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COULD NYC BE NEXT ?
« on: August 23, 2019, 02:30:32 PM »

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COULD NYC BE NEXT ?
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Re: COULD NYC BE NEXT ?
« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2019, 02:59:28 PM »
Not being pessimistic but NYC is just short of being pronounced DOA. As long as these fake, phony frauds are elected to office and the misguided hipsters, libs and other nefarious individuals vote for them it's going to happen...and damn soon!

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Re: COULD NYC BE NEXT ?
« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2019, 04:28:37 PM »
 Recently on this site in the General Discussion area, there was a thread posted called: "Were We Better Off Then" ?

 A few common facts were presented that have seemed to change over the years. Many of us who were lucky enough to be around during those days readily admit that we would go back to that time if it were at all possible.

 http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,58507.0.html

 Some of us have noticed how things have changed. Yes, today our technology advancements have been great and we wonder how we made it back then without it.

 But what about our society as it is today ? Will our younger generation be better off 10 - 20 years from now if we keep going in our current direction ?

 I think this song kind of says it all.

 

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Re: COULD NYC BE NEXT ?
« Reply #3 on: August 24, 2019, 01:15:28 AM »
QUOTE.. After legalizing homeless camping on city land, Austin, TX officials seek to gag cops talking about problems
Posted: 7:48 AM - Aug 23, 2019
LibwithaClue
August 23, 2019
After legalizing homeless camping on city land, Austin, TX officials seek to gag cops talking about problems
By Thomas Lifson

To the shock of nobody who lives in the real world, the decision of the Austin, TX City Council last June to legalize homeless encampments on city owned land, including parks and sidewalks (but not in front of City Hall, where the council meets), has led to lots of problems for the self-sufficient populace, and thus to calls to the Austin Police for help. What follows sounds like satire written by Iowahawk. The Austin Statesman reports:
Late last month, intergovernmental relations officer Brie Franco pointed Austin Police Department Chief Brian Manley and others to a neighborhood post online about homelessness.
In the post, a resident said Austin police officers who answered his 911 call about a suspicious homeless man warned him that the city is in the beginning stages of a public crisis, similar that shown in the documentary “Seattle is Dying.” The resident, who is not identified but lives off South Congress Avenue, wrote that officers recommended he “write (Council Member Ann Kitchen) and continue to call 911.” The man also wrote that officers told him that under current city law, they are limited in what they can do.
In passing along the post, Franco noted: “It contains references to how some officers have responded to certain situations regarding the homeless, so I thought it was best to share with you.”
Why, you can’t allow police officers to speak to voters this way! How dare they predict that the problem, which is worsening, will get even worse! How dare they point to Seattle, where similar policies have allowed the homeless to take over entire neighborhoods! And how dare they tell voters to contact the elected officials who made the policy that has led to the problem!

Austin homeless encampment in a park (YouTube screen grab)
It was one of several examples in recent weeks that has city officials concerned about how police officers are talking about the city’s homeless policies in routine interactions with residents or while responding to calls, emails obtained by the American-Statesman indicate.
But don’t worry. The police bureaucrats are on the case:
Several police administrators subsequently sent messages to officers with guidance on what they should and shouldn’t say in their interactions with the public.
“Please, remind officers that it is unprofessional to tell concerned citizens to watch ‘Seattle is Dying’ and warn them that we are in the beginning stages,” Assistant Chief Todd Smith wrote Aug. 1. “Inferring we can’t do anything with dangerous people is misleading and causes unnecessary fear.”
We certainly wouldn’t want any “unnecessary fear.” But when drug-addled people unable to fend for themselves take up residence in front of your house and place of business, relieving themselves without benefit of plumbing, isn’t a certain degree of fear prudent?
Apparently, the cops on the street think so, but the bureaucrats don’t:
According to the resident’s post flagged by Franco, officers who responded to his call also told him that the homeless man who prompted the 911 call “is very dangerous when he is high. He also said if he had been sleeping on the grass by the street, he would have been unable to do anything about it because of the new laws.”
Cops who have to deal with these problems talking frankly to citizens who have to deal with them is the real problem... if you are a bureaucrat or a politician. And what’s not the problem: following the same path that’s led California and Washington cities toward typhus, rats, excrement in the streets, and aggressive panhandling.

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Posted: 11:46 AM - Aug 23, 2019
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Blame the residents of Austin, TX... THEY elected these liberal council members into office and empowered them to pass legislation to allow the homeless to set up camps on public sidewalks. This is where the blame lies... plain and simple.

Cops hands are tied. How can a cop "evict" the homeless if your local government has approved of them being there? Don't these residents get it? Cops don't make the rules, we simply enforce existing rules! And, now you criticize the cops for speaking their minds about the problem instead of actually addressing the problem. Don't deflect on the cops for speaking up ... focus on fixing the problem.

Calling 9-1-1 over and over again to complain about homeless people in your neighborhood is a waste of valuable police resources, because YOUR local city council members have passed legislation to allow the homeless to set up camps in front of your homes, your businesses, playgrounds, churches, your kids schools... Ironically, the only exception to the rule is that the homeless can't set up camps in front of City Hall... ha, ha, ha ... you voted them in. The blame is on you!

If you are unhappy with your elected officials, then simply do your civic duty and vote these guys out of office. And please, stop bothering the cops! The blame is all on YOU!

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Re: COULD NYC BE NEXT ?
« Reply #4 on: August 24, 2019, 11:47:26 AM »
As the quote goes, "those that fail to remember history are destined to repeat it." The Bronx, North, South, East and West was a wonderful borough to work, raise a family in the 30's, 40's 50's, and half of the 60's.  Then as the South Bronx began to change, became poorer, the "broken window" analogy was accepted and flourished. Bronx fire companies that had 50 to 100  building fires a year workload in 1960 would do a 100 in one month in 1970. Again, 82 engine in July of 1975 had 210 building fires with 205 hours of structural work for this one month. Put a picture of Berlin in 1945 next to a picture of Charlotte Street in 1975 and if the pictures aren't labled tell me which is which. The destruction of many neighborhoods, many families both neighborhood residents and first responders was destroyed by what was allowed by the "city fathers" and their millionaire bosses who saw the opportunity to make "future" money as the buildings were abandoned. It would be interesting to know who owned the Charlotte Street land as the townhouses went up. If anyone thinks that so many neighborhoods are facing now with the homeless is different than what was faced with the junkies and firebugs in the 60's and 70's; as the people in these neighborhoods give up and leave, the vultures will descend.