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Title: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: catry on April 19, 2008, 11:47:32 PM
I've seen a lot of repeat questions asked all over on forums, youtube, etc.  So here's me attempt at a comprehensive FAQ; feel free to add anything else you want to see added/corrected.

Post 1: Fire Operations and Special Operations | Post 2: Communications and Apparatus | Post 3: History

Fire Operations

Terms and Terminology:

Q: What is BI?
A: BI (or officially BISP) stands for Building Inspection Safety Protocol.  This was implemented in 2007 following the death of 2 firefighters at the Duetsche Bank Fire, and replaced the old AFID program.  Conducted every weekday, companies go out and inspect buildings in their first due response area to gather CIDs information and inspect for violations.  When a unit is delayed due to BI it is usually because they have members inside a building and/or are responding from different parts of their area.  At around 10:15 hours and 13:15 hours each day a roll all is taken over the air in each borough to check the 10-10 (location) of all units on BI.

Q: What is the FAST truck?
A: FAST stands for Firefighter Assist and Search team.  While usually a truck company at times engines and other units can be FAST.  A FAST truck at a box stands by in case a firefighter becomes trapped, injured, etc.; they are tasked, along with the Rescue and Squad, with locating lost firefighters and removing them safely.

Q: What is MUD?
A: MUD stands for Multi-unit Drill.  Conducted every weekend, it is usually a drill excercise run by two or more houses that run 1st and 2nd due together on multiple boxes (e.g. E297, E295, L130, and TL144 in College Point/Whitestone).

Q: Primary/Secondary searches?  What do they mean?
A: Primary searches are basically a quick sweep performed by truck companies while a fire is still burning.  Secondary searches are a more careful, meticulous search after most fire has been put out for victims and extensions.

Q: What is Decon?
A: Decon, short for Decontamination, is generally used in two ways.  The more common one is used by Engine companies following EMS runs when firefighters may need to clean off blood or other bodily fluids.  The less common use is in a HazMat situation where both civilians and FDNY personnel may become contaminated by chemical agents.  In that instance decon is usually done on-scene with one of the mobile Decon Shower trucks.

Q: What is [insert building type]?
A: There are several terms used to describe buildings.  They include but are not limited to:
 - Class 1: A (usually) more modern building made of fireproof material
 - Class 3: A (usually) older building made of non-fireproof material
 - SRO (Single-resident occupancy): A multiple dwelling with 1 occupant per room.
 - OMD (Occupied Multiple Dwelling)
 - PD (Private Dwelling)
 - Commercial
 - Mixed - Occupancy

Operations and Special Units:

For basic information on what companies do what, the FDNY has released educational videos on their website: http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/media/video/fdny-series/index.shtml (http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/media/video/fdny-series/index.shtml)

Q: What is a "Ladder Pipe Operation"?  What's a stang and a multi-versatile?
- Ladder Pipe: Aerial Ladder companies do not have a pre-piped waterway attached to the aerial.  In exterior operations tower ladders are usually used to deliver water to the fire.  However, sometimes an aerial might be located in a way that it can reach the building where a tower can't, at which point a ladder pipe is put into operation.  Ladder pipes consist of a nozzle with pre-attached length of hose, usually stored next to the aerial.  The nozzle is attacked to the tip of the ladder and the hose stretched down the aerial, thus providing a fixed elevated water distribution point.
- Stang: A stang is the term for a deck gun.  It can refer to the fixed deck gun on the engines or a portable one carried by engine cos.  Because stangs are weighted down or fixed they can be used to deliver more water than regular handlines at exterior operations.
- Multi-versatile: These are carried and supplied by the satellite companies.  A variety of lines can be supplied from 1 multi-versatile, making them useful in areas where hydrants may be limited.

Q: What is the job of a Squad company?
A: A squad responds as either an engine, truck, or special unit.  They respond as engines to 1st, 2nd, and 3rd due boxes (with the exception of Squad 1), and as a special unit on All-Hands in their response area.  Squad crews are also trained as HazMat techs and receive extensive SOC training.

Q: What is a Satellite?
A: The Satellite system actually consists of 2 parts: a 2000 gpm engine and a Satellite unit.  The Satellite carries a deck gun with changeable tips; when fed by the engine it can feed water at rates around 5000 gpm.  The Satellite rigs do not have pumps themselves; rather, they rely on the engine or a combination of engines to provide water.  The Satellite also carries extra foam, hoses, manifolds, and multi-versatiles.  The Satellite companies are E9/Satellite 1, E72/Satellite 2, E284/Satellite 3, E324/Satellite 4, E159/Satellite 5, and E207/Satellite 6.  Each Satellite also has a backup engine, these are Engs. 24, 97, 330, 291, 152, and 210.

Q: What is a Purple K Unit?
A: Purple K unit carries several pounds of dry chemical retardent which is used instead of water on certain chemical and electrical fires.  These rigs are assigned to an engine company and are staffed by members of the Engine.

Q: What is the High-Rise Unit?
A: High Rise Units are assigned to 10-76s and 2nd Alarm 10-77s citywide.  They carry equipment, lights, and generators that are used in combating high-rise building fires.  The High-Rise units are with Engs. 3 and 39, with Engs. 33 and 22 as backups.

Q: What do the High-Rise fire designations mean?
A: The high-rise designations are as follows:
- High-Rise Nozzle Engine: There are several engine companies citywide equipped with a High-Rise Nozzle, a long, bent nozzle that can be used to fight a fire via window from the floor below.  A nozzle can be seen here here (http://flickr.com/photos/jag9889/2668701053/) stored above the hosebed of E14.  Usually the 4th-due Engine.
- CFRD Engine: Because EMS workers are not equipped with SCBA, at high rise fires an engine company is assigned to perform CFRD work on the upper floors where SCBA may be required to operate.  Usually the 5th-due Engine.
- Lobby Control Engine/Chief: A High-Rise situation can be chaotic, both with the number of residents and responders.  Lobby Control crews are responsible for maintaining the lobby, assisting residents out and keeping the lobby clear for other crews.
- Safety Officer: Works with the Safety Battalion to ensure the safety of members while operating.
- Ventilation Support Co.: A company equipped with a  large Tempest Fan.

Q: What are the Thawing Units?
A: One in each borough, the Thawing Units are staffed only in the winter time and perform a "hydrant patrol" in which they thaw out frozen hydrants.  They respond on reports of frozen hydrants at working fires, and can be special called to assist with the thawing out of hydrants, connections, and hoselines.

Q: What are the Highway Units?
A: The Highway units at L159 and L170 are used for responses on the Belt Parkway.  They carry a compliment of truck tools and are used to access stretches of the Belt where weight requirements on the bridges do not permit a regular ladder apparatus.

Q: What are the RAC Units?
A: "RAC" stands for Recuperation and Care (or Rehab and Comfort depending who you ask).  One is assigned on all incidents of All-Hands or greater.  They carry a variety of replenishing fluids to supplement the cooler tanks carried by companies and provide a place for firefighters to take a breather during an operation, and are staffed by a single light-duty firefighter.

Q: What exactly is "The Rock"?
A: The Rock is the FDNY Training Academy on Randall's Island, located between the Bronx, Queens, and Manhattan.  New firefighters receive basic training here, companies conduct drills here, and several SOC and HazMat units are quartered here.  The Rock is also home to Chauffeur Training School (CTS) where firefighters train to operate the rigs.  Oftentimes brand-new rigs will go to CTS before being sent to companies so that newer trainees could become familiar with them.  Unused rigs that are not kept as spares or reserve companies are usually assigned to the Rock.

Special Operations Command
Q: What is SOC?
A: SOC stands for Special Operations Command.  The Rescues, Squads, HazMat Units, and a variety of other specialized units fall under this Division.

Q: What are the various SOC companies?
A: There are a variety of units marked "SOC."  The most common ones are:
- SOC Logistics Van: Basically assigned to assist with logistics at operations, carries extra supplies such as lights and batteries
- SOC Compressor Unit: This unit carries a large air compressor.
- SOC Dewatering Unit: A combination of the Dewatering Support Unit and a Tactical Support Unit, this company carries a dewatering pump to supplement those carried by engine companies for water removal operations.
- SOC Scuba Van: Technically a training unit now since all the Rescues are scuba-trained, this unit carries equipment and personnel for dive rescues as needed.
- SOC Decon: A decon unit similar to those quartered citywide.
- SOC Collapse POD: This is a combination company.  The first part is the POD (Point-of-distribution) carrier; there are two of these, one at the Rock and the other on SI.  The second part are the collapse PODs located throughout the city.  Each POD can be loaded onto the carrier (a la dumpster style) and transported as needed.
- SOC Battalion (Rescue Battalion)
- HazMat Battalion
- Marine Battalion

Q: What are the Collapse Rescue Units?
A: The Collapse Rescue Unit actually consists of 2 parts: the Rescue Company, and the Collapse Rig.  The Collapse unit responds to reports of collapses and 10-60s in the response area of the Rescue and carry a variety of planks and tools used for shoring up buildings.  Collapse Rescues 1, 2, and 4 are quartered with SOC Support Trucks (L25, L132, L116) that respond with them and assist with collapse operations.  CR3 and 5 are quartered with the Rescues.  The backups for the CR units are TL14, TL131, L27, TL116, and E160/TL79.

Q: What is the Squad 1 TRV?
A: Squad 1 TRV is a holdover from Squad 1's early days, following the disbandment of the original squads.  When Squad 1 was the first squad (and for decades the only squad) reformed, they were given the Technical Response Vehicle as a citywide special operations unit.  To this day they continue to respond with the TRV on all 10-60s citywide.  The TRV carries technical rescue equipment on one side and HazTec equipment (like those carried by the other squads) on the other.

Q: What are the Tactical Support Units?
A: The TSUs carry a variety of equipment not normally carried by the Rescues, Squads, and SSLs such as a generator, raft, crane, and Spotlights.  They respond to all 2nd alarms and special rescues citywide.  There are two TSUs, TSU1 on Roosevelt Island/The Rock and TSU2 on Staten Island.

Q: What is a SOC Support Ladder?
A: The SSLs consist of two pieces: the ladder company and a second supply truck.  SSLs carry a variety of tools not normally carried by trucks that may come in handy in a special operation, including extra rescue tools.  At least 2 SSLs are required to respond on a 10-60.  At times when Rescue and Squad companies are busy an SSL may be assigned instead.  A list of SSLs can be found here: http://nycfire.net/fdny/soc_truck (http://nycfire.net/fdny/soc_truck)

Q: What is a Chemical Protective Clothing Ladder?
A: A CPC truck consists of two pieces: the ladder company and a second supply truck.  CPC companies carry chemical suits used to mitigate HazMat situations, primarily for decon.  They are not the same as the ones carried by the HazMat companies.  A list of CPC units can be found here: http://nycfire.net/fdny/hazmat/cpc (http://nycfire.net/fdny/hazmat/cpc)

Q: What's the difference between HazTec and HazMat?
A: The main difference is degree of severity.  A HazTec incident is usually a smaller hazardous material spill or leak.  The city's Squads, as well as Engs 44, 165, 250, 274, and Rescue 5 are trained in HazTec operations and have a second piece for handling such incidents.  HazMat incidents are usually larger, either in size or danger depending on the chemicals (e.g. an oil tanker leak that cannot be containe by HazTec).  These incidents bring HazMat 1 and the HazMat Battalion.

Q: What's a Decon Task Force?
A: There are two kinds of DTFs, the Technical Task Force and the Mass Task Force.  Technical Task force consists of a SOC Support Truck, the engine housed with it, and the Battalion Chief for that house.  A list of TDTF can be found here: http://nycfire.net/fdny/hazmat/decon_tf (http://nycfire.net/fdny/hazmat/decon_tf) .  The MDTF by comparison consists of 1 Battalion, 2 engines, 1 CPC Tower Ladder, 2 SOC Support Trucks for gross decon of multiple victims.

Q: What's the difference between Marine 1 and Marine 1 Alpha?
A: There are two kinds of fire boats used by the city: the large, standard fireboat and a smaller attack craft.  The large boats, Marines 1, 6, and 9, have several deck guns capable of pumping out massive amounts of water at high pressure.  They are staffed full-time and respond normally assigned on all marine incidents and a majority of waterside boxes.  The smaller, faster attack boats may be staffed by as little as 2 firefighters, and only have 1 or 2 deck gun(s).  Several of them are seasonal companies that are only staffed at certain times of day, such as Marines 3 and 4.  Marine 1 and Marine 1A is a combination company, with Marine 1 being the main ship and Marine 1A being a fast attack boat.  When Marine 1 receives a box, the members will determine which boat is appropriate.

Q: Why do Marines 3, 4, and 8 go "10-9" at night?
A: These three "light" boats are only in service from 0700 hours to 2300 hours daily, from late spring to early fall.

Q: What is the Command Tactical Unit?
A: Operating out of FD Operations Headquarters at 9 Metrotech in Brooklyn, the CTU is basically a mobile camera van.  Staffed by 1 officer and 1 firefighter, it has a variety of wireless and satellite linked cameras, both portable and mounted, that could be set up to provide live video to the vehicle's interior monitors as well as to portable computers that can be set up at the command post.  They can also be streamed live to FDOC and remain in contact with FDOC to provide both Operations and the Incident Commander with updated information from multiple angles of the operation, providing both with live video of what was previously only conveyed through radio messages.

Also see the main site: http://nycfire.net/node/286 (http://nycfire.net/node/286)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: catry on April 19, 2008, 11:47:58 PM
Communications
For Dispatch-related questions I suggest checking out the following pages:

Frank Raffa's site: http://www.fdnewyork.com (http://www.fdnewyork.com)
Main site: http://nycfire.net/fdny/communications (http://nycfire.net/fdny/communications)
FDNY VHF/EMS UHF Radio Frequencies: http://www.n2nov.net/nypd_ems.html (http://www.n2nov.net/nypd_ems.html)
FDNY/EMS UHF Frequencies: http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,1289.0.html (http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,1289.0.html)

Q: What are the "Citywide" frequencies?
A: Citywide 1, the only Citywide frequency under the older VHF broadcast frequencies, is used primarily by special operations units and staff chiefs.  This is where units located at 9 Metrotech, the Rock, or Special Operations Command @ Roosevelt Island as well as the Safety Battalion can be raised when they are available.  The department's radio mechanics, in charge of maintaining rig radios, MDTs, and sirens, are also dispatched on Citywide.  Lastly, progress reports for incidents of All-Hands or greater, special unusual incidents, and all transmissions of a 10-45 (fire-related injury) are relayed to Citywide by either the borough of incidence of the FieldCom Unit.  Citywide 2 is not yet in use.

