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Title: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 13, 2012, 09:49:23 PM
http://nycfire.net/files/Third%20Alarm%20-%20Vol20%20-%20No1.pdf (http://nycfire.net/files/Third%20Alarm%20-%20Vol20%20-%20No1.pdf)         ........Scroll down to page 8 of this newsletter for an interesting rundown on BKLYN box 55-270 at Bushwick & Johnson Aves that occurred  forty four years ago this week in Williamsburg..(some other intersting stats also are contained here ).
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: Bronx72 on January 14, 2012, 09:16:53 AM
Those fire reports are awesome!  How long did "Third Alarm" publish?  I am struck by the initial alarm assignments: was it standard procedure to send only what was available of the assignment, or did they ask the BC as they do nowadays if the reduced assignment was sufficient?
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on January 14, 2012, 09:34:17 AM
Chief - newsletters is great.  A different era.

- 90 multiples in month!!!!
- Page 11 - Box 1669 - Deputy orders 2nd alarm companies to "respond in with masks".  1968 - companies had masks but use was not mandatory.  Imagine 3 or 4 fires a night without using a mask. 
- ID cards for auxiliaries
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: ******* on January 14, 2012, 10:40:36 AM
Thank you 68 for the memories. Worked with many of the names listed. Came on the job in 1960. 100 runs a month with 50 workers (9-2's, rubbish etc.) was busy. When you read the stats for 1967 and see the workload change in those few years, it is startling. Again, was the best of times and the worst of times. Working with those firefighters those years was priceless, unfortunately many paid a heavy price, as did their families.
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Post by: johnd248 on January 14, 2012, 12:37:23 PM
Thanks Chief for that info.  Brings back lots of memories: Captain Lindgren was my boss at E 248 and the one who signed me up as an Aux.  Capt. Kromer(L147), Capt. Cartossa(L 157), and Capt. Penta (L148) were all gentlemen that I worked with while responding with E 248.  Newsletter also mentions DC Delaney being transferred from D 8 to D 3; he made Deputy when working in B 41 and I had many fires with him.  All great firefighters and a pleasure to work with.
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Post by: nfd2004 on January 14, 2012, 01:23:22 PM
Thanks Chief for that info.  Brings back lots of memories: Captain Lindgren was my boss at E 248 and the one who signed me up as an Aux.  Capt. Kromer(L147), Capt. Cartossa(L 157), and Capt. Penta (L148) were all gentlemen that I worked with while responding with E 248.  Newsletter also mentions DC Delaney being transferred from D 8 to D 3; he made Deputy when working in B 41 and I had many fires with him.  All great firefighters and a pleasure to work with.

  I would just like to mention that Captain Lindgren (RIP) is the father of "69Mets", also a retired FDNY Member. Also, I believe that "macks" father was assigned as an officer and B/C there (Eng 248/B41).
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 14, 2012, 07:39:13 PM
Those fire reports are awesome!  How long did "Third Alarm" publish?  I am struck by the initial alarm assignments: was it standard procedure to send only what was available of the assignment, or did they ask the BC as they do nowadays if the reduced assignment was sufficient?
.....back in those days rarely did the I.C. ask for additional Units before arriving on the scene....when it was busy it was not uncommon to have no BC & 1&1 responding.....i remember boxes where BKLYN would tell SQ*3 ...you ARE the Truck" sending only the SQ & an Eng on a box.....in the early '60s prior to the 10-30 /10-75 it was not uncommon to hear a box announced on the air  then not hearing anything for quite awhile untill the BN would come on & say ..."we are using All Hands"....sometime nothing was said at all after the box announcement then the next transmission quite sometime later would be  .."transmit a Second" w/nothing in between (this of course was on boxes that had at least 3&2 going in due to all being available)......i think in BKLYN the 44*BN was the 1st to start using terms like "we have a Job" on arrival....i think this came from Boston ......."smoke & Fire showin strike the box"  (CPT. Hurley.. Rescue Pumper).   
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on January 14, 2012, 09:11:23 PM
"Transmit the box" seemed to be a common radio message used by units for a working fire before the 10-30 and 10-75 signals were initiated.   

Boston FD units used term "smoke showing" and requested "box to be struck" when they had a fire.  Currently, Boston Fire Alarm still uses term "striking box xxxx"  when announcing full first alarm assignment.
 
Boston MA Three Alarm Fire 1 of 2 1/4/10 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FpsDKEFykA#)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 17, 2012, 09:49:22 PM
http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/16/recalling-an-accidental-blast-at-a-homemade-bomb-factory/ (http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/01/16/recalling-an-accidental-blast-at-a-homemade-bomb-factory/)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on January 18, 2012, 02:07:31 AM
http://www.newyorkcitywalk.com/html/images_weathermen.html (http://www.newyorkcitywalk.com/html/images_weathermen.html)
(http://s13.postimage.org/l88613bxf/Fire_Crowd.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/l88613bxf/)
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Post by: 68jk09 on January 18, 2012, 05:33:33 AM
http://www.pbase.com/edpop/wnyf_cartoons (http://www.pbase.com/edpop/wnyf_cartoons)

http://www.pbase.com/edpop/wnyf_cartoons_vol_ii (http://www.pbase.com/edpop/wnyf_cartoons_vol_ii)
   Excellent posting of some cartoon's not seen in years....my favorite is IMG 0051 concerning the pump panel....it was true when it was first printed but even more so in 2012........IMG 0116 " turn that handle some more" is a good one......IMG 0050 sub cellar is reminiscent of one of the greatest Fire Officer's OTJ....CPT Fred Gallagher R*2 '74 to '80..."Just give us enough line & we will put out the bowels of hell"


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Post by: guitarman314 on January 18, 2012, 10:23:14 AM
Is that efd274 & kfd274 on Image 09993? ??? ;D
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: kfd274 on January 18, 2012, 04:01:12 PM
Is that efd274 & kfd274 on Image 09993? ??? ;D

That's us!!

And one of the heros is Captain August H.  "Buddy"  Fritz.    One of the best.  A friend and mentor.  RIP Cap.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 24, 2012, 10:52:49 PM
http://www.ny1.com/content/features/today_in_nyc_history/3862/january-24th-in-nyc-history?ap=1&MP4 (http://www.ny1.com/content/features/today_in_nyc_history/3862/january-24th-in-nyc-history?ap=1&MP4)             ....1-24-75 the bombing of Fraunces Tavern.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 02, 2012, 06:43:18 PM
http://www.ny1.com/content/special_reports/ny1_at_20/156962/ny1-at-20--1994-report-examines-lga-runway-safety-after-plane-nearly-skids-into-bay?ap=1&MP4 (http://www.ny1.com/content/special_reports/ny1_at_20/156962/ny1-at-20--1994-report-examines-lga-runway-safety-after-plane-nearly-skids-into-bay?ap=1&MP4)               .............1992 & 1994 Plane crashes at LAG.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: fdny1075k on March 02, 2012, 09:24:12 PM
A great piece of history! The Super Pumper and Searchlight Units were still in service, the War Years were going on, 90 multi-alarm jobs in one month, and of course, FDNY Bronx Engine 82 with the most runs, and Ladder 31 with the third most runs. Busiest Divisions: 4th, 6th, and 15th(the hot spots). Great rundowns too!

Quick question, I see Ambulance 1, was that an FDNY bus pre-merger with NYC EMS? Also, were there only two tower ladders at that time(1 & 14) or was there also one in Brooklyn?
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: johnd248 on March 02, 2012, 10:29:23 PM
L105 was the first Tower Ladder in Bklyn.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: nfd2004 on March 02, 2012, 10:36:24 PM
A great piece of history! The Super Pumper and Searchlight Units were still in service, the War Years were going on, 90 multi-alarm jobs in one month, and of course, FDNY Bronx Engine 82 with the most runs, and Ladder 31 with the third most runs. Busiest Divisions: 4th, 6th, and 15th(the hot spots). Great rundowns too!

Quick question, I see Ambulance 1, was that an FDNY bus pre-merger with NYC EMS? Also, were there only two tower ladders at that time(1 & 14) or was there also one in Brooklyn?

  As I remember, Ambulance 1 was a piece of FDNY apparatus. It was not a part of the NYC EMS. And as I remember  the two first tower ladders assigned to TL 1 and TL 14 (Macks) both in Manhattan. At the time, there was no Tower Ladder in Brooklyn. As John said, later TL 105 was assigned a Tower Ladder.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 1261Truckie on March 03, 2012, 02:22:46 AM
John248,
I believe 119 was the first tower in Brooklyn (much to 105's chagrin).
1261
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: nfd2004 on March 03, 2012, 10:54:13 AM
I also believe that it was TL 119, and TL 14 that recieved the only two Sutphen Tower Ladders. I think there's pictures somewhere on this site of them. The others that were different was the ALF rearmount TL's that 14 and 163 recieved.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: grumpy grizzly on March 03, 2012, 11:19:28 AM
When TL-14 got their ALF TL didn't they keep the Sutphen in quarters as their spare??
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: ******* on March 03, 2012, 12:44:35 PM
Was assigned to L127 as ff. Was promoted to Lt. 8/69. It was shortly after this that 127 received the first TL in Queens.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 03, 2012, 09:46:50 PM
14 & 119 had the Sutphens  .....after 14s was replaced 119 had both Sutphens 1 as their regular rig & the other as a spare only to be used by them.......a fact about the Sutphens was that they had pumps......the agreement between the City & the Unions was that the pumps would only be used to boost pressure from a line into the TL already being supplied by an ENG.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: fdny1075k on March 03, 2012, 10:09:45 PM
14 & 119 had the Sutphens  .....after 14s was replaced 119 had both Sutphens 1 as their regular rig & the other as a spare only to be used by them.......a fact about the Sutphens was that they had pumps......the agreement between the City & the Unions was that the pumps would only be used to boost pressure from a line into the TL already being supplied by an ENG.
I think 119 eventually got an ALF 100' tower. If and when they did, what happened to the two Sutphens?
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: nfd2004 on March 04, 2012, 12:40:05 AM
No, I don't think 119 ever got that ALF Rearmount Tower Ladder
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on March 04, 2012, 02:51:22 AM
No, I don't think 119 ever got that ALF Rearmount Tower Ladder
  You're right Willy, they had the 1981 "TOWER OF POWER" Sutphen. ;)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 04, 2012, 05:30:01 AM
After the Sutphens 119 had Mack TLs.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: Atlas on March 04, 2012, 08:19:37 AM
Both types of Tower Ladders, the two Sutphens & also the two ALF's had pumps in them. One set was 1250 GPM & the other was rated at 1500 GPM. I forget which was which, SORRY!

There was a fire in the South Bronx one evening where the staff chief instructed the dispatcher to special call Ladder 119 to the fire with their Sutphen Tower. L-119 used their pumps & put the fire out. After that incident the other unit who had the same rig started using their pumps too.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: grumpy grizzly on March 04, 2012, 09:04:02 AM
Sutphen TL-14 was a 1980 model with a 1250 pump. TL-119, the "Tower of Power" was a 1981 modeil similar to the 1980 model and also had a 1250 pump. Info from "Wheels of the Bravest"
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 31, 2012, 06:58:13 PM
Although not Fire service related this is an amazing story that was fwd to me by a friend......it concerns an awesome feat performed in 1943 during WW 2......unfortunately the pictures of the plane after landing did not transfer.....HERE IS THE STORY....A mid-air collision on February 1, 1943, between a B-17 and a German fighter over the Tunis dock area, became the subject of one of the most famous photographs of World War II. An enemy fighter attacking a 97th Bomb Group formation went out of control, probably with a wounded pilot then continued its crashing descent into the rear of the fuselage of a Fortress named All American, piloted by Lt. Kendrick R. Bragg, of the 414th Bomb Squadron. When it struck, the fighter broke apart, but left some pieces in the B-17. The left horizontal stabilizer of the Fortress and left elevator were completely torn away. The two right engines were out and one on the left had a serious oil pump leak. The vertical fin and the rudder had been damaged, the fuselage had been cut almost completely through connected only at two small parts of the frame and the radios, electrical and oxygen systems were damaged. There was also a hole in the top that was over 16 feet long and 4 feet wide at its widest and the split in the fuselage went all the way to the top gunners turret.

 


Although the tail actually bounced and swayed in the wind and twisted when the plane turned and all the control cables were severed, except one single elevator cable still worked, and the aircraft still flew - miraculously! The tail gunner was trapped because there was no floor connecting the tail to the rest of the plane. The waist and tail gunners used parts of the German fighter and their own parachute harnesses in an attempt to keep the tail from ripping off and the two sides of the fuselage from splitting apart. While the crew was trying to keep the bomber from coming apart, the pilot continued on his bomb run and released his bombs over the target.


 


When the bomb bay doors were opened, the wind turbulence was so great that it blew one of the waist gunners into the broken tail section. It took several minutes and four crew members to pass him ropes from parachutes and haul him back into the forward part of the plane. When they tried to do the same for the tail gunner, the tail began flapping so hard that it began to break off. The weight of the gunner was adding some stability to the tail section, so he went back to his position.

The turn back toward England had to be very slow to keep the tail from twisting off. They actually covered almost 70 miles to make the turn home. The bomber was so badly damaged that it was losing altitude and speed and was soon alone in the sky. For a brief time, two more Me-109 German fighters attacked the All American. Despite the extensive damage, all of the machine gunners were able to respond to these attacks and soon drove off the fighters. The two waist gunners stood up with their heads sticking out through the hole in the top of the fuselage to aim and fire their machine guns. The tail gunner had to shoot in short bursts because the recoil was actually causing the plane to turn.

Allied P-51 fighters intercepted the All American as it crossed over the Channel and took one of the pictures shown. They also radioed to the base describing that the empennage was waving like a fish tail and that the plane would not make it and to send out boats to rescue the crew when they bailed out. The fighters stayed with the Fortress taking hand signals from Lt. Bragg and relaying them to the base. Lt. Bragg signaled that 5 parachutes and the spare had been "used" so five of the crew could not bail out. He made the decision that if they could not bail out safely, then he would stay with the plane and land it.

Two and a half hours after being hit, the aircraft made its final turn to line up with the runway while it was still over 40 miles away. It descended into an emergency landing and a normal roll-out on its landing gear.

When the ambulance pulled alongside, it was waved off because not a single member of the crew had been injured. No one could believe that the aircraft could still fly in such a condition. The Fortress sat placidly until the crew all exited through the door in the fuselage and the tail gunner had climbed down a ladder, at which time the entire rear section of the aircraft collapsed onto the ground. The rugged old bird had done its job.
 
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on April 24, 2012, 02:31:41 AM
http://flavorwire.com/246318/fascinating-photos-of-a-teen-gang-in-50s-brooklyn#1 (http://flavorwire.com/246318/fascinating-photos-of-a-teen-gang-in-50s-brooklyn#1)                                                                                                                                                                                                                              Some '50s BKLYN street shots.....8 th  Ave & 17 St.
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Post by: 3511 on April 29, 2012, 05:38:24 PM
68jk...great story on the B17...is there a picture or did I miss it somewhere?
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Post by: grumpy grizzly on April 29, 2012, 06:11:37 PM
My father was a gunner on a B-17. He flew Schweinfurt and Regensburg Schweinfurt was know as Bloody Thursday 60 bombers of 250+ were shot down. My father said you did not need a navigator to return to England, just follow all the shot down aircraft.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on April 30, 2012, 04:42:19 PM
B 17

(http://s13.postimage.org/e1mibqv2b/uuu.jpg) (http://postimage.org/image/e1mibqv2b/)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on April 30, 2012, 04:49:47 PM
68jk...great story on the B17...is there a picture or did I miss it somewhere?
......When i pasted the story the picture links did not take .....once again Thanks to mack for coming thru & posting the 2 photos above (click to enlarge)........show this story to some youngsters......these were the Men who made history.
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Post by: 3511 on May 01, 2012, 12:59:34 PM
Thanks to all.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on May 02, 2012, 01:42:39 AM
Please take a few moments and pray for the 111 souls lost during the month of May of the forgotten men of our silent service during WW II. These gallant men are now lying entombed inside sunken submarines across the Pacific Ocean and are On The Eternal Patrol.

May 3, 1945 USS Lagarto (ss-371) Lagarto proceeded to the South China Sea for her 2nd patrol and received orders to head for outer waters of the Gulf of Siam. On May 2nd, she exchanged messages with the USS Baya (ss-138). The next day both subs attacked a Japanese convoy passing through the Southern Gulf of Siam. The convoy included one large ship and 1 medium sized ship, fiercely guarded by 2 Japanese escorts, one of which was the minelayer Hatsutaka. USS Baya was driven off by heavy gunfire and radio contact with the Lagarto was lost and she was never heard nor seen again. 85 souls lost. Post-war Japanese records revealed the Hatsutaka located a submerged submarine at 30 fathoms dropping depth charges on her, noting later with longitude and latitude readings. From that moment on, the exact location of the USS Lagarto has not been known, – until May 0f 2005. A group of private British deep sea divers from the MV Trident, discovered the USS Lagarto, in 230 feet of water, sitting upright and largely intact, but for a large hole in the port bow area, suggesting she suffered a direct hit from an explosive device. Also observed during the dive, was an open outside torpedo door, with an empty torpedo tube sealed behind it, suggesting the possibility that Lagarto fired off a torpedo shortly before her demise. The site is now designated a War Memorial-hands off! Lagarto had received 1 battle star for her WW2 service.

