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Offline memory master

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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2018, 12:57:12 PM »
memory master - any idea when and why that change was made?

Thank you.
I am guessing now that it was the very late 1940's or early 50's. I believe the UFA was instrumental in implementing that change. I cannot recall my dad doing anything but the two day tours with a 48 hour swing and two night tours with a 72 hour swing. He was on the job from '37 to '58 and I do remember him speaking about the three platoon chart but I'm only guessing on the circa dates. Hope that helps.

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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2018, 12:57:12 PM »

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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2018, 02:15:00 PM »
Many thanks to you and Bill.

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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2018, 03:11:09 PM »
FDNY three platoon system began on 3/1/37. It was department-wide on 12/31/39. The three tour day was trialed in the late 1940's, I believe in the 5th Division. Yes, there was a roll call at midnight. It was ditched in less than a New York minute.

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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2018, 04:39:18 PM »
 Regarding the hours worked by firefighters, I remember as a kid in the 1950s, my father, a Bridgeport, Ct firefighter working 7 day shifts, followed by 2 days off. Then 7 night shifts followed by 2 days off.

 Then came the 56 hour work week of 3 day shifts, followed by 3 night shifts, followed by 3 days off. I seem to remember that Bridgeport was one of the first cities in Connecticut to get that.

 Also at the time all Bridgeport Firefighters were required to live within the city limits. When my grandparents (my fathers parents) moved to Milford, Ct (two towns away), my father was required to call into the firehouse where the on duty officer would write down a phone number to call in case he was called in for a major fire.

 There were maybe 4-5 times a year when he would be ordered to go back to the firehouse, none of which he was paid for. It was considered your job in an emergency and there was no pay for that.

 When I wasn't doing good in school and my parents had to bring me in for a little talk with the teacher, that teacher asked me; "William when you grow up what do you want to be" ? Of course, "what else - A FIREMAN". My father and teacher both shook their head like - "the kid is a lost cause". Of course with the low pay, long hours, the type of work, you can understand why they felt like that.

 Sorry guys for getting so far off track, but I had to tell my story.

 

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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2018, 05:35:32 PM »
I remember my father telling me that the two shift system did not return at one time and that certain battalions and divisions worked the two shift system while neighboring ones continued working three shifts.

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« Reply #20 on: December 18, 2018, 07:28:06 PM »
I remember my father telling me that the two shift system did not return at one time and that certain battalions and divisions worked the two shift system while neighboring ones continued working three shifts.
Yes the old 12th BN continued to work the 3 eight hour chart well after the rest of the Job switched....the theory back then was that the had the busiest Units in the City at the time & it would be too taxing to work longer than eight hours straight...little did anybody know what was in store in years to come.

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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #21 on: December 18, 2018, 08:37:31 PM »
engine 12 closed in 1959
engine 19 in 1947

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« Reply #22 on: December 18, 2018, 09:11:03 PM »
So will it be Engine 12 or Engine 19 that comes back to life?Or will it be none at all? Or will they close one to re-allocate resources? Will they add a Truck Company? what number will that be? So many questions for our wandering minds!

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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #23 on: December 18, 2018, 09:32:43 PM »
engine 12 closed in 1959
engine 19 in 1947
Typo - my fault - fixed.
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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #24 on: December 18, 2018, 11:00:18 PM »
Ladder 8 is vulnerable....they could close or relocate to Hudson Yards as an engine or as ladder 8 and the ladder 8 station/house occupied by engine 7...

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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2018, 09:26:52 AM »
Why is Ladder 8 so vulnerable, they just spent thousands to rehab there house.

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« Reply #26 on: December 20, 2018, 01:43:24 AM »
They spent millions on the Bronx and Queens CO's and look where they are now.
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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #27 on: December 20, 2018, 08:53:09 AM »
How true 347, how true!

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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #28 on: December 20, 2018, 03:22:35 PM »
https://www.amny.com/news/lic-firehouse-amazon-1.24752842

Amazon HQ2 plans spark renewed push to reopen LIC firehouse

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Re: BRING BACK ENGINE 261
« Reply #29 on: December 20, 2018, 08:19:48 PM »
Turnout at the Reopen 261 Rally yesterday was OK for a last minute announcement ....the word from those in the know seemed to be very positive..... www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Engine-261-Ladder-116/362513681781?hash=item54677fcd75:g:tZAAAOSwz05cGv0C



 

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