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Re: FDNY Response Guidelines
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2019, 04:14:37 PM »
During a 2nd Alarm.  How are the roles for a BC that is designated as Safety different than the Safety BC?
There used to be 2 Safety BNs on duty SB*1 was quartered on Randalls Island at the Mask Service Unit FH & SB*2 was Quartered on Bradford St with 332/175 in ENY..... around 1999 or 2000 they decided to cut/disband one of them (SB*2) now with only one to respond Citywide they did a "smoke & mirrors" move & had all regular BCs attend a one day class on Safety & then all BCs were deemed "qualified" to act as " "Safety Chief"....as said the designated SC holds down the fort until the actual SB  arrives & generally either assists him or could be assigned to another Sector depending on conditions either way we lost a BN. when they disbanded SB*2.

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Re: FDNY Response Guidelines
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Re: FDNY Response Guidelines
« Reply #16 on: April 17, 2019, 12:24:36 PM »
Indianapolis Fire Department is a little different.

A Residential fire response  is 3 Engines(1 is RIT), 2 Ladders, a Squad and a BC.  A working fire adds a Ladder(RIT), a Medic Ambulance, a TSU(Air/Rehab), and Safety Officer.

A Commercial or Multi-Residential fire gets an extra Engine on initial dispatch. Also the shift commander on marking worker.

A high rise, healthcare or school gets 5 Engines(1 RIT), 2 Ladders, a Squad, 2 BC, Shift Commander, Safety Officer.  On marking it a worker in a high rise, an automatic 2nd Alarm is dispatched along with a TSU.  Healthcare and School gets 1 Ladder(RIT) ,  a Medic Ambulance, a TSU(Air/Rehab), and Safety Officer.

Engines and Ladders are staffed with 1 Officer and 3 FF. A Squad is staffed with an Officer and a FF.  A BC has a Capt. as an aid.  A TSU is a Lt. only.  A Safety Officer is a BC that has no aide.


Back in the day, a Residence got 2 Engines, 1 Ladder, a Squad if close and a DC.  A Commercial or Multiple Residential got 3 Engines, 1 Ladder, 1 Squad if close and a DC.  A High Rise, Hospital or School got 4 Engines, 2 Ladders a Squad and 1 DC.  If downtown the Shift Commander went as well.  On Working fire, nothing was added unless requested for. 

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Re: FDNY Response Guidelines
« Reply #17 on: April 17, 2019, 01:11:04 PM »
Indianapolis Fire Department is a little different.

A Residential fire response  is 3 Engines(1 is RIT), 2 Ladders, a Squad and a BC.  A working fire adds a Ladder(RIT), a Medic Ambulance, a TSU(Air/Rehab), and Safety Officer.

A Commercial or Multi-Residential fire gets an extra Engine on initial dispatch. Also the shift commander on marking worker.

A high rise, healthcare or school gets 5 Engines(1 RIT), 2 Ladders, a Squad, 2 BC, Shift Commander, Safety Officer.  On marking it a worker in a high rise, an automatic 2nd Alarm is dispatched along with a TSU.  Healthcare and School gets 1 Ladder(RIT) ,  a Medic Ambulance, a TSU(Air/Rehab), and Safety Officer.

Engines and Ladders are staffed with 1 Officer and 3 FF. A Squad is staffed with an Officer and a FF.  A BC has a Capt. as an aid.  A TSU is a Lt. only.  A Safety Officer is a BC that has no aide.


Back in the day, a Residence got 2 Engines, 1 Ladder, a Squad if close and a DC.  A Commercial or Multiple Residential got 3 Engines, 1 Ladder, 1 Squad if close and a DC.  A High Rise, Hospital or School got 4 Engines, 2 Ladders a Squad and 1 DC.  If downtown the Shift Commander went as well.  On Working fire, nothing was added unless requested for.

Here in Fairfax we do it like this:

Initial report of a structure fire gets

4 Engines, 2 Trucks, 1 Rescue, 1 Medic, 2 Battalion’s, 2 EMS Supervisors, 1 Safety Officer, and 1 Investigator.

Upon a confirmation of a working fire, a RIT 1 Response is dispatched

RIT 1: 1 Engine, 1 Truck/Rescue, 1 Medic, 1 Command Unit, 1 Light & Air, 1 Safety Officer

A 2nd Alarm brings the same units as an initial, and a 3rd Alarm does the same

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Re: FDNY Response Guidelines
« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2019, 10:46:39 AM »
Yeah i guess the book is out dated

Sorry guys

Was just texted some updates. Thank you 290

Loading up the box. 
4-2 and rescue and squad if avail
No more fast truck or 2nd chief till the 10-75

If field comm batt is staffed they become the staging manager on the 3rd

Class 3. Automatic and valve alarms in private residences 1&1 no Chief
In commercials 1&1 and a chief.
Manual alarms and auto and valves in letter codes F G H I J K & T get 3&2

Class e is 1 engine or 1 ladder and a chief monitoring 24 hrs
Same for class J 1e or 1L and BC 0700-1900

Min response for gas leaks is 2&1     2&2 if both normally assigned 1st and 2nd due trucks avail.
Manholes 3&1 with the same stip for trucks

I’m pretty sure they still send the FAST Truck and 2nd chief when loading up the box. That is unless this was changed in the last month or so...

Changed 2 weeks ago

Box loaded up 4&2 Rescue Squad & Chief

10-75 transmitted brings Fast Truck 10-75 Chief Division & RAC

Yesterday they loaded up a box on 129th Street at around 10am in Manhattan. FAST truck was assigned (L30) and I believe the DC and FF Chief were assigned as well.
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Re: FDNY Response Guidelines
« Reply #19 on: May 13, 2019, 11:14:55 AM »
Maybe they forgot the new policy or went back to the old one
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Re: FDNY Response Guidelines
« Reply #20 on: May 15, 2019, 07:36:08 PM »
Sorry to bother again, I was listening earlier and a call was dispatched for a truck that hit scaffolding and that now the scaffolding was unstable. the Bronx dispatcher sent out a minor technical rescue response to that box, my question is what units go on a minor technical rescue response?

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Re: FDNY Response Guidelines
« Reply #21 on: May 15, 2019, 08:19:37 PM »
3 Engines
2 Trucks
1 Soc Support Ladder
1 Rescue
1 Squad
1 Tac Unit
Rescue Battalion
Safety Battalion
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