May 23, 1939, USS Squalus (ss-192), Newly built and launched on March 1,1939, she commenced numerous test dives off Portsmouth New Hampshire. After successfully completing 18 dives, she suffered a catastrophic valve failure on the next dive, May 23rd, off the Isle of Shoals. Flooding the aft torpedo room, both engine rooms and the crews quarters , drowning 26 men immediately, including Ensign Joseph H Patterson, star of the 1936 Olympics, US Track team. The sub settled on the bottom at 243 feet with 33 men still alive in the forward sections of the boat. Over the next 13hrs, the US Navy rescued the men on 4 trips, using the new McCann rescue chamber invented by Commander Charles B Momsen. 4 navy divers received the Congressional Medal of Honor for their heroics. On Sept 13th, the Squalus was raised and towed into the Portsmouth Navy Yard and decommissioned Nov 15th. On February 9, 1940 she was renamed the USS Sailfish (ss-192) and went on to perform honorably during 12 war patrols, with 9 battle stars and The Presidential Unit Citation for her WW2 service.

www.oneternalpatrol.com (http://www.oneternalpatrol.com)
VIEW MORE AT THIS LINK........ CONTINUED RIP TO ALL.
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Post by: mack on May 02, 2012, 02:10:46 AM
Thanks Chief - RIP.
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Post by: nfd2004 on May 02, 2012, 05:57:58 AM
Thank you for the story and May They Rest in Peace.
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Post by: 68jk09 on May 04, 2012, 09:02:48 PM
Oh! How I Miss The Old Days Of Brooklyn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpdGHZ3Oys8#ws)      .........OLD BKLYN.
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Post by: nfd2004 on May 04, 2012, 09:26:00 PM
Oh! How I Miss The Old Days Of Brooklyn (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpdGHZ3Oys8#ws)      .........OLD BKLYN.

  There's just no other place like it.

  Funny thing. I was just on the phone with my sister-in-law. She once lived and worked in NY. She now works in Ct. She told me that when she retires (soon) she wants to move back to NYC.
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Post by: johnd248 on May 05, 2012, 08:47:22 AM
Great pics and memories.  A native son of Brooklyn, I lived there from 1943 to 1973.

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Post by: 68jk09 on May 11, 2012, 03:56:20 PM
http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20120511/lower-east-side/tenement-museum-excavation-reveals-hidden-treasure-fireplaces#ixzz1uZLqjQFg (http://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20120511/lower-east-side/tenement-museum-excavation-reveals-hidden-treasure-fireplaces#ixzz1uZLqjQFg)        ...............NYC Tenement Museum.
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Post by: 68jk09 on May 23, 2012, 04:52:31 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-1970s-/120919382493?pt=Magazines&hash=item1c275b59dd (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-1970s-/120919382493?pt=Magazines&hash=item1c275b59dd)         Many years later=same headlines.
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Post by: nfd2004 on May 23, 2012, 05:20:50 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-1970s-/120919382493?pt=Magazines&hash=item1c275b59dd (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-1970s-/120919382493?pt=Magazines&hash=item1c275b59dd)         Many years later=same headlines.

  I have a copy. This is really a great Book. Actually it is not book bound but pages loaded with info from the FDNY of the 1970s.
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Post by: guitarman314 on May 23, 2012, 05:46:50 PM
  I have a copy of this and it's loaded with a lot of "War Years" info. I would call it: "FDNY 'War Years' 1970's Timeline"
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on June 02, 2012, 05:56:02 AM
Please take a few moments and pray for the 326 souls lost during the month of June of the forgotten men of our silent service during WW II. These gallant men are now lying entombed inside sunken submarines across the Pacific Ocean and are On The Eternal Patrol. Their faces can be viewed by linking to the following website www.oneternalpatrol.com (http://www.oneternalpatrol.com)

June 1, 1944 USS Herring (ss-233) After refueling at Midway Island on May 21st, Herring commenced her 8th patrol, heading for the Kurile Islands patrol area. 10 days later she met up with the USS Barb (ss-220). She was never heard or seen again. Post war Japanese records revealed she torpedoed and sunk 2 anchored Japanese merchant ships off Matsuwa Island on the morning of June 1st. Japanese shore batteries opened up on her scoring 2 direct hits on the conning tower. The sub sank and heavy oil flowed for 15 miles. 84 souls lost. Herring had received 5 battle stars for her WW 2 service.

June 12, 1943, USS R-12 (ss-89). First commissioned in 1919, she met her fate training submariners off the coast of Key West Florida. On this date, shortly after noon she was conducting torpedo practice and sounded her last dive. The forward battery compartment began to flood and before her crew could act, she sunk in 15 seconds. 42 souls were lost. 6 men were rescued..*Update* Sometime before May 25, 2011, an exploration team led by Tim Taylor aboard the expedition vessel "RV Tiburon", located and documented the wreck of the WW2 Submarine USS R-12, found in 600 feet of water off the coast of Key West Florida. In the spring of 2012, the "RV Tiburon" and the US Navy will return to further investigate possible causes of the sinking.

June 14, 1944, USS Golet (ss-361). Commencing her 2nd patrol, Golet departed Midway island on May 28th and headed for northern Honshu, Japan. She was never heard from again. Post war Japanese records revealed she was probably sunk by antisubmarine vessels northwest of Honshu. 82 souls lost.

June 18, 1945, USS Bonefish (ss-223). On her 8th and final patrol, Bonefish was assigned with 8 other submarines, in a group called "Hydemans Hellcats", of "Operation Barney" , under the control of Commander Earl Hydeman. The 9 subs were broken up into 3 groups of 3, "Hydeman’s Hepcats", (Hydeman overall command), "Pierce’s Polecats" (Commander Pierce in command) and "Risser’s Bobcats" (Commander Risser in command). USS Bonefish was part of "Pierce’s Pole Cats", commanded by USS Tunny’s skipper, Commander George E Pierce. All 9 submarines were equipped with a new mine-detecting FM Sonar device and were ordered to penetrate the Sea of Japan. They all successfully threaded there way through the minefields by Tsushima Islands and the Korea Strait to enter the Sea of Japan for an offensive patrol off the west central coast of Honshu. They all waited to attack at the same time and subsequently sunk 28 Jap vessels over 57,000 tons. On June 16th, Bonefish requested and received permission from Commander Pierce, to conduct a last minute patrol of Toyama Wan, a bay farther up the Honshu Coast. She was never heard from again. Post war Japanese records revealed Bonefish torpedoed and sunk a cargo ship in Toyama Wan and subsequent counterattack by Jap escorts, Bonefish was sunk by depth charges leaving a large area of oil and debris. 85 souls lost. Bonefish earned Navy Unit commendations for her 1st, 3rd, 4th, 5th and 6th war patrols and 7 battle stars for her WW 2 service. Note: Whole story can be read in the book "Hellcats", the epic story of WW2's most daring submarine raid, by Peter Sasgen.

June 20, 1941 USS 0-9 (ss-70). After protecting the North Atlantic during WW1, the O-9 was recalled as a training submarine in April 1941, due to the escalating events leading to a possible WW2 outbreak. On the morning of June 20th, the 0-9, along with 2 sister 0 class training subs, left Portsmouth New Hampshire for practice dives. All 3 dived, but the 0-9 never surfaced. The depth was 450 feet and considered too risky at the time to continue any rescue. 33 souls lost. On September 20, 1997, the 0-9 was located on the bottom at 450 feet, the hull crushed from the conning tower back to the stern. The bow was intact. There are no plans to salvage 0-9 and remains a Naval burial ground.

..........NEVER FORGET !

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Post by: mack on June 02, 2012, 08:32:26 PM
Sailors RIP.

Here is an old video - WWII submarine service: Submarine Service WWII (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyRO8EVBTEw#)
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Post by: 68jk09 on June 04, 2012, 10:55:50 PM
http://www.ufanyc.org/cms/contents/view/10501 (http://www.ufanyc.org/cms/contents/view/10501) ................  ............. Vinnys Dad was my 1st LT. when i came OTJ.....i sold young Vinny his 1st car.....I was a BC assigned to Jamaica Hosp early the next day when he was pronounced surrounded by his Family & many Members of 234/123 where he was appt..... almost everyday OTJ is a great day.....this was not one of them....... he was a front runner for my previous spot in 126......His Brother John has since Retired & his other Brother Andy still carries on.......CONTINUED REST IN PEACE VINNY.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         http://www.citylimits.org/news/articles/4421/when-fire-wins-causes-of-fdny-deaths (http://www.citylimits.org/news/articles/4421/when-fire-wins-causes-of-fdny-deaths)


Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on June 04, 2012, 11:46:03 PM
6-5-98 ATLANTIC AV FIRE.
http://www.fdnewyork.com/5555766.asp (http://www.fdnewyork.com/5555766.asp)
http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/events/2008/060608a.shtml (http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/html/events/2008/060608a.shtml)
CONTINUED REST IN PEACE NEVER FORGET !
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on June 04, 2012, 11:46:40 PM
http://www.fdnewyork.com/99228943.asp (http://www.fdnewyork.com/99228943.asp)

RIP
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on June 06, 2012, 10:04:44 PM
June 6 - Anniversary of DDay - 6 June 1944:

http://www.army.mil/d-day/ (http://www.army.mil/d-day/)

D-Day 6/6/44 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPU4p7UQOtU#)
Omaha Beach, D-Day, 6 June 1944 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31nt2fsMORU#)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: nfd2004 on June 07, 2012, 06:06:05 AM
Thanks "mack" for posting this. Its very sad, but a lot of people have forgotten what "D" Day was.

  I know my brother George, and I didn't. We were talking about it the other day. How those young American Soldiers gave up so much so we all can be Free.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on June 07, 2012, 06:19:24 PM
Excellent D DAY post......Thanks to ALL ......continued RIP to those who passed to a higher level .
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on June 08, 2012, 01:49:50 AM
http://nyfd.com/history/kitchen.html (http://nyfd.com/history/kitchen.html)       ........The 1st picture is Alex Donchin famous FDNY photog & lifelong Buff who authored the great pictorial book "First Due"......Al was also a Staff Chief in NY Sanitation.....any $$ he got from selling his photos to newspapers he threw on the table for a meal at ENG*230/SQ*3 his home away from home.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on June 08, 2012, 04:52:36 PM
6-8-87.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident)             
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Post by: FDNY150 on June 14, 2012, 12:30:31 AM
Just a side note from the first pdf posted. Sol Elbaum was my boss on a few tours when I came in the job back in 97. He passed recently.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: firstdue2dq on June 17, 2012, 10:09:46 PM
It's so interesting to see how much bushwick has changed from being run down and burnt out...some of the busiest companies in the world ran the streets of BK now hippie girls I graduated HS with live there alone at 18 years old off mom and dads $$$$ anyways thanks for posting these links!
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on June 18, 2012, 11:37:55 PM
http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/06/more-historic-photos-from-the-nyc-municipal-archives/100318/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/06/more-historic-photos-from-the-nyc-municipal-archives/100318/)                              ......................Some more NYC Municipal archive photos.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on June 22, 2012, 02:28:32 AM
http://www.thefadedpast.com/ (http://www.thefadedpast.com/)                    ..........Some old BKLYN shots .
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on July 01, 2012, 04:49:56 PM
http://bed-stuy.patch.com/articles/fire-hydrant-fun-969eeb8c (http://bed-stuy.patch.com/articles/fire-hydrant-fun-969eeb8c)        ........Fire Hydrants.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on July 03, 2012, 12:40:11 AM
Please take a few moments and pray for the 212 souls lost during the month of July of the forgotten men of our silent service during WW II. These gallant men are now lying entombed inside sunken submarines across the Pacific Ocean and are On The Eternal Patrol. Their faces can be viewed by linking to the following website www.oneternalpatrol.com (http://www.oneternalpatrol.com)

July 1, 1943 USS Runner (ss-275) On May 27th, Runner departed Midway Island on her 3rd patrol. She headed for the Kuril Islands chain and waters off northern Japan. She was never heard from again. Captured Japanese records indicated she sank a cargo ship on June 11th and another on June 26th off Kuril Islands. It is unknown how she met her fate was declared lost on July 1st. 78 souls lost. Runner received 1 battle star for her WW2 service.

July 4, 1944, USS S-28(ss-133). First commissioned in 1923, she conducted a total of 7 war patrols in the pacific and was 1 of the first US submarines to encounter Japanese antisubmarine tactics. During her career, she suffered from numerous mechanical problems ,torpedo misses and malfunctions. She met her fate by unknown means while training, conducting anti-submarine exercises with the USCG in Hawaiian waters off Oahu. 2 days later a slick of diesel fuel appeared in the area but the extreme depth exceeded the range of available rescue equipment. 50 souls lost. S-28 had received 1 battle star for her WW2 service.

July 26, 1944, USS Robalo (ss-273). On June 22, Robalo departed Fremantle Australia on her 3rd patrol. She was assigned to patrol the South China Sea vicinity of Natuna Islands. After transiting Makassar and Balabac Strait (which was well-known to be mined), she was scheduled to arrive on station around July 6th. But on July 2nd she sent a message spotting a Jap battleship convoy east of Borneo. No other messages were ever received from her again. On August 2nd, a note was dropped from a window of a secluded cell of a Japanese prison camp on Palawan Island, Philippines and picked up by another American POW. He managed to pass it on to Filipino guerrillas, furnishing info on 4 survivors. The note stated the Robalo was struck by a mine off the coast of Palawan Island and only 4 men managed to swim ashore. They made their way through the jungles to a small barrier northwest of the prison camp but were eventually captured and imprisoned for "guerrilla activities". On August 15th, the 4 prisoners were transported off the island by a Japanese Destroyer, never to be heard from again. 84 souls lost. Robalo earned 2 battle stars for her WW 2 service.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on July 07, 2012, 02:47:09 AM
Watkins St july '67...most probably after one of the  Support Our Troops rallies many organized by Ray Gimmler UFOA.....Thanks to all it was certainly appreciated by us ...i know i will NEVER FORGET !.......                                                                                                                       http://mail.aol.com/36478-211/aol-6/en-us/mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=30176020&folder=NewMail&partId=3 (http://mail.aol.com/36478-211/aol-6/en-us/mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=30176020&folder=NewMail&partId=3)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on July 07, 2012, 08:30:23 PM
http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1b/Chino/Chino.html (http://home.comcast.net/~bzee1b/Chino/Chino.html)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: svd385 on July 07, 2012, 10:26:58 PM
There are a good number of planes shown in the post, and I would say, if allowed, there are  several historic planes that would appear on my bucket list, if I found possible to do so.  Talk about great designs, field modifications and just the beauty of these birds in flight.
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Post by: fdce54 on July 08, 2012, 12:45:30 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: R1SmokeEater on July 09, 2012, 01:29:51 PM
http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnskelson/sets/72157630467547756/detail/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/johnskelson/sets/72157630467547756/detail/)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 03, 2012, 02:55:11 AM


Please take a few moments and pray for the 306 souls lost during the month of August of the forgotten men of our silent service during WW II. These gallant men are now lying entombed inside sunken submarines across the Pacific Ocean and are On The Eternal Patrol. Their faces can be viewed by linking to the following website www.oneternalpatrol.com (http://www.oneternalpatrol.com)

August 1, 1942 USS Grunion (ss-216) On June 30th, Grunion departed Hawaii, heading for the Aleutian Islands for her 1st war patrol. She operated off Kiska throughout July sinking 2 Jap patrol boats and suffered intensive Japanese Anti-submarine attacks. On July 30th contact was made for her to return back to Dutch Harbor. Grunion was never heard from again. 70 souls lost. Her fate remained a mystery until 65 years later. On August 23, 2007, after extensive research and co-operation with a Japanese War historian, the 3 surviving sons of the commanding officer of the Grunion found their fathers submarine, intact on the ocean floor, in the Bering Sea, at a depth of 3,300 feet. The Japanese historian determined, the sub attacked the troop transport Kano Maru, firing 4 torpedoes. Only 1 hit and detonated. The sub surfaced to finish off the ship. However, the Kano Maru quickly returned fire with a 3inch deck gun scoring 1 direct hit on the conning tower, sinking the sub with no survivors.

August 6, 1945, USS Bullhead (ss-332). On July 31st, Bullhead departed Fremantle Australia on her 3rd war patrol. Her orders were to patrol in a 3 sub wolf pack in the Java Sea and Subic Bay in the Philippines. On August 6th, Bullhead reported she passed through Lombok Strait. That was the last word ever heard from her. Post war Jap records revealed she possibly met her fate via a Mitsubishi bomber attack, claiming 2 direct hits on a surface submarine in the same area Bullhead last reported from. 84 souls lost. Bullhead received 2 battles stars for her WW2.

