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History / Re: Canvas or Rubber
« Last post by mack on September 22, 2017, 10:47:24 AM »
My father wore a black rubber turnout coat when appointed in late 1950s.  He wore a canvas turnout coat in the 1960s when promoted to LT. Then a rubber turnout coat as a chief in 1970s to mid-1980s.

     

I still have my rubber turnout coat.  Brother and brother-in-law wore rubber then later bunker gear.  Son is all bunker gear era.


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General Discussion / Re: The Ventures/Days of Doo Wop
« Last post by lucky on September 22, 2017, 10:24:18 AM »
While on the subject of the Capris, try to find the B side of "There's a moon out tonight. It is titled "Indian Girl", excuse me for not saying "Native American Girl" and had a great beat. Listen to the words and tell me if they wouldn't be arrested today by the politically correct police.
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Manhattan / Re: 9/22/17 Manhattan 10-75 Box 466
« Last post by mikeindabronx on September 22, 2017, 09:48:18 AM »
Fire Location: 424 East 13th St

Fire in the basement of a MD


08:28..BN-6 gave 10-75

L-9 FAST

08:40..D-1, All Hands, 2 L/S, 1 L/O (1 in the basement,1 on the 1st fl.)

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History / Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses
« Last post by mack on September 22, 2017, 09:38:13 AM »
I know a few posts have been made about Signs & or Numbers over FH Doors & i had posted about the Richardson St FH Lettering in the past however i just saw this picture of 229/146 on Firewire.....some good history on the lettering as follows ... the large ENGINE 229 numbers were made by a LT assigned to 229 back in the '70s ...he used a technique pouring molten metal into a "sand casting"  then chroming them & the Truck side of 146 who became a TL in the '70s had the only FDNY FH lettering using the word TOWER which they "got" from a previous no longer in existence WATER TOWER FH & added it to the old Hook & Ladder  lettering minus the Hook letters .... https://www.facebook.com/nycfirewire/photos/pb.492465197497698.-2207520000.1506064366./1459643460779862/?type=3&theater

L146 was organized on Richardson Street in January 1916.  I understood the new quarters was supposed to house the (never organized) Water Tower 7.  So as built, one bay may have lettered Hook & Ladder 146, and the other Water Tower 7.  Just before that E229 moved to that house in 1915.  I think the one bay may have been lettered Water Tower 7 till early 1970s, when the Lieut made the Engine 229 numbers, and "Tower" letters moved to the Truck Bay..

     Engine 29 BFD organized at 246 Frost St.                                    1890
     Engine 29 BFD became Engine 29 FDNY                                       1898
     Engine 29 became Engine 129                                                     1913
     Engine 129 became Engine 229                                                   1913
     Engine 229 moved to new firehouse 75 Richardson St. W/ D 11     1915

     Ladder 146 organized 75 Richardson St. at Engine 229                      1916

     Water Tower 7 never organized


75 Richardson Street firehouse 1947:

     


75 Richardson Street firehouse 2017:

     

     
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History / Re: Canvas or Rubber
« Last post by nfd2004 on September 22, 2017, 09:34:16 AM »
 Looking at some of these pictures today, it seems just "So Antique". But it was very sadly a lesson learned after the deaths of THREE FDNY Firefighters from Ladder Co 5, who suffered some very serious burns while operating at a fire on Watts St in lower Manhattan.

 I remember the words of the Youngest member at the time, I think Probationary Firefighter Jimmy Young as he was being placed into the ambulance that night. He said; "if I don't make it, just tell everybody that this is still the Greatest job in the world". Those words headlined every newspaper that covered the story.

 The Captain of Ladder 5, Capt John Drennan, suffered with very serious burns for 40 days before he passed away. I remember the late Lt Jimmy Curren talking briefly about it at a training seminar given at "the Rock". Lt Curren had said that he had received "Fourth degree" burns, which he described as burns into the bones.

 As I remember, it was after that fire that the FDNY decided to change to bunker gear. And bear in mind that I know of NO OTHER larger City in the northeast, except maybe Philly (?), which was using Bunker Gear.

 Before buying Bunker Gear for the entire dept, the FDNY tried several types with some of the busiest companies in the city. Facts were gathered on the results and the decision was made on which bunker gear to buy for the entire dept.

 After that serious incident and the FDNY decided to go to bunker gear, most every other city in the entire northeast followed their example. I remember as a firefighter in Connecticut, it was agreed upon by both the firefighters union and the city, in the written contract, that the city would provide such bunker gear to all of the firefighters.

 I'm sure most guys who worked with a rubber or canvas coat, and three quarter rubber boots, would tell you how much easier it was to move around and do the job. But we now know, because of what happen in the case of this serious Manhattan fire, the bunker gear used today is so much safer than what was used then. No doubt many firefighters lives are saved today throughout so many cities because of the Supreme Sacrifice that these Three FDNY Members had to pay. And because the FDNY was willing to do what they could to prevent this from ever happening again.   
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General Discussion / Re: The Ventures/Days of Doo Wop
« Last post by memory master on September 22, 2017, 08:47:30 AM »
Great find. Thanks Chief. Ah yes, those were the days!
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Manhattan / 9/22/17 Manhattan 10-75 Box 466
« Last post by Signal73 on September 22, 2017, 08:46:52 AM »
Fire Location: 424 East 13th St

Fire in the basement of a MD
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Manhattan / 9/22/2017 Manhattan All Hands - Under Control Box 1662
« Last post by firephish on September 22, 2017, 07:53:07 AM »
Address: 2999 Douglass Boulevard - off West 155 Street

Compactor fire in a MD.

Box loaded up due to calls.

L-28 FAST - E-59 4th Engine

0523 - E-69 - We have smoke in the streets at the Polo Grounds. Possible compactor fire.

0530 - Bn. 16 - We are using 1x2 for a fire in the compactor chute. We are dumping water in to the chute. Holding all units.

0559 - Bn. 16 - All visible fire extinguished. Still checking apartments. Under Control - Duration 42 minutes.

0610 - Bn. 16 - We used All Hands - Everybody's taking up.

Maybe:
E-84, 69, 67, 59
L-34, 23, 28F
B-16, 12
S-41
R-3
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Manhattan / 9/22/17 Manhattan 10-75 Box 1671
« Last post by Signal73 on September 22, 2017, 06:55:08 AM »
Fire Location: 547 West 157 St

Fire in a MD

10-70 transmitted (E80 WRU)

B-16 extra 1&1

Maybe:
E-84,67,80,69,93s/c
L-34,23,28(Fast),45s/c,30s/c,40s/c
B-16,13
R-3
Sq-41
D-6
Rac-1

D-6 extra truck. Heavy clutter
D-6 extra truck relief

Relocations:
Engine 92 Act. Engine 67
Ladder 55 Act. Ladder 34
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History / Re: FDNY and NYC Firehouses
« Last post by 811 on September 22, 2017, 05:23:32 AM »
L146 was organized on Richardson Street in January 1916.  I understood the new quarters was supposed to house the (never organized) Water Tower 7.  So as built, one bay may have lettered Hook & Ladder 146, and the other Water Tower 7.  Just before that E229 moved to that house in 1915.  I think the one bay may have been lettered Water Tower 7 till early 1970s, when the Lieut made the Engine 229 numbers, and "Tower" letters moved to the Truck Bay.. 
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