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Offline skylerfire

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Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« on: March 17, 2019, 04:47:26 AM »
What I have noticed these Ferrara straight job Ladder Trucks have terrible turning radius. Not gonna mention any Ladders in particular but alot of them cant even respond out of quarters without going on the sidewalk. 3 points before responding... Has FDNY tried to put this in the specs to rule Ferrara out for bids? Or do they like Ferrara that much? Just wondering...

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Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
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Re: Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2019, 09:09:20 AM »
Over the course of time the rigs have gotten considerably larger. The width of the roads were designed when  there were still horse drawn rigs.    Now with this mayor and the previous Mayor.  They decided that they want to put in bike lanes and pedestrian walkways thus making the street more narrow   You also have to put into account is there are any illegally parked cars blocking them from making a tighter turn.  But itís pretty easy to judge a chauffeurs ability when you arenít behind the wheel and just standing there behind a camera   Guess itís the same thing.  The manufacturer basically just puts their name plate on the rig.  The job writes the specs down to the nut and bolt
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Re: Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2019, 10:58:33 AM »
Time to buy more tillers.

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Re: Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2019, 04:22:00 PM »
The rearmounts have had a poor turning radius for many years. The smart LCC would know to make the three point turn in advance, instead of trying to fudge a tight turn. I was fortunate, drove RM, TL and tillers. Each unique, especially positioning. As a regular LCC of a tiller, if the rig went out of service, sometimes there would be no tillers available for replacement and we would get a RM. What a sight to see the other LCC's who never drove a RM, got ugly! The difference between driving a sports car and a boat!...
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Re: Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2019, 04:43:04 PM »
Cornering the 95' Tower Letters is even worse because the huge rear overhang.

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Re: Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« Reply #5 on: March 17, 2019, 06:57:05 PM »
I am just gonna shift over to across the Hudson to Jersey City and Hoboken that say Tillers do not work for them. Eone Metro all the way. Even North Hudson Regional Fire in Rescue has problems with the Tillers, they want the Eone Metro.

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Re: Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« Reply #6 on: March 17, 2019, 08:24:36 PM »
The rearmounts have had a poor turning radius for many years. The smart LCC would know to make the three point turn in advance, instead of trying to fudge a tight turn. I was fortunate, drove RM, TL and tillers. Each unique, especially positioning. As a regular LCC of a tiller, if the rig went out of service, sometimes there would be no tillers available for replacement and we would get a RM. What a sight to see the other LCC's who never drove a RM, got ugly! The difference between driving a sports car and a boat!...

Over the course of time the rigs have gotten considerably larger. The width of the roads were designed when  there were still horse drawn rigs.    Now with this mayor and the previous Mayor.  They decided that they want to put in bike lanes and pedestrian walkways thus making the street more narrow   You also have to put into account is there are any illegally parked cars blocking them from making a tighter turn.  But itís pretty easy to judge a chauffeurs ability when you arenít behind the wheel and just standing there behind a camera   Guess itís the same thing.  The manufacturer basically just puts their name plate on the rig.  The job writes the specs down to the nut and bolt

 I think those who have the experience and have driven fire apparatus in New York City can tell it best.

 The pros and cons of every type of truck in a place like NYC vs maybe a place like L.A. City might be quite different. Both of course major cities.

 

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Re: Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« Reply #7 on: March 17, 2019, 09:58:34 PM »
Anyone know how the E-One Metros in Jersey City, Hoboken and Boston are holding up?

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Re: Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« Reply #8 on: March 17, 2019, 10:57:25 PM »
Jersey City has the first Demo Metro and another one is about to be in the city in about 3 months. Very good truck! Hoboken loves the metro with the tight streets. Only thing that works

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« Reply #9 on: March 17, 2019, 10:59:17 PM »
Plus Newark NJ just got 3 Metros

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Re: Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2019, 07:37:42 PM »
Anyone know how the E-One Metros in Jersey City, Hoboken and Boston are holding up?
Sounds like BFD likes the Metros, with the upcoming order the city will have 19 Metros, leaving 2 new E-One towers and a single KME rear mount making up their aerial fleet.

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Re: Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2019, 12:53:36 AM »
Sfdc111,
Thanks for the info. Wonder why Boston is holding onto the one K M E

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Re: Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2019, 02:40:58 PM »
I believe for the most part they're being replaced by E-One. Except the new tower ladders.

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Re: Ladders Terrible Turning Radius
« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2019, 07:19:52 PM »
Sfdc111,
Thanks for the info. Wonder why Boston is holding onto the one K M E

As itís been relayed, the KME aerial has a different motor than the ones that have all the issues, itís currently assigned to L16, I believe the members at 16 like their truck, but with the way BFD buys trucks they could easily add an additional ladder to make a full Metro front line fleet.

 

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