Q: What is the difference between the VHF and UHF frequencies?  Will I hear the same thing on both?
A: FD Communications is in the process of switching over from an older VHF radio frequency to the more fine-tone and wide-broadcast UHF.  While the change occurs, all frequencies will be simulcasting on both UHF and VHF frequencies.  The most notable change for some listeners will be the separation of Staten Island and Bronx into two separate frequencies.

Q: What is a "Class 3" alarm?
A: A Class 3 alarm is a signal received from an alarm system, either via automated system or manual pull.  For example: "Class 3 Box 620 Terminal 1 for the address 425 East 25 St for an ASA automatic alarm" means that an automated signal was received from the ASA company for Box 620 from fire station terminal 1.

Q: What is a class E, J, etc. alarm?
A: Under national standards fire alarm systems fall under various classes, labeled by alphabet.  Two of the more common ones in NYC are Class E and J.  Alarm types are separated by a variety of factors including: sprinklers, automatic responses, visual alerts, audio alerts, fire communications within the building, standpipes, etc.; class E for example includes full automated system including sprinklers, alarms, and light warnings.  Different alarm classes warrant different response assignments.  For example manual pull alarms receive a full 3 engine, 2 truck, Battalion response, whereas Class J alarms may be investigated by a single engine and truck with a Battalion chief monitoring.

Q: Who/what is Car [insert number]?  How do they respond?
A: The Car assignments are the designations for special personnel, either administrative or command, who are associated mainly with FD HQ.  For example, Car 36B is for the Department Chaplain.  There are certain responses, such as a third alarm or 10-60 transmission, that require the response of certain cars.  For example, multiple alarms requires the response of the on-duty staff chief (a chief at rank DAC or above).  There is a list of car assignments at: http://www.firebellclub.org/cars.html (http://www.firebellclub.org/cars.html)
Some Car assignments and who they are (as of November 2009):
Car 1 (Commissioner Daniel A. Nigro)
Car 1A (Executive Assistant to the Commissioner)
Car 2 (1st Deputy Commissioner Daniel Shacknai)
Car 3 (Chief of Department Edward Kilduff)
Car 4 (Chief of Fire Operations James Esposito)
Car 4A (AC James Manahan, Assistant Chief of Operations)
Car 4C (AC Ronald Spadafora, Chief of Logistics)
Car 4D (AC Joseph Pfeifer, Assistant Chief of Operations - Counterterrorism/Preparedness)
Car 4G (AC Edward Baggott, Assistant Chief of Operations - Administration)
Car 4H (DAC James Daly Jr, Deputy Assistant Chief of Operations - Planning & Strategy)
Car 5 (Chief of EMS Operations John Peruggia)
Car 6 (AC John Sudnik, Manhattan Borough Commander)
Car 7 (DAC James Leonard, Brooklyn Borough Commander)
Car 8 (DAC Michael Marrone, Staten Island Borough Commander)
Car 9 (DAC Robert Maynes, Queens Borough Commander)
Car 10 (DAC Kevin Butler, Bronx Borough Commander)
Car 11 (AC William Seelig, Chief of Special Operations Command)
Car 11A (BC Stephen J. Geraghty, Chief of Rescue Operations)
Car 11B (DC Nicholas Delre, Chief of HazMat Operations)
Car 11C (BC James Dalton, Chief of Marine Operations)
Car 12 (AC Stephen Raynis, Chief of Safety and Inspectional Services)
Car 13 (AC Thomas Jensen, Chief of Fire Prevention)
Car 13A (AC Richard Tobin, Assistant Chief of Fire Prevention)
Car 13B (DAC Joseph Woznica, DAC of Fire Prevention)
Car 14 (Chief Fire Marshal Robert Byrnes)
Car 15 (AC Thomas Galvin, Chief of Training)
Car 15A (DAC James Mooney, Chief of Fire Academy)
Car 16 (AC Robert Boyce Jr., Chief of Communications)
Car 17 (BC Michael Gala Jr., Chief of  Personnel)

Q: What is the FieldCom?  What's the difference between FieldComs 1 and 2?
A: Staffed by 2 dispatchers and a firefighter, the FieldCom unit assists with communications on the fireground and between the Incident Commander and the borough of incident.  It responds automatically on all second alarms, as well as below-grade level emergencies, high-rise incidents, and any other boxes where communications may be disrupted.  FieldCom 1 is the primary unit, FieldCom 2 is a reserve unit on a small Sprinter chassis.

Q: What are the Mobile Command Centers?  How do they differ from the Incident Management Unit?
A: The two large Mobile Command Center units are used for incident command at large-scale operations.  They facilitate communications and provides a command post for chiefs to operate from.  The smaller IMT Unit is used at major incidents for the Incident Management Team, who plot out how to progress with the operation.

Q: I heard on the air that searches are delayed due to "Collyer's Type Condition."  What does this mean?
A: The Collyer brothers were found dead in their Harlem brownstone in 1947 in what could only be described as a mini-landfill.  It took several weeks of clearing out before the decomposed body of one of the brothers was found.  The Collyer's type (or Collyer's Mansion) condition refers to an area that even under regular circumstances would be difficult to get around.

Q: What are the 10-45 codes?  How are they different from the 10-37 and 10-31 codes?
A: A 10-45 is transmitted for when a civilian is injured in a fire and requires medical assistance.  The 10-37 codes by comparison are used for any form of non-fire related medical assistance, while the 10-31 code is for any other form of civilian assistance, raging from assisting with a lockout to a stuck elevator. 
The 4 code levels of the 10-45 correspond with the EMS trauma tags:
- Code 1: Black Tag - Victim is deceased.  Does not require immediate attention
- Code 2: Red Tag- Immediate.  Victim has life-threatening injuries and requires immediate attention/transport
- Code 3: Yellow Tag- Delayed.  Victim has injuries that will require further, but not necessarily immediate, attention
- Code 4: Green Tag- Minor.  Victim is "walking wounded."  Minor injuries that can be treated on scene and do not require immediate attention.
The 4 code levels of the 10-37 correspond with victim condition:
- Code 1: Victim is deceased
- Code 2: Victim is not breathing, CPR may be required.
- Code 3: Victim is breathing with illness.
- Code 4: EMS is on scene and FD has no patient contact but may still operate (i.e. using apparatus for scene blocking)

Q: What are Queens Boxes 269 and 37, and why are they automatic 2nd alarms?
A: These are the crash boxes for JFK and LaGuardia Airport, respectively.  These can only be transmitted via manual/verbal alarms from the airport towers and are transmitted for an aircraft in distress.  Each box brings an automatic second alarm (8 engines, 4 trucks, 4 battalion chiefs, 1 division chief, tactical support unit, satellite company, Rescue, Squad, FieldCom, and a FAST company) as well as an additional Rescue, HazMat 1, HazMat Battalion, 2 additional satellites, the nearest Hosewagon (see below), the nearest Foam company, and the HazMat Battalion.  The boxes corresponding to the Airport firehouses and rendezvous points with Port Authority PD fire units.

Q: What is a staging box?
A: As its name implies, a staging box is a box transmitted for companies to respond to specific location to standby for further orders.  These can be dispatched for a variety of reasons; some examples are:
- Any 10-76 in Lower Manhattan requires staging Boxes 9031 and 9032 to be transmitted in Brooklyn for companies to standby at the bridges.
- At times of heavy fire activity in Staten Island, staging Box 400 may be transmitted for companies to stage at E160's quarters in order to ensure adequate fire protection on the island.
- An incident at Penn Station in Manhattan may be accompanied by Box 8550, which sends an engine, truck, and chief to each standby at each end of the East River Tunnel, plus a Rescue company to the Queens side.

Q: What does it mean when a Rescue or Squad is "normally assigned"?
A: Squad companies respond normally as Engine companies in their 1st, 2nd, or 3rd due areas.  For example, Squad 18 would be the 1st due engine to Box 508, but would be a Squad at Box 597 (where they are 4th due).  Rescues have their own 1st due areas, in which they'll respond 1st due to structural alarms.  For example, Rescue 1 would be assigned to reports of a structural fire at Box 912, but not to a class 3 alarm or a car fire.

Q: What does it mean when a company responds "emergency mode" or "modified response"?
A: For certain "minor" structural alarms such as reported gas leaks and automatic alarms, a full structural box is assigned.  However, only the 1st due engine and ladder respond on these calls with lights and sirens (emergency mode), while all other companies follow normal traffic regulations (modified response).  Companies may be upgraded or downgraded from/to modified response based on additional info.

Apparatus
Q: Who are the primary manufacturers of FDNY rigs?
A: Most engines, trucks, and rescues are made by Seagrave or Ferrara.  Chief and support vehicles are usually on Ford, Chevy, or GMC SUV or pickup chassis.  The majority of units are purchased via competitive bidding.

Q: What is the difference between a "Spare" and a "Reserve" apparatus?
A: The 25 Reserve Engine companies and 10 Reserve Trucks are fully equipped at all times and are quartered with regular companies citywide.  They are put into service on short-term basis when needed and operate as a regular company when in-service.  Spare apparatus by contrast are rigs kept at the Shops, not equipped with tools that are assigned to companies when their rigs are at the shops, usually on a long-term basis.  When a company receives a spare they must move all their tools over to the spare.  Spare units are usually identified by markings in sticker/duct-tape form, or at times not at all.  Usually a company will receive a specific type of spare based on their apparatus (i.e. rearmount to rearmount, tower to tower).

Q: What is the difference between all the engine types?
A: There are 5 main engine types in service:
- 2000/500 or 1000/500 - This is the most common, 2000 (or 1000 on older units) gallon per minute pump with a 500 gallon booster tank.
- 1000/500 HP - HP engines can be switched to High Pressure in stages, allowing them to pump at High Pressure.  Their main specialty is at High-Rise fires where the High Pressure could pump to High-Rise standpipes with more pressure than normal engines.
- 1000/750 - On Staten Island, some engines have 750 gallon booster tanks.  They are found in areas where hydrants may be fewer, such as around areas of brush.
- 2000/500 HP - Engine 8 is the only company with a 3-stage 2000 gallon per minute high pressure pump.

Q: Why are there so many different kinds of ladders in the city?
A: There are 4 main ladder types in service, each with their own benefits and drawbacks:
- 100' Rearmount aerial - The standard FDNY ladder truck.  Aerials can carry a variety of equipment and can quickly provide an exterior means of access to a fire building.
- 75' Tower Ladder - Tower Ladders offer a more stable elevated operating platform than aerials, and allow for victim removal from the exterior.  However, because of the considerably larger boom they cannot reach heights that aerials could, and the installed ladder rungs should not be used except in emergencies only.
- 95' Tower Ladder - the extra length of the 95' Tower gives it more reach, but also drastically increases the truck's length, making it harder to maneuver on narrower streets and too long for most houses.  They are thus limited to areas that truly benefit from having them.
- 100' Tillered Aerial - Tillers are few in the city but where they are assigned they are usually needed.  Because the rig is articulated and has rear-wheel drive, it can make tight turns that rearmounts and towers cannot, making them essential for tight areas such as Downtown Brooklyn and the Lower East Side.  However, the extra length and weight of the truck means that only certain houses can accommodate them.

Q: What is the ATRV?
A: ATRV 329 is a small 4x4 manifold used by members of E329 for responding to areas of Breezy Point where the streets are too narrow or too sandy for the normal engine.

Q: What is the JFK/LGA Hosewagon?
A: The hosewagons, quartered with the engine companies closest to the city's airports, are just that: wagons that carry hoses.  Due to the long stretches associated with runway incidents, a box at the airports requires the response of both a hose wagon and a Satellite company in order to get adequate hose and water/foam on an aircraft fire.  The two hosewagons are converted from the old satellites and do not carry pumps.

Q: What company makes the FDNY rig lightbars?
A: FDNY warning lights are predominantly made by Whelen or Federal Signal.

Q: What is the main FDNY siren?
A: Rigs that are 2003 or older models use a customized Federal PA300 with a foot switch that allows it to be operated like a Q siren.  2004 or newer rigs (except for a few engines) predominantly have Federal EQ2B siren.  Newer support or chief vehicles use the Federal Smartsiren.

Q: Why do FDNY chauffeurs "play" with the siren when responding instead of leaving it on wail/priority/etc.?
A: Studies have shown that mixing up the siren is more effective at moving traffic than leaving it steady.

Q: Why is the Federal Q Siren "banned"?
A: There are several reasons/theories as to why Federal Q sirens aren't allowed on FDNY rigs, including:
- Power draw of the sirens
- Noise/echo concerns in mostly high-rise environments
- warranty issues

Q: I spotted a rig at The Rock marked [insert unused number].  What's going on?
A: Most likely the rig was recently or is soon to be in a movie or television shoot.  Sometimes movies or TV shows like "Rescue Me" that involve the FDNY will use spare or training rigs for shoots.

Q: What are "The Shops"?
A: Located in Long Island City queens, the Shops are the main FDNY Maintenance Facility.  Rigs are brought here for routine maintenance as well as all repairs.  There are also several lots throughout the city were spare rigs are kept.  When a company's rig goes in to the shops for maintenance, they must transfer all their tools and hoses from their regular rig to the spare.  There are also several other shop buildings and yards, both in the LIC area and citywide, as well as contractors and dealerships in the tri-state area where work may be carried out.

Q: What are the Emergency Crews?
A: The EC units are basically roving repair vehicles.  They respond to the field when an FD rig requires field repairs or fixes at quarters, and belong to the Fleet Maintenance Division.  Other Fleet Maintenance vehicles that occasionally get called out to the field include the Tire Truck and the Fuel Truck.

Q: What is Squad 800?
A: Squad 800 is the designation of the "reserve squad company."  It operates a 1993 Seagrave 1000/500 engine that has been modified into a heavy rescue engine and is usually kept at either the Rock or on Roosevelt Island.  The rig is occasionally used as a spare squad piece.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: catry on April 19, 2008, 11:48:21 PM
History
For general History questions, I recommend looking up http://nyfd.com/ (http://nyfd.com/)

Q: What were the "War Years"?
A: The War Years were the busiest times in the history of the department, roughly ranging from the late 60s to the 80s (some even say the early 90s).  A combination of civil unrest, budget crisis, and deteriorating living conditions lead to an unprecedented - and unrepeated - amount of fire calls, especially in the Bronx and Brooklyn where entire city blocks burned down and All-Hands fires would be handled for by an engine and a tower ladder.  Some companies racked up over 8000 runs a year on fire calls and false alarms alone.  For some great War Years stories, see http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,3017.0.html (http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,3017.0.html)

Q: What were the original squads?
A: Please see this thread: http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,1104.0.html (http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,1104.0.html)

Q: What was [insert random company]-2?
A: During the War Years many companies had a second company staffed either full or part time that responded when the first piece was already out on a box.  Most of these were either disbanded or converted to other companies following the budget crisis of the 70s.