August 13, 1944, USS Flier (ss-250). On August 2nd, Flier departed Fremantle Australia for her 2nd war patrol, sailing for the coast of Indochina via the Lombok, Macassar and Balabac Straits. On the night of August 13th, while transiting Balabac Strait on the surface, she struck a mine and sank within 30 seconds. Only 14 of the 86 crewmen bailed out of the sub, and, of them, 8 survived the swim ashore. Friendly natives guided them to a coast watcher, who arranged for them to be picked up by submarine , USS Redfin, on August 31st. In 1998, the last surviving crewmen of the 8 who swam ashore, Ensign Alvin Jacobson JR, along with his 2 sons, traveled back to the Philippines, met with the former guerrillas who saved his life. They ventured out in a boat to where he thought the USS Flier had gone down, changing declassified US Navy co-ordinates of the supposed sinking area. In 2008 Alvin Jacobson JR died at 86, leaving behind to his sons, an extensive life of research, trying to find his lost shipmates. The family continued the quest and on February 1, 2009, the US Navy announced the discovery of the USS Flier resting in 330 feet of water, at the exact spot were Ensign Alvin Jacobson JR said it lies. (Watch the Smithsonian Channel on 5-1-2011 8pm , discovery of the USS Flier)

August 24, 1944, USS Harder (ss-257). On August 5th, The most famous Jap destroyer killer, USS Harder departed from Fremantle Australia for her 6th war patrol, assigned with 4 other submarines in a wolf pack headed north to the South China Sea off Luzon. Up until August 24th, the group had sunk 9 vessels and severely damaged a Jap destroyer. At Dawn, August 24th, off Dasol Bay, USS Harder engaged a Jap destroyer ,which turned out to be a captured and converted 1920's US Destroyer-ex USS Stewart(DD-224). She was hit with 15 rapid depth charges, which ended the Harder’s career with all hands. 80 souls lost. Harder received 6 battle stars and the Presidential Unit Citation for her WW2 service.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on August 04, 2012, 09:56:51 AM
Sailors lost on USS Harder:
http://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-harder-257.htm (http://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-harder-257.htm)

Sailors lost on USS Flier:
http://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-flier-250.htm (http://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-flier-250.htm)

Sailors lost on USS Bullhead:
http://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-bullhead-332.htm (http://www.oneternalpatrol.com/uss-bullhead-332.htm)
USS Harder - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Harder_(SS-257) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Harder_(SS-257))
Final patrol:
http://www.subsowespac.org/world_war_ii_submarines/uss_bullhead_ss_332.shtml (http://www.subsowespac.org/world_war_ii_submarines/uss_bullhead_ss_332.shtml)

USS Grunion - final patrol:
http://www.subsowespac.org/world_war_ii_submarines/uss_grunion_ss_216.shtml (http://www.subsowespac.org/world_war_ii_submarines/uss_grunion_ss_216.shtml)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 30, 2012, 10:12:35 PM
USMC THOUGHTS ...........                                                                                                                                                                                http://www.grunt.com/corps/newsletter/7729/?utm_source=sgnews&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nlsgB083012 (http://www.grunt.com/corps/newsletter/7729/?utm_source=sgnews&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nlsgB083012)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on September 27, 2012, 06:01:17 AM
I know this was posted here before by one of the posters but i just thought due to the excellent content i would re-post it for those who may not have viewed it before.......     A great collection of FDNY history by FF George Tufte FDNY Photo Unit........ to really view each photo in his extensive collection after clicking on "SLIDESHOW" on the upper left i would suggest slowing the speed of the slides to about 10 seconds each by using the plus / minus icons at the bottom of the screen....while viewing note some of the Nozzles & tips used in these pictures from a different era........  http://picasaweb.google.com/FDNY614/FDNYInTheBravestTradition?authkey=Gv1sRgCKO01cb02ejCZA&feat=email# (http://picasaweb.google.com/FDNY614/FDNYInTheBravestTradition?authkey=Gv1sRgCKO01cb02ejCZA&feat=email#)


Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on October 03, 2012, 12:14:29 AM


Please take a few moments and pray for the 561 souls lost during the month of October of the forgotten men of our silent service during WW II. These gallant men are now lying entombed inside sunken submarines across the Pacific Ocean and are On The Eternal Patrol. Their faces can be viewed by linking to the following website www.oneternalpatrol.com (http://www.oneternalpatrol.com)

October 3, 1944, USS Seawolf (ss-197). On September 21, Seawolf departed Brisbane Australia on her 15th war patrol, bound for Manus Island. On September 29th, she reached Manus Island, refueled and sailed the same day carrying supplies and 17 army personnel to the east coast of Samar. On October 3rd, she exchanged radar signals with the US Sub Narwhal (ss-167) in a US Navy designated submarine safety zone near the Morotai area. But nearby, at about the same time, the Japanese sub Ro-4I, attacked a US convoy sinking the US Destroyer USS Shelton. A US plane from Midway spotted a submarine in the safety zone submerging and dropped 2 bombs on her anyway. Marking the area with die. The US Destroyer USS Richard M. Rowell proceeded over the submerged submarine, heard a series of dashes and dots on their sonar that made no sense. They believed the sub was trying to jam their sonar, so they dropped hedgehog charges which followed with underwater explosions and debris rising to the surface. This is believed to be the demise of the Seawolf. 102 souls lost (85 crew members and 17 army personnel). The Seawolf received 13 battle stars for sinking 71,609 tons of Jap shipping during WW2.

October 7, 1943, USS S-44 (ss-155). On September 26th, the S-44 departed Dutch Harbor on her 5th and last patrol. On the night of October 7th, west of the northern Kuril Islands, she made radar contact with what she thought was a small merchantmen and closed in for a surface attack. In fact, the small ship was a Jap Destroyer Ishigaki, which opened fire with a deck gun, striking the S-44 in the control room and forward battery room. The S-44 raised a white flag and abandoned ship, but the Jap Destroyer continued firing. Only 2 men survived the sinking and were captured. They were sent to the secret Jap Naval Interrogation Camp at Ofuna and tortured. They spent the last year of WW2 in the Ashio copper mines of Japan before being repatriated by Allied forces at the end of the war. 56 souls lost. S-44 earned 2 battle stars for WW2.

October 11, 1943 USS Wahoo (ss-238). On September 13th, probably the most famous US Submarine of WW2, The USS Wahoo, left Midway Island with a fresh load of the new Mark 18 electric torpedo’s, (rather than the problematic defective Mark 14 steam torpedo’s) and headed for the Sea of Japan via La Perouse Strait. Commander "Mush" Morton was reluctantly given permission to enter and hunt in the Sea of Japan, since his last patrols were marred with constant torpedo failures. The Plan was for Wahoo to enter the Sea Of Japan on Sept 20th, followed days later by the USS Sawfish. The Wahoo disappeared. Post war Japanese records revealed from Oct 5th to the 11th, a sub sank 4 ships in that area totaling 13,000 tons. On Oct 11th, a Jap anti-sub plane spotted a submerged submarine trailing oil. A combined air and sea attack was commenced, apparently sinking the submarine with all hands. 79 souls lost. In any case, the Wahoo was never heard from again. Until- July 28, 2006, a team of Russian deep sea divers lead by the "Wahoo project" (family of missing crew members), and a retired Japanese Admiral, found her intact, sitting on the bottom of the La Perouse Strait, at 213 feet. The site is now a designated war memorial. The Wahoo earned 6 battle stars for her WW2 service. Note: Read the book "Wahoo: The patrols of America’s most famous submarine", by Richard O’Kane

 

October 12, 1943 USS Dorado (ss-248). On October 6th, with all her sea trials proven successful, Dorado sailed from New London Conn, bound for the Panama Canal. She never made it. On October 12th, a US PBM Mariner patrol plane out of Guantanamo Bay Cuba, attacked a submarine on the surface that it believed was outside the restricted area with three Mark-47 depth charges and a 100 lb bomb. About 2 hrs later, the plane sited a second sub and tried to exchange recognition signals. This second submarine opened fire on the plane. Post war German records revealed the 2nd submarine that fired on the plane was U-Boat U-518, and was laying fresh mines in the area. . Dorado was never heard from again and it is believed either the US Plane sunk her with the depth charges and bomb or she detonated one of the U-Boats, fresh laid mines. 78 souls lost - Note- Dorado soon to be discovered due to 1970's reports by passing commercial aircraft, of a submarine conning tower that sticks up from the sandy bottom just off the coast of Mexico, a handy reference point for pilots. However, since the 1970's, drifting sand has covered the site. This possibly supports the theory that the 1st bombing killed the crew, but left the boat drifting along the bottom of the Caribbean Sea until she grounded in shallow water near the coast.

October 17, 1944 USS Escolar (ss-294) On September 18th, Escolar left Midway on her 1st war patrol, bound for the Yellow Sea. The Escolar was teemed up with the USS Croaker and USS Perch under Commander Millican, leading a coordinated attack designated "Millican’s Marauders". On Sept 30th, when Escolar was estimated to be north of Bonin Islands, a listening post received a partial message from Escolar stating, " attacked with deck gun boat similar to Ex-Italian Peter George Five OTYI". Escolar was forced to break off transmission and the engagement with the gunboat. The USS Perch and Croaker reported they received intra-ship communications with Escolar until October 17th, reporting her last position and coarse. Escolar was never heard or seen again. 82 souls lost. No information could be gleaned from post war Japanese records, but it was known, the Yellow Sea was mined.

On October 24, 1944 USS Shark (ss-314). The Shark was lost during her 3rd war patrol, probably in the vicinity of Luzon Strait, while participating in a co-ordinated attack group with submarines USS Sea dragon (ss-194) and Blackfish (ss-221). On the 24th, Shark radioed she had made radar contact with a single freighter and was going in for the attack. She was never heard or seen again. 90 souls lost. Post war Japanese records revealed the single freighter was actually the Japanese Destroyer Harukaze ,who found the Shark submerged and dropped more than 20 depth charges, resulting in bubbles, heavy oil, cloths and cork, coming to the surface. The Shark received 1 battle star for her WW2 service. Note: The book Up Periscope is about the USS Shark

October 25, 1944 USS Tang (ss-306). On September 24th, USS Tang, Commanded by Congressional Medal Of Honor recipient ,Lt. Commander Richard H. O’Kane (former xo of the USS Wahoo before she disappeared) ,left Midway Island on her 5th war patrol, which turned out to be her last and most famous submarine patrol of WW 2. On September 27th, she sailed for the Formosa Strait. The Tang was never heard from again. - Until - the end of WW2, when Lt Commander O’Kane was rescued from a Japanese prison camp by Allied forces , 90 lbs and one week from dying. He along with 8 crewman survived the destruction of the Tang, telling an incredible story, which can be read in the book "The Bravest Man" Richard O’Kane and the amazing submarine adventures of the USS Tang. In short, from Oct 11 to Oct 25, Tang sunk 10 Japanese vessels from 2 convoys. One transport remained afloat and dead in the water. Tang fired her last torpedo to finish off the transport and the torpedo circled back, striking the Tang in the stern, causing a violent explosion. The Tang sank by the stern and bottomed at 180 feet. Of the 9 men on the bridge, only 4 were able to swim through the night before being picked up eight hrs later. There were survivors still trapped inside the Tang. Escape was delayed by constant depth charging and battling an intense electrical fire that was melting the interior bulkheads. Some crewman gave up on their fate and simply went into there bunks to sleep, refusing to try the Momsen Lung. 13 crew members eventually escaped from the forward room using the Momsen lung and only 5 made it to the surface. The 9 were picked up by a Japanese Destroyer and placed with victim’s of Tang’s recent handy work, who were also rescued. The 9 American Submariners were brutally beaten through-out their voyage. The 9 eventually wound up at the secret Japanese Naval Interrogation Camp for captured US submariners at Ofuna, where Lt Commander O’Kane received extra beatings and tortured, but never divulged any US Intelligence. All 9 survived the end of the war. 74 souls lost. The Tang received 4 battles stars and 2 Presidential Unit Citations for her WW2 service. She was credited with sinking 31 ships in 5 war patrols which remains unequaled to this day.

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on December 15, 2012, 09:26:55 PM
ENG*53 INTERNATIONAL PUMPER......   http://www.elbarriosbravest.com/pics/DK%20&%20Friend%20E53.jpg (http://www.elbarriosbravest.com/pics/DK%20&%20Friend%20E53.jpg)                                                                                                                                       .............................................................................................                                                                                                                                                           http://www.elbarriosbravest.com/pics/DK%20In%20E53.jpg (http://www.elbarriosbravest.com/pics/DK%20In%20E53.jpg)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on December 15, 2012, 11:15:18 PM
  I remember that rig regularly coming to relocate @E60. E53 was always relocating to E60 up until around 1970-71 when E312 took over.  Companies that had this type of rig originally assigned to them were: 35, 53, 58, 59, 69, 73, 91, 94, 283 & 290. One was crushed by a wall collapse in Harlem where L40 lost their '63 Seagrave tiller. E283's was in a major accident with their's and a few years later E294 had one that was involved in a gasoline fire inside quarters resulting in severe injuries to a firefighter. 
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 10, 2013, 04:45:02 AM
An outrageous tour of years gone by in 5 parts ...1490 to 1920...... take some time to look at it & show it to a youngster.... http://fineprintnyc.com/blog/evolution-of-new-york-city-part-1-1490-1900 (http://fineprintnyc.com/blog/evolution-of-new-york-city-part-1-1490-1900)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on January 10, 2013, 11:25:07 AM
Thanks Chief - an interesting walk thru time.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 28, 2013, 06:14:58 PM
THE HINDENBURG........ http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/05/75-years-since-the-hindenburg-disaster/100292/ (http://www.theatlantic.com/infocus/2012/05/75-years-since-the-hindenburg-disaster/100292/)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on January 28, 2013, 06:41:30 PM
Thanks Chief - I don't know if this is the same video is contains the moving broadcast of the explosion:

Hindenburg disaster (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F54rqDh2mWA#)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 29, 2013, 03:33:44 PM
http://fineprintnyc.com/blog/evolution-of-new-york-city-part-8-1930-1935 (http://fineprintnyc.com/blog/evolution-of-new-york-city-part-8-1930-1935)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 04, 2013, 09:20:19 PM
http://fineprintnyc.com/blog/evolution-of-new-york-city-part-13-1955-1960 (http://fineprintnyc.com/blog/evolution-of-new-york-city-part-13-1955-1960)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on April 14, 2013, 03:22:08 AM
 
I KNOW THESE ARE E BAY ITEMS BUT I THOUGHT THEY SHOULD BE POSTED HERE AS A FEW ARE REALLY SOME GOOD HISTORY....Photo # 1 is a mid '60s BC's Dodge Station Wagon .....#3 is not important but as an explanation it is a bogus rig from the tv show third watch.....#5 is a mid Fifties R*2 Rig......# 8 is the '82 American La France R*2 Rig.......#17 is the Fire Salvage outside of what was their qtrs at the time until R*2 moved there in Aug '85 it is still R*2s present qtrs...it was the former qtrs of ENG*234 & BN*38 until they moved to thier present qtrs w/LAD*123 4 blocks South on St Johns Place.........# 21 is the only "yellow Rig" from the batch of experimental "lime green" Rigs ..65s was an ALF the other lime green ones were Macks........# 27 is LAD*14s American La France two of a kind (in the FDNY 163 had the other one) Rig........ some nice FDNY history pictures............. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-PHOTO-SET-THIRTY-30-4X6-COLOR-FIRE-APPARATUS-PHOTOS-L-K-/190821241667?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6dd51343 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-PHOTO-SET-THIRTY-30-4X6-COLOR-FIRE-APPARATUS-PHOTOS-L-K-/190821241667?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6dd51343)
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Post by: 68jk09 on April 16, 2013, 07:46:24 PM
1966 photo of FDNY Water Tender # 1.......                                                                                                                    http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Water-Tender-1-1947-Ward-La-France-1962-shops-conversion-color-slide-/121093338316?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c31b9b4cc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Water-Tender-1-1947-Ward-La-France-1962-shops-conversion-color-slide-/121093338316?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c31b9b4cc)
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Post by: 68jk09 on May 06, 2013, 03:04:28 AM
1940s NYC.......    1940 New York City (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ed0Chh7KADA#)
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Post by: 68jk09 on June 06, 2013, 05:20:31 PM
Washington Heights plane landings......                                                                                                                           http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/04/long-ago-a-pilot-landed-on-an-uptown-street-thats-where-the-bar-was/?ref=nyregion (http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/04/long-ago-a-pilot-landed-on-an-uptown-street-thats-where-the-bar-was/?ref=nyregion)
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Post by: 68jk09 on June 09, 2013, 03:18:09 PM
OLD FALLOUT SHELTER.......                                                                                                                                                                         http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/07/chris-colleen-otcasek-fallout-shelter_n_3405077.html?ncid=webmail1 (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/07/chris-colleen-otcasek-fallout-shelter_n_3405077.html?ncid=webmail1)
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Post by: 68jk09 on June 12, 2013, 07:35:48 PM
R*2 1982 ALF/SAULSBURY AFTER RE-LETTERING BY DAVE SMITH FROM GRAND RAPIDS MICH.......... http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-RESCUE-CO-2-1982-AMERICAN-LAFRANCE-CTC-SAULSBURY-BODY-HEAVY-RESCUE-L-K-/190852959466?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6fb90cea (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-RESCUE-CO-2-1982-AMERICAN-LAFRANCE-CTC-SAULSBURY-BODY-HEAVY-RESCUE-L-K-/190852959466?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c6fb90cea)
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Post by: 68jk09 on June 25, 2013, 06:51:04 PM
LAD*54 Mack Tiller......     http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-4x-6-Photo-Mack-C-Tiller-Ladder-54-/271227675619?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f266de3e3 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-4x-6-Photo-Mack-C-Tiller-Ladder-54-/271227675619?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f266de3e3)
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Post by: memory master on June 25, 2013, 07:08:28 PM
That rig was formerly assigned to L117 and was given to L54 when the company was established in the "new" quarters with E96 on Story Ave. That was 1965? Jeez I was there for the firehouse dedication and can't remember the year. (Don't say it guys, I know.)
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Post by: 68jk09 on June 25, 2013, 07:25:50 PM
LAD*38 1956 ALF.. the photo was proabably taken mid to late '60s since the plywood covering is in place......     http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-4x-6-Photo-ALF-Ladder-38-/271228145083?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f26750dbb (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-4x-6-Photo-ALF-Ladder-38-/271228145083?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f26750dbb)
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Post by: soda-acid on June 25, 2013, 08:29:20 PM
Looks like they were running that rig as a spare since the only 38 is on the front.
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Post by: guitarman314 on June 25, 2013, 10:54:37 PM
LAD*38 1956 ALF.. the photo was proabably taken mid to late '60s since the plywood covering is in place......     http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-4x-6-Photo-ALF-Ladder-38-/271228145083?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f26750dbb (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-4x-6-Photo-ALF-Ladder-38-/271228145083?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f26750dbb)
  The 1956 ALF in the photo was previously L47's rig. It was L38's then went to L49 when L38 got a 1969 100 ft. ALF diesel rig. Before the '56, Ladder 38 had a 1953 ALF that was involved in a bad MVA around 1964. The tractor was totalled and the trailer was re-hitched to a 1948 Ward LaFrance tractor and assigned to the Training School on Welfare (Roosevelt today) Island. Regarding the photo: It was taken between 1967 & 1969 across the street from Ladder 17's quarters on 143rd St. The NYCHA Mott Haven Houses buildings behind it are 352 & 380 E. 143rd St.
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Post by: Bronx72 on July 08, 2013, 11:28:17 PM
L54 got the 1960 Mack C85F 85' tractor-drawn  Maxim aerial on 4-13-66 when they were organized on Story Ave.  They had that rig until 12-3-70 when they received a new Seagrave rearmount.  That was a good ten years work before FDNY had term limits on their rigs.
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Post by: 68jk09 on July 12, 2013, 04:18:22 AM
ENG*82.....    http://ouroldneighborhood.com/bxpc/bxpc6/Engine82FDNY%20ntervale&169th.jpg (http://ouroldneighborhood.com/bxpc/bxpc6/Engine82FDNY%20ntervale&169th.jpg)
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Post by: 68jk09 on July 20, 2013, 02:00:35 AM
ENG*82 ..AUG 1977....   http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Vintage-Photo-Engine-Co-82-Bronx-New-York/141019224840?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D15934%26meid%3D9199206170400761336%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D7611%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D141019224840%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Vintage-Photo-Engine-Co-82-Bronx-New-York/141019224840?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D15934%26meid%3D9199206170400761336%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D7611%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D141019224840%26)
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Post by: 68jk09 on July 20, 2013, 02:04:30 AM
LAD*31..AUG 1977.....    http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Vintage-Photo-Ladder-Co-31-Bronx-New-York/141019271627?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D15934%26meid%3D9199352298712906207%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D7611%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D141019224840%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Vintage-Photo-Ladder-Co-31-Bronx-New-York/141019271627?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D15934%26meid%3D9199352298712906207%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D7611%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D141019224840%26)
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Post by: 68jk09 on July 21, 2013, 03:34:32 AM
7-20-69......     http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_11)
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Post by: pasobuff on July 22, 2013, 10:54:47 AM
Some old pictures I recently acquired from my father - his great-uncle Lindgren most probably took these pictures - dated 1952.....

