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Apparatus / Re: High Ladders
« Last post by Lionheart on Today at 07:40:25 AM »
We photoshopped that photo of the Bronto in San Antonio for April fools day.  It's actually somewhere in Europe.

In this article you will have a nice picture from the F112 Bronto Skylift:
https://iffmag.mdmpublishing.com/bronto-skylift-2/
Also a video


As i know, one F112 is in service somewhere in china ...
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Bronx / 5/21/19 Bronx 10-75 Box 3134
« Last post by Signal73 on Today at 05:43:44 AM »
Fire Location: 2094 Boston Rd

Fire 1st fl of a 6 story MD

L-38 Fast

B-18 All Hands. Extra Engine & Truck E46 & L31

Maybe:
E-45,90,88,82,46s/c
L-58,41,38(Fast),31s/c
B-18,26
R-3
Sq-61
D-6
Rac-3
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Queens / 5/21/19 Queens 10-75 Box 7440
« Last post by Signal73 on Today at 04:51:25 AM »
Fire Location: 34-55 12 St

Fire 3rd floor of a MD

L-117 Fast

B-49 All Hands
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History / Re: GLORY DAYS
« Last post by 68jk09 on Today at 04:37:12 AM »
SOME INTERESTING PHOTOS FROM YESTERYEAR INCLUDING SOME VERY RARE RIG SHOTS.... some have been previously posted as individual photos on some sites & some were not.... i will flag a few ...0.20 min 2nd from left nycfire.net Site Admin RET CPT John Bendick as a
FF in ENG*75..... 0.35 LAD*120 & SQ*4 behind them in the forefront of the shot on a Brownsville St. early 1970's ......1:20 our old 1981 Mack that we were forced to re use due to demands by the community to make everything the same as when ENG*41 was closed before the Unit was closed .... the shot is shown IFO of Qtrs along w/every box that we could bolt on to carry all our equipment instead of an available Compartmented 1987 Mack .... 1:22 SQ*41 in our opening days July 1990 left to right FF Tony LaMagna ..FF Bill Flynn..FF Ken Kassman... ME ...FF John Halpin ..FF Kevin Donovan..... 1:29 ENG*310 w/one of the two Squirts..the other was originally assigned to ENG*71 (then to ENG*43 ?).....2:11 one of the only two Mack RMs the other was LAD*132 (i had worked my first day tour as a Covering LT in 290 then my first night tour as a Covering LT in 132 w/FF Lenny Johnson driving the Mack RM)......2:32 R*2 with the last "walk thru" Mack Rescue Rig a 1967 pulling out of Qtrs W/210 at 160 Carlton Ave bet Myrtle & Willoughby Aves when the block was still mostly occupied.... 2.55 Mack High Ladder w/ the original 144 ft Magirus Aerial (later retrofitted w/100 ft Grove Aerials & assigned to TCU 712 & 731..... 3:04 the only FDNY American La France RM it was a 1969 & originally a Demo offered for trial to the FDNY & Maroon in color & assigned to TCU*732 when they responded from ENG*277 on Knickerbocker Ave then later after an FDNY purchase was repainted traditional FDNY Red by our Shops & later after the TCUs were disbanded it was assigned to LAD*176 when they were organized in The BKLYN Tin House w/ENG*232 on Rockaway Ave & Bergen St...(i had a mid tour detail to drive it one night due to the Chauf. being injured ...very powerful w/ 4 on the floor & a very loud Jake Brake plus one of the first real Federal Q Sirens in the FDNY ).....PS the 1969 ALF was the first FDNY RM.... the next was a Seagrave & went to LAD*27-2 & also had only two covered jump seats...the Job never bought anymore ALF RMs but after the original Seagrave for 27-2 which was later assigned to LAD*10 all the following Seagrave RMs starting in 1970 had fully enclosed riding positions but when the adaptive response started there was no inside riding position for the extra FF so our Shops cut out a Compartment midway on the Officers side & made a "phone booth" w/a rear facing seat on the original 1970 RMs & awhile after that Seagrave then incorporated the design into all their future Rigs for many years until the Staffing was again cut back negating the need for an extra enclosed riding position... .3:24 a shot of LAD*102 with the old Phone Booth riding position which some LADs used for the Can Man & some for the Roof Man ..... 0:32 a shot of SQ*1's ALF with the first experimental "roof painted white" to make a Rig cooler inside w/out A/C.. = BS..... 3:36 a shot of the BX Tin House Boston Road & 169 St formerly War Years ENG*85 RIP & LAD*59.. now an EMS Station as is the BKLYN Tin House..... 3:53 a shot of the disbanded ENG*278 RIP....4:12 ENG*70 equipped w/a retrofitted short Aerial Ladder ( a former Squirt Rig ?)..this Rig was used on City Island as a hair brained idea during the period LAD*53 had been disbanded.....   https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2&v=BCtRC7EfaRI

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General Discussion / Re: NYC Dept. of Buildings, Emergency Vehicle
« Last post by FDNY793727 on Today at 02:26:22 AM »
Thanks much for the info - I used to almost have this stuff memorized.  I was informed once, some years ago that do to the City's population - the Mayor & City Council have authority over & above the NYS VTL and have the authority to authorize as deemed required, I never really dug in to find out how valid the info was.
Right, Section 1642 of the VTL deals with "Additional traffic regulations in cities having a population in excess of one million" and says "local laws...shall supersede the provisions of this chapter...with respect to the following enumerated subjects" with section 6 being "Operation of authorized emergency vehicles." The NYC DOT Traffic Rules define an "emergency vehicle (authorized)" as "every police vehicle, fire vehicle, emergency ambulance service vehicle, and every other emergency vehicle as defined in 101 of the Vehicle and Traffic Law," with 101 being the above definition. So it seems the city Traffic Rules use the same definition as the state does.

