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EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« on: February 11, 2019, 05:09:42 PM »
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EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« on: February 11, 2019, 05:09:42 PM »

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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2019, 07:04:23 PM »
The rig's body was built by "the shops" I think, or, mmm was that Rescue 5's rig that they built?

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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2019, 07:20:25 PM »
The rig's body was built by "the shops" I think, or, mmm was that Rescue 5's rig that they built?
R*5's original was handbuilt.

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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2019, 12:54:02 PM »
The "moving van" as it was known.

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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2019, 06:08:25 PM »
   This 1939 Ward LaFrance was was in an MVA in 1946 and was out of service for a while. It was returned to service minus its rear wheel skirts and was operating as Rescue 4 when it was wrecked in a fatal collision on July 31, 1954 with L136 near Junction Blvd. & Roosevelt Ave. FF-Dugan of L136 and FF-Schiller of E324 who was detailed to L136 were killed and 8 eight others were injured while returning from signal 7-9357-136. A man was arrested and convicted for turning in a false alarm that caused the deaths of two firefighters.  :'(

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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2019, 06:29:28 PM »
The rig's body was built by "the shops" I think, or, mmm was that Rescue 5's rig that they built?
R*5's original was handbuilt.






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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2019, 06:31:54 PM »
   This 1939 Ward LaFrance was was in an MVA in 1946 and was out of service for a while. It was returned to service minus its rear wheel skirts and was operating as Rescue 4 when it was wrecked in a fatal collision on July 31, 1954 with L136 near Junction Blvd. & Roosevelt Ave. FF-Dugan of L136 and FF-Schiller of E324 who was detailed to L136 were killed and 8 eight others were injured while returning from signal 7-9357-136. A man was arrested and convicted for turning in a false alarm that caused the deaths of two firefighters.  :'(



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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2019, 08:21:30 PM »
   This 1939 Ward LaFrance was was in an MVA in 1946 and was out of service for a while. It was returned to service minus its rear wheel skirts and was operating as Rescue 4 when it was wrecked in a fatal collision on July 31, 1954 with L136 near Junction Blvd. & Roosevelt Ave. FF-Dugan of L136 and FF-Schiller of E324 who was detailed to L136 were killed and 8 eight others were injured while returning from signal 7-9357-136. A man was arrested and convicted for turning in a false alarm that caused the deaths of two firefighters.  :'(






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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2019, 01:51:21 AM »
The rig's body was built by "the shops" I think, or, mmm was that Rescue 5's rig that they built?
R*5's original was handbuilt.





  Rescue 5's first rig was a 1941 Ward LaFrance hose wagon (#290) that had been previously assigned to E251 then E203. ;)

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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #9 on: February 13, 2019, 07:29:38 AM »
Am I correct in presuming it was at 252 when they were a Brooklyn unit? I don't think 251 went to Queens until 1952 or '53.

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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #10 on: February 13, 2019, 12:10:10 PM »
Am I correct in presuming it was at 252 when they were a Brooklyn unit? I don't think 251 went to Queens until 1952 or '53.
The 1941 WLF was Brooklyn E251's wagon from 1941 until it was disbanded in 1946. The 1941 WLF hose wagon then went to E203 before it was reassigned to Rescue 5 in 1948. E251 used to be in the Brooklyn Navy Yard then moved to E211's FH on Clymer St. before going to 26 Hooper St. with E211 & L119. Queens E251's first rig was a 1951 WLF Quad that they ran with for years

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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2019, 02:53:26 PM »
The rig's body was built by "the shops" I think, or, mmm was that Rescue 5's rig that they built?
R*5's original was handbuilt.






Can anyone describe the engine to the left in the picture?   Company?  Make and year?

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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2019, 05:10:40 PM »
Wouldn't swear to it, Kevin, but it looks to me like one of the World's Fair light engines, 1939 Ahrens Fox model SC. I believe that at least one of those 3 was later assigned to Staten Island. Tom Eve can probably confirm that. If I'm right, here's a better photo . . .

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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2019, 11:33:13 PM »
  There were three 1938 Ahrens-Fox 500gpm pumpers (shop #'s 9043, 9044 & 9045).Engine 163 was 1st due to that box and they had one, #9043 as a 2nd pc. hose wagon. It was originally assigned to World's Fair Eng. 332 then went to E151 as a 2nd pc. wagon before going to E163. The other two 500gpm Ahrens-Fox were #9044 that was originally assigned to World's Fair E332, E324 and finally E52's 2nd pc. wagon. #9045 was originally at World's Fair E333, then World's Fair E331-2 then was assigned as the Airport Crash Unit, then as E316's 2nd pc. wagon, then finally went to Staten Island to serve as E156's 2nd pc. wagon.

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Re: EARLY R*1 WLF LETTERED "RESCUE SQUAD 1"
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2019, 12:10:09 AM »
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