I have more, just need to get good copies of them.... :)
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Post by: memory master on July 22, 2013, 01:56:09 PM
They look nice. Hope you can put more up for all to enjoy and remember back then. Thanks.
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Post by: pasobuff on July 22, 2013, 02:10:25 PM
They look nice. Hope you can put more up for all to enjoy and remember back then. Thanks.

The album is in the hands of someone from the NYS Museum to have the photos copied and digitized...I will then share away!  I am also waiting on photos of an old scrapbook I have, with TONS of material dating back into the 1800's regarding the Volunteer Firemans' Association of New York City!
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Post by: mack on July 22, 2013, 02:36:34 PM
Thanks Paosbuff
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Post by: Bronx72 on July 22, 2013, 07:05:54 PM
That sounds exciting!  Nothing like a good scrapbook.
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Post by: pasobuff on July 23, 2013, 11:08:00 AM
A couple more pictures....
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Post by: memory master on July 23, 2013, 03:00:11 PM
That looks like 251's quad and quarters on Union Turnpike in Glen Oaks, Queens.
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Post by: 68jk09 on July 26, 2013, 08:46:20 PM
Plane into the Empire State Bldg 1945......  Bomber Crashes into Empire State Building, July 1945 [Full Resolution] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD69sP51u-s#)
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Post by: ******* on July 27, 2013, 09:21:27 AM
The Empire State building was built under what became the 1938 NYC Building Code. A cubic foot of construction material weighed approx. 24 pounds. The World Trade Center was built under the 1968 NYC Building Code. A cubic foot of construction material weighed approx. 8 pounds. We would joke at times that unlike the Empire Building crash a bomber hitting a 68 code building would just fly into it cross the floor and out the other side. They won't show the 9/11 video's of the planes hitting the towers any longer but if you remember the planes actually flew into the building and then exploded inside. If they had hit the Empire State most of the plane probably would have fell to the street. They also banked the planes before hitting the towers so they would impact on multiple floors, this would have greatly increased the "wall" they would have hit doing the same with the Empire State. Building codes are changed to save money with new found construction material(s) and application, fire safety is given little consideration, only when mandated and after lengthy fights.
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Post by: 68jk09 on July 28, 2013, 01:51:18 AM
".........." Thank You for that info on the construction....it is a shame that Fire & Life safety is not paramount.
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Post by: 68jk09 on July 28, 2013, 01:51:51 AM
http://www.ny1.com/content/features/6944/july-28th-in-nyc-history?ap=1&MP4 (http://www.ny1.com/content/features/6944/july-28th-in-nyc-history?ap=1&MP4)
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Post by: memory master on July 28, 2013, 08:11:56 AM
68 years ago today! My dad had a small piece (fist size) of the plane's engine in his drawer at home. When he passed away in 1987 my mom was cleaning stuff out and I asked her where that piece was and her reply was "Oh, I threw that junk out."  Oh well :(
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Post by: johnd248 on July 28, 2013, 09:48:09 AM
I believe a couple of plane parts are on display in the quarters of the Fire Bell Club on East 23rd Street.
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Post by: 68jk09 on August 01, 2013, 04:21:04 AM
FFs PREPARING TO RAISE AERIAL IN 1944 TIMES SQUARE TO SECURE TORCH ON THE STATUE......   http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-YORK-CITY-FIRE-FIGHTERS-IN-TIMES-SQUARE-1944-/330973528659?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0f8f4253 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-YORK-CITY-FIRE-FIGHTERS-IN-TIMES-SQUARE-1944-/330973528659?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d0f8f4253)
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Post by: 68jk09 on August 04, 2013, 03:21:01 AM
LAD*31 TURNING OUT FROM QTRS......   http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Vintage-Photo-Ladder-Co-31-Bronx-New-York-/141029024302?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d5fc222e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Vintage-Photo-Ladder-Co-31-Bronx-New-York-/141029024302?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d5fc222e)
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Post by: 68jk09 on August 04, 2013, 03:52:20 AM
BN*27 in a Plymouth Gran Fury Wagon back in the day turning out from Intervale Ave w/82 & 31 (after BN*3 moved to Seneca Ave w/94 & 48).....in the Sixties BN*3 who was originally on Intervale Ave had a Second Section which became the 27 & later moved up to their present qtrs on Briggs Ave w/ENG*79 & LAD*37...... www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Vintage-Photo-Battalion-27-Bronx-New-York-/141029025054?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d5fc251e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Vintage-Photo-Battalion-27-Bronx-New-York-/141029025054?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d5fc251e)

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Post by: 68jk09 on August 04, 2013, 04:25:14 AM
ENG*82 w/some of the Company riding the back step...judging from the "wear & melt" uniforms probably around 1974......note the upside down stripped ADV on the left common along the roadside back then..... www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Vintage-Photo-Engine-Co-82-Bronx-New-York-/141029025725?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d5fc27bd (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Vintage-Photo-Engine-Co-82-Bronx-New-York-/141029025725?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20d5fc27bd)

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Post by: ******* on August 04, 2013, 01:47:42 PM
The firefighter pictured in 31 is Tom Kennedy, retired as a DC many years ago. The BC responding with the 27 is Chief Manning (RIP). 82's picture is from left to right Phil Vargos (RIP) drove Lt. Andrade for many years, the tall guy with his back to camera would have to guess that it is Charlie McCarthy L31, and the ff on the end looks like Danny Gainey (RIP), later transferred into 31. My guess would be that the picture is before 74, probably around 70 or 71.
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Post by: 68jk09 on August 12, 2013, 02:19:15 AM
15 old pictures superimposed w/modern day exposures....# 8 is the Wooster St Fire & collapse that claimed the lives of 2 FDNY FFs & 4 NY Fire Patrol members........        http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/new-york-city-lens-news-gallery-1.1420501#pmSlide=0 (http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/new-york-city-lens-news-gallery-1.1420501#pmSlide=0)
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Post by: 68jk09 on August 14, 2013, 01:34:07 AM
NYC 1970 TO 1989.....  http://superchief.tv/80-photos-of-old-new-york-1970-1989/ (http://superchief.tv/80-photos-of-old-new-york-1970-1989/)
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Post by: fdny1075k on August 14, 2013, 03:07:31 PM
NYC 1970 TO 1989.....  http://superchief.tv/80-photos-of-old-new-york-1970-1989/ (http://superchief.tv/80-photos-of-old-new-york-1970-1989/)
Amazing how much the city's changed from what it was 30-40 years ago. Particularly areas like the South Bronx and Times Square.

My father remembers going in and out of Grand Central coming down from CT and going out to concerts at the Garden. Not exactly what you would call safe. Port Authority Bus Terminal was even worse.
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Post by: nfd2004 on August 14, 2013, 06:41:45 PM
NYC 1970 TO 1989.....  http://superchief.tv/80-photos-of-old-new-york-1970-1989/ (http://superchief.tv/80-photos-of-old-new-york-1970-1989/)
Amazing how much the city's changed from what it was 30-40 years ago. Particularly areas like the South Bronx and Times Square.

My father remembers going in and out of Grand Central coming down from CT and going out to concerts at the Garden. Not exactly what you would call safe. Port Authority Bus Terminal was even worse.

  Looking at those pictures today, it's hard to believe that things were so bad then.

  Recently myself and Bxboro took a ride through some of the streets in the South Bronx and Harlem. Streets that were once all looking like these photos. There would be blocks of vacant or burned out buildings. On our visit, we saw ONE VACANT 4 brick. And that will probably be rehabbed soon.

  In the area of the police pct, I think it's the 42 where they filmed part of the movie "Fort Apache the Bronx" there was once an old large vacant courthouse building. That is gone and replaced with a high rise glass building that I believe is used by a college. It has green lawns and water spraying from a fountain.

  A little ways from there at the lower end of Webster Ave is what used to be an old abondoned factory that was the scene of many fires. That has been made into a Days Inn Motel. There is no burned out cars, no piles of rubbish, no graffiti.

  Whatever somebody did to change things so much from the 70s and 80s, to what it is today, they sure did something right. And if they can do it in NYC, they can do it today in Detroit.
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Post by: minerva14road on August 14, 2013, 10:39:41 PM
Believe it or not, I live near the 42 Pct. The closest fire alarm box to my residence is 2323. I believe the street used to be referred to as 'gasoline alley' during the way years. I recall reading here that 2323 was one of the busier boxes during those years.

The old vacant court house is still there, where St. Ann's Ave and Third Ave meet, behind that new glass building. That building is Boricua College. There are also fairly new apartment buildings there, along Third Ave running from 161 St to 163 St.

There is still an old vacant warehouse behind the Days Inn, on Brook Ave. I've seen L.19 drilling there a few times.

There are also new apartment buildings along St. Ann's Ave and Eagle Ave, between 156 St and 160 St and on 161 st, Between Courtlandt and Melrose and then from Melrose to Elton.

The St. Mary's, Jackson, McKinley and Forest houses are nearby and I'm always amazed at the number of runs I hear for these buildings. It seems like there's compactor fires everyday at one or each of these buildings.

The Morris and Morrisania houses are just a bit further up on Washington, near the quarters of E.50/L.19/BC.26, and those are some very rough places.


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Post by: fdce54 on August 14, 2013, 11:01:03 PM
Believe it or not, I live near the 42 Pct. The closest fire alarm box to my residence is 2323. I believe the street used to be referred to as 'gasoline alley' during the way years. I recall reading here that 2323 was one of the busier boxes during those years.

The old vacant court house is still there, where St. Ann's Ave and Third Ave meet, behind that new glass building. That building is Boricua College. There are also fairly new apartment buildings there, along Third Ave running from 161 St to 163 St.

There is still an old vacant warehouse behind the Days Inn, on Brook Ave. I've seen L.19 drilling there a few times.

There are also new apartment buildings along St. Ann's Ave and Eagle Ave, between 156 St and 160 St and on 161 st, Between Courtlandt and Melrose and then from Melrose to Elton.

The St. Mary's, Jackson, McKinley and Forest houses are nearby and I'm always amazed at the number of runs I hear for these buildings. It seems like there's compactor fires everyday at one or each of these buildings.

The Morris and Morrisania houses are just a bit further up on Washington, near the quarters of E.50/L.19/BC.26, and those are some very rough places.
I've heard that the Third Ave corridor between the Cross Bronx Expwy and Claremont Pkwy was referred to as "Gasoline Alley" during the day.
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Post by: guitarman314 on August 14, 2013, 11:59:59 PM
Believe it or not, I live near the 42 Pct. The closest fire alarm box to my residence is 2323. I believe the street used to be referred to as 'gasoline alley' during the way years. I recall reading here that 2323 was one of the busier boxes during those years.

The old vacant court house is still there, where St. Ann's Ave and Third Ave meet, behind that new glass building. That building is Boricua College. There are also fairly new apartment buildings there, along Third Ave running from 161 St to 163 St.

There is still an old vacant warehouse behind the Days Inn, on Brook Ave. I've seen L.19 drilling there a few times.

There are also new apartment buildings along St. Ann's Ave and Eagle Ave, between 156 St and 160 St and on 161 st, Between Courtlandt and Melrose and then from Melrose to Elton.

The St. Mary's, Jackson, McKinley and Forest houses are nearby and I'm always amazed at the number of runs I hear for these buildings. It seems like there's compactor fires everyday at one or each of these buildings.

The Morris and Morrisania houses are just a bit further up on Washington, near the quarters of E.50/L.19/BC.26, and those are some very rough places.
I've heard that the Third Ave corridor between the Cross Bronx Expwy and Claremont Pkwy was referred to as "Gasoline Alley" during the day.
  Is this it?
(http://s10.postimg.cc/yitqhi8p1/Box_2323_Bx.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/yitqhi8p1/)
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Post by: minerva14road on August 15, 2013, 12:16:18 AM
That's it. I believe the assignment is nearly the same, but 82 is 4th and the Chief is the 26.
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Post by: 68jk09 on August 15, 2013, 03:37:31 AM
2323 Cauldwell & 160 defintely one of the  busiest back in the day  as well as 2743 Charlotte & 170  later ....Chief "......." who posts here was there at both as a LT & CPT.     
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Post by: Dover FD on August 15, 2013, 07:46:34 AM
A few months back, I asked my brother, a South Bronx war years veteran, where he caught his first job.  Without hesitation, he said "151 and Union." That was over 40 years ago and a lot has changed. Where was your first job?
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Post by: ******* on August 15, 2013, 08:15:39 AM
At its busiest time the assignment for 2323 was 50-1,50-2,73,19,42,B55,D6. The box, blocks, were mostly 6 story tenements and H types with a few 2 story frames, very heavily populated. Dispatcher would just come on the air and say "50 start out for gasoline alley."  One July month, probably 1971, we (50) had 17 jobs, all hands or higher at that one box, 2323. They (whoever they were) used to break our balls and every night around 0300 2323 would come in, a 9-2. Remember one summer night we arrived at the 0300 9-2 and all of a sudden one of the rigs started to lean on their siren. We all joined in with our sirens and air horns for about a whole minute. We must have woken up every one within a block of the box, that was the last night we got the 0300 box, they got the message. That was the box where one day after a job and we were putting the line back an older Hispanic man was standing there. I said to him "why are you letting them burn you out like this?" He looked at me, smiled, and said "we are going to get new Garden type apartments." I understand he was right, but so many years later that he never saw them.
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Post by: guitarman314 on August 15, 2013, 01:48:25 PM
A few months back, I asked my brother, a South Bronx war years veteran, where he caught his first job.  Without hesitation, he said "151 and Union." That was over 40 years ago and a lot has changed. Where was your first job?
  Union & 151 (2255) around 1968-69 was one of the biggest South Bronx fires I ever buffed. Super Pumper Tender was unhitched, driven over piles of rubble and used to demolish what was left of a whole city block of tenements and frames. A school was later built on that site. I recall only one Tower Ladder (14), numerous Stangs and 4 or 5 Ladderpipes. All the aerials were ALF (42, 29, 48, 31, 17 & 28).
(http://s9.postimg.cc/5obq8mymj/box_2255_Bx.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5obq8mymj/)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: minerva14road on August 15, 2013, 02:01:55 PM
At its busiest time the assignment for 2323 was 50-1,50-2,73,19,42,B55,D6. The box, blocks, were mostly 6 story tenements and H types with a few 2 story frames, very heavily populated. Dispatcher would just come on the air and say "50 start out for gasoline alley."  One July month, probably 1971, we (50) had 17 jobs, all hands or higher at that one box, 2323. They (whoever they were) used to break our balls and every night around 0300 2323 would come in, a 9-2. Remember one summer night we arrived at the 0300 9-2 and all of a sudden one of the rigs started to lean on their siren. We all joined in with our sirens and air horns for about a whole minute. We must have woken up every one within a block of the box, that was the last night we got the 0300 box, they got the message. That was the box where one day after a job and we were putting the line back an older Hispanic man was standing there. I said to him "why are you letting them burn you out like this?" He looked at me, smiled, and said "we are going to get new Garden type apartments." I understand he was right, but so many years later that he never saw them.

Those garden apartments, in my opinion, are very poorly built. Extreme lightweight construction and a danger to the people who live there and firefighters alike. Sometimes I think they'll collapse when the wind blows hard enough.

In the area of 2323, there are only a few of the old buildings left. Between 156 and 158, there a 4 - 3 story brick PD types, one of which is a vacant. Next to those are two 5 story brick tenements. Then on Trinity between 160 and 161, there is one H-Type. Everything else is either project or those garden types.

I recently was on Boston Rd, in the area of 2743. It's interesting to see Charlotte, 170, Seabury and Louis Nine now and to have seen the pictures of then and heard the stories about those times. It must have been something else to have experienced that area, to have worked during it all.

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 18, 2013, 06:23:35 AM
A golden (well maybe green) oldie both the Rig & the FH .....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-ENGINE-277-1981-MACK-CF-MODEL-1000-500-PUMPER-AWESOME-L-K/190874828318?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D652592401797935734%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D200946072515%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-ENGINE-277-1981-MACK-CF-MODEL-1000-500-PUMPER-AWESOME-L-K/190874828318?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D652592401797935734%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D200946072515%26)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: Disp51 on August 18, 2013, 01:23:06 PM
I recently found these two department orders, one from 1938, and the other 1943. I found it an interesting historical view into the department, particularly the salaries and pensions. Also, the 1943 order shows the effects of the war, with the military leaves, and the hiring of temporary replacement firemen.   

