: August 12, 2018, 09:50:25 AM »
Mack, Staten Island's 88 Club also ran the canteen service and also published a pretty thorough newsletter (as did the TAA - Third Alarm Assn of Manhattan).  In later years 88 members preserved some older apparatus.

A lot of information on Buff Clubs and Organizations can be found in Badges of the Bravest by Gary Urbanowicz (2002) and They Also Served by John A. Calderone (2007)

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #418 on: August 12, 2018, 10:49:11 AM »
A picture of 255 Club members providing support to members at a fire:

     

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Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses and Fire Companies - 2nd Section
« Reply #419 on: August 12, 2018, 03:23:08 PM »
77 Club was always a social buff organization, never operated a Canteen, but did maintain a respectable Fire Museum at their quarters. They may have originated near Engine 269, but were then on Bridge Street Brooklyn, and finally 326 Livingston Street until they were dissolved c 1980.  WNYF 1st/1949 has an extensive article on the Club with photos.

255 Club did operate the Red Cross Canteen for multiple alarms, and also a Red Cross affiliated victim relocation service. In final years (c1980s) they were quartered at Red Cross HQ near High Street, Brooklyn. One of the artifacts maintained at their quarters was the locomotive bell and Maltese Plate from Doc Archer's  1949 Flxible Ambulance 1.

Thanks 811.

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