Q: What were the bell codes?
A: The bell codes were literally numeric codes that were banged out in quarters on the firehouse bell by fire communications, signaling department messages and tone outs in the days prior to department radios and voice alarms.  Some of these are still in use today, though with the exception of 5, 7, 5-7, and 6-5-2, are not often heard over the air.  A list can be found at http://www.nycfire.net/fdny/communications/bell_codes (http://www.nycfire.net/fdny/communications/bell_codes)

Q: Why doesn't [insert random number] company exist?
A: Please see http://nyfd.com/history/also.html (http://nyfd.com/history/also.html)

Q: What rigs were lost on 9/11?
A: Please see http://www.fdnewyork.com/apparatus.asp (http://www.fdnewyork.com/apparatus.asp)

Q: What rigs were donated after 9/11?
A: A variety of Seagrave engines and trucks were either donated or paid for through donations, including (but not limited to) Engs. 6, 7, 10, L10, L118, and Squads 1 and 18.  In addition, several non-Seagrave rigs were donated including:
- Ferrarra 1000/500 Engine: assigned to E283 before being moved to the Rock.  This rig returned to Louisiana after Hurricane Katrina
- Ferrarra Equipment Truck: Used as the SOC Dewatering Unit
- American La France 1000/500 engine: initially assigned to E34, now serves on Governor's Island to minimize time spent at the shops
- American La France Walk-in Rescue: First placed into service as a spare rescue, then served as Rescue 6.  Now alternates roles.
- Mack/General Safety Walk-in Rescue: First placed into service as a spare rescue, then served as Rescue 6.  Now used as Rescue 7.
- Spartan/Luverne 1000/500 Engine: Never placed into service, used as funeral caison.
- Spartan/Luverne/Aerialscope 75' Tower Ladder: Built with an ex-1973 FDNY Mack boom.  First served at TL105, now serves as TL53 to mimimize time spent at the shops.
- E-one Tactical Vehicle: This was actually used as a demo for Squad 1 TRV prior to 9/11.  When the TRV was destroyed, this vehicle returned to the FDNY as the replacement.

Q: What is/was Rescue 6?  How about Rescue 7?
A: Rescue 6 is the designation of the "reserve rescue company."  It has been placed into service several times in recent years including after 9/11 and for a month in 2004 during the National Convention.  Officially it operates the 2002 America La France rescue apparatus donated after 9/11, although that rig is also used as a spare rescue piece.  Rescue 6 is usually quartered at L20/Division 1 in Lower Manhattan.  Rescue 7 is the designation of the fully equipped reserve rescue.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: vbcapt on April 20, 2008, 08:43:25 AM
What do the different Classes of Fire Alarms mean? Class 3, Class E & I believe Class J
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: catry on April 20, 2008, 01:10:33 PM
Added them under "communications"!
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FDNYE54 on June 30, 2008, 01:09:26 PM
whats decon i herd that alot in manhattan today
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: RPM3311 on June 30, 2008, 01:35:30 PM
whats decon i herd that alot in manhattan today

decontaminate
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FDNYE54 on June 30, 2008, 03:10:56 PM
whats decon i herd that alot in manhattan today

decontaminate
i thoght so but they made it seam so much different
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: HCO on September 07, 2008, 01:11:40 PM
Noting the original poster's suggestion to offer changes or corrections, the following are submitted.  The original text is in quotes.

“All specialized units that are not normal engines, trucks, etc., fall under SOC”.

The following special units are not SOC components:  Mask Service Unit, Field Comm 1 and 2, Mobile Command Centers 1 and 2, Command Tactical Unit, Fire Scene Unit, Mobile Operations Center, High-Rise Units 1 and 2, IMT Planning Vehicle, FDR Drive Response vehicle, two ATV/MARC movers, three Hose Wagon/ATRV units, five Thawing units, six Purple-K units, eight Brush Fire units, ten Foam Carriers, and the Foam Tender.

“The Satellite carries a deck gun with changeable tips; when fed by the engine it can pump water at rates around 7000+ gpm”

The IntelliGiant monitor on the satellite wagons is rated at 5250 GPM with the largest (four-inch) tip at 150 psi.  The satellite wagons have no pumps.

“Purple K unit carries several gallons of chemical retardent”

The six Purple K units are intended to carry 1000 pounds of a commercial dry chemical made by the Amerex Corp.  A realistic load is about 750 pounds.

“CPC companies carry additional chemical suits in the event that those carried by HazMat 1 and the Haztec companies isn't enough for a hazmat incident.”

The CPC role is primarily defensive with emphasis on search, rescue, removal, and decon of civilians and emergency responders.  Their protective gear is tailored to their specific needs, and does not supplement that of the mitigation/offensive-oriented Hazmat and Hazmat Technician units.

“FDR 1 and 2 are a pair of Ford supply wagons with a small tank and pump.  There are two such rigs, one staffed by E16 and the other by E22.””

Only one FDR response vehicle is in service, at Engine 22.


Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: catry on September 07, 2008, 02:22:16 PM
Thanks, I've made the changes.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: manhattan on September 25, 2008, 10:57:29 AM
catry - Thanks for the time and effort you've put into this; it's really great.

A few more questions:

1. How, where and when are apparatus refueled?  Do any firehouses have their own diesel pumps?

2. I know the differences among building types (Class 1 and Class 3), but why isn't there a Class 2?

2. A.  Are these classifications related to NYC Department of Buildings' classifications or were they developed by FD?

3.  Same question for alarm classes:  there's a "Class 3" but no Class 1 or 2;  Classes "E" and "J", but what about "A" through "D" and "F" through "I"?

Thanks!

Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: catry on September 25, 2008, 11:34:52 AM
I'll answer these here since they're not entirely that frequently asked:
1. Most houses have their own pumps and are refueled in quarters.
2. I'm not versed in Building Code but I think there is a Class 2, it is just really uncommon in the city.  And these codes and the DoB's classifications are both based on national standards.
3. Likewise I'm not versed in alarm types, but I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong) these classifications are NFPA standards.  Class 3, E, and J are just the most common ones in the city, I'm sure there's more.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FD347 on September 25, 2008, 11:56:28 AM
Building classes:
Class 3 alarms are those received from a central station monitoring company. I don't know how or why we started using this term but it dates back at least 35 years, probably longer.

I was told that Class E and J alarms take their name from a building classification code unrelated to those I listed above. I don't know whose code it is though.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: fdnyrules92 on September 25, 2008, 01:05:45 PM
Most of the firehouses have a diesel pump in there quarters.  i knoow my dads house E92 L44 BN17 have them on both side of the apparatus floor
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: manhattan on September 25, 2008, 03:24:51 PM
Thanks for the quick replies.  Much appreciated.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FDNYE54 on September 28, 2008, 06:25:02 PM
Hey All, My name is James... my dad is on the job he works at  Engine 92 Ladder 44 Battalion 17, hes been on the job for 35 years.  my grandfather(dads father) was in squad 1 and a lieutenant in south jamaca in the 70's and 80's.he retired with 40 years on the job my dad used to take me to work with him from 96 til like 04 and i loved it. i had my own bunker gear and i used to put out car and rubbish fires. ive seen a lot of crazy shit.....engine 82 ladder 31 quarters go up in flames..i was there when Don Franklin L44 was killed in 2001 .  god bless his family. i have a long lasting love for theFDNY i want it so bad... ever since the day i stepped foot in his quarters. i was told by my dads friend who is  a lt. in engine 5. that its easier to get certified and become an emt and take the promotional test. i want to know how i can and if i can get CFR-D right now. because the next test "supposidely" is in 2011 and i wanna be ready at all costs.
did you get your own bunker gear and ride the rig when you have to be 21 and why dident he get a pension after 20 years working for 40 to 35 years answer me thoes and ill help you out

p.s. vouleenter at your local fire department than take the firefighter 1 and 2 test then you will take the medic class and there you go
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: tl-ff on September 28, 2008, 07:27:53 PM
Hey All, My name is James... my dad is on the job he works at  Engine 92 Ladder 44 Battalion 17, hes been on the job for 35 years.  my grandfather(dads father) was in squad 1 and a lieutenant in south jamaca in the 70's and 80's.he retired with 40 years on the job my dad used to take me to work with him from 96 til like 04 and i loved it. i had my own bunker gear and i used to put out car and rubbish fires. ive seen a lot of crazy shit.....engine 82 ladder 31 quarters go up in flames..i was there when Don Franklin L44 was killed in 2001 .  god bless his family. i have a long lasting love for theFDNY i want it so bad... ever since the day i stepped foot in his quarters. i was told by my dads friend who is  a lt. in engine 5. that its easier to get certified and become an emt and take the promotional test. i want to know how i can and if i can get CFR-D right now. because the next test "supposidely" is in 2011 and i wanna be ready at all costs.
first of all how the hell did you get your own bunker gear and ride the rig when you have to be 21 and second you get a pension after 20 years so how could he be working 40 years and 35 answer me thoes and ill answer your question

p.s. vouleenter at your local fire department than take the firefighter 1 and 2 test then you will take the medic class and there you go

 Before you start running off at the mouth attacking people read this about 3/4's down........   http://www.ufanyc.org/cms/contents/view/868#19.

Yes, you get a pension after 20 years but to get that pension you have to retire first. Working past your 20 years gives you a bigger pension. Guys come on this job and forget that they have been around so long that the department is telling them it's time for them to get out. In the civilian world most people can't wait for fridays to come and count down the days till the can retire. Here we can't wait to go back to work.

 Mandatory retirement in NYC is either 62 or 65 years old.  So as you can see if you went to the link 42 YEARS. 

Bunker gear is easy to acquire. And up to a few years ago ride alongs were permitted, and it was even easier to take in a run if your a family member.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: fdnyrules92 on September 29, 2008, 01:45:36 AM
Thank you for clearing that up. My dad loves this job thats why hes been on the job so long
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: manhattan on October 24, 2008, 12:35:14 AM
Can anyone post on here the actual Department Orders or other documents that define the fireground duties of Resource Unit Leader, Safety Officer, Lobby Control Unit and other multiple-alarm Chief Officer and company assignments?

Thanks.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Roofman4 on January 01, 2009, 08:02:51 PM
 ???

I've seen and read alot of the runs and workers statistics posted at numerous sites. The busiest companies every year change very little and have been busy for years. When it comes to fire duty city wide, what company catches the most First Due or First In fires?

If you care to take it a little farther...how about in each boro?


Thanks,
RM4
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: mchiefm on February 28, 2009, 07:24:32 AM
What does CFRD, and CIDS stand for.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: grumpy grizzly on February 28, 2009, 08:41:09 AM
CFR Certified First Responder. An engine is dispatched individually on medical emergencies. Also one is assigned on all 10-76 and 10-77 (high rise office or resedential) :)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: grumpy grizzly on February 28, 2009, 08:50:16 AM
CIDS Critical Information Dispatch System. Alerts responding via radio or MDT to dangerous or hazardous conditions not apparent at the front of the building. Conditions covered include hazardous chemicals, liquids and substances, structural hazards, heavy fire loading, truss buildings, handicapped individuals. Other conditions may be added as required. Information is gathered by units in their districts and submitted through channels. The dats is keyed to the street addres, the system will print reports for all CIDS buildings within 3 house numbers on the same side of the street as the basic address. :)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: QUEENS1985 on March 29, 2009, 02:52:49 PM
CIDS example
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: e203BCVFD on May 07, 2009, 01:45:04 PM
Hey, our printer actually works!!!!  ;D

Most of the abbreviations in the CIDS are easy to understand... STY is story, RF is roof, HAZ is hazard, MD is multiple dwelling, etc.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: NZFDNYBuff on September 22, 2009, 04:10:46 AM
Hey guys.

Just curious about what happens in NY if a fire goes above a fifth alarm? And has a five-alarm plus fire ever occurred in New York City?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: vbcapt on September 22, 2009, 12:19:28 PM
There have been many fires above a 5th alarm. In the late 70's there was a 10 alarm fire in Brooklyn at Knickerbocker Ave. Both WTC incidents went above a 5th alarm. In the mid 90's there was a 16 alarm fire in an old hotel. Staten Island had a recent brush fire that went to 8 alarms. That's just to name a few.

I do not believe the dispatch computers go to that level. One of the more knowledgeable buffs and/or Fire Alarm Dispatchers can answer that much better that I.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: manhattan on September 22, 2009, 01:29:15 PM
I don't know if the system is still in effect, but anything requiring response above the fifth alarm went to what was called a "Borough Call" or "Borough Alarm."  I heard a few years ago that this was changed and now responses above the fifth are numbered sequentially.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: MichaelS on September 22, 2009, 01:53:50 PM
Remember the 10th alarm Greenpoint fire in Brooklyn a couple of years back?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FD347 on September 22, 2009, 02:45:24 PM
There is no 6th or higher alarms in the CADS, we just special call the necessary units and call it by number.

The last time there was a borough call was 2/26/93. Prior to that was in the late 1970's. It's not done usually.

Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: NZFDNYBuff on September 22, 2009, 03:16:29 PM
There is no 6th or higher alarms in the CADS, we just special call the necessary units and call it by number.

The last time there was a borough call was 2/26/93. Prior to that was in the late 1970's. It's not done usually.

Thanks again for your help Frank, I appreciate it.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: mercurygrandmarquis1 on December 06, 2009, 08:37:47 PM
i have 2 questions
what are the second peices for ladders used for?
and
what are ems lsu units for?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: rdm258 on December 06, 2009, 09:00:20 PM
EMS LSU is the Logistics Support Unit. Responds to multi fire and most 10-32's(MCI's). It carries spine boards, and lots of bandages and BLS equipment. There are normally 5 up and running on a good day.

Ladder Co's in the City. Some have specialized duties. Such as Chemical Protective Clothing(CPC), SOC Support-used at Collapses and Tech Rescue's. Some did have the Highway Response Unit, TL170 had one for wrecks on the Belt, not sure if still used. Those are just some type of Co's that would have the second piece truck.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FDNY220122 on December 06, 2009, 10:24:01 PM
EMS LSU is the Logistics Support Unit. Responds to multi fire and most 10-32's(MCI's). It carries spine boards, and lots of bandages and BLS equipment. There are normally 5 up and running on a good day.

Ladder Co's in the City. Some have specialized duties. Such as Chemical Protective Clothing(CPC), SOC Support-used at Collapses and Tech Rescue's. Some did have the Highway Response Unit, TL170 had one for wrecks on the Belt, not sure if still used. Those are just some type of Co's that would have the second piece truck.

TL 170 still has a Highway Response rig with a set of extracation tools due to the wieght ristictions on the brigdes of the belt parkway. Also if I am not mistaken L 156 as one too.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: rdm258 on December 06, 2009, 11:02:49 PM
Would TL159 have one/did it? Think comes in the other direction on the Belt while 170 goes West?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: guitarman314 on December 06, 2009, 11:18:18 PM
EMS LSU is the Logistics Support Unit. Responds to multi fire and most 10-32's(MCI's). It carries spine boards, and lots of bandages and BLS equipment. There are normally 5 up and running on a good day.

