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Incident Alert => Manhattan => Topic started by: firephish on March 20, 2017, 03:48:43 PM

Title: 3/20/2017 Manhattan All Hands Box 1410
Post by: firephish on March 20, 2017, 03:48:43 PM
Address: 182 St. Nicholas Avenue - between West 119 & West 120 Street

Fire on the 3rd floor of a 7 story 50x100 MD.

1547 - Bn. 12 - Based on radio transmissions, transmit the 10-75.

TL-23 FAST

1552 - Bn. 12 - All Hands - 1 L/S/O, searches underway.

1554 - Bn. 12 - Fire Apt. 3D. Searches will be delayed in the fire apartment due to Collyer's Mansion conditions. Primaries are negative on the floor above.

1602 - Div. 3 - 2 L/S, 1 L/O, fire is knocked down, primaries are negative in the fire apartment. DWH

1608 - Div. 3 - Transmit a 10-41 code 1. PWH - Duration 29 minutes.

1615 - Div. 3 - Secondaries are underway. Requesting an Engine (E-22) for watch line. Under Control - Duration 35 minutes.

Maybe:
E-37, 58, 59, 35, 22 s/c
L-40, 26, 23F
B-12, 11
S-41
R-1
D-3
RAC-1
Title: Re: 3/20/2017 Manhattan All Hands Box 1410
Post by: guitarman314 on March 20, 2017, 05:44:49 PM
Address: 182 St. Nicholas Avenue - between West 119 & West 120 Street

Fire on the 3rd floor of a 7 story 50x100 MD.

1547 - Bn. 12 - Based on radio transmissions, transmit the 10-75.

TL-23 FAST

1552 - Bn. 12 - All Hands - 1 L/S/O, searches underway.

1554 - Bn. 12 - Fire Apt. 3D. Searches will be delayed in the fire apartment due to Collyer's Mansion conditions. Primaries are negative on the floor above.

1602 - Div. 3 - 2 L/S, 1 L/O, fire is knocked down, primaries are negative in the fire apartment. DWH

1608 - Div. 3 - Transmit a 10-41 code 1. PWH - Duration 29 minutes.

1615 - Div. 3 - Secondaries are underway. Requesting an Engine (E-22) for watch line. Under Control - Duration 35 minutes.

Maybe:
E-37, 58, 59, 35, 22 s/c
L-40, 26, 23F
B-12, 11
S-41
R-1
D-3
RAC-1
  Where's E47 ??? >:(
Title: Re: 3/20/2017 Manhattan All Hands Box 1410
Post by: 1261Truckie on March 20, 2017, 06:27:11 PM
And L-30?
Title: Re: 3/20/2017 Manhattan All Hands Box 1410
Post by: JOR176 on March 20, 2017, 07:15:19 PM
If all available.

37-58-47-59     40-26    30
Title: Re: 3/20/2017 Manhattan All Hands Box 1410
Post by: enginecap on March 21, 2017, 08:32:18 AM
Watch line 30 min into the fire?
Title: Re: 3/20/2017 Manhattan All Hands Box 1410
Post by: scamall dubh on March 21, 2017, 11:17:51 AM
Watch line 30 min into the fire?

The New FDNY.
Title: Re: 3/20/2017 Manhattan All Hands Box 1410
Post by: auxlteng225 on March 21, 2017, 02:31:38 PM
Odd yes, different yes. but none of us were on scene when the chief made the decision. One rational just might be that the place was a real s++t house mess and rather than hold one engine and one or two trucks to get to the bottom of the pile the chief opted to go to a single engine watch line. Other activity in the area could have also been a factor in getting companies back in service. Short of making a telephone call to the chief I doubt if we will ever really know. Yes EngCap, in my seventy five years ( 75 ) of being with, working with and closely following the department there shore has been a lot of changes, and some, darned hard to understand.
Title: Re: 3/20/2017 Manhattan All Hands Box 1410
Post by: enginecap on March 21, 2017, 10:36:09 PM
Where I come from the first due truck would still be doing that work on fire floor 30 min into the fire.   Unless the times are all messed up , there is no explanation.  Little embarrassing actually
Title: Re: 3/20/2017 Manhattan All Hands Box 1410
Post by: EdMc on March 22, 2017, 01:05:38 AM
Another could be reason is when the Fire Department responds and stretches a line into the house or apartment, technically, the FD has a kind of ownership of that property.  As long as a charged line is in that house or apartment that ownership remains.  Once the line is removed the occupants can lock the door and deny further entry.  If it was a suspicious fire and the Fire Marshalls where delayed, instead of keeping those companies there the Chief may have opted to bring in a fresh company just to watch that line.