Again, related to the lights, the city Traffic Rules state in Section 4-09 (c): "No operator of a motorcycle or motor vehicle, other than authorized emergency vehicles, shall operate said vehicle when displaying other than white or yellow lights visible from in front of the vehicle. No operator of an authorized emergency vehicle shall operate said vehicle when displaying other than white or yellow lights visible from in front of the vehicle except when actually engaged in emergency service".

The only mention of utility vehicles in the city Traffic Rules relating to this, that I can find anyway, is under Section 4-13 Truck Routes. The exceptions under part (2) are: "These rules do not apply to authorized emergency vehicles and authorized public utility company vehicles engaged in an emergency operation as defined in 114-b of the Vehicle and Traffic Law," even though utility vehicles can't engage in emergency operations according to 114-b. Still, this part only says utility vehicles could violate rules on truck routes. Also, I'm no expert, there's probably someone else who can answer more definitively.
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General Discussion / Re: NYC Dept. of Buildings, Emergency Vehicle
« Last post by BoroCall on Today at 01:34:54 AM »
In addition to what has been said above, the New York State Vehicle and Traffic Law has a specific definition of "authorized emergency vehicle" which is "Every ambulance, police vehicle or bicycle, correction vehicle, fire vehicle, civil defense emergency vehicle, emergency ambulance service vehicle, blood delivery vehicle, county emergency medical services vehicle, environmental emergency response vehicle, sanitation patrol vehicle, hazardous materials emergency vehicle and ordnance disposal vehicle of the armed forces of the United States." So having a utility or DOB vehicle operate as an emergency vehicle is against the state VTL.

As far as the lights, as per the NYS VTL, "One or more red or combination red and white lights, or one white light which must be a revolving, rotating, flashing, oscillating or constantly moving light, may be affixed to an authorized emergency vehicle, and such lights may be displayed on an authorized emergency vehicle when such vehicle is engaged in an emergency operation, and upon a fire vehicle while returning from an alarm of fire or other emergency." However, if it's not an emergency vehicle, it shouldn't have the flashing red and white lights. Blue lights can only be used volunteer firefighter's vehicles or by fire/police/EMS vehicles for "rear projection" only. It's the same thing with a siren, they can only be used on an "authorized emergency vehicle."

I'm not saying this necessarily stops any city/local agencies from doing this, I'm just mentioning what's in the state VTL.

Thanks much for the info - I used to almost have this stuff memorized.  I was informed once, some years ago that do to the City's population - the Mayor & City Council have authority over & above the NYS VTL and have the authority to authorize as deemed required, I never really dug in to find out how valid the info was.
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Apparatus / Re: New Satellites in Production
« Last post by Brooklynalex32 on Today at 12:51:07 AM »
Why couldn't they just get spartan chassis like collapse rescues 3 and 5for the satellites? It will look much nicer and more of a consistency
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General Discussion / Re: NYC Dept. of Buildings, Emergency Vehicle
« Last post by FDNY793727 on Today at 12:48:16 AM »
In addition to what has been said above, the New York State Vehicle and Traffic Law has a specific definition of "authorized emergency vehicle" which is "Every ambulance, police vehicle or bicycle, correction vehicle, fire vehicle, civil defense emergency vehicle, emergency ambulance service vehicle, blood delivery vehicle, county emergency medical services vehicle, environmental emergency response vehicle, sanitation patrol vehicle, hazardous materials emergency vehicle and ordnance disposal vehicle of the armed forces of the United States." So having a utility or DOB vehicle operate as an emergency vehicle is against the state VTL.

As far as the lights, as per the NYS VTL, "One or more red or combination red and white lights, or one white light which must be a revolving, rotating, flashing, oscillating or constantly moving light, may be affixed to an authorized emergency vehicle, and such lights may be displayed on an authorized emergency vehicle when such vehicle is engaged in an emergency operation, and upon a fire vehicle while returning from an alarm of fire or other emergency." However, if it's not an emergency vehicle, it shouldn't have the flashing red and white lights. Blue lights can only be used volunteer firefighter's vehicles or by fire/police/EMS vehicles for "rear projection" only. It's the same thing with a siren, they can only be used on an "authorized emergency vehicle."

I'm not saying this necessarily stops any city/local agencies from doing this, I'm just mentioning what's in the state VTL.
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General Discussion / Re: NYC Dept. of Buildings, Emergency Vehicle
« Last post by BoroCall on Today at 12:30:22 AM »
BORO i would say that the Fire Patrol when in existence they were condsidered part of a Firefighting Force rather than a Utility Company, they were a Local in the IAFF.... as far as the IC making a fortwith request the point is not too make the Driver speed up but to get the Con Ed Dispatcher to possibly shuffle assignments around to get a priority response.

Hi Chief, If the IC is making a forthwith request, doesn't that mean that Con Ed is required on the scene as conditions are serious or worsening, and in some cases life threatening?

I guess what I'm getting at in all this is that if the DOB has emergency light's and I'm presuming a siren on what might be a supervisor's vehicle to get to the site of a building in dangerous condition, then shouldn't it be equally important for Con Ed to get to/be at the site of it's corresponding dangerous condition?

Also, I understand that the NYC FP was part of the IAFF, but does the IAFF have the power to authorize the FP as emergency vehicles and if not, being private who/where did the authorization come from.

I did not realize that my sighting and report of, would creating a conversation, I do hope I'm not boring anyone, but I do find everyone's reply's very informative.
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