(http://s17.postimg.cc/k5crs1fcb/DO16.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/k5crs1fcb/)

(http://s14.postimg.cc/5jad4lxal/DO17.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5jad4lxal/)

(http://s21.postimg.cc/5lkeiuvlv/DO18.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5lkeiuvlv/)

(http://s22.postimg.cc/5pupotwlp/DO19.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/5pupotwlp/)

(http://s7.postimg.cc/v2tkzf2dj/DO20.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/v2tkzf2dj/)



(http://s24.postimg.cc/fi8tn7u6p/Do21.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/fi8tn7u6p/)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: grumpy grizzly on August 18, 2013, 02:01:10 PM
A whole different ball game in those days, huh! Thanx for a very interesting post!
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: grumpy grizzly on August 18, 2013, 02:33:00 PM
I hit the post from 3rd alarm in 1968. Fantastic numbers for everything. But Chicago had 138 stations with 131 companies and Boston had 43 houses with 77 companies. As of this date CFD has 100 houses. Now Boston is 34 houses with 34 engines and 20 ladder companies. Chicago is 98 houses, 96 engine companies and 61 trucks (CFD lingo). There is one single truck house, T-24). Cannot explain the discrepancies in house vs companies. CFD is -1. Thank you Kevin White for cutting so many companies. Wanted to be POTUS, thank God he did not make it.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 19, 2013, 03:29:09 AM
A '60 or '62 American La France spare parked outside the shops     http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-1965-Alfco-Ladder/121160934671?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D673057714401769343%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121160976823%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-1965-Alfco-Ladder/121160934671?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D673057714401769343%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121160976823%26)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 19, 2013, 03:43:59 AM
2 Mack (post office type) 2 seat cabs w/no provision up front for the FFs who hade to ride the side (1 marked LAD*52)....these were replacement tractors attached to various manufacture Aerials that had their original tractor damaged or destroyed....only a few were purchased in the early '70s ...they were not too good & were shortlived in the FDNY........ www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Mack-MB-ladders/121160932982?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D673241947365173460%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121160934671%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Mack-MB-ladders/121160932982?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D673241947365173460%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121160934671%26)

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: memory master on August 19, 2013, 07:11:50 AM
2 Mack (post office type) 2 seat cabs w/no provision up front for the FFs who hade to ride the side (1 marked LAD*52)....these were replacement tractors attached to various manufacture Aerials that had their original tractor damaged or destroyed....only a few were purchased in the early '70s ...they were not too good & were shortlived in the FDNY........ www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Mack-MB-ladders/121160932982?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D673241947365173460%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121160934671%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Mack-MB-ladders/121160932982?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D673241947365173460%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121160934671%26)

85 Truck had one and I believe 152 had one for a while also.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on August 19, 2013, 09:11:45 AM
L 85  1960s:
(http://s14.postimg.cc/jfn3dfn3h/L_85.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/jfn3dfn3h/)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: johnd248 on August 19, 2013, 09:24:40 AM
Something makes me think L 115 in Long Island City had one.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mac8146 on August 19, 2013, 10:37:19 AM
L-52 had a Mack MB pulling what became the last in service wooden ladder, cant find photo of it taken at rock when L-52 gave up the last wooden aerial for a hand me down metal aerial ladder. (Seagrave or American LaFrance)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: lucky on August 19, 2013, 11:19:19 AM
L 140 had a 1969 mack/1953 pirsh ladder
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: memory master on August 19, 2013, 11:58:22 AM
Where oh where do I know that name from on the 1943 order, Sidney Boonin???? :-\
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: XPFD3 on August 19, 2013, 02:28:04 PM
The aerial in the L.85 photo looks like a Pirsch.  Not much ladder when you got to the top when fully extended.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: memory master on August 19, 2013, 04:02:56 PM
Where oh where do I know that name from on the 1943 order, Sidney Boonin???? :-\

Was he the Capt. of L144 in the early 60's?
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: memory master on August 19, 2013, 04:23:40 PM
Where oh where do I know that name from on the 1943 order, Sidney Boonin???? :-\

Was he the Capt. of L144 in the early 60's?

Nope, forget that. It was a different Sidney.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on August 19, 2013, 05:08:00 PM
2 Mack (post office type) 2 seat cabs w/no provision up front for the FFs who hade to ride the side (1 marked LAD*52)....these were replacement tractors attached to various manufacture Aerials that had their original tractor damaged or destroyed....only a few were purchased in the early '70s ...they were not too good & were shortlived in the FDNY........ www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Mack-MB-ladders/121160932982?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D673241947365173460%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121160934671%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Mack-MB-ladders/121160932982?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D673241947365173460%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121160934671%26)

85 Truck had one and I believe 152 had one for a while also.
There were 10 assigned to: (1)1948 Pirsch: L85; (1)1948 ALF: L39, (3)1953 Pirsch: 140, 152 & 162; (1)1953 ALF: L5; (2)1955 FWD (75 ft. wood): 52 & 125; (1)1960 Maxim: L115 . Last one became the Hi-Ex Foam Unit.   
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on August 19, 2013, 09:22:04 PM
The aerial in the L.85 photo looks like a Pirsch.  Not much ladder when you got to the top when fully extended.

XPFD - You are right about the Pirsch.

Ladder 85 went into service April 16, 1960 with a 1938 FWD 85 ft tiller.  It had a 1948 Ward LaFrance tractor. It came from Ladder 106.

In 1962, Ladder 85's 1938 FWD was sent to Ladder 82.

Ladder 85 received a well used Pirsch 85 ft tiller that was used by Ladder 3.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: nfd2004 on August 19, 2013, 09:44:13 PM
I believe Ladder 85 was the first Mack CF Tower Ladder to go from all red to a white over red color scheme. I think it was also the first to go from the silver colored boom to a white boom.

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on August 19, 2013, 09:55:27 PM
The aerial in the L.85 photo looks like a Pirsch.  Not much ladder when you got to the top when fully extended.

XPFD - You are right about the Pirsch.

Ladder 85 went into service April 16, 1960 with a 1938 FWD 85 ft tiller.  It had a 1948 Ward LaFrance tractor. It came from Ladder 106.

In 1962, Ladder 85's 1938 FWD was sent to Ladder 82 to replace their 1926 Pierce Arrow city service truck. (L 82's rig was 36 years old) 

Ladder 85 received a well used Pirsch 85 ft tiller that was used by Ladder 3.
  That '48 Pirsch was originally assigned to Ladder 4 and spent a short time at L3
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on August 19, 2013, 09:59:13 PM
The aerial in the L.85 photo looks like a Pirsch.  Not much ladder when you got to the top when fully extended.

XPFD - You are right about the Pirsch.

Ladder 85 went into service April 16, 1960 with a 1938 FWD 85 ft tiller.  It had a 1948 Ward LaFrance tractor. It came from Ladder 106.

In 1962, Ladder 85's 1938 FWD was sent to Ladder 82 to replace their 1926 Pierce Arrow city service truck. (L 82's rig was 36 years old)   What happened to Ladder 82's 1951 Ward LaFrance Quad?

Ladder 85 received a well used Pirsch 85 ft tiller that was used by Ladder 3.
  That '48 Pirsch was originally assigned to Ladder 4 and spent a short time at L3
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 21, 2013, 12:49:34 AM
LAD*136 '55 FOUR WHEEL DRIVE....BLDGS ON LEFT ARE LONG GONE NOW REPLACED W/ROW OF 3 STY ATTACHED DWELLINGS......... www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-1955-FWD-Lad-136-/121162563885?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c35da012d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-1955-FWD-Lad-136-/121162563885?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c35da012d)

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 21, 2013, 01:11:17 AM
2 old shop trucks.......  http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-FDNY-Old-Emergency-Trucks/121162242294?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D717310745753328922%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121162563885%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-FDNY-Old-Emergency-Trucks/121162242294?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D717310745753328922%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121162563885%26)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 21, 2013, 01:27:10 AM
NY FIRE PATROL 1 & 2........  http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-NYC-Fire-Patrol-Trucks/121162247520?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D717585552293142449%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D200954902815%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-NYC-Fire-Patrol-Trucks/121162247520?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D717585552293142449%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D200954902815%26)
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Post by: 68jk09 on August 21, 2013, 02:55:06 AM
2 MACKS ..1 OUTSIDE THE SHOPS & 1 OUT OF TOWN.......  http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-FDNY-1950s-Mack-C-photos/121162680251?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D718924398828957161%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D281153558682%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-FDNY-1950s-Mack-C-photos/121162680251?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D718924398828957161%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D281153558682%26)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 21, 2013, 02:57:08 AM
1949 GMC FDNY BUS......  http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-1949-GMC-Bus/121162673722?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D719037421122795906%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121162680251%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-1949-GMC-Bus/121162673722?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D719037421122795906%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121162680251%26)
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Post by: guitarman314 on August 21, 2013, 12:50:44 PM
2 MACKS ..1 OUTSIDE THE SHOPS & 1 OUT OF TOWN.......  http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-FDNY-1950s-Mack-C-photos/121162680251?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D718924398828957161%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D281153558682%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-FDNY-1950s-Mack-C-photos/121162680251?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D718924398828957161%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D281153558682%26)
  I sent the seller a message because that 1958 Mack spare outside the Shops is a actually a 1962-63 with dual headlights and rear suction intake. The 1965 Mack C's were all diesel with front suction intake and a vertical exhaust stack on the officers side of the cab.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 22, 2013, 12:46:17 AM
Photo of the "Hackett" in Jamaica Bay they were moored behind 331/173....also a photo of BFU 86.......  http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-FDNY-1970-photoss-/121162676481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c35dbb901 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-FDNY-1970-photoss-/121162676481?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c35dbb901)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: Disp51 on August 25, 2013, 12:53:13 PM

(http://s11.postimg.cc/nt6l0vupb/FDNY_Power_Supply.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/nt6l0vupb/)

 Outside the Brooklyn Jewish Hospital (Aug.'69).
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Post by: 69 METS on August 25, 2013, 05:50:58 PM

(http://s11.postimg.cc/nt6l0vupb/FDNY_Power_Supply.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/nt6l0vupb/)

 Outside the Brooklyn Jewish Hospital (Aug.'69).

Is that the 38th Battalion's station wagon?
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Post by: 68jk09 on August 28, 2013, 02:41:32 AM
1969 PHOTO OF PIER "A" THE BERTH OF MARINE 1 "JOHN D. MCKEAN" & THE TENDER "SMOKE" PLUS THE UFA SUPPLY STORE AS WELL AS "THE FARM"........ www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Slide-FDNY-Fire-Apparatus-Fireboat-John-D-McKean-1969/350862037293?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D880995445843670253%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D350862037293%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Slide-FDNY-Fire-Apparatus-Fireboat-John-D-McKean-1969/350862037293?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D880995445843670253%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D350862037293%26)

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Post by: 68jk09 on August 28, 2013, 03:05:57 AM
1960 PHOTO OF THE "SMOKE 2" ALSO THE FB "WILLIAM J. GAYNOR IS IN THE BACKGROUND........ www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Slide-FDNY-Fire-Apparatus-Fireboat-Smoke-II-in-1960/350862036137?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D881457620067220941%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D350862037293%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Slide-FDNY-Fire-Apparatus-Fireboat-Smoke-II-in-1960/350862036137?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D881457620067220941%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D350862037293%26)

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Post by: 68jk09 on August 30, 2013, 02:51:16 AM
48 OLD FDNY PHOTOS.... In the 7th panel (of 4) the picture is ENG*234/BN*38 former qtrs which has been R*2s since 1985..... www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-PHOTO-SET-FOURTY-EIGHT-48-4X6-COLOR-BLK-WHI-FIRE-APPARATUS-PHOTOS/190893331915?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D927490091067613005%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D231041131235%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-PHOTO-SET-FOURTY-EIGHT-48-4X6-COLOR-BLK-WHI-FIRE-APPARATUS-PHOTOS/190893331915?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D927490091067613005%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D231041131235%26)

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Post by: mikeindabronx on August 31, 2013, 07:08:18 PM
48 OLD FDNY PHOTOS.... In the 7th panel (of 4) the picture is ENG*234/BN*38 former qtrs which has been R*2s since 1985..... www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-PHOTO-SET-FOURTY-EIGHT-48-4X6-COLOR-BLK-WHI-FIRE-APPARATUS-PHOTOS/190893331915?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D927490091067613005%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D231041131235%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-PHOTO-SET-FOURTY-EIGHT-48-4X6-COLOR-BLK-WHI-FIRE-APPARATUS-PHOTOS/190893331915?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D927490091067613005%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D231041131235%26)


Nice Photos, I see 3 of mine being used without my permission
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on September 25, 2013, 05:19:33 PM
BEYOND THE FIRE LINES....EXCELLENT PHOTOS..... http://www.beyondthefireline.com/gallery/fdny-classic-photos/#/gallery/fdny-classic-photos/04-11-1/ (http://www.beyondthefireline.com/gallery/fdny-classic-photos/#/gallery/fdny-classic-photos/04-11-1/)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: grumpy grizzly on September 25, 2013, 08:32:10 PM
Great site, great fotos
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on October 06, 2013, 10:33:37 PM
100 OLD FDNY RIG PHOTOS......  http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-FDNY-Old-Photos-/121185993977?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c373f84f9#payCntId (http://www.ebay.com/itm/100-FDNY-Old-Photos-/121185993977?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c373f84f9#payCntId)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on October 07, 2013, 02:22:45 PM
There are some good shots of 1959 Mack C/Maxim reg.#418 that was originally L11 then wrecked in 1971 while serving as a spare at L48.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on October 07, 2013, 05:29:12 PM
The photos sold right away but only for $36.00 i was thinking they would go for well over  $50.00 ....well worth it..rigs  you will never see again....... .you can still view some by clicking on "see former listing" or on the photo itself...eventually they will be removed from the e bay site though.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 147 on October 24, 2013, 09:31:56 AM
Engine 281 1978 Mack CF reg# MP7836 and H & L 147 1974 Seagrave reg#SL7401 in qtrs.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: johnd248 on October 24, 2013, 09:39:37 AM
Great picture of Da Pride, Jim
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 09, 2013, 04:07:12 AM
PICTURE # 4 IS A RARE PHOTO OF ONE OF THE SQUIRTS THAT WAS CONVERTED TO A SHORT 55' AERIAL & USED ON CITY ISLAND AS ENG*70s PUMPER DURING THE PERIOD THAT LAD*53 WAS CLOSED YEARS BACK (the open rear comp door is blocking the tormentors)...scroll down for description of the other 6 photos..... www.ebay.com/itm/7-NYC-FDNY-older-apparatus-photos/121208260203?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18472%26meid%3D2576050845416799892%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D8385%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121208260203%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-NYC-FDNY-older-apparatus-photos/121208260203?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18472%26meid%3D2576050845416799892%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D8385%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121208260203%26)

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 19, 2013, 06:48:38 PM
LAD*167 @ A THIRD ALARM @ 38 AV & BELL BLVD ON 6-6-65.......    http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Ladder-Co-167-Bayside-NY-Vintage-Photo/141111735593?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18472%26meid%3D2822486161913581091%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D8385%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D141111735593%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Ladder-Co-167-Bayside-NY-Vintage-Photo/141111735593?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18472%26meid%3D2822486161913581091%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D8385%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D141111735593%26)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 23, 2013, 02:13:02 AM
ENG*315 1947 MACK......    http://www.ebay.com/itm/A1030-8x10-FDNY-New-York-City-Fire-Dept-Engine-315-1947-Mack-Pumper/400606874587?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18472%26meid%3D2899329971507810250%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D8385%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D400606874587%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/A1030-8x10-FDNY-New-York-City-Fire-Dept-Engine-315-1947-Mack-Pumper/400606874587?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D18472%26meid%3D2899329971507810250%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D8385%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D400606874587%26)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 23, 2013, 11:11:17 PM
1926 MODEL T.......  http://www.legendaryfind.com/cars/pin/163336/ (http://www.legendaryfind.com/cars/pin/163336/)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 25, 2013, 04:03:34 AM
THE '50s...SCRAP ALL THE MODERN TECHNOLOGY I WOULD GO BACK IN A MINUTE......READ THIS....QUOTE....
Being Green I REALLY LOVE THIS ONE !!!!!!

Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the much older woman, that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment.

The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing' back in my earlier days."

The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment for future generations."

She was right -- our generation didn't have the 'green thing' in its day.

Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over.

So they really were recycled.

But we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.

Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags, that we reused for numerous things, most memorable besides household garbage bags, was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our schoolbooks. This was to ensure that public property, (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribblings. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bags.

But too bad we didn't do the "green thing" back then.

We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks.

But she was right. We didn't have the "green thing" in our day.

Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throwaway kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing.

But that young lady is right; we didn't have the "green thing" back in our day.

Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief – (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana . In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap. Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity.

But she's right; we didn't have the "green thing" back then.

We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull.

But we didn't have the "green thing" back then.

Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their mom’s into a 24-hour taxi service in the family's $45,000 SUV or van, which cost what a whole house did before the "green thing." We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 3,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint.