Ladder Co's in the City. Some have specialized duties. Such as Chemical Protective Clothing(CPC), SOC Support-used at Collapses and Tech Rescue's. Some did have the Highway Response Unit, TL170 had one for wrecks on the Belt, not sure if still used. Those are just some type of Co's that would have the second piece truck.

TL 170 still has a Highway Response rig with a set of extracation tools due to the wieght ristictions on the brigdes of the belt parkway. Also if I am not mistaken L 156 as one too.
Ladder 159 is the other Brooklyn Belt Pkwy. area ladder co. with a Highway Response Unit
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: E-211 on August 18, 2010, 10:28:55 PM
Being an "old " fire Horse,.... I didn't know that they are moving up to UHF freq's.

Does anyone know what those new freq's are, and when they might do the  ???"change over" ??
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: johnd248 on August 18, 2010, 10:32:53 PM
I think you will find them in the Communications area of this fine site.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FDNY150 on August 20, 2010, 10:32:01 PM
www.radioreference.com (http://www.radioreference.com)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: E-211 on August 21, 2010, 04:46:48 PM
Thanks, I went to the Comm section and found them. What kind of scanner will be best to change over to to be able to monitor in the future??
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: HCO on August 21, 2010, 08:01:02 PM
E-211     You will need a scanner that has 6.25 kc steps in the 480 MHz range.  GRE has several desk and handheld models at reasonable prices.  Here's a link:  http://greamerica.com/scanners.html (http://greamerica.com/scanners.html)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: E-211 on August 21, 2010, 11:08:04 PM
Thanks for the info and link it will be very helpful ;)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: lifeguard91 on September 29, 2010, 06:09:26 PM
two questions. 1) what does it mean when the dispatcher says for example "Queens 57 signal box ####?" 2) what does "trucks are opening up" mean?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: guitarman314 on September 29, 2010, 06:12:25 PM
5-7 signal is a call for just one engine and one ladder.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FDNY150 on September 29, 2010, 06:24:27 PM
Trucks opening up means ventilation, entry, and search. Pulling ceilings, venting windows, looking for extension of fire.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: lifeguard91 on October 04, 2010, 01:38:23 PM
what is the job of the salvage truck?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Old dog on October 04, 2010, 01:41:24 PM
put plastic on all the broken windows
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: lifeguard91 on October 04, 2010, 01:46:01 PM
Thanks everyone :D
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Hurricanes298 on October 18, 2010, 11:33:51 PM
what do the 10-45 codes mean  like code 1,2,3,4  and then the tags   
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 811 on October 19, 2010, 04:30:31 AM
Now it goes from 1 (dead) to 4 "walking wounded" as if someone just coughed once from smoke - 4 levels of severity were meant to match EMS codes.

Back when FDNY had  only 3 sub-codes, it was: 1=dead, 2=life threatening/critical injury, 3=non life threatening. 

Sort of like ordering your steaks: 1=well done, 2=medium, or 3=rare.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: mikeindabronx on October 19, 2010, 05:44:37 PM
Black tag = code 1
Red     "         "   2
Yellow "         "   3
Green  "         "  4
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: johnd248 on November 12, 2010, 06:25:54 PM
Brooklyn currently has a fourth alarm operating at box 1289 for a fire at 613 5th Avenue, near 17th Street.  Units assigned are from Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens, and Bronx.  Question is: how often is there a fire with units from four boroughs?  Has there ever been an incident, aside from 9/11, when all five boroughs responded to one fire?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: MichaelS on November 12, 2010, 06:32:19 PM
Probably the 5th alarm Brush in SI today  ???
Or one of the other 5th alarms on SI - maybe the day they had the 5th & 6th.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: mikeindabronx on November 12, 2010, 06:36:38 PM
Don't forget the 2nd alarm in Brooklyn & the all hands in lower Manhattan at about the same time.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: MichaelS on November 12, 2010, 06:48:35 PM
Just did some digging on that day that SI had the 5th & 6th.

The 4th alarm assignment consisted of engines from Manhattan, Queens & Bronx, obviously SI & Brooklyn units were already there. How rare would that be - fire was @ 5th alarm (http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,6977.0.html (http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,6977.0.html))

Engs. 15 acting 238, 258, 90, 285 acting 168
E262 w/ IMT Unit
L3 acting 131, L128
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 69 METS on November 12, 2010, 06:52:29 PM
Brooklyn currently has a fourth alarm operating at box 1289 for a fire at 613 5th Avenue, near 17th Street.  Units assigned are from Brooklyn, Manhattan, Queens, and Bronx.  Question is: how often is there a fire with units from four boroughs?  Has there ever been an incident, aside from 9/11, when all five boroughs responded to one fire?

I don't know for sure John, but possibly the Hotel St George fire downtown Brooklyn in 1995. I was in R1, we responded as a second Rescue (R2 was already on the scene). R3 also responded. The fire in the residential high rise was eventually (I believe) made a separate fire to make things a little more manageable for the I.C..  
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Atlas on November 12, 2010, 07:29:55 PM
Back in 1962, in Staten Is there was a brush fire that destroyed over 100 homes - even NJ companies were on the scene.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: johnd248 on November 12, 2010, 07:31:12 PM
Thanks, Garrett.  Now that I think about it, I am sure the Hotel St. George fire fits the bill.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: vbcapt on November 12, 2010, 07:34:38 PM
Here's the rundown from Frank's site:

77 - 55+ - 461 51 Clark St.

0333 BOX TRANSMITTED    E224 E207 E226 L118 L110 BC31
0344 10-75             E204 BC35 SQ01
0356 7-5                L101 DC06 RS02
0401 S/C                L119
0403 2-2                E205 E219 E211 E279 L131 BC57
                            E210 MW01 E009 ST01 E284 ST03                     
                            FC01
0405 S/C                L105
0406 3-3                E239 E209 E221 E216 L108 MK01 AM02 TS01
0408 S/C                E220 BC32 BC01 (BC01 replaces BC57,OOS)
0411 S/C                L009
0411 4-4                E202 E235 E280 E230 L105 DC01
0416 S/C                SB02
0419 5-5                E212 E006 E004 E010 L015
0420 S/C                DC07
0424 S/C                RS01
0434 S/C                L102
0437 S/C                BC38
0445 S/C                RS03 L104 L132
0451 S/C                BC06 BC44
0506 S/C                E005 E229 E015 L146 L122 BC57
0519 S/C                E217 E055 E238 L035
0528 S/C                E214 E240 E249 L018 L005
0650 PROBABLY WILL HOLD
0705 UNDER CONTROL


Box 77 - 22 - 462 80 Pineapple St.

0449 BOX TRANSMITTED    E222 E281 E278 L001 L149 BC48
0449 2-2                E227 E332 E252 E021 E330 L147
                        L012 L010
0622 S/C                E245
0623 S/C                BC45
0650 PROBABLY WILL HOLD
0709 UNDER CONTROL


Box 77 - 33 - 478 111 Hicks St.

0504 BOX TRANSMITTED    E283 E242 E318 L176 L114 BC45
0507 S/C                BC04
0509 S/C                BC44
0510 2-2                E258 E033 E246 E237 E231 L106 L008 L006
0513 S/C                DC05
0516 S/C                RS05
0522 3-3                E293 E054 E024 E028 L147 BC21 BC28
0559 S/C                L138 L127 L158 L135
0601 S/C                E167 E163 E026
0640 S/C                BC50 BC42
0641 S/C                L103 L111 L043
0650 PROBABLY WILL HOLD
0705 UNDER CONTROL
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Hurricanes298 on November 22, 2010, 11:53:36 AM
what a normal collapse assignment responce
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Hurricanes298 on February 06, 2011, 09:00:49 PM
One of the guys at the fire house here asked me to ask on here what  is the job of the battalion chiefs driver at the fire scene
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: vbcapt on February 06, 2011, 09:18:06 PM
Assist with radio transmissions, accountability, recon etc...

Anyone else, please add on or correct me if necessary
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Hurricanes298 on February 06, 2011, 09:22:04 PM
Thanks Vcapt
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: anesti on February 06, 2011, 09:30:33 PM
I dont know if they still do it,but what is educational day??
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Hurricanes298 on February 06, 2011, 09:33:03 PM
i spelled every thing correct  made sence to me  :D
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 68jk09 on February 06, 2011, 09:57:36 PM
In the FDNY.... the title used to be "Chief s Aide".......in more recent years it is referred to as "BN Firefighter"........it is a very busy & responsible position.....At a job after driving the BN rig to the scene ... the BN FF gathers valuable info for transmission to the Disp & incoming units....he relays to the Disp. ...(word for word) .....progress reports dictated to him by the Chief over the HandyTalkie.....he relays  orders (from the Chief ) to incoming units verbally as they arrive if the Chief is occupied elswhere on the fireground.....at an ALL HANDS or Multiple he will fully gear up & accompany his Chief in whatever area of the bldg the Incident Commander has assigned them...also at a Multiple where a Command Channel has been activated on the H.T. he will be on the Tactical Channel & the Chief will be on the Command Channel monitoring transmissions......at a box the 1st due BN FF must also get names & badge #s  of any other agencies at the scene as well as names of occupants ...affected apt #s ...bldg address ...the Co #s of all units operating & where they operated & what they did ...names of injured MEMBERS & who treated them ..etc ...etc.......THEN when he gets back to quarters his work starts all over again adjusting the manpower if any FFs were injured ....then......compiling all the info & entering it in the National Fire Incident reporting System  (NYFIRS).......aside from all this he compiles daily manpower rosters & projected rosters for the next 3 days  for all the units in his BN & keeps them updated all tour long. ......the ENG ECCs & LAD CHAUFS  get a few extra cents  for driving the rig .....the BN FF gets nothing extra for his work.....just the RESPECT of the Chief.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 68jk09 on February 06, 2011, 10:03:08 PM
Education Day is when selected Companies go to the Fire Academy (Rock) & are given classes on relevant or new info &/or techniques.....it is done on a rotating basis & the Unit is Out Of service for Fire Duty for the tour.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: CFDMarshal on February 07, 2011, 09:58:55 AM
Hey Chief, just wondering, what happened to your aide after you retired? Did you keep the same aide or were they platooned?

Thanks, Elwood
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 68jk09 on February 07, 2011, 11:48:16 AM
Generally you have the same BN*FF w/ the same group # as you so generally you always work together.....the Chief gets to pick his FF......my long time FF who was my partner for 9 of the 10 years that i spent there had been  a FF in LAD*138 for 22 years before coming to the BN....He suffered a heart ailment & was retired about a year before i was ......a great guy & friend.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Hurricanes298 on February 10, 2011, 10:35:37 AM
thanks for the help
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: lfdeng37 on March 21, 2011, 09:47:16 PM
I have been doing some research on depts history on man power and was wondering the highest number of men have been on the job in fdny and how many engines and ladders  were there at that time
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 811 on March 22, 2011, 06:10:15 AM

Class 3 alarms are those received from a central station monitoring company. I don't know how or why we started using this term but it dates back at least 35 years, probably longer.


In telegraph transmission, the numeral 3 preceded the box number which was followed by the "terminal", or final number(s) in series which defined the particular building or location, as well as the type of alarm device: Manual, automatic, valve.

This was transmitted in the format 3-1082-1. 

Prior to use of ERS boxes c1970, All FDNY supervised Class 3's were identified and transmitted as above. With ERS the signal transmitted was limited to four digits, thus all FDNY Class 3 locations were converted to 8000 series box numbers. 

Private fire alarm services like ADT that install their systems legitimately with FDNY approval and inspection were required to be granted a Class 3 terminal number and printed assignment cards defining it were distributed; but in these days of non-enforcement and irresponsibility such companies stopped that practice and began telephoning the alarms to the Dispatchers with an "unassigned" alarm location with the address only resulting in less information than previously provided, and frequent incorrect addresses.  In many cases the Dispatcher would ask the private fire alarm operator what type of alarm (device) it was; frequently the answer was "a FIRE alarm", Duh? 

Complying with codes all legitimate private fire alarm companies were required to have at least two independent means of transmitting their alarms to the FDNY Dispatchers.  This usually consisted of a dedicated telegraph circuit (similar to a street alarm box circuit)  where they could transmit their signals to FDNY as well as a dedicated direct telephone line to our Central Offices.

The FDNY telegraph system had multiple series of special signals that could be transmitted other than fire alarms.  Some examples were orders for companies to telephone Dispatcher, Units going in or OOS, stopping for verbal alarms, bridges or ferry services OOS or back in, air raid alert and all clear signals since in those days many firehouses controlled the local "air raid" sirens.

Where the designations for Class E or J type building alarms came from is for someone else to answer. Maybe from the Local Laws that defined such classes of buildings.


Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: johnd248 on March 22, 2011, 09:04:34 AM
The aforementioned box (signal) 3-1082-1 was the box assigned to the Brooklyn CO.  There was an actual box with that number inside the CO.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: LoadingUptheBox on December 09, 2011, 08:30:21 PM
Great post and information. I thought I would offer a couple suggestions for the "Fire Operations" Section with some preliminary descriptions for the list. I'm sure the pro's out their will correct my mistakes  :D:

- Add description of "mixer-off message" and when its used (a transmission from a unit in the field which the dispatcher, upon his approval, turns off the repeaters across the city, so to provide sensitive information to the dispatcher)
 
- Add description of the various ride positions of an engine company and a ladder company:

Engine: Officer, Chauffeur, Nozzle Man, Control Man, Back-up, Door Man
Ladder: Officer, Chauffeur, Irons Man, Can Man, Outside Vent Man, and Roof Man  (Inside team are the Officer, Irons, and Can man while The outside team are the OV, Roof, and possibly the chauffeur)

- Add Mention of the "Progress Report": what it is, what it is comprised of, who reports it, and when.  As I understand it, a Progress Report is a situation report provided by the incident commander to the borough dispatcher.  The Progress Report is usually provided at 10-75, 10-76, 10-77 workers or higher or other extraordinary incidents (10-80s for example). [Note Most boxes' progress report can also simply be the final disposition of a box "where using one engine and two trucks for a 10-26 (food on the stove), All units will mark up when available".] 

