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SEE THE NEW FDNY MARINE # 6 - 'BRAVEST'
« on: November 26, 2010, 07:46:50 PM »
http://www.kitsapsun.com/photos/2010/nov/19/155919/

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SEE THE NEW FDNY MARINE # 6 - 'BRAVEST'
« on: November 26, 2010, 07:46:50 PM »

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Re: SEE THE NEW FDNY MARINE # 6 - 'BRAVEST'
« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2010, 08:02:57 PM »
Does anybody know what the specifications for this boat are?  I'm particularly looking for pump capacity, engines, etc.

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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2010, 08:13:19 PM »
Nice find on the photo, Chief.  Anybody know how it's getting from Seattle to NY?  Rail??   Sail (Lo o o o o n g trip for a 64 ft boat)??
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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2010, 09:35:53 PM »

SEATTLE — Brace yourself, Curt Mauck warned.

Then the Safe Boats International project manager hit the brakes while going 40 knots.

The reverse jet thrust stopped the 64-footer prototype fire boat — its bow almost dipping into the ice-cold Puget Sound — dead in the water after about 100 feet.

The prototype — dubbed “Bravest,” with its name spelled out in letters cut from steel from the fallen World Trade Center Towers — is a new type of fire-fighting boat that the New York Fire Department wanted. It is also the first fire boat that Port Orchard-based Safe Boats has ever built.

The New York department’s fire boats are old. Some are big, capable of spraying huge amounts of water, but are slow. Other small boats are really fast, but pack very little punch when it comes to spraying water on fires.

New York is ready to replace an 18-year-old 52-foot medium-sized fire boat. It wants the replacement to fill a gap between big but slow and fast but puny.

So it approached Safe Boats International — which already provides other sizes of boats to the department — to create a new type of medium-size fast boat.

New York Fire Department’s experts checked out the prototype jet boat this week.

“It’s turned out better than we envisioned. ... The boat is beautiful,” Bill Seelig, the New York Fire Department’s chief of special operations, said on Friday.

 
The Bravest, a new 64-foot fire boat built by Safe Boats International for the New York Fire Department, is docked at Seattle. It’s the first fire boat Safe Boats has ever built, although the Port Orchard-based company has sold other types of boats to the New York Fire Department. (John Stang | For the Kitsap Sun)
 
Curt Mauck, a project manager for Safe Boats International, pilots the Bravest on Friday in Elliott Bay. The Bravest, a new 64-foot fire boat built for the New York Fire Department, is the largest boat Port Orchard-based Safe Boats has ever built. (John Stang | For the Kitsap Sun)
Three engines propel the aluminum “Bravest” with the center one doubling as a pump engine capable of spraying up to 6,000 gallons of wager per minute on a fire. The boat’s GPS system can keep it in place, compensating for the thrust of spraying water. It has foam and dry-chemical spray systems to handle electrical fires without weighing a burning boat down with massive amounts of water.

Its official top speed is 45 knots, but everyone involved strongly hints that it can creep a few knots higher. It can get into shallow water that the bigger fire boats cannot handle.

It is longer than anything Safe Boats has ever built; the previous biggest boat is a 49-foot riverine combat vessel.

The price tag is $3 million to $5 million, depending on whether it is a basic boat or one with all the extra equipment, said Safe Boats President Scott Peterson.

“We’re looking forward to it being a big piece of the puzzle to move forward,” Peterson said.

That includes diversifying Safe Boats a bit as well as expanding it a bit, he said.

Right now, Port Orchard-based Safe Boats has about 265 employees building about 160 boats annually, scattered across several different models. Peterson hopes to build up to six fire boats a year, which could add up to 45 extra workers.

Officials from the Seattle, Portland and Anchorage fire departments checked out the Bravest in Seattle this week.

Seelig said New York is considering buying a second boat of the same model as the Bravest. That city’s fire department is also considering buying 10 33-foot boats and three 31-foot boats from Safe Boats, Seelig said.