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the "green thing" back then? UNQUOTE.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: grumpy grizzly on November 25, 2013, 05:29:16 PM
This is so good. Remember filling up an ink  pen by using that little lever on the side!Great post! :) :)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 26, 2013, 03:11:00 AM
In grammar school we had ink pens..... then when i went OTJ in '68 NYC still had inkwells at the Housewatch desk but not w/lever/bladder ink pens...we still had quill pens ....1 for red ink & 1 for blue ink from the inkwells...one time we had no more shafts for the tips  & LT John G... RIP (WW2 Vet) took a 2 foot sawed off piece of broomstick & attached the pen point to it & wrote on the side "FUN CITY SPECIAL JOHN V. LINDSAY MAYOR"....when the Deputy came to qtrs & sat down in the housewatch to "take a mark" in the Co Journal he could not believe it ...we subsequently adopted the "fun city special jv lindsay mayor" slogan & wrote it in chalk on all the crap spares we received.       
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 3511 on November 26, 2013, 08:18:29 AM
Thanks 68jk.... now that's a great Inside Story.
@
 If I remember correctly, alarms of fire and all entries made by an officer ( other than roll call) were made inall red ink.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 26, 2013, 01:43:20 PM
Housewatchman used blue ink for all their entries including alarms... Co Officer or visiting Chiefs  used red ink. 
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 3511 on November 27, 2013, 06:13:44 PM
Thank you for setting that straight.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on November 27, 2013, 06:40:49 PM
Thanks Chief.  Great post.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: grumpy grizzly on November 27, 2013, 07:32:22 PM
Mack you just get it right! Son working over the holidays @ L15? hope for a quiet shift and a good cook! Pats 34-31, Tom told Payton I will spot u 24 and still win!!
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on December 11, 2013, 04:36:49 PM
Old Journal American Fire photos...... http://norman.hrc.utexas.edu/nyjadc/gallery.cfm?cat=1 (http://norman.hrc.utexas.edu/nyjadc/gallery.cfm?cat=1)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: L-103(ret) on December 11, 2013, 07:07:24 PM
great collection Jack, gratefully I can say, mostly before my time even.....and those MSAs really sucked
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on December 29, 2013, 08:41:09 PM
April 4 1970 newspaper....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-NEW-YORK-FIRE-DEPARTMENT-1970-BRONX-THREE-LITTLE-BROTHERS-DIE-IN-FIRE/291045991518?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D3752084639964387170%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D271358562827%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-NEW-YORK-FIRE-DEPARTMENT-1970-BRONX-THREE-LITTLE-BROTHERS-DIE-IN-FIRE/291045991518?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D3752084639964387170%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D271358562827%26)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on December 29, 2013, 11:51:43 PM
LAD*111.... Also in the background is a Pumper w/a wooden Scaling Ladder on top & leather straps on the back step....... www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Ladder-Co-111-Vintage-Photo/141151547711?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D3755149650159187214%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D271358747747%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Ladder-Co-111-Vintage-Photo/141151547711?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D3755149650159187214%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D271358747747%26)

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 02, 2014, 02:47:17 AM
Photo of a 1914 Model T taken in Oct '60 outside the Fire Museum when it was on Duane St w/ENG*7 & LAD*1.......http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Museum-1914-Model-T-Ford-color-slide/121242593894?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D3827525124424369855%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D231124007298%26 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Museum-1914-Model-T-Ford-color-slide/121242593894?_trksid=p2045573.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.CURRENT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D27%26meid%3D3827525124424369855%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D1011%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D231124007298%26)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 07, 2014, 10:07:56 PM
BAYSIDE QUEENS NY SLIDE SHOW....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbhMtjgh4bw&app=desktop (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbhMtjgh4bw&app=desktop)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 10, 2014, 02:21:59 AM
LAD*44 1953 AMERICAN LAFRANCE.....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Ladder-44-4-x-6-photo-/271365783437?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f2ea93f8d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Ladder-44-4-x-6-photo-/271365783437?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f2ea93f8d)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on January 10, 2014, 02:46:42 AM
Ex-L129 from 1953 to 1962 then went L44 replacing a 1940 Ahrens-Fox 85 ft. stick.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 23, 2014, 04:37:22 PM
I have added some Response History on LAD*108 while on Siegel St @ the end of the 715 thread for those interested.....  http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,28206.0.html (http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,28206.0.html)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on February 18, 2014, 01:10:19 AM
ONE & ONLY ENG*65 LIME YELLOW ALF....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/American-laFrance-Fire-Apparatus-Flyer-for-FDNY-Pumper/261399104773?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20490%26meid%3D4916080042995268305%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9149%26rk%3D0%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D271383046251 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/American-laFrance-Fire-Apparatus-Flyer-for-FDNY-Pumper/261399104773?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20490%26meid%3D4916080042995268305%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9149%26rk%3D0%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D271383046251)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on February 18, 2014, 01:17:51 AM
G'POINT ...BORO CALL...JUNE 30 1952.....    http://www.ebay.com/itm/WNYF-Magazine-FDNY-With-New-York-City-Firemen/221374933140?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20490%26meid%3D4916281103343583423%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9149%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D111281711738 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/WNYF-Magazine-FDNY-With-New-York-City-Firemen/221374933140?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20490%26meid%3D4916281103343583423%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9149%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D111281711738)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on February 20, 2014, 11:58:13 PM
FDNY BOOSTER LINE HISTORY .....FDNY Pumpers of different makes made from 1958 to 1986 had 200 ft of red rubber 1 inch diameter hose known as booster hose on a reel originally mounted on top of the Rig then later mounted below the hose bed @ the back step...it had a "Navy" nozzle attached which was a combination coarse fog or straight stream & also could have a fog applicator pipe attached if needed by removing the coarse fog tip & inserting the roughly 5 foot slightly bent applicator pipe...these are pictures of the nozzle...the small open hole is the straight stream & the coarse fog tip on the chain unscrewed so you could insert the extended applicator if needed... www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ROCKWOOD-SPRINKLER-CO-HANDLE-NOZZLE-/111283578828?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e904a7cc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-ROCKWOOD-SPRINKLER-CO-HANDLE-NOZZLE-/111283578828?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e904a7cc) .... the booster line was used primarily for Fires involving car's ,rubbish,brush etc & although it was not supposed to be used for structural Fires there were occasions that i was at where a nearby Pumpers booster line saved the day....there was also a fitting available where if you had all 200 ft stretched to lets say a car Fire off the roadway you could use the fitting to add a length or 2 of 1 3/4 @ the front end to reach the Fire.....the earlier reels only had a manual crank pictured here www.ebay.com/itm/Hose-reel-handle-and-holders-for-a-fire-truck-/251452272175?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8bb92e2f (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hose-reel-handle-and-holders-for-a-fire-truck-/251452272175?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8bb92e2f) to rewind the hose but later models also had an electric rewind (that worked most of the time) .....starting w/the '87 Macks w/the extended front bumper & side compartments the booster line was discontinued on FDNY Rigs....this thinking came about a few years after the death of FF Tony Shands RIP of ENG*297 on 11-20-84  who was in the rear of the Rig feeding booster hose back onto the reel @ the backstep after an ADV Fire on 20th Av in the area where the Whitestone Target Mall is today when a drunk driver pinned him to the Rig.....there was also a FF named Joeseph Kanavan RIP from ENG*228 years earlier on 1-25-76 who met the same fate....after the Tony Shands death the policy was instituted that no ENG was to operate alone on any roadway & must have a LAD to block traffic.... shortly after the policy was instituted ENG*297 was once again @ the same 20 Av location extinuishing yet another ADV when another drunk hit the LAD blocking ENG*297 no Members were hurt this time ....i was a LT in ENG*332 & we had a new '87 Mack w/no booster line...we had many ADV & rubbish Fire's in ENY @ the time & we were regularly wearing out the length of 1 3/4 in the front tray....i sent a report stating that i was requesting to have a booster line reel retrofitted above the hose bed as i had never seen a booster line wear out or burst no matter how often dragged thru glass,rubbish etc...i also said that i realized their thinking behind removing the booster hose & reel but i also felt that disconnecting ..draining & repacking 1 3/4 @ the front bumper took longer than the electric rewind of the booster line which did not have to be drained or disconnected  exposing the Members for a longer time.....they did not agree & as a solution sent 10 lengths of 1 3/4 & said "wear out as much as needed we have more"....i still think (JMO) that the reel could be used safely w/the LAD blocking of course.....maybe some day in the future we will see a return of the booster reel to the FDNY.


Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: STAjo on February 21, 2014, 08:42:44 AM

TY Chief, Great Stuff! I Remember, 'Back In The Day...' The Booster Line had become
Quite Popular as the 'Go-To' Line, very frequently used as an Initial Attack Line.
I Recall Also The LODD's mentioned, May They Rest In Peace.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: memory master on February 21, 2014, 10:13:01 AM
I also recall my dad saying that their '54 Mack pumper had no booster line so if they were rolling into a pull box and saw a car or small rubbish fire going they would "slow up" a bit and let the second due engine who had a Ward LaFrance rig with a booster get in first. Naturally the would assist with the stretch and the rewind but it was easier than breaking down, draining and repacking the 1 1/2" cotton jacked hose.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: johnd248 on February 21, 2014, 10:28:09 AM
Thanks for the great booster history, Chief.  I can certainly remember using the old hand crank to reload the booster line onto the reel.  Was never easy.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: XPFD3 on February 21, 2014, 10:48:01 AM
Philadelphia still specs a booster line on every pumper.  From 1954 thru 1963 PFD was buying John Bean High Pressure Fog pumpers on commercial chassis.  There was a separate belt driven high pressure pump that supplied 850 PSI to the 2 booster reels which were equipped with BEAN GUNS as the booster nozzle.  There was a highly respected old school Assistant Chief of Department named Howard O'Drain who was a company officer in Engine 2 in the 1950s.  As the story goes, if they had fire in more than one dwelling in a row, THE BIG DUECE would start at one end with the booster line off the wagon and at the other end with the booster line off the pumper and meet in the middle.  Sadly Philadelphia elected one term Mayor Bill Green in 1980 who fileted the PFD.  He eliminated the 8 Assistant Chiefs positions and the PFD lost hundreds of years of experience in one day. 
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on February 21, 2014, 01:17:13 PM
Thanks Chief.  Great summary on booster lines. And ADVs.   

Also, SI companies used boosters for brush extensively.  There were great for jobs which were accessible with the rig and saved long stretches.  SI had many areas with limited hydrants. 
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 03, 2014, 06:40:05 AM
OLDER BFU*4...A FORMER US ARMY RIG... AWESOME LOOK..... http://www.ebay.com/itm/NYCFD-Brush-Fire-Unit-4-1989-Amertek-Ex-US-Army-Kodachrome-color-slide/121282853164?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D21020%26meid%3D5222809177908884749%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9336%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D201042332017 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/NYCFD-Brush-Fire-Unit-4-1989-Amertek-Ex-US-Army-Kodachrome-color-slide/121282853164?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D21020%26meid%3D5222809177908884749%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9336%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D201042332017)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 07, 2014, 04:37:37 AM
BACKDRAFT CATCHES 2 BOSTON FFs ON LADDER....   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Engineering-Oct1967-Boston-Fire-Milwaukee-Fire-Chicago-Fire/291093773484?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D21020%26meid%3D5313757575809460753%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9336%26rk%3D0%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D291093773484 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Engineering-Oct1967-Boston-Fire-Milwaukee-Fire-Chicago-Fire/291093773484?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D21020%26meid%3D5313757575809460753%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9336%26rk%3D0%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D291093773484)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 14, 2014, 03:38:21 AM
1938 AHRENS FOX FRONT MOUNTED PUMPER IN SERVICE IN THE FDNY WELL INTO THE FIFTIES....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Engine-48-1938-Ahrens-Fox-pumper-Kodachrome-color-slide/121291955063?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D5474085588872579596%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D0%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121291955063 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Engine-48-1938-Ahrens-Fox-pumper-Kodachrome-color-slide/121291955063?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D5474085588872579596%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D0%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121291955063)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 26, 2014, 08:59:33 PM
10-30-01....   http://www.youtube.com/embed/bxR1tZ08FcI?rel=0 (http://www.youtube.com/embed/bxR1tZ08FcI?rel=0)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: manhattan on March 26, 2014, 09:10:49 PM
That's wonderful, Chief.  Thank you.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: STAjo on March 26, 2014, 09:35:47 PM

Excellent ! TY, Chief !
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 27, 2014, 03:52:36 AM
RES*5 BACK IN THE '40s WHEN IT WAS MANNED BY LAD*78  IT WAS LATER DISBANDED UNTIL 1984....   http://www.ebay.com/itm/1941-WARD-LAFRANCE-CONVERTED-TO-RESCUE-FIRE-TRUCK-PHOTO-NEW-YORK-CITY-NYFD/301135506331?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D5775747740891524583%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121299971390 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1941-WARD-LAFRANCE-CONVERTED-TO-RESCUE-FIRE-TRUCK-PHOTO-NEW-YORK-CITY-NYFD/301135506331?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D5775747740891524583%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121299971390)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 27, 2014, 05:22:22 AM
WW2 ERA RELAY HOSE WAGON MADE FROM AN OLD TILLER RIG FOR USE IN CASE OF AERIAL BOMBING THAT DESTROYED WATER MAINS  .....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-AMERICAN-LAFRANCE-RELAY-HOSE-FIRE-ENGINE-TRUCK-PHOTO-NEW-YORK-CITY-NYFD/291111013345?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D5777323653013424872%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D371028207937 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-AMERICAN-LAFRANCE-RELAY-HOSE-FIRE-ENGINE-TRUCK-PHOTO-NEW-YORK-CITY-NYFD/291111013345?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D5777323653013424872%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D371028207937)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: STAjo on March 28, 2014, 05:00:45 PM
RES*5 BACK IN THE '40s WHEN IT WAS MANNED BY LAD*78  IT WAS LATER DISBANDED UNTIL 1984....   http://www.ebay.com/itm/1941-WARD-LAFRANCE-CONVERTED-TO-RESCUE-FIRE-TRUCK-PHOTO-NEW-YORK-CITY-NYFD/301135506331?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D5775747740891524583%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121299971390 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1941-WARD-LAFRANCE-CONVERTED-TO-RESCUE-FIRE-TRUCK-PHOTO-NEW-YORK-CITY-NYFD/301135506331?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D5775747740891524583%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121299971390)

Wow ! Wotta' Rig ! Talk about 'Plain-Jane' ! Loved the Searchlights Mounted over cab !
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: STAjo on March 28, 2014, 05:04:57 PM
WW2 ERA RELAY HOSE WAGON MADE FROM AN OLD TILLER RIG FOR USE IN CASE OF AERIAL BOMBING THAT DESTROYED WATER MAINS  .....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-AMERICAN-LAFRANCE-RELAY-HOSE-FIRE-ENGINE-TRUCK-PHOTO-NEW-YORK-CITY-NYFD/291111013345?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D5777323653013424872%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D371028207937 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1924-AMERICAN-LAFRANCE-RELAY-HOSE-FIRE-ENGINE-TRUCK-PHOTO-NEW-YORK-CITY-NYFD/291111013345?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D5777323653013424872%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D371028207937)

Great Lookin' Rig Chief, TY !  Great Improvisation, Ingenuity: Working w/ What ya' got!
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: auxlteng225 on March 28, 2014, 05:40:24 PM
looking at the tiller rig converted to a large capacity hose wagon for WW2 brought back memories of Engine 236 on Liberty Avenue in Brooklyn back in the early forties with their American Lafrance painted GRAY.  I have never been able to find a picture of that rig, sad to say. Their hose wagon was the standard color red.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on April 06, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
EARLY 126 PHOTO....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-FIRE-DEPARTMENT-FIREFIGHTING-LADDER-126-ORIGINAL-PHOTO-MACK-1923-ON-34-FWD-/111298628981?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e9ea4d75 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-FIRE-DEPARTMENT-FIREFIGHTING-LADDER-126-ORIGINAL-PHOTO-MACK-1923-ON-34-FWD-/111298628981?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19e9ea4d75)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on April 14, 2014, 12:53:22 AM
1954 Cadillac  FDNY Welfare Fund  Ambulance....   http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-CADILLAC-AMBULANCE-RESCUE-FIRE-ENGINE-TRUCK-PHOTO-NEW-YORK-CITY-FDNY/301152401948?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D22042%26meid%3D6190382043670158284%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9536%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D301152401948 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-CADILLAC-AMBULANCE-RESCUE-FIRE-ENGINE-TRUCK-PHOTO-NEW-YORK-CITY-FDNY/301152401948?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D22042%26meid%3D6190382043670158284%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9536%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D301152401948)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on April 16, 2014, 02:27:22 AM
MISC FDNY PHOTOS BY HARRY DOYLE..RIP......   http://doyleimages.smugmug.com/FDNY/Misc-FDNY/11857090_xr7ZDm# (http://doyleimages.smugmug.com/FDNY/Misc-FDNY/11857090_xr7ZDm#)!i=838534458&k=WBw2Mmw
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on April 30, 2014, 11:23:02 PM
1932 CHRYSLER IMPERIAL ...FDNY CHIEF OF DEPT......  http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-CHRYSLER-IMPERIAL-LIMO-FIRE-CHIEF-TRUCK-PHOTO-NEW-YORK-CITY-FDNY/291131808884?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D6583250839410812225%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D291133962821 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/1932-CHRYSLER-IMPERIAL-LIMO-FIRE-CHIEF-TRUCK-PHOTO-NEW-YORK-CITY-FDNY/291131808884?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111000%26algo%3DREC.RVI%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D6583250839410812225%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D291133962821)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on June 16, 2014, 06:18:27 PM
LAD*17 ON WELFARE  ISLAND....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Apparatus-Slide-FDNY-1968-American-LaFrance-Ladder-17/221462801928?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D22426%26meid%3D7668214176840131878%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9723%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D131216066583 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Apparatus-Slide-FDNY-1968-American-LaFrance-Ladder-17/221462801928?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D22426%26meid%3D7668214176840131878%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D9723%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D131216066583)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 04, 2014, 04:58:53 AM
RITZ TOWER FIRE & EXPLOSION....8 FDNY LODDs...NEVER FORGET...  http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/insider/events/2014/080114b.shtml (http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/insider/events/2014/080114b.shtml)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on August 10, 2014, 08:58:47 AM
Great FDNY apparatus history book - hard to find at a reasonable price:  "Wheels of the Bravest"  $75.00 Ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wheels-of-the-Bravest-History-FDNY-New-York-Fire-Apparatus-1865-1992-hc-dj-/301251060499?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item4623f66313 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Wheels-of-the-Bravest-History-FDNY-New-York-Fire-Apparatus-1865-1992-hc-dj-/301251060499?pt=Antiquarian_Collectible&hash=item4623f66313)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on September 23, 2014, 09:28:32 PM
1923 MACK RESCUE RIG....which Rescue & IFO what FH ?...  http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-PHOTO-1923-MACK-RESCUE-SQUAD-FIRE-TRUCK-ENGINE-NEW-YORK-CITY-FDNY/291250500589?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D85c447aa875b41e6869e9e6cb7555f52%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D351178423043 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-PHOTO-1923-MACK-RESCUE-SQUAD-FIRE-TRUCK-ENGINE-NEW-YORK-CITY-FDNY/291250500589?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D85c447aa875b41e6869e9e6cb7555f52%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D351178423043)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on September 23, 2014, 10:07:58 PM
Looks like Engine 30 house on Spring St. ;)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on September 24, 2014, 08:53:23 AM
G Man always correct  -  Engine 30's old firehouse at 278 Spring Street.  Home of Rescue 1 from 1920-1947.  Currently FDNY Museum. 