The Chief's Aide usually communicates the Progress Report to the dispatcher unless Field Comm is operating.  It contains:

1) The Size-Up (as applicable): "Fire building is 6-story, 100'x100' OMD";

2) The exposures (adjoining structures, streets, etc) in a clockwise rotation starting with the front of the structure "Exposure 1 is the street, Exposure 2 is a similar attached, Exposure 3 is unknown, Exposure 4 is an alley";

3) Summary of operations: e.g. "Fire is on the third floor showing through two windows, One line stretched and in operation, second line being stretched, trucks are opening up,  searches negative",

4) Current status: either "Doubtful" which is truncated for "Doubtful will hold with assigned resources" or "Probably will Hold" which tells the dispatcher the incident can be management with the resources/units currently assigned or "Under Control" which is self-explanatory.   Another response is "All hands Working (or Operating)" which tells the dispatcher several things: anticipate a second request for resources "extra engine and truck" or for another alarm, or no currently assigned-units could be released for another box nearby.  Progress Reports are provided at regular intervals (about every 15-20 minutes).

Please correct or adjust as necessary.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: fdny4rv on May 07, 2012, 05:58:05 PM
what do the letters AFID stand for




Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: grumpy grizzly on May 07, 2012, 06:20:39 PM
Apparatus Field Inspection Day.  GG
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: fdny4rv on May 07, 2012, 06:33:53 PM
Thank you grumpy grizzly
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Bulldog on May 07, 2012, 06:42:28 PM
what do the letters AFID stand for
Apparatus Field Inspection Duty
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: grumpy grizzly on May 07, 2012, 07:10:22 PM
I think AFID is now Building Inspection Safety Progtam. GG
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FD347 on May 08, 2012, 01:57:06 PM
For the PM portion it was AFRD, Reinspection, but they dropped that in the late 80's.

And not to show my age but there also was a sign hung from the side of the rig for the unknowing public that explained that they were still available while on AFID.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: sandero on August 21, 2012, 10:35:17 PM
I visited the NYC Fire Museum last month, and I really enjoyed it.
One of the items on display was a "Bresnan Distributor".
How does this device work, and when is it normally used?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: sandero on August 21, 2012, 10:39:07 PM
I have a question about standard bunker gear that FDNY firefighters use as compared with bunker gear used by members of other departments.
It seems that FDNY gear is black with lime & silver conspicuity stripes.
It seems that many other departments use brown gear.
Do any FDNY members wear brown bunker gear?
Is there any functional difference between brown and black gear?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FDNY150 on August 22, 2012, 12:48:19 AM
No difference, just a different dye used in the fabric. The Bresnan Distributor was used for basement fires. Don't believe it's been used in years.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 811 on August 22, 2012, 05:07:54 AM
I visited the NYC Fire Museum last month, and I really enjoyed it.
One of the items on display was a "Bresnan Distributor".
How does this device work, and when is it normally used?

Bresnan distributor works on the same principle as a lawn sprinkler.  Orifices are aligned so together they force the head to revolve in the same direction (similiar to the ancient Hero's Aeolipile - look it up).  The typical 2 1/2" Bresnan had 9 orifices and its total output was equal to a 1.78" nozzle tip.  It's range was limited and was usually intended for use in cellar or other inaccessible fires.

FDNY also used some other larger distributors or nozzles for underpier access that had greater capacity and range.

Illustration is from 1961 edition of the  Fire Chief's Handbook.

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/alvin201/bresnandistributor.jpg)

(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/alvin201/0013distributorLR.jpg)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 811 on August 22, 2012, 05:29:54 AM
(http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i16/alvin201/0088distributor.jpg)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FDNY150 on August 22, 2012, 12:06:02 PM
I remember seeing a brush truck with one of those on the tailboard. They used it as a sprinkler for putting out brush fires.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: R1SmokeEater on August 22, 2012, 01:50:52 PM
No difference, just a different dye used in the fabric. The Bresnan Distributor was used for basement fires. Don't believe it's been used in years.

I actually used the Bresnan once (so far) in my career, and it worked (great) as it was designed!!!
A great tool in the box,to get the job done when warranted!
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: memory master on August 22, 2012, 02:59:00 PM
I have a question about standard bunker gear that FDNY firefighters use as compared with bunker gear used by members of other departments.
It seems that FDNY gear is black with lime & silver conspicuity stripes.
It seems that many other departments use brown gear.
Do any FDNY members wear brown bunker gear?
Is there any functional difference between brown and black gear?

FDNY EMS wears the brown gear with yellow striping and lettering.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: mac8146 on August 22, 2012, 06:13:25 PM
The distributor has been used recently by FDNY in conjunction with ConEd, use at manholes to move the CO around to minimize explosive range, actually draws CO out of manhole into air to alleviate the possibility of CO explosion in another manhole or in a basement, usually place a shut off 1 length back and attach distributor an place in hole and let it do its thing.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: fdny1075k on August 22, 2012, 06:21:54 PM
I have a question about standard bunker gear that FDNY firefighters use as compared with bunker gear used by members of other departments.
It seems that FDNY gear is black with lime & silver conspicuity stripes.
It seems that many other departments use brown gear.
Do any FDNY members wear brown bunker gear?
Is there any functional difference between brown and black gear?
Many fire departments across the U.S., such as the FDNY, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, Seattle, San Francisco, and Baltimore use the black gear, as do hundreds of other smaller fire departments. As was said before, the tan gear is used by FDNY EMS. There is no real difference in the two types of gear(black and tan), other than the color. Pretty much every fire department in the U.S. use one color or the other. The style of reflective stripes(yellow, silver, yellow) on the gear is pretty much standard issue for most fire departments. Nowadays, it's rare to see new turnout gear with large single yellow reflective stripes.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: grumpy grizzly on August 22, 2012, 06:31:16 PM
When my son was at Al-Asad in Iraq as a contract firefighter with WSI they had brown/tan turnout gear. They could putchase their own helmet though, hr brought a Cairns. GG :) :) ;D ;D :D :D
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: sandero on August 22, 2012, 08:24:03 PM
Thanks for your replies, guys!!!
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: gr3enfly on November 02, 2012, 08:29:40 PM
Hello all !

Sorry for my bad english, but I speak french...

First, thanks to the Nycfire.net team to approved my account.

I have a great interest for the FDNY, since one year, about, and I would like to ask some questions about this department.

I just spoke with a member by PM and it advice me to ask my questions on the forum. I've got some answers, but I ask, though, few answered questions, if someone would even more details.  If I do not have the answer to all, it is not a problem, just some of it would be very cool !!!

My questions focused on the "EMS" and the "Fire" divison.

In advance, I thank you very much, for your help.

1. I know that the "ems haz-tac battalion" has these vehicles : HT-1, HT-2, HTB, HTCU. Right ?
- Could you confirm me that the EMS Haz-Tac Battalion is : ems 849 haz tac battalion (http://www.flickr.com/photos/152431/5728340567/#) The FDNY has just one ?
- Could you tell me what is the HTCU ? Because I never heard of this. Could you tell me the purpose of this vehicle, and do you have any photos ? Maybe if I had the meanings of the letters, I will understand...
- Could you confirme me that the HT-1 and HT-2 are : http://www.10-75.net/apparatus/ny/nyc/fdny/haztac.htm (http://www.10-75.net/apparatus/ny/nyc/fdny/haztac.htm) Do you have just two ? It's a "haz-tac ambulances" support ?
- Could you confirm me that you have 35 or 36 haz-tac ambulances, and 10 rescue medics ambulances ? I ask this because an over person tell me that the FDNY has... 145 haz-tac ambulances, and this number seems me... exagered.

2. There are two model of "EMS Division" (here, Division 5 for exemple)
1. E168s FDNY EMS Operations Division 5 Trucks, Rossville, Staten Island, New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/2738596731/#) (like the Haz-Mat Tech Unit)
2. FDNY EMS Division 5 Car (http://www.flickr.com/photos/uberzombie/489311021/#) (old) and EMS22s FDNY Chevy Impala EMS Division 2 Car, Seaview Hospital, Staten Island, New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/5890868689/#) (new).

For the second, I guess that the old is not longer in service, and the new replace him.
But for the first vehicle, what is the difference between the other modele ? These vehicles are still in service ? What tools can be found inside this vehicle ?
In each division, we find theses 2 types of Division ("battalion" model and "HMTU" model), and I never learned the difference.

3. Could you tell me the purpose of this vehicle ? Manhattan, New York - USA (http://www.flickr.com/photos/micsworld/7060819851/#) I don't thing that's a EMS vehicle. That is the same of the HMTU ? (4 engines company, all squads company, rescue 5) ? Because all firehouses which quartered an HMTU are not this model of truck, they are an another model (like EMS Division, photo 1). Could you tell me where are quartered theses vehicles, and the usefulness, please ?

4. The know that the FDNY has no surgeon, but medical doctors. Someone has any photos of the medical doctor cars, in the HQ ?

5. I know that the "conveyor pod" is a 23-foot container used to store and transport two 20-foot electric-powered conveyor belts. But which situation is it use ? I do not see what can be an conveyor belt (in the utility for firefighters). Do you have any photo of this (not the pod, but the tool) ?

6. In 2010, the FDNY is launching the "Organ Preservation Unit", in Manhattan. To pick up organs in bereaved families. Is that this project is still valid, or he was disbanded ?

7. The FDNY has some ambulances for
- obese patient ? Is that ambulances already carrying adaptable stretchers ?
- néo-natal (baby born) ?

If not, in each case, an special ambulance from the hospital will be sent ?

8. The 2 Highway Response Unit all still in service ? Some peoples tell me one is disbanded, others tell me two are in still in service.

9. I think that this truck is send in case of major-incident... http://www.fdnytrucks.com/images/specialunits/ems/FDNYEMS590.jpg (http://www.fdnytrucks.com/images/specialunits/ems/FDNYEMS590.jpg) He transport advanced medical post and other medical tool. We find just one in New York ?

10. Could you tell me how many Haz-Mat RTV vehicle in New York ? Like this : FDNY Haz-Mat Kubota RTV Utility Vehicle, City Hall Area, New York City (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jag9889/6848425915/#)

11. Is the Marine Companies has a chief vehicle like the "battalion chief", "EMS Supervisor", "haz-tac officer" ? If yes, how many "marine battalion" cars we find in New York ? I know we find a few "marine division" ford pick-up, and some "marine division" cushman moto.

12. I know there are two CTV in New York, but in videos, I always just see the 2nd in action. The CTV 1 (Ford truck) is still in service ?

13. About "reserve" engines and truck engines, could you confirme me that they are quartered in the few firehouses, next to other rigs ? This is crazy, after months of research, I thought I was "specialist" on the subject, and I did not even know that reserve engines were quartered in the firehouse ! I count 32 reserve engines/ladder companies, but I don't know if this number is right http://nycfire.net/fdny/apparatus/reserve (http://nycfire.net/fdny/apparatus/reserve) When these reserve unit can put in-service ?

14. On this unit chart (http://www.ufoa.org/linkfiles/file00000255.pdf (http://www.ufoa.org/linkfiles/file00000255.pdf)), you will see, in orange frame, the number of "decon engines", there are lot in the city. But after the "hat-mat tech unit",  SSL and CPC, I don't know what is the "decon engine"... These engines has a secon vehicle for the decon ? (like the HMTU, SSL, CPC) ? On YouTube, Google, Flickr, and other, I don't find any information about this... Same for the "ice & cold water rescue", framed light blue, but for this, I think they are not second vehicle, and the only caracteristic is the lifebuoy...

15. Do you have any photos of the "PPE Replacement Facility" quartered at SOC ?

16. Could you tell me how many investigations cars we find in the FDNY ? Like the 13 OFI of the Chicago Fire Department. I know just one "fire scene unit", but I think it should certainly be other vehicles investigations, when I see the number of resolved inquiries.

In advance, thanks for your help.

NB : again, sorry for my bad english. I try to speak as well as possible. I know I certainly write big mistakes...

Thanks a lot for your replies.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: anesti on November 02, 2012, 08:41:47 PM
13. About "reserve" engines and truck engines, could you confirme me that they are quartered in the few firehouses, next to other rigs ? This is crazy, after months of research, I thought I was "specialist" on the subject, and I did not even know that reserve engines were quartered in the firehouse ! I count 32 reserve engines/ladder companies, but I don't know if this number is right http://nycfire.net/fdny/apparatus/reserve (http://nycfire.net/fdny/apparatus/reserve) When these reserve unit can put in-service ?


Reserves are in different fire houses usually behind the frontline unit or in lots next to the firehouses., and can be put into service like monday with the Hurricane usually with off duty members.



9. I think that this truck is send in case of major-incident... http://www.fdnytrucks.com/images/specialunits/ems/FDNYEMS590.jpg (http://www.fdnytrucks.com/images/specialunits/ems/FDNYEMS590.jpg) He transport advanced medical post and other medical tool. We find just one in New York ?

I'm sure someone will correct me but i think that is the weapon of mass destruction truck and carries antidotes.


4. The know that the FDNY has no surgeon, but medical doctors. Someone has any photos of the medical doctor cars, in the HQ ?


I may have one, I will look for it. They just usually use hand me downs like Car 32 is using a Ford Excursion.



14. On this unit chart (http://www.ufoa.org/linkfiles/file00000255.pdf (http://www.ufoa.org/linkfiles/file00000255.pdf)), you will see, in orange frame, the number of "decon engines", there are lot in the city. But after the "hat-mat tech unit",  SSL and CPC, I don't know what is the "decon engine"... These engines has a secon vehicle for the decon ? (like the HMTU, SSL, CPC) ? On YouTube, Google, Flickr, and other, I don't find any information about this... Same for the "ice & cold water rescue", framed light blue, but for this, I think they are not second vehicle, and the only caracteristic is the lifebuoy...

Ice and cold water rescue trucks just carry extra equipment on the truck. Again I may not be %100 right.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: anesti on November 02, 2012, 10:13:18 PM
http://anesti.smugmug.com/Fdny/EMS/26306704_NvZZhw# (http://anesti.smugmug.com/Fdny/EMS/26306704_NvZZhw#)!i=2191551847&k=rbxHgQC


pic I have of the Medical car.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: gr3enfly on November 04, 2012, 07:03:45 AM
@Anesti, thanks a lot for your replies. About "reserve" vehicles, excepted engines and trucks, we find another reserve vehicle in the firehouses (rescue, squad, ambulances at ems station ...) ? Or theses vehicles are just "spare", at SHOPS ? I refer specifically to the Rescue 6 which, apparently, is quartered at Ladder 20, but i'm not sure.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: wake96 on November 04, 2012, 07:28:29 AM
Rescue 6 was not in Ladder 20 firehouse this summer. There were two spare rigs : Engine 503, Ladder 705.



gr3enfly, si jamais je parle aussi français, message privé  ;D
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Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: anesti on November 04, 2012, 07:43:30 AM
Rescue 6 or 7 maybe be at Squad 270. Again spares are kept in lots and one other building I forget where they are.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: mercurygrandmarquis1 on November 04, 2012, 10:58:34 AM
Rescue 6 or 7 maybe be at Squad 270. Again spares are kept in lots and one other building I forget where they are.