Peterson recalled watching television in January 2009 when a US Airways flight landed in the Hudson River and the New York Fire Department got the 155 people off the plane with boats built by the Port Orchard company.

“We are so proud to be part of the New York Fire Department,” he said.



Read more: http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/2010/nov/19/new-fire-boat-a-big-piece-of-the-puzzle-for-port/#ixzz16RjNQASR

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Re: SEE THE NEW FDNY MARINE # 6 - 'BRAVEST'
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2010, 03:36:02 PM »
Great article, wow buying 10-15 more boat's.

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Re: SEE THE NEW FDNY MARINE # 6 - 'BRAVEST'
« Reply #5 on: November 28, 2010, 07:22:16 PM »
The 3rd to last paragraph in the story concerning buying "10 33 footers & 3 31 footers ".....must be a misprint unless they are for free.....closing FH s & buying more boats ?

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« Reply #6 on: November 28, 2010, 08:10:47 PM »
Its a different budget!  The boat money might be from grants that they all ready received. Some of the boats are to be used by EMS personnel from what I been told.
But what is interesting is the fact that they are also interested in getting a second large size safe boat. Are we looking at another full time boat in the city?  Just something to think about.

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« Reply #7 on: November 28, 2010, 08:51:36 PM »
A dollar is a dollar no matter what budget it comes from.
When you get promoted, it doesn't make your subordinates dumb

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« Reply #8 on: November 28, 2010, 09:01:37 PM »
But what is interesting is the fact that they are also interested in getting a second large size safe boat. Are we looking at another full time boat in the city?  Just something to think about.
It would certainly seem like it would have to be fulltime.  For the complexity of a boat like that you could just use engine company personnel.  The only other possibility would be stationing it was one of the other new big boats and have whichever is most appropriate respond?

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« Reply #9 on: November 28, 2010, 09:36:07 PM »
Bulldog - you just might be right. Mar 9 in Staten Is just might be the spot so that they can get to the west side of SI & into the Rockaway area quickly. I know that there was talk of a full time marine unit in the Jamaica Bay area. For the months in service, Marine 3 is the busiest unit for the entire Marine Div each year.  With all the smaller vessels that they are getting, each Marine Co should be assigned two boats each. Station them on both sides of the units berths (north & south) for rescue operations. Marine 1A does a bang up job in the Hudson Rv & Upper NY Bay area. I been told that another agency calls it the Red Devil of the Hudson. I been lead to understand that the new boats will have triple engines. I known that 3, 4, & 8 are only dual engine vessels.

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Re: SEE THE NEW FDNY MARINE # 6 - 'BRAVEST'
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2010, 02:25:08 AM »
All well & good to restore the Marine Division to where they were years ago but not when land Units are on the chopping block grants or not.

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« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2010, 06:12:47 AM »
I do not think that the Marine Div will ever be back to where it was. We had three boats on the Hudson, one in the Harlem Rv, one for Long Is Sound - City is area, four in the East River, besides one in SI & another one in lower Bklyn in addition to two smaller vessels. (one at E-329 & the other behind E-331. Now remember all of these did not serve at the same time.

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« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2010, 02:53:31 PM »
From the "RANT" by ny10570

From the last strategic plan issued by the department.

Expand the Marine Operations’ capacity for emergency response utilizing grant funds to:
o Acquire seven Rapid Response Boats (33 feet) to complement FDNY’s larger boats and
further enhance response capabilities to emergencies.
o Acquire three Medical Response Boats (31 feet) to ensure that a marine resource is dedicated
to patient triage and care to enable the Department to treat and rapidly transport patients in
need of medical attention.


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Re: SEE THE NEW FDNY MARINE # 6 - 'BRAVEST'
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2010, 05:44:46 PM »
Would these EMS Boats be Staffed/Operated by EMS or under Fire?

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Re: SEE THE NEW FDNY MARINE # 6 - 'BRAVEST'
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2010, 06:00:16 AM »
these EMS boats seem like a duplication of service. imho best course of action would be to staff and equip all fireboats with a paramedic and ALS supplies.

 

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