(http://s24.postimg.cc/uu7rssqz5/New_York_City_Fire_Museum_002.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/uu7rssqz5/)


Rescue 1 was organized at Engine 33 in 1915.  They were then relocated to Engine 30.  Rescue 1 then moved to Engine 65 in 1960 and disbanded Engine 2's firehouse on West 43rd Street in 1973.           

Thanks John.



Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: johnd248 on September 24, 2014, 08:57:27 AM
Rescue 1 was in with E 65 for a long time, I believe before they went to the old E 2 house.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on September 24, 2014, 03:47:25 PM
Rescue 1 was in with E 65 for a long time, I believe before they went to the old E 2 house.
  Yes, from 1960 to 1973 and it was an "ALL MACK" firehouse during that time. ;)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: eng65ine on September 24, 2014, 08:57:11 PM
My Dad arrived at E-65 a few months after R-1 moved in and stayed until long after they left.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: scoobyd on September 24, 2014, 09:13:15 PM
 My grandfather was Captain of E65 in the late sixties and there are some stories I've heard about the two companies not getting along too well.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on October 05, 2014, 04:23:17 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-8-FDNY-Apparatus-Slides-1970-1980s/261612152773?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D25411%26meid%3D58b7a15bc57a4f769f0752c2a68907ce%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D10672%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D261612159232 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-8-FDNY-Apparatus-Slides-1970-1980s/261612152773?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D25411%26meid%3D58b7a15bc57a4f769f0752c2a68907ce%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D10672%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D261612159232)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on October 05, 2014, 04:39:26 PM
PHOTOS 1,3&4 ARE THE '76 MACK RESCUE RIG...R*2 '76 to '82 THEN R*5 WHEN THEY WERE ORGANIZED IN '84..... www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-6-FDNY-Apparatus-Slides-Rescue-Companies-1960-1980s/261612154812?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D25411%26meid%3D3de9c4fb39f74175ba2584f8829230c7%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D10672%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D261612152773 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-6-FDNY-Apparatus-Slides-Rescue-Companies-1960-1980s/261612154812?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D25411%26meid%3D3de9c4fb39f74175ba2584f8829230c7%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D10672%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D261612152773)

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on October 05, 2014, 04:59:05 PM
PHOTO #1 IS THE ORIGINAL FDNY TL FROM 1965 ASSIGNED TO LAD*1...... www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-7-FDNY-Apparatus-Slides-1960-1980s/261612159232?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D25411%26meid%3D458393e8d4614136af1b38a7fe63d953%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D10672%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D261612154812 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-7-FDNY-Apparatus-Slides-1960-1980s/261612159232?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D25411%26meid%3D458393e8d4614136af1b38a7fe63d953%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D10672%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D261612154812)

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on October 27, 2014, 12:53:58 AM
UNIFORM DEVICE FROM THE FORMER FDNY BAND....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/old-vintage-Fireman-Obsolete-Hat-Helmet-Badge-Fire-Dept-NYC-New-York-Band/331358035394?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D1fcc8ce921f54523bbaa1159fdb5ab07%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D251686134362 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/old-vintage-Fireman-Obsolete-Hat-Helmet-Badge-Fire-Dept-NYC-New-York-Band/331358035394?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D1fcc8ce921f54523bbaa1159fdb5ab07%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D251686134362)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 05, 2014, 03:12:30 AM
BUCKEYE EXHAUST WHISTLE...  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Solid-Brass-Unusual-Buckeye-Fire-Truck-Engine-Exhaust-Whistle-VG-CON/121475137459?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D4ea9d8a0fa694322b4599776fff58b22%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D191396258328 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Solid-Brass-Unusual-Buckeye-Fire-Truck-Engine-Exhaust-Whistle-VG-CON/121475137459?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D4ea9d8a0fa694322b4599776fff58b22%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D191396258328)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on November 05, 2014, 11:24:05 AM
FDNY  installed whistles on apparatus during WWII.  It wanted a distinct warning sound that was different than air raid sirens.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 3511 on November 05, 2014, 11:54:19 AM
Mack,

They were used during the Korean War as well. I remember the distinct,  coarse sound that was nothing like a whistle. I also found a reference to them during WWI.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 13, 2014, 04:37:24 AM
LAD*31 1973 MACK TL.....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Ladder-31-1973-Mack-CF-Baker-75-Tower-Ladder-Fire-Apparatus-slide/351222817603?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D3c572b6b0c3046b9875ab0f0430582ed%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D111510559655 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Ladder-31-1973-Mack-CF-Baker-75-Tower-Ladder-Fire-Apparatus-slide/351222817603?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D3c572b6b0c3046b9875ab0f0430582ed%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D111510559655)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 13, 2014, 04:52:07 AM
1907 POSTCARD  OF THE FIREBOAT "NEW YORKER"......   http://www.ebay.com/itm/M12-Fire-Boat-The-New-Yorker-NYC-New-York-City-Rotograph-Co-1907-Postcard/221602013796?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D3c0db47ee60243d2940efbc8599559ba%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D231388945515 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/M12-Fire-Boat-The-New-Yorker-NYC-New-York-City-Rotograph-Co-1907-Postcard/221602013796?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D3c0db47ee60243d2940efbc8599559ba%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D231388945515)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 16, 2014, 02:03:08 AM
ENG*13 RIP w/a 1963 Mack @ Proby School on Welfare Island w/the pole sliding platform in the background & green portable trailers on the left.... www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Apparatus-Slide-FDNY-1963-Mack-Engine-13-/381051477406?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58b8701d9e (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Apparatus-Slide-FDNY-1963-Mack-Engine-13-/381051477406?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item58b8701d9e)

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on November 26, 2014, 11:14:24 AM
FDNY Helmet - E 237 - Captain

http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Fire-Helmet-/261676662170?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ced24fd9a (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Fire-Helmet-/261676662170?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3ced24fd9a)

(http://s4.postimg.cc/4an6ugpuh/image.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/4an6ugpuh/)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: CFDMarshal on November 26, 2014, 07:47:47 PM
newer frontpiece on an older helmet. Really wonder if it is legit.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: Disp51 on November 29, 2014, 09:21:10 PM

(http://s14.postimg.cc/vxvh4fdzh/Cairns_Catalog.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/vxvh4fdzh/)

(http://s27.postimg.cc/r8a6ncqsv/Cairns_Catalog_1.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/r8a6ncqsv/)

(http://s17.postimg.cc/iakrvdsh7/Cairns_Catalog_2.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/iakrvdsh7/)

(http://s17.postimg.cc/45eytkjfv/Cairns_Catalog_3.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/45eytkjfv/)

(http://s10.postimg.cc/4sww7aex1/Cairns_Catalog_4.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/4sww7aex1/)

From 1966, when the members purchased their turnout gear.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 16, 2015, 07:00:29 PM
NYC FIRST SUBWAY FIRE.......                               www.boweryboyshistory.com/2015/01/the-horror-underground-new-yorks-first.html (http://www.boweryboyshistory.com/2015/01/the-horror-underground-new-yorks-first.html)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: diablo_fire on January 16, 2015, 10:10:34 PM
10-30-01....   http://www.youtube.com/embed/bxR1tZ08FcI?rel=0 (http://www.youtube.com/embed/bxR1tZ08FcI?rel=0)

This is the first time I have seen that and I had to save it to my computer. It was a great piece thank you for sharing.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 24, 2015, 10:30:34 PM
HISTORICAL NYC SUBWAY PHOTOS....SOME SHOWING THE SUBWAY TRACK COLLAPSE CAUSED BY WATER FROM THE 1956 WANAMAKER FIRE.........http://news.yahoo.com/photos/historical-images-of-new-york-city-subway-1421962140-slideshow/;_ylt=AwrBT7747MNUQQkAHbxXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzZDhlNThoBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDU2OV8x (http://news.yahoo.com/photos/historical-images-of-new-york-city-subway-1421962140-slideshow/;_ylt=AwrBT7747MNUQQkAHbxXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzZDhlNThoBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDU2OV8x)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on January 25, 2015, 09:05:14 AM
HISTORICAL NYC SUBWAY PHOTOS....SOME SHOWING THE SUBWAY TRACK COLLAPSE CAUSED BY WATER FROM THE 1956 WANAMAKER FIRE.........http://news.yahoo.com/photos/historical-images-of-new-york-city-subway-1421962140-slideshow/;_ylt=AwrBT7747MNUQQkAHbxXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzZDhlNThoBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDU2OV8x (http://news.yahoo.com/photos/historical-images-of-new-york-city-subway-1421962140-slideshow/;_ylt=AwrBT7747MNUQQkAHbxXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTEzZDhlNThoBHNlYwNzcgRwb3MDMQRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1ZJUDU2OV8x)

Thanks Chief - Nice pictures of NYC subway history.  I remember the vending machines.  The soda machines used paper cups.  When you put a nickel or dime in, a cup dropped down - or sometimes didn't drop down - and then the machine started to fill.  If there was no cup, you were screwed.  Maybe you got some soda with your hand.  It always seemed to happen when you were real thirsty and it was your last dime.  It didn't matter if the soda was warm, or too much syrup or not enough syrup, as long as you had a cup of something, it was OK.  I think those small candy and gum vending machines on the columns were pennies.  Sometimes they worked, sometimes they didn't.             And people complained that tokens cost 15 cents.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: memory master on January 25, 2015, 09:28:29 AM
Mack, two "Chicklets" in a box for a penny. Peppermint or spearmint. If the machine worked, that is.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: Disp51 on January 25, 2015, 07:20:33 PM
Images from the US and UK, circa 1920 to 40's

http://www.weather.com/tv/shows/responding-by-storm/news/vintage-firefighting-taming-flames-20130807 (http://www.weather.com/tv/shows/responding-by-storm/news/vintage-firefighting-taming-flames-20130807)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 27, 2015, 08:20:57 PM
RARE PHOTO OF SQ*3 AT A THIRD ON GOLD ST AROUND '74......The Bronze 3 on the side of the Rig was one of the three's that were part of the LAD*133 lettering that was over the door of the unused bay in ENG*206's original FH on Metropolitan Av .......when the FH was opened in the 1900's this was a plan but 133 was never organized until 1998 in QNS......       

https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1544454_1529375137343725_2082313678390500101_n.jpg?oh=8bd5db7b233d1cbdd3f860c1cb017613&oe=5527E872
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 27, 2015, 09:14:45 PM
Chiefs Rig looks like a '70 Ford.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 3511 on January 27, 2015, 09:47:56 PM
68jk...chief that's a great bit of info on that bronze"3" on the Squad.

Those bronze digits were period pieces of those houses built between 1911 and the 1930s. They remained over the doors untouched for decades even if the companies, like L133, had never been organized there.

In those first 60 years of the last century the FDNY was a rigid semi military organization. The firehouses remained as built. Companies with separate house watch desks remained so. Rigs were not to be adorned with anything but what came on them from the Shops. And then the War Years came.....

Another story on the bronze digits. L36 was organized with the second coming of E43 (the first version was a "floating engine" or fireboat) on Sedgwick Ave in the Bronx in 1904. It was disbanded a decade later, resurfacing across the Harlem River with E95 two years later. But the "36 Hook&Ladder 36" remained over the south bay on the Sedgwick Ave firehouse into the 1970s.

Then one day L59 moved over from Boston Rd to take up residence with E43. Instead of removing the "36s" over the doors, the members turned the 3 around and bent it into a 5, then turned the 6 up side down into a 9. Voila!  "59 Hook&Ladder 59" now appeared over the door.

It may be gone now,  but "you could look it up"...and I saw it.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 28, 2015, 04:49:39 AM
A lot of history in the Company numbers on the front of Firehouse's.....varying styles & sizes of the bronze ones,the earlier tin ones ,the earlier gold leaf painted ones on black wood & the later aluminum ones & also the placement of them......108's original handmade tin  sign which stretched over the door on Siegel St. is mounted on the wall inside  the present FH on Union Ave & was a backdrop in an interview on a "Cooking With Daisy" show (who is the Daughter of  RET FDNY CPT Ray Martinez)....when we moved to Union Av in '71 the Job had the Truck on the right side of the apparatus floor & 216 in the middle between the Truck & the BN....it was better to work on the Truck equipment in the middle bay so the CPT's agreed to switch sides so we got 2 pieces of metal from old Ladder Pipe hose rack's & placed the letters over the correct sides......   ..R*2 on Carlton Ave w/210 did not have lettering until the late '70s when we got tin lettering from a vacant Bodega & installed them on a piece of metal from a Ladder Pipe hose rack from an old Tiller Rig....we took the same sign w/us when we moved to Bergen St in '85 ......both the 108/216 signs & the R*2 signs remain today but both have a different color scheme from when we did them back then..... in a recent post in  the FH thread i had made a post about the lettering over 229/146 which are both unique (146 using the old Water Tower letters to make the only bronze Tower Ladder letter.'s & 229 having large sandcast  chrome lettering).....before LAD*133 was organized w/275 in '98 ENG*275's aluminum letters had been on a short wall next to the FH...in '94 we removed the wall & put those letter's on a piece of aluminum diamond plate over the apparatus door...when 133 was organized the Job installed lettering for both Unit's.     
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: scoobyd on January 28, 2015, 10:23:48 AM
  43/59's  lettering are over the wrong bays- 43 on the truck side, 59 on the engine side.  The truck can't make a right out of the left side bay. 
Also, speaking of bronze- L 59 has had giant bronze numbers on the front of the rig for a long time.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: fdhistorian on February 01, 2015, 01:23:15 AM
68jk

Those bronze digits were period pieces of those houses built between 1911 and the 1930s. They remained over the doors untouched for decades even if the companies, like L133, had never been organized there.

In those first 60 years of the last century the FDNY was a rigid semi military organization. The firehouses remained as built. Companies with separate house watch desks remained so. Rigs were not to be adorned with anything but what came on them from the Shops. And then the War Years came.....

It may be gone now,  but "you could look it up"...and I saw it.

The fact that the bronze digits on the houses built in the early 1900's were not disturbed for decades means that they were seen and photographed by many.  Surprisingly, a fair number of firehouses were numbered for units that were never there but were established elsewhere, if at all.  This is particularly evident in the firehouses circa 1913-1919.  It would appear that they were built with some sort of master plan that somehow was changed before those companies could be organized.

Here is a partial list.  Does anyone know of any others?

Engine 160 / Ladder 81
Engine 206 / Ladder 133
Engine 288 / Ladder 138
Engine 296 / Ladder 145 - Mack, do you have this photo, which apparently became Engine 290's house?
Engine 310 / Ladder 160
Water Tower 7 / Ladder 146

Was any house ever numbered for Ladder 139 (guessing maybe Engine 289?) or Ladder 141 (guessing maybe Engine 292?) both as discussed in an earlier post.

There were others after the "War Years'

Engine 45 / Ladder 60
Engine 72 / Ladder 57
Engine 251 / Ladder 160 in Queens

Some that changed with companies being disbanded

Engine 6  / Engine 32
Engine 17 / Ladder 18/ Squad 5 / BC 4
Engine 43 / Ladder 36
Engine 45 / Ladder 55 / BC 26
Engine 56 / Engine 74
Engine 215 / Engine 238 / Ladder 106 / BC 36

And a few 'might have beens' that did not happen

Engine 11 / Ladder 11
Engine 20 / Ladder 20
Engine 27 / Ladder 8
Engine 36 / Ladder 14
Engine 72 / Ladder 3


Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on February 01, 2015, 03:20:41 AM
Some other new FDNY house's that were on the proposed drawing board back in the early '60s but never happened were 218 & 237 together  South of 237's original qtrs.........225 & 236 together on Liberty Ave West of 236's original qtrs.........231 & 232 & 120 & BN*44 on the North Side of Atlantic Ave by the East New York LIRR Station.....out of all of these only 225 & 232 actually moved but to different locations.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: ******* on February 01, 2015, 08:35:16 AM
A folly, or as Webster defines the word," a weakness of mind", is various studies municipalities do for future cost savings. Very early 1960's NYC hired the Rand Corp. to study "which fire companies could be disbanded, do to inactivity for future savings. One of the companies on the list that I remember was 45 engine, 3rd due at Charlotte Street.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: lucky on February 01, 2015, 09:48:05 AM
The drawing for the current 233/176 quarters also included the then Engine 252 and the 17th Division. That drawing was at the rock for years after the school was opened there.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: fdhistorian on February 01, 2015, 11:30:10 AM
The 1912 architect's drawing proposal (posted by Mack) for Engine 229 on Richardson St has Engine 23 over the door.  Engine 23 was a fireboat.  That was probably just a 'concept' company number.

Were there any other station proposals that never got beyond the drawing boards?

I am fairly convinced, based on other activities in that time frame, that Engine 283-2, which was in service from 1931 to 1946, was originally going to become Engine 322 in the Brownsville - East New York area.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on February 01, 2015, 11:23:40 PM
Firehouse at 1781 Monroe Ave. built in 1915 was originally lettered for Engine 42 and Ladder 50 and the "LADDER 50" was still on it when I was in junior high school in the early 1960's. I remember the current E71/L55/D6 firehouse was originally proposed for E41/E71/L55/Bn26 and when it was completed only had E41/L55 before E71/L55 moved in and the "Powers to Be" proposed the closing of Engine 41. From 1925 to 1950 many single engines were combined with single ladders firehouses. E238/L106 firehouse was built for E215/E238/L106/Bn36. E72/Sat.2 firehouse was supposed to have Ladder 57 and they even had a rig lettered for it but the company was never organized. 
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on February 01, 2015, 11:36:43 PM
  Just about everyone knows that 49 Beekman St. was the former quarters of E32 before E6 was moved in there but few know that the firehouse was originally built for Eng. 7 and E-7 was there from June 15, 1903 to Dec. 31, 1905 when they moved to stately "Duane Manor". Meanwhile Engine 32 was at 108 John St. in a leased building from 1880 to 1905 when they moved into 49 Beekman St.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on February 02, 2015, 12:01:42 AM
 After WW-II there was a consolidation of single engines with single ladders with the majority being single engines into single ladder firehouses. These were E13 to L20, L9 to E33, E58 to L26, E60 to L17, L49 to E68, L110 to E207 @365 Jay St.(fmr Bklyn Fire Hqtrs.)E214 to L111, E227 to L123, E230 to L102(temp. 1946-1950 when E230 got a new house), L116 to E261.   
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: JOR176 on February 02, 2015, 11:21:19 AM
Some other new FDNY house's that were on the proposed drawing board back in the early '60s but never happened were 218 & 237 together  South of 237's original qtrs.........225 & 236 together on Liberty Ave West of 236's original qtrs.........231 & 232 & 120 & BN*44 on the North Side of Atlantic Ave by the East New York LIRR Station.....out of all of these only 225 & 232 actually moved but to different locations.