Your thinking about the shops annex.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: johnd248 on November 04, 2012, 12:44:41 PM
The Shops annex is on Paidge Avenue in the Greenpoint Section of Brooklyn.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: gr3enfly on December 04, 2012, 11:05:52 AM
Hello all,

I had find a new response to few my previous questions. I would like to ask a few other questions, if you allow.

* Sunday, there are two 2nd alarm fire  in Brooklyn, near one of the other. This brings me this question : how many "safety batallion" car has FDNY ? I know that the "safety battalion" is in Brooklyn... So I guess he quartered at the Metrotech Headquarters, but how many apparatus (GMC, Ford, ...) we find in the "safety battalion", to respond at several fires at the same time ?

* I know the HTCU is, maybe, an Hat-Tac Condition Officer, with Haz-Mat training. Someone could confirme this ?

* How many "OEM physician" and "OMA physician" car's are quartered in the Metrotech Center ? I knowledge just one, but just to be sure.

* Which vehicles/unit has a "jump bag", for suicidal people, and jumpers in case of fire ?

* I know the FDNY has 174 fire marshal. Could you tell me how many "fire marshal" apparatus / car's we find in the department, in addition to the single fire scene unit ?

* In case of transport of obese patient, I know the firefighters help the EMT/paramedic to loading obese patient in the ambulance. I know too the FDNY don't have special ambulance for this. So, my question is : the FDNY ambulances has special stretcher for obese patient ? In Belgium, our normal ambulances have only a stretcher can loading maximum  160 kg (352 pounds). For obese patient, we have a special ambulances with specific stretcher (model strycker or ferno), she's cover an large area.

Thanks a lot, in advance.

Have a good day.

Gr3enfly
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: XPFD3 on December 23, 2012, 11:25:39 AM
I know that each Division and Battalion have a Firefighter assigned as the Aide to the Chief.  How does it work with the Command Chief?  Are there specific Firefighters assigned as the Aide to the Command Chief or do the individual Chief's bring a Firefighter with them when it is their turn in the rotation?  Thanks!
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: lifeguard91 on January 10, 2013, 02:11:51 PM
Quick question: Where does the term "Take a mark, remain in service" Come from?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 68jk09 on January 10, 2013, 06:39:22 PM
It means your services are not required at a box but you still have to take mark for the run on return to your quarters.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: lifeguard91 on January 10, 2013, 08:48:29 PM
thank you 68jk09. when you say take mark for the run, is that a mark on a form or does that go back to before the MDT?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 68jk09 on January 10, 2013, 10:38:15 PM
The mark is taken back in qtrs afterward for record keeping purposes on a form....you use the MDT to enter your 10-8 status.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: lifeguard91 on January 13, 2013, 06:48:35 PM
Thank you very much :)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Highroller85 on January 14, 2013, 03:35:35 PM
What does the letter "M" stand for in registration numbers? For example on a Ford Battalion (FM03001) I know the first letter means Ford or on a GMC Battalion (GM09001) G stands for GMC but what is the M?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: raybrag on January 14, 2013, 04:08:07 PM
I'm guessing it stands for "Miscellaneous", or something like that.  The reason I say this is because of the various rigs that carry that designation, including:

Battalion Chief's Rigs
Thawing Units
TSU's
RAC's
Field Comm
HazMat Tenders (assigned to Squads)
Squads (!!!!!!!)  :o :o
BFUs

and more . . .
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: memory master on January 14, 2013, 04:20:29 PM
The FM03001 is the shops registry number.....FM is Ford Motors, 03 means a 2003 model year and the 001 is #1 in a series of however many they bought that year, i.e. FM03001 possibly up to FM03120 etc.

SP03001 would be a 2003 Seagrave pumper, #1 in a series of however many they bought

All FDNY rigs have a "shop registry" number

Hope that helps, if I can be of any further assistance let me know
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: raybrag on January 14, 2013, 05:23:27 PM
Memory Master:

His question was on the meaning of the "M" in FM03001.  It's the unit type designator.  For example:

P = pumper
L = ladder
T = tower ladder
R = rescue
H = hazmat
M = ? ? ? ? ? ? ?

As I said in my earlier post, I think it means "Miscellaneous" or something similar.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: memory master on January 14, 2013, 06:29:13 PM
The "M" in this instance is for Motors as it is an SUV. If it were FS03001 it would be a Ford sedan. The old Chevy Caprices would have been ex: GS03018. The Chevy 2500 suburbans were GM99137. I hope that helps and sorry for the confusion.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: guitarman314 on January 14, 2013, 06:56:38 PM
In the past there were extra letters on some "new at the time" apparatus like the first dual axle tower ladders and rearmounts had the letter "D" at the end, eg: MT8203T or SL8414D
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: HCO on January 14, 2013, 08:12:22 PM
The second letter on FDNY registration numbers stands for the type of rig and NOT Motors, such as Ford Motors. M is used for Miscellaneous and includes SUVs, Brush Fire Units, Field Comms, HazMat tenders, Mask Service Units, Purple K Units, RAC Units, Tactical Support Units, SOC Compressor, Thawing Units, etc.
 
The first letter in the designation stands for the manufacturer. Mack, when it was still building vehicles for FDNY was the prominent M, such as MP for Mack pumper, MT for Mack tower ladder. There are still several MFs, which are the Mack pumpers that are now retrofitted as Foam Carriers.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Highroller85 on January 15, 2013, 05:55:15 AM
Thanks for the info.

I have two more questions . If the first letter is the manufacturer (Seagrave, Ferrara, Ford etc.) what about these vehicles:

1, A "Press Office” Chevrolet Impala has a reg. number with GS0902x http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2639/3760092907_7818f9fc91_z.jpg (http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2639/3760092907_7818f9fc91_z.jpg) . As memory master said the S stands for sedan, thats clear, but why it is GS instead of CS (Chevrolet Sedan)?  And its the same for the old Chevy Suburban Battalions, they are GM instead of CM.

2, I know that the "Ceremonial Unit” has a Freightliner Sprinter with a registration number #CM10004. It starts with C but why not with F=Freightliner? Or if the C stands for "Ceremonial” why it isn’t FC10004 - Fregihtliner Ceremonial 2010 #4?


Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: MJ101 on April 29, 2013, 09:52:51 AM
Firstly I have to thank Catry for posting such an informative guide which answers most questions you could ever hope to have! However I do have a few more of my own!

1. Regarding the airport crash boxes, why do they mandate an automatic second alarm? If the aircraft lands or crashes on the airport property then the airport fire service should, by law, have enough apparatus to deal with any such incident involving the largest aircraft that can land there, and if it crashes outside of the airport (like the Hudson crash landing) then a different box would be transmitted. On a similar note, do these boxes being transmitted also mandate a similar response from EMS, and if a plane crashes on the runway would this still require a 10-60? Also, does anyone have any figures on how many times a year these boxes get transmitted?

2. If the 10-60 and a second alarm are both transmitted, do both field comm. trucks get dispatched or just the one? If this applies to any other special unit that would be called under two separate signals and both are transmitted, do more than one of that unit respond or just the one?

3. If the ladder trucks carry Hurst tools or other cutting equipment, why does the Rescue need to be special called when someone is pinned in a car crash?

4. Do any engines carry a small quantity of foam in addition to water, like some European engines do, or in the event of foam being required does a 10-86 always have to be transmitted?

5. Why does the FDNY respond to wash down oil slicks and such in the road? Surely this would be a job for the sanitation or public works departments as long as there is no fire or crash.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 68jk09 on April 29, 2013, 10:19:00 AM
My answers.....1-PAPD who mans the Fire equipment on the airport grounds (for now ) has limited manpower & limited foam & no provision to set up a water relay w/o FDNY just a rapid initial attempt to knockdown the fire w/on board supplies. ....also no Aerial or TL to access the fuselage.........2- 10-60 is not used in connection w/a crash box like 269 at JFK or 37 at LAG since the assignment is very large already.....3-Rescue carries much, much more specialized equiptment that may be needed....4- ENGs normally carry only three 5 gallon containers of foam.......5- if FD did not respond who would determine where the slick came from ?  most times it would be from an accident that would have other issues to address also....the FD response is within minutes ...any other agency might take hours.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: sandero on August 07, 2013, 07:56:25 PM
In photos of the pump panels of FDNY HP engines, there appear to be 3 large master gauges; why 3 instead of 2?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 116ff60 on August 08, 2013, 09:42:39 AM
High pressure engines have 3 stage pumps. The third gauge is used when the engine is being used for high pressure pumping at high rise fires.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: sandero on August 08, 2013, 02:33:23 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: fdny4rv on January 05, 2014, 06:48:17 PM
At a high rise fire is the fast truck in the building or on the street?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 68jk09 on January 05, 2014, 07:10:48 PM
In the bldg but below the Fire floor.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: fdny4rv on January 05, 2014, 07:13:30 PM
Thank you 68jk09.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: gabesdad09 on April 09, 2014, 11:47:54 PM
Question for the group...At the Queens overturned car incident at Box #7603 in Steinway Creek, I heard Car 13B call enroute....All of the listings that I have read (Operational Reference, this site, etc...) say that 13B is the Deputy Assistant Chief of Fire Prevention.  What would his purpose be for responding to incidents such as this as well as others?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 68jk09 on April 10, 2014, 12:35:46 AM
All Staff Chiefs regardless of regular assignment take a turn as the Citywide Tour Commander during night hrs & on weekends.....during regular hrs the Boro Commander of the particular boro responds.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: gabesdad09 on April 11, 2014, 12:04:56 AM
Thanks....
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: HCO on July 20, 2014, 12:11:54 PM
Eight engines, replacing the six former Field Comm Support Units, work with the Resource Unit Leader and assist the Incident Commander in planning and implementing the communications plan at major incidents. They carry 400 and 800 mHz radios, and an enhanced post radio i.e. one with a console used with cable reels to enable operation of the remote radio from a street level command post.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: fdny1075k on July 20, 2014, 02:02:56 PM
Eight engines, replacing the six former Field Comm Support Units, work with the Resource Unit Leader and assist the Incident Commander in planning and implementing the communications plan at major incidents. They carry 400 and 800 mHz radios, and an enhanced post radio i.e. one with a console used with cable reels to enable operation of the remote radio from a street level command post.
I believe 7 Engine in Lower Manhattan is one of these Communications Units, but which companies are the other seven?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on July 20, 2014, 02:40:55 PM
Eight engines, replacing the six former Field Comm Support Units, work with the Resource Unit Leader and assist the Incident Commander in planning and implementing the communications plan at major incidents. They carry 400 and 800 mHz radios, and an enhanced post radio i.e. one with a console used with cable reels to enable operation of the remote radio from a street level command post.
I believe 7 Engine in Lower Manhattan is one of these Communications Units, but which companies are the other seven?

Think 35 & 279
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: HCO on July 20, 2014, 03:02:26 PM
Man - E-7, E-35; Bnx - E-46; Bkn - E-246, E-279, E-332; Qns - E-263, E-303.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: fdny1075k on July 20, 2014, 03:27:40 PM
Thanks fellas.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 116ff60 on July 22, 2014, 06:27:22 PM
What do these companies do at a fire scene?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: raybrag on July 22, 2014, 08:41:40 PM
work with the Resource Unit Leader and assist the Incident Commander in planning and implementing the communications plan at major incidents. They carry 400 and 800 mHz radios, and an enhanced post radio i.e. one with a console used with cable reels to enable operation of the remote radio from a street level command post.

 ::)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: fdny1075k on July 29, 2014, 06:38:54 PM
Arent ladders 17 in the Bronx and 124 111 and 157 cpc units. They arent listed here http://nycfire.net/fdny/hazmat/cpc (http://nycfire.net/fdny/hazmat/cpc)
They are listed as CPC Trucks on the FDNY Unit Location Chart from 2009: http://www.ufoa.org/linkfiles/file00000255.pdf (http://www.ufoa.org/linkfiles/file00000255.pdf)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: diablo_fire on December 06, 2014, 12:38:03 AM
Back in 1962, in Staten Is there was a brush fire that destroyed over 100 homes - even NJ companies were on the scene.

Is there a thread on this fire?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: memory master on December 06, 2014, 07:03:51 AM
I'm not sure of a "thread." However, a 1962 issue of WNYF carried a several page article regarding this fire.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: diablo_fire on December 06, 2014, 09:32:06 AM
I'm not sure of a "thread." However, a 1962 issue of WNYF carried a several page article regarding this fire.

Thank you i will have to see if i can find it.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: thefirefreak911 on February 26, 2015, 03:35:01 AM
Does someone know why collapse rescue1 moved from ladder 25 to tower ladder 14?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on March 02, 2015, 11:11:05 PM
I think its because of renovation of Ladder 25's quarters
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Chief321 on March 03, 2015, 08:17:03 AM
The Collapse is at Engine 91 not Ladder 14.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: thefirefreak911 on March 08, 2015, 03:34:36 AM
A collapse must be with a ladder company because it is a rescue company and engine ff aren't trained for rescue work
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Chief321 on March 08, 2015, 07:11:50 AM
I was just at Engine 91 and it was in the bay behind the RAC unit.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 68jk09 on September 09, 2015, 05:37:31 PM
A collapse must be with a ladder company because it is a rescue company and engine ff aren't trained for rescue work
It is transported & used by a Soc Support LAD but can be stored anywhere if need be.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Bxboro on September 23, 2015, 11:00:03 AM
Please refresh my memory. Buffed alot in the 80's and used to hear the fellas use the term "Onion skin" often. What's it mean ?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: tem217 on September 23, 2015, 02:07:33 PM
onion skin is a term used to describe someone who is detailed to a unit long term pending official transfer on the dept. orders.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Bxboro on September 23, 2015, 02:24:09 PM
thx
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: fdny747 on October 04, 2015, 02:28:49 PM
I was wondering if anyone new what brand of CO meter FDNY EMS uses? The ones that are yellow and they carry on the radio straps?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: FDNY793727 on October 04, 2015, 07:34:05 PM
I was wondering if anyone new what brand of CO meter FDNY EMS uses? The ones that are yellow and they carry on the radio straps?
I believe those are the BW Gas Alert Extreme CO meters. This is an article in reference to EMS personnel using it:
http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/events/2009/091909a.shtml
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: raybrag on January 23, 2016, 10:15:03 AM
G-Man Theory:

The "G-Man Theory", postulated many moons ago by long-time member (and mean ax-man) Tom Eve (guitarman314), states:

 "For every 10-75 or greater job, the one thing that is most probable is that one or more 1st due or 1st alarm unit(s) is not available for one reason or another."

A corollary to this theory is that if a given unit is out of service for training, Medicals, PM, etc. there will be a big job.

You'll see this theory referenced again and again on this board.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: ******* on January 23, 2016, 10:38:48 AM
As a BC I transmitted an all-hands, legitimate, for a box. The relocating truck for the first due truck on the all-hands left qtrs. and a few minutes later a first due box for them came in. This box also went to an all-hands with a one year old child killed in the fire. Forty years later it still bothers me did I need the all-hands, if I didn't maybe that child could have, would have been rescued. It was/is always a fine line on additional units needed at a fire. You do your best, then you have to live with it. As a DC I pulled up at a 2nd alarm fire in a 1 1/2 story garage, didn't like the looks of the fire in the building and thru the roof so I ordered the line out of the building and the men off the roof knowing I was giving up the building. Line reached the sidewalk outside and the last member got onto the aerial off the roof when the roof collapsed. Four or five brothers wouldn't have gone home that tour, 35 years later I still feel good about that one, always was and will be a fine line.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: fdhistorian on January 23, 2016, 12:33:26 PM
G-Man Theory:

The "G-Man Theory", postulated many moons ago by long-time member (and mean ax-man) Tom Eve (guitarman314), states:

 "For every 10-75 or greater job, the one thing that is most probable is that one or more 1st due or 1st alarm unit(s) is not available for one reason or another."

A corollary to this theory is that if a given unit is out of service for training, Medicals, PM, etc. there will be a big job.

You'll see this theory referenced again and again on this board.

The “G-Man Theory” is an excellent example of ‘good ole’ common sense and intuition expressing observations made over a long time into a theory that is actually based on very sound statistical calculations.

Every unit has a historical unavailability factor based on the percentage of hours that it is committed to responses, training, maintenance, etc.  The addition of EMS responses or the elimination of units contributes to unavailability.  The more responses a unit makes, the greater number of responses it will potentially miss.

The “G-Man Theory” accumulates these unit percentages across all of the units on a first alarm assignment.  For simplicity, if every unit had a 1-in-10 unavailability, the probability that any one unit on the first alarm assignment, without indicating which one in particular, will be unavailable, is cumulative.  If the first due assignment is four units, the probability that one of them is unavailable would be 4-in-10.  Small odds – less than half of the time.  However, when there are 8 units on the first due assignment, the odds are better 8-in-10.  Throw in the BC’s, the Squad and the Rescue and the odds are least 10-in-10 and you get the statistical certainty.  “G-Man Theory” works!

The corollary also works because it applies to “big jobs.”  A 10-75 loads up the 1st alarm assignment and that loads up the probability for the “G-Man Theory.”  But does it only work for 10-75’s?  Actually, it works all of the time overall (time of day is also a factor, but that is another layer of complexity).  However, when a first alarm assignment does not result in a 10-75, it doesn’t get nearly as much attention or discussion because there are fewer adverse consequences.

The "G-Man Theory" is really the "G-Man Effect."  Budget and policy makers should be more aware of it.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Bulldog on January 23, 2016, 12:34:13 PM
...Always was and will be a fine line...
A "Fine Line" that you and so many others do a great job balancing on day in and day out!
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: guitarman314 on January 23, 2016, 05:21:01 PM
G-Man Theory:

The "G-Man Theory", postulated many moons ago by long-time member (and mean ax-man) Tom Eve (guitarman314), states:

 "For every 10-75 or greater job, the one thing that is most probable is that one or more 1st due or 1st alarm unit(s) is not available for one reason or another."

A corollary to this theory is that if a given unit is out of service for training, Medicals, PM, etc. there will be a big job.

You'll see this theory referenced again and again on this board.

The “G-Man Theory” is an excellent example of ‘good ole’ common sense and intuition expressing observations made over a long time into a theory that is actually based on very sound statistical calculations.

Every unit has a historical unavailability factor based on the percentage of hours that it is committed to responses, training, maintenance, etc.  The addition of EMS responses or the elimination of units contributes to unavailability.  The more responses a unit makes, the greater number of responses it will potentially miss.

The “G-Man Theory” accumulates these unit percentages across all of the units on a first alarm assignment.  For simplicity, if every unit had a 1-in-10 unavailability, the probability that any one unit on the first alarm assignment, without indicating which one in particular, will be unavailable, is cumulative.  If the first due assignment is four units, the probability that one of them is unavailable would be 4-in-10.  Small odds – less than half of the time.  However, when there are 8 units on the first due assignment, the odds are better 8-in-10.  Throw in the BC’s, the Squad and the Rescue and the odds are least 10-in-10 and you get the statistical certainty.  “G-Man Theory” works!

The corollary also works because it applies to “big jobs.”  A 10-75 loads up the 1st alarm assignment and that loads up the probability for the “G-Man Theory.”  But does it only work for 10-75’s?  Actually, it works all of the time overall (time of day is also a factor, but that is another layer of complexity).  However, when a first alarm assignment does not result in a 10-75, it doesn’t get nearly as much attention or discussion because there are fewer adverse consequences.

The "G-Man Theory" is really the "G-Man Effect."  Budget and policy makers should be more aware of it.
  Thanks, reading these comments makes me appear to be smarter than I could ever be.  ;)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: mikeindabronx on May 14, 2018, 04:37:41 PM
Thank you Brad
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: raybrag on May 14, 2018, 05:12:08 PM
Thanks, Brad.  Of course, you know that this means you've got to keep the list up . . . every time somebody on the list retires, gets promoted, changes jobs, or in the case of the political appointees, gets fired, goes for a greener pasture, etc.  Have fun.  ::) 8) :o
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on May 14, 2018, 05:32:39 PM
Thanks, Brad.  Of course, you know that this means you've got to keep the list up . . . every time somebody on the list retires, gets promoted, changes jobs, or in the case of the political appointees, gets fired, goes for a greener pasture, etc.  Have fun.  ::) 8) :o

I'll see what I can do
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on May 14, 2018, 07:14:15 PM
http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,52684.0.html

Posted the EMS under EMS Operations
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: 68jk09 on May 14, 2018, 08:47:00 PM
DR Kerry Kelly who was Car 30 Retired recently.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: CFDMarshal on May 14, 2018, 08:50:22 PM
Kinda feel for the driver of Car 2 :o
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on May 14, 2018, 08:57:03 PM
DR Kerry Kelly who was Car 30 Retired recently.

I gave it my best shot lol. Got the lists sent to me 4/20/18 lol
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: manhattan on May 14, 2018, 09:50:38 PM
Thanks, Brad.  Of course, you know that this means you've got to keep the list up . . . every time somebody on the list retires, gets promoted, changes jobs, or in the case of the political appointees, gets fired, goes for a greener pasture, etc.  Have fun.  ::) 8) :o

You left out "political appointees being indicted".
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on May 19, 2018, 11:38:44 PM
What does the chief of uniformed personnel do ?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: STAjo on August 02, 2018, 11:04:00 PM

 Great Work on the List, Brad ! Many Thanks !   8)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on August 03, 2018, 06:08:14 AM
What does the chief of uniformed personnel do ?

I know they are up there in Rank
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on August 27, 2018, 04:15:23 PM
I remember back seeing a question about what CPC & SOC Ladders do & which companies they are

Each answer use to have a link at the end bringing you to which companies they are. Unfortunately the links are not working. So i decided to add which companies are which. The Q&A part has been copied over from the original post which was made by The Late Great Catry

As always Please fill free to make any correction

Q: What is a SOC Support Ladder?
A: The SSLs consist of two pieces: the ladder company and a second supply truck.  SSLs carry a variety of tools not normally carried by trucks that may come in handy in a special operation, including extra rescue tools.  At least 2 SSLs are required to respond on a 10-60.  At times when Rescue and Squad companies are busy an SSL may be assigned instead.

Manhattan:
TL-1 TL-7 TL-17 L-25 TL-45

Bronx:
L-27 L-42 TL-46 L-47 TL-50

Brooklyn:
TL-131 L-132 TL-146 L-169 TL-170 H&L-175

Queens:
TL-117 TL-121 L-126 L-136 TL-144 TL-152 L-150

Staten Island:
TL-77 TL-79



Q: What is a Chemical Protective Clothing Ladder?
A: A CPC truck consists of two pieces: the ladder company and a second supply truck.  CPC companies carry chemical suits used to mitigate HazMat situations, primarily for decon. The CPC role is primarily defensive with emphasis on search, rescue, removal, and decon of civilians and emergency responders.  Their protective gear is tailored to their specific needs, and does not supplement that of the mitigation/offensive-oriented Hazmat and Hazmat Technician units. 

Manhattan:
L-2 H&L-6 TL-9 L-10 TL-12 TL-13 TL-18 TL-21 TL-23 TL-35 R-1

Bronx:
TL-17 TL-33 TL-51 TL-58

Brooklyn:
TL-105 TL-107 TL-111 TL-114 TL-119 TL-120 TL-124 TL-157 TL-159 TL-172 R-2

Queens:
TL-115 TL-142 TL-160

Staten Island:
L-80 TL-87
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on August 27, 2018, 05:43:14 PM
That’s cool thanks for that
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: nfd2004 on August 27, 2018, 05:57:40 PM
 Brad, aka "signal73", you continue to do an Excellent Job.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on August 27, 2018, 05:59:46 PM
Brad, aka "signal73", you continue to do an Excellent Job.

Willy when work is slow and you sit in front of a computer screen for 13 1/2 hours you find things to pass the time  ;D
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on August 27, 2018, 07:01:28 PM
How about the Decon engines what do they carry and do they have a second piece?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on August 27, 2018, 07:16:00 PM
I don't think the Decon Engine's Carry anything they just assist with the Decon Station. No second Piece

Decon Support Unit – 1 – responds with equipment and supplies from its separate quarters in Corona, Queens.

Decon Engines

Manhattan:
E-4 E-7 E-16 E-35 E-37 E-74 E-93
E-4 & E-37 have the Decon Units

Bronx:
E-46 E-64 E-73 E-81 E-89

Brooklyn:
E-205 E-225 E-229 E-246 E-257 E-279 E-280 E-332


Queens:
E-251 E-263 E-265 E-287 E-295 E-299 E-301 E-303
E-251 has the Decon Unit

Staten Island:
E-153 E-156 E-160
E-160 has the Decon Unit
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on August 27, 2018, 07:49:17 PM
Cool
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: nfd2004 on August 27, 2018, 09:11:13 PM
 I know that over the years there has been an EXCELLENT BOOK written by a guy named James Griffinths, who I believe is an HONORARY Deputy Chief within the FDNY.

 That book, the latest version being the FDNY Operational Reference Book - 11th edition, was released in April, 2017.

 There are facts and details of just about any question regarding the latest apparatus, equipment, tactics, policies, etc etc of the FDNY, including FDNY/EMS.

 I believe one of the places it can be purchased is through the FDNY Foundation, the official non profit organization of the FDNY.

 The address is:
  FDNY Foundation
  9 Metro Tech Center
  #5E-9
  Brooklyn, NY 11201

 Phone (718) 999-0779

 Web Site:
 www.fdnyfoundation.org
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on August 29, 2018, 08:00:51 AM
Since some of the link are not working. I figured i would just post the units here:

Q: What's a Decon Task Force?
A: There are two kinds of DTFs, the Technical Task Force and the Mass Task Force.  Technical Task force consists of a SOC Support Truck, the engine housed with it, and the Battalion Chief for that house. The MDTF by comparison consists of 1 Battalion, 2 engines, 1 CPC Tower Ladder, 2 SOC Support Trucks for gross decon of multiple victims.

Decon Task Force
Manhattan:
E-7 TL-1 B-1
E-16 TL-7 B-8
E-35 TL-14 B-12
E-74 L-25 B-11
E-93 TL-45 B-13

Bronx:
E-46 L-27 B-17
E-64 L-47 B-3
E-73 L-42 B-26
E-81 TL-46 B-19
E-89 TL-50 B-20

Brooklyn:
E-229 TL-146 B-35
E-246 L-169 B-43
E-257 TL-170 B-58
E-279 TL-131 B-32
E-280 L-132 B-38
E-332 H&L-175 B-44

Queens:
E-259 L-128 B-45
E-263 TL-117 B-49
E-265 L-121 B-47
E-287 L-136 B-46
E-295 TL-144 B-52
E-299 TL-152 B-53
E-301 L-150 B-50
E-303 L-126 B-51

Staten Island:
E-153 TL-77 B-21
E-156 TL-79 B-22
E-162 L-82 B-23

Division Task Force

Manhattan:
E-24 E-5 H&L-5 B-2 (Division 1)
E-8 E-65 L-2 B-8 (Division 3)

Bronx:
E-59 E-83 L-29 B-14 (Division 6)
E-48 E-67 L-56 B-18 (Division 7)

Brooklyn:
E-240 E-282 L-148 B-48 (Division 11)
E-248 E-276 L-156 B-41(Division 15)

Queens:
E-275 E-315 L-133 B-50 (Division 13)
E-?? E-?? L-?? B-?? (Division 14)

Staten Island:
E-?? E-?? L-?? B-?? (Division 8 )
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on August 29, 2018, 09:26:03 AM
Q: What is a Purple K Unit?
A: Purple K unit carries several pounds of dry chemical retardent which is used instead of water on certain chemical and electrical fires.  These rigs are assigned to an engine company and are staffed by members of the Engine.

Manhattan/Bronx
E-84(Primary)
E-59(Back Up)

Queens
E-326(Primary)
E-315(Back Up)

Brooklyn/Staten Island
E-228(Primary)
E-242(Back Up)
E-229(Primary)
E-230(Back Up)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: grumpy grizzly on August 29, 2018, 12:29:23 PM
FDNY Bookstore I believe is the cheapest place to purchase it, think I paid 29.95 and got it in 4-5 days. The fire-police-ems bookstore is another source but costs more.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: HCO on August 29, 2018, 02:55:27 PM
The “Division Task Force” components cited above are not “Decon Task Force” components, and are not involved in Decon Operations.

The units shown are the Fire elements of the Division Counter Terrorism Rescue Task Force program. Each 11-person Rescue Task Force includes Fire, EMS, and NYPD Strategic Response Group personnel.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on August 29, 2018, 03:03:32 PM
2 charts.

1 is Decon

1 is the Task force
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on August 29, 2018, 04:00:49 PM
Thanks again I’m interested in buying that book is there a web site for the book store to order it ? What about the haztac vans what is there purpose and who do they belong too ? Thx
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on August 29, 2018, 04:45:10 PM
I ordered it thx
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: jks19714 on August 29, 2018, 05:43:48 PM
I know that over the years there has been an EXCELLENT BOOK written by a guy named James Griffinths, who I believe is an HONORARY Deputy Chief within the FDNY.

 That book, the latest version being the FDNY Operational Reference Book - 11th edition, was released in April, 2017.

 There are facts and details of just about any question regarding the latest apparatus, equipment, tactics, policies, etc etc of the FDNY, including FDNY/EMS.

 I believe one of the places it can be purchased is through the FDNY Foundation, the official non profit organization of the FDNY.

 The address is:
  FDNY Foundation
  9 Metro Tech Center
  #5E-9
  Brooklyn, NY 11201

 Phone (718) 999-0779

 Web Site:
 www.fdnyfoundation.org

Best book I've seen on big-city firefighting (I was a suburban vollie in northern Delaware for 25 years).  At the time, we were an all-Mack company with four engines, an aerialscope and a heavy rescue.  Those were the days.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on September 28, 2018, 02:46:06 PM
Who is the logistics chief
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on September 28, 2018, 02:50:08 PM
I am not seeing one. Maybe there is not one

The list will get updated when I receive the information with the updates
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on September 28, 2018, 07:08:23 PM
Ya it’s car 4 c I saw that but don’t know the person or rank
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on September 28, 2018, 07:13:26 PM
And do you know who the chief of planning is ?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on September 28, 2018, 08:55:28 PM
Ya it’s car 4 c I saw that but don’t know the person or rank

Car-4C (Chief Of Operations Administration AC John Hodgens)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on September 28, 2018, 08:56:33 PM
And do you know who the chief of planning is ?

Car-4H (Deputy Assistant Chief Of Planning Frederick Villani)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: HCO on September 28, 2018, 09:47:27 PM
Assistant Chief Fredrick (note spelling) V. Villani is the Assistant Chief of EMS Operations, Car 5A.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on September 28, 2018, 10:11:57 PM
Had Car-5A blank on my list
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on September 29, 2018, 10:13:38 AM
Companies that do not get relocated

Brooklyn
E-207
E-250
E-284

Bronx(Must Fill/Do Not Relocate)
E-52
E-63
E-70
E-72
L-39
L-52
L-53

Manhattan (Do Not Relocate)
0700 X 2400
L-2
L-4
L-7
L-24
B-8
B-9
24 Hours
E-8
E-9
E-10
E-44
E-54
L-10

Manhattan (Must Fill)
0700 X 2400
L-2
L-4
L-7
L-24
B-8
B-9
24 Hours
E-8
E-54
E-95
L-36

Queens (Do Not Relocate)
E-324

Staten Island (Do Not Relocate)
E-151
E-159
L-76

Staten Island (Must Fill)
E-151
L-76
Sq-8
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: nfd2004 on September 29, 2018, 11:14:22 AM
 Thanks Brad for providing that list. I'm sure that many members outside the area have no idea that some FDNY companies do NOT relocate. As well as some that only relocate during certain times.

 In each case there are reasons that the leadership within the department feels it is more important to have them remain in their own quarters when possible.

 This is an example of how EVERYTHING is so well thought out and organized. The FDNY leadership feels this is what is best for the FDNY and the millions of citizens they protect.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on September 29, 2018, 01:54:49 PM
Very nice thx
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: manlt on September 29, 2018, 03:34:25 PM
SI, e159 doesn’t relocate (none of the satellites do). They also don’t have 4th due boxes.( all satellites)
151/76 don’t relocate and our must cover if either will be operating for greater than 30 minuets.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: JOR176 on September 29, 2018, 06:26:53 PM
Back in the 50's  249 & 113 did not relocate and were must fill.The reason for this was they were first due at Box 1096 which was the Box associated with Kings County Hospital that also had R2 on the Box and a Division Chief.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: guitarman314 on September 30, 2018, 02:01:49 AM
Back in the 50's  249 & 113 did not relocate and were must fill.The reason for this was they were first due at Box 1096 which was the Box associated with Kings County Hospital that also had R2 on the Box and a Division Chief.
  That could also be the reason why L113 got former L24's 1959 Mack/Maxim/Magirus 100ft. tiller in 1961. ;)
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: manhattan on September 30, 2018, 02:07:28 AM
Gman,

Is there anything that you and a few other folks on here don't know about??
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: memory master on September 30, 2018, 05:47:42 AM
Gman,

Is there anything that you and a few other folks on here don't know about??
Among the many great things about this site is that everyone learns from someone else. The fellowship here is of the highest caliber.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on September 30, 2018, 10:47:32 AM
I see DAC Daniel f Donoghue what is his position I see him listed under staff chiefs
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on September 30, 2018, 10:54:02 AM
Hey you have 4 h and 5a as the same person
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on September 30, 2018, 10:54:53 AM
He is EMS
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: memory master on September 30, 2018, 11:23:22 AM
He is EMS
Are you sure about him being EMS? If he is, I must be retired too long to know of him.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on September 30, 2018, 12:47:53 PM
I got it from the 2018 medal day his image and name and has an end headgear
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on September 30, 2018, 01:28:51 PM
Everyone the list will he updated with new info in the next week or so
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on September 30, 2018, 03:05:26 PM
Cool, is there a car 4 b?
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on September 30, 2018, 03:13:33 PM
Cool, is there a car 4 b?

Yes says it right in the list and if it’s not the right person as stated above the list will get updated as soon as i get the new list which will be in a few weeks. Still moving some stuff around.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Joeyengine on September 30, 2018, 03:48:27 PM
Ladder 76 can go where ever the dispatcher sends them..the engine however needs a relocator whenever they are operating for an extended amout of time of go 10-99
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: capthale on September 30, 2018, 06:19:42 PM
What is 4 b  role
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on December 19, 2018, 12:07:40 PM
Figured I'd post the Ice & Cold Water Rescue Units seeing is how 2 were just added today in SI

Manhattan:
L-2,3,5,7,8,10,11,12
L-14,15,16,18,21,22,23
L-30,34,35,36,40,43
R-1
Sq-18

Bronx:
E-72
L-29,31,48,49
L-50,54,58,61
Sq-41,61
R-3

Queens:
L-115,117,121,130,134,137
L-144,164,155,158,173
Sq-270,288
R-4

Brooklyn
E-224,321
L-101,104,106,109,110
L-113,118,159,161
L-166,168,169,170
R-2
Sq-1,252

Staten Island
E-151,156,158,160
E-161,162,164,165
L-78,80
R-5
Sq-8

JUST ADDED
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: nfd2004 on December 19, 2018, 12:47:18 PM
Thank you “signal 73” for that updated info. You are certainly a valuable asset to this site.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on December 31, 2018, 01:14:42 PM
Recently some one asked about reserved Rigs & Locations

This is what I have (Corrections Help)

Reserved Rig & Where it is

Manhattan:
E500 L18
E503 L20
E505 E54
E507 E53
E511 E59
L701 E91
L703 E93
L705 L20

Da Bronx
E508 E42
E509 E68
E510 E63
L706 L44

Queens
E522 E329
E523 E314   
E524 E291
L702 ??
L707 E258

Brooklyn
E514 E242   
E515 ??
E516 E206
E517 ??
E518 E238
E520 E253
L708 E211

Staten Island
E512 E158
E513 E168
L704   Seaview

Gov. Island & SOC Island
E519   Governors Island
E521   Soc Island
E525   Governors Island
L709   Governors Island
L710   Governors Island
R6 Soc Island
R7 Soc Island
Sq800 Soc Island
HM-2 Soc Island
HMSU-2 Soc Island
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on March 25, 2019, 06:42:55 PM
So I finally got the FDNY Operational Reference Book (Not Sure what took me so long to get one)

Figured I would share some info(might be useless info for some) here on the page.

Just in case someone down the road had a question they could come to this very helpful posted started by the one and only Catry

FDNY Acronyms
ARC= Air Recon Chief
BFU = Brush Fire Unit
COMP = Air Compressor
CPC = Chemical Protective Clothing Company
CTU = Command Tactical Unit
CU = Communications Unit
DU = Dewatering Unit
DSA = Decon Shower Apparatus
FC = Foam Coordinator Unit
FCB = Field Communications Battalion
FCU = Field Communications Unit
HMB = HazMat Battalion
HMTU = HazMat Tech Unit
HRU = High-Rise Unit
HRN = High-Rise Nozzle Unit
LCU = Lobby Control Unit
LSU = Logistics Support Unit
MCC = Mobile Command Center
MSU - Mask Service Unit
PIO = Public Information Officer
PK = Purple K Unit
PSC = Planning Section Battalion
PU = Photo Unit
RCC = Rail Cart Company
RAC = Recuperation & Care Unit
RBU = Rebreather Unit
RM = Rehab Manager
ROB = Rescue Operations Battalion
RUL = Resource Unit Leader
SAM = Staging Area Manager
SAT = Satellite Unit
SB = Safety Battalion Chief
SO = Safety Officer
SSL = SOC Support Ladder Company
TSU = Tactical Support Unit
VSU = Ventilation Support Unit
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: grumpy grizzly on March 26, 2019, 10:08:57 AM
With Spring coming how about BFU, Brush Fire Unit. 2019 apparatus has a listing on page 4 as well.
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: rangermsg1 on April 04, 2019, 01:59:30 PM
Communications
Q: Who/what is Car [insert number]?  How do they respond?
A: The Car assignments are the designations for special personnel, either administrative or command, who are associated mainly with FD HQ.  For example, Car 36B is for the Department Chaplain.  There are certain responses, such as a third alarm or 10-60 transmission, that require the response of certain cars.  For example, multiple alarms requires the response of the on-duty staff chief (a chief at rank DAC or above).  There is a list of car assignments at: http://www.firebellclub.org/cars.html (http://www.firebellclub.org/cars.html)
Some Car assignments and who they are (as of November 2009):
Car 1 (Commissioner Daniel A. Nigro)
Car 1A (Executive Assistant to the Commissioner)
Car 2 (1st Deputy Commissioner Daniel Shacknai)
Car 3 (Chief of Department Edward Kilduff)
Car 4 (Chief of Fire Operations James Esposito)
Car 4A (AC James Manahan, Assistant Chief of Operations)
Car 4C (AC Ronald Spadafora, Chief of Logistics)
Car 4D (AC Joseph Pfeifer, Assistant Chief of Operations - Counterterrorism/Preparedness)
Car 4G (AC Edward Baggott, Assistant Chief of Operations - Administration)
Car 4H (DAC James Daly Jr, Deputy Assistant Chief of Operations - Planning & Strategy)
Car 5 (Chief of EMS Operations John Peruggia)
Car 6 (AC John Sudnik, Manhattan Borough Commander)
Car 7 (DAC James Leonard, Brooklyn Borough Commander)
Car 8 (DAC Michael Marrone, Staten Island Borough Commander)
Car 9 (DAC Robert Maynes, Queens Borough Commander)
Car 10 (DAC Kevin Butler, Bronx Borough Commander)
Car 11 (AC William Seelig, Chief of Special Operations Command)
Car 11A (BC Stephen J. Geraghty, Chief of Rescue Operations)
Car 11B (DC Nicholas Delre, Chief of HazMat Operations)
Car 11C (BC James Dalton, Chief of Marine Operations)
Car 12 (AC Stephen Raynis, Chief of Safety and Inspectional Services)
Car 13 (AC Thomas Jensen, Chief of Fire Prevention)
Car 13A (AC Richard Tobin, Assistant Chief of Fire Prevention)
Car 13B (DAC Joseph Woznica, DAC of Fire Prevention)
Car 14 (Chief Fire Marshal Robert Byrnes)
Car 15 (AC Thomas Galvin, Chief of Training)
Car 15A (DAC James Mooney, Chief of Fire Academy)
Car 16 (AC Robert Boyce Jr., Chief of Communications)
Car 17 (BC Michael Gala Jr., Chief of  Personnel)

Does anyone happen to have a link/list to the car designations/assignments?  Would be very helpful to reference when hearing the cars respond over the scanner on their role.  So, just looking for their designations mainly, names are nice but not required.  Seems like the firebellclub link is no longer accessible.   
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: raybrag on April 04, 2019, 02:41:54 PM
https://nycfirewire.net/fdnyinfo/operations/car-assignments
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: rangermsg1 on April 04, 2019, 03:18:48 PM
https://nycfirewire.net/fdnyinfo/operations/car-assignments

Thank you for the suggestion.  I have been using this site for reference but noticed that a couple cars from yesterday's 6th Alarm were not listed and seems like this site is a bit outdated.  Cars that were not listed:  22C, 2H. 
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on April 08, 2019, 07:04:32 AM
https://nycfirewire.net/fdnyinfo/operations/car-assignments

Thank you for the suggestion.  I have been using this site for reference but noticed that a couple cars from yesterday's 6th Alarm were not listed and seems like this site is a bit outdated.  Cars that were not listed:  22C, 2H.

Car-2H Press Secretary
Car-22C Fleet Mechanic Supervisor
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on April 08, 2019, 07:09:27 AM
https://nycfirewire.net/fdnyinfo/operations/car-assignments

Handful of Cars are missing from the list

I'll do my best to when there is a higher alarm to note what the car assignments are

Any questions on car assignments ill do my best to help
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: rangermsg1 on April 08, 2019, 09:44:30 AM
https://nycfirewire.net/fdnyinfo/operations/car-assignments

Thank you for the suggestion.  I have been using this site for reference but noticed that a couple cars from yesterday's 6th Alarm were not listed and seems like this site is a bit outdated.  Cars that were not listed:  22C, 2H.

Car-2H Press Secretary
Car-22C Fleet Mechanic Supervisor

Thank you Signal for the info!! You have been doing an outstanding job with the rundowns!
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on May 16, 2019, 07:55:06 AM
Some one recently asked about the response for a Minor Technical Rescue

Figured I would post the Minor & Major Technical Responses to the best of my knowledge


Minor Technical Response
3 Engines
2 Trucks
1 Battalion Chief
1 Soc Support Ladder
1 Rescue
1 Squad
1 Tac Unit
Rescue Battalion
Safety Battalion

*Transit Incident Notify the TLO/RLO

Major
3 Engines
2 Trucks
1 Battalion Chief
(1 Rescue Task Force)
1 Rescue
1 Rescue Collapse
1 Squad w/ 2nd Piece
1 Soc Support Ladder*
*When the Rescue Collapse is transported by a SSL. No additional SSL required
1 Additional Rescue
1 Tac Unit
Rescue Battalion
Safety Battalion
Field Comm
Field Comm Batt.
Soc Logistics
Soc Compressor
Haz-Mat 1
Haz-Mat Batt.
1 Haz-Mat Tec Unit

*Trench Rescue: 1 ConEd Vac-Truck on initial alarm. 2nd one on confirmed
*Confined Space: Rebreather 1
*Major Transit: Rebreather 1, SOC Electric Rail Car, Notify TLO/RLO

 
Title: Re: FDNY: Frequently Asked Questions
Post by: Signal73 on June 24, 2019, 01:28:30 PM
Couple of changes that came out recently 6/18

* No more SOC Support trucks on any of the responses

* Minor Technical Response
-Now a 5-7 signal with the special units

* Boat in Distress
-Now a 5-7 Signal with the boats. No other SOC Units

*Any unit can now transport a collapse rig whether they have a 2nd chauffeur or not. Nearest available unit if Primary transport is not available.