Chief a few more that I remember
228 & 114   vicinity 40th St. to 44 St. between 2nd and 4th Aves (70's)
E5 & L3    Ave, "A" and East 11th St. (70's & 80's)
New single Eng Firehouse  vicinity Flatlands Ave & Van Sicklen Ave. (80's and (90's)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: johnd248 on February 02, 2015, 12:39:07 PM
When E 248's current quarters were opened in 1972, it was certainly big enough to hold a ladder company.  I believe the lettering outside mentions ladder company with no unit number assigned.  Several years back, L 113 relocated to E 248 for about a year while their quarters were being renovated. There was no problem with space while they were there.  No, without a truck, the 41 Battalion uses the space where the truck would be and there separate bay remains vacant.

For years, E 248's rig had distinctive, large aluminum numbers on the front of various rigs.  Going back to the 70s these numbers were liberated from a rather large apartment complex in their response area.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 18, 2015, 04:07:43 PM
FDNY EMERALD SOCIETY PIPE BAND LEADER JIM CORCORAN PASSED TO A HIGHER LEVEL 20 YRS AGO AFTER LEADING THE BAND ON MARCH 17,1995...CONTINUED RIP.... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151675773860238&set=o.100314420598&type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151675773860238&set=o.100314420598&type=2&theater)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on March 18, 2015, 05:09:55 PM
FDNY EMERALD SOCIETY PIPE BAND LEADER JIM CORCORAN PASSED TO A HIGHER LEVEL 20 YRS AGO AFTER LEADING THE BAND ON MARCH 17,1995...CONTINUED RIP.... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151675773860238&set=o.100314420598&type=2&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151675773860238&set=o.100314420598&type=2&theater)

http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/irish-emerald-dies-article-1.683850 (http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/irish-emerald-dies-article-1.683850)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 19, 2015, 01:38:54 AM
THE GREAT NYC FIRE's OF 1835 & 1845.....THE GREAT FIRE's OF 1835 & 1845 ..... (article from the Sister of a RET CPT).......1835
The Great Fire ravaged lower Manhattan east of Broadway.
On the cold and windy evening of December 16, 1835, a five-story warehouse on Pearl and Hanover Streets caught fire. Powerful gusts of wind carried the fire to fifty buildings within fifteen minutes. The city’s volunteer fire companies were inadequate to the needs of the growing city. Firefighters came from Brooklyn and New Jersey and Connecticut and Pennsylvania. The temperature hit 17 degrees below zero, and wells and hydrants froze solid. Even the East River was frozen over. When the firefighters were able to get water to pass through their hoses, strong winds lashed the water back in their faces. Firefighters realized that if the flames passed Wall Street, the whole city might go up. The only thing for the firefighters to do was to blow up buildings, with the aid of sailors from the Brooklyn Navy Yard, to break the fire’s progress. That worked, but not until 674 buildings had been consumed. It took two weeks fully to quench the fire. The city bounded by Maiden Lane, Coenties Slip, William Street, and the East River was gone. Yet, because the area had ceased being a residential area, the night fire killed but two people. And within one year, 500 new buildings had gone up in the area. Nonetheless, the fire bankrupted 23 of the city’s 26 insurance companies, and was one of the cluster of unfortunate events—the “perfect storm”—that led to the Panic of 1837 which in turn led to a six-year-long depression. The fire also lent great urgency to the plans to construct a new water system for the city. On July 19, 1845, another fire in much the same area consumed about 300 buildings and killed 30 people.

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 22, 2015, 11:31:03 PM
FORMER SALVAGE 4  R MODEL MACK PUMPER ...1 OF A FEW IN THE FDNY.....    http://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-color-slide-Mack-R-Big-Bertha-former-FDNY-rig/111624121662?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D28797%26meid%3D4de0ec54297b4e269dbd5b4e698bfa85%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121600994079 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-color-slide-Mack-R-Big-Bertha-former-FDNY-rig/111624121662?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D28797%26meid%3D4de0ec54297b4e269dbd5b4e698bfa85%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121600994079)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on March 22, 2015, 11:34:31 PM
LAD*1  1956  ALF......    http://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-color-slide-FDNY-ALF-tiller/111627137052?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D5164e8f952e445809f88aab703e9fb83%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D111624121662&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/35mm-color-slide-FDNY-ALF-tiller/111627137052?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131003132420%26meid%3D5164e8f952e445809f88aab703e9fb83%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D111624121662&rt=nc)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on April 15, 2015, 08:55:01 PM
LAD*126 PHOTO ON E BAY...   http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-ORIGINAL-PHOTO-OF-LADDER-126-/111632781933?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19fdd5126d (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-ORIGINAL-PHOTO-OF-LADDER-126-/111632781933?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item19fdd5126d)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on April 15, 2015, 09:11:11 PM
EARLY 108 PHOTO ON E BAY...  http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-NEW-YORK-FIRE-STAFF-PHOTO-36-VINTAGE-1869-HOOK-LADDER-STATION-HOUSE-8/251889599911?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D30084%26meid%3Db95825d7b3f74f3994d5caee843ae918%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D111632781933&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-NEW-YORK-FIRE-STAFF-PHOTO-36-VINTAGE-1869-HOOK-LADDER-STATION-HOUSE-8/251889599911?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D30084%26meid%3Db95825d7b3f74f3994d5caee843ae918%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D111632781933&rt=nc)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on April 15, 2015, 11:29:53 PM
EARLY 108 PHOTO ON E BAY...  http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-NEW-YORK-FIRE-STAFF-PHOTO-36-VINTAGE-1869-HOOK-LADDER-STATION-HOUSE-8/251889599911?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D30084%26meid%3Db95825d7b3f74f3994d5caee843ae918%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D111632781933&rt=nc (http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-NEW-YORK-FIRE-STAFF-PHOTO-36-VINTAGE-1869-HOOK-LADDER-STATION-HOUSE-8/251889599911?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D30084%26meid%3Db95825d7b3f74f3994d5caee843ae918%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D111632781933&rt=nc)

Great picture of Ladder 8 Brooklyn Fire Department, late 1880s, in front of Siegel Street quarters.  BFD Ladder 8 would become FDNY Ladder 108.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 14, 2015, 10:45:28 PM
Historic photos ....   https://www.youtube.com/embed/Dov50PAsj5M (https://www.youtube.com/embed/Dov50PAsj5M)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 21, 2015, 02:56:54 AM
NYC IN THE '70s .....i would go back in a second if i could..... http://www.vintag.es/2015/02/50-amazing-color-photographs-of-new.html (http://www.vintag.es/2015/02/50-amazing-color-photographs-of-new.html)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: fdce54 on August 21, 2015, 10:06:46 AM
NYC IN THE '70s .....i would go back in a second if i could..... http://www.vintag.es/2015/02/50-amazing-color-photographs-of-new.html (http://www.vintag.es/2015/02/50-amazing-color-photographs-of-new.html)
Me too, Chief. Had a lot of fun back in the good old days.
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Post by: L-103(ret) on August 21, 2015, 11:50:44 AM
yeah but think about what ya had ta wear 8)
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Post by: 68jk09 on September 09, 2015, 03:30:31 AM
BKLYN SCRAP BOOK....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-SCRAP-BOOK-OF-CITY-OF-BROOKLYN-NY-FIRE-DEPT/291552170497?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D118a2fa7c21f48ddbcb80a31daeeb8ca%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121746088560
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Post by: 68jk09 on September 30, 2015, 08:36:12 PM
Old "Training School" patch worn on Uniform shirt during the 6 weeks of proby school back then....got mine 47 years ago.....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-1950s-NYC-New-York-Training-School-Fire-Department-Patch-Fighting-NYFD/151831212412?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D32831%26meid%3D93fcad1e7b4c47f5b443bb4bca7692fa%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D331665819011
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Post by: 68jk09 on September 30, 2015, 08:55:26 PM
1960 Ward La France "Firebrand" Pumper ...unkown ENG parked in Corona...this Rig had the motor between the Off & MPO....the rear facing bench seat behind them allowed access from either side....the seller in the link refers to ENG*331 but it is not this one...331s was a hand me down from 216 in the early '70s ...this picture is much earlier...... www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-fire-apparatus-SLIDE-WLF-FIREBRAND-ENGINE/331665819011?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D32831%26meid%3Df19dccb241724924be3ddc87549c84d2%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D121772049910


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Post by: guitarman314 on September 30, 2015, 09:59:19 PM
   1960 Wards in Queens were originally assigned to E260, E297, E298 & E325 and we all know 298's was destroyed in the 1967 Jamaica gas explosion/fire. E325's rig was temporarily reassigned to E94 when 94's 1962 International burned up but was returned to E325. ;) E272, E288, E311 & E331 got hand-me-downs.
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Post by: 68jk09 on October 01, 2015, 02:20:37 AM
The seller states FDNY but i see no FDNY markings on it & it is not taken in 26's normal area but the back of the Rig in front of it looks like one of our's & so does the back of the Alarm Box....?...   http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-fire-apparatus-SLIDE-E-26-1954-MACK-L/311453403932?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D32831%26meid%3Dcd140ebc769546f78e5cde294c1ddf9b%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D311453403932
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Post by: memory master on October 01, 2015, 04:35:24 AM
The "26" slide might have been at a Staten Island relocation? The '60 Ward slide shows a canopy over the "back step" indicating maybe the shot was taken in the very late 60's or early 70's. G-Man, are you sure 272 had a used Ward? I always remember them with a "CF" Mack.
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Post by: soda-acid on October 01, 2015, 08:17:19 AM
Being that it's in Corona it might be Engine 325. That would be the closest company that had one of these rigs.
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Post by: guitarman314 on October 01, 2015, 08:29:42 PM
The "26" slide might have been at a Staten Island relocation? The '60 Ward slide shows a canopy over the "back step" indicating maybe the shot was taken in the very late 60's or early 70's. G-Man, are you sure 272 had a used Ward? I always remember them with a "CF" Mack.
  According to F.A.J.'s Ward LaFrance book: shop #5931 started out as E209 then was reassigned to E272  ;)
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Post by: 68jk09 on October 02, 2015, 08:35:25 PM
http://www.amny.com/news/fdny-through-the-years-see-dramatic-historic-pictures-of-new-york-s-bravest-1.10913241
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Post by: 68jk09 on October 03, 2015, 08:53:33 PM
ENG*154..... http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=32559&ppid=1122&image=858218403&images=858218403&formats=0&format=0
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Post by: guitarman314 on October 03, 2015, 10:22:15 PM
ENG*154..... http://www.auctiva.com/hostedimages/showimage.aspx?gid=32559&ppid=1122&image=858218403&images=858218403&formats=0&format=0
  Sure looks like #154 but it must be E164's 1951 WLF (shop #2603) parked just a few feet east of E165/L85 firehouse. I'm looking at a photo of that rig where they had the number "6" a little off-center closer to the "1" than the "4", it had a forward facing deck gun (most 1951 WLF deck guns faced to the rear), I see the two extinguishers together on the driver's side and a metal bar to keep brush fire equipment from falling off the rear quarter running board. There were only three 1951 Wards assigned to Staten Island: E163, 164 and a 3rd one was reassigned to E161 (ex-E296) in 1961 to replace their WLF Quad. I'm pretty sure E154 never had a "51 Ward unless it was a spare. From WWII to 1971, E154 ran with a 1937 Mack 1000gpm then a 1958 Mack C-95 1000gpm and a couple of hosewagons.
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Post by: 68jk09 on November 09, 2015, 06:04:16 PM
11-9-15...The Northeast Blackout... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northeast_blackout_of_1965
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Post by: 68jk09 on November 12, 2015, 08:34:09 PM
LAD*26-2 w/1970 RM w/strobe lights on roof.....LAD*26-2.....LAD*26-2 W/1970 RM......Left to right FF Charlie Masterson...FF Charlie Johnson CHAUF...FF Jim Weisenburger...LT Fred Fink (who later became CPT of 26-2)...FF Pat McGoary...FF Don Butler (in old time HW Uniform)....FF Ed Kneafsey.......     https://webmail1.mail.aol.com/38947-111/aol-6/en-us/mail/get-attachment.aspx?uid=30475640&folder=OldMail&partId=3
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Post by: CFDMarshal on November 13, 2015, 08:17:10 AM
I cannot access the link, chief?
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Post by: JOR176 on November 13, 2015, 11:04:02 AM
I cannot access the link, chief?

Ditto and I have an AOL e-mail address.
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Post by: 68jk09 on November 15, 2015, 01:18:46 AM
Historical photos....     http://viralboom.com/historical-photos-you-wont-find-in-your-history-books/?pi=1&utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=tbwfhist1
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Post by: 68jk09 on November 25, 2015, 05:41:31 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/fdny-turns-150-firefighter-saves-gallery-1.2198999
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Post by: 68jk09 on December 27, 2015, 11:24:13 PM
297/130 QTRS W/297's MACK......    http://www.nyfd.com/calderoneA/mack2.html
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Post by: memory master on December 28, 2015, 01:16:54 PM
297/130 QTRS W/297's MACK......    http://www.nyfd.com/calderoneA/mack2.html
I remember that rig. It was the '41 Mack that was replaced by a brand new 1960 Ward LaFrance "Firebrand" pumper. Just a little more trivia, the building to the right was "The Rendezvous" tavern which was right on the n/w corner of 120 street & 14th Road. Many "1 quick beer" was had there after a 9x6 back in the day.
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Post by: 68jk09 on January 25, 2016, 01:27:05 AM
CPT LEVY 27 YRS IN 231.....   http://watkinsst.com 
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 14, 2016, 06:28:34 PM
1952 JAMAICA PLANE CRASH...THANKS TO 811.....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQuBhve7PKw
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 15, 2016, 08:14:39 PM
OLDEST VIDEO FOOTAGE OF NYC.....      http://www.bygonenyc.com/tag/omg-facts
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 26, 2016, 09:38:24 PM
BKLYN NAMES....   http://thousandpointsofright.blogspot.com/2016/02/the-names-of-neighborhoods-of-brooklyn.html
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Post by: 68jk09 on March 02, 2016, 07:33:16 PM
PILOT LANDS PLANE ON MANHATTAN STREET....   TWICE... http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/06/04/long-ago-a-pilot-landed-on-an-uptown-street-thats-where-the-bar-was/?_r=1
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Post by: 68jk09 on March 05, 2016, 08:44:15 PM
7-3-75  Residents blockade ENG*218 FH to prevent closing by NYC....   http://www.ebay.com/itm/CT-PHOTO-akc-600-Fire-Department-New-York-City-/111910365253?hash=item1a0e60a845:g:CUoAAOSwWTRWx42n&rmvSB=true
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Post by: 68jk09 on March 19, 2016, 02:47:48 AM
1952 photo of FDNY marching to Annual Memorial Service & passing a Fire scene.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/CT-PHOTO-akc-617-Fire-Department-New-York-City-/111937581480?hash=item1a0ffff1a8:g:e1UAAOSwu1VW6JRw
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Post by: 68jk09 on March 20, 2016, 02:22:36 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CT-PHOTO-akc-592-Fire-Department-New-York-City-/191829079440?hash=item2ca9e77590:g:uBQAAOSwwpdW6vqo
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Post by: 68jk09 on March 26, 2016, 03:03:13 AM
Several unlettered RMs w/phone booth probably at the old Fire Academy (then called Training School) on Welfare Island (now Roosevelt Island) in 1974 as the original 1970 RMs did not come w/phone booths (but had them added later by the Shops then Seagrave started making them w/the newer Rigs )...... www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Apparatus-Slide-FDNY-New-York-City-5-New-Seagrave-Ladders-in-1974-NY23-/252325440631?hash=item3abfc4ac77:g:p34AAOSwxvxW7UxY


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Post by: 68jk09 on March 26, 2016, 06:10:58 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CT-PHOTO-akc-598-Fire-Department-New-York-City-/111937480898?hash=item1a0ffe68c2:g:jUkAAOSwAuNW6G9z
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Post by: Disp51 on March 26, 2016, 03:54:57 PM

(http://s22.postimg.cc/fw21wqjtp/Image_88.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/fw21wqjtp/)

And from the 60's
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Post by: guitarman314 on March 26, 2016, 04:17:16 PM
 
Photo of seven of the twelve 1968 American LaFrance 900 series diesel powered tillers originally assigned to Ladders: 19, 19, 26, 27, 28, 42, 43, 103, 107, 111, 120 & 123. Four more were delivered in 1969 going to Ladders: 31, 38, 48 & 108.
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Post by: 68jk09 on March 26, 2016, 04:31:28 PM
I do not remember the exhaust stack on the FDNY ALFs of 68 & 69 having the curved exhaust stack tip like in the picture of the seven above.....lots of fun w/the stacks though....sometime when going off tour we would dump flour down the stack & on the 1st run for the succeeding tour when the Rig started whoever was nearby would get showered....another was to jam slivers of pine wood hidden between the stack & the band holding it & after a few runs back to back the wood would start to emit a burning smell & if they were responding at the time someone would smell it & say we got a job & guys would start putting on their coats etc.
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Post by: guitarman314 on March 26, 2016, 05:55:35 PM
I do not remember the exhaust stack on the FDNY ALFs of 68 & 69 having the curved exhaust stack tip like in the picture of the seven above.....lots of fun w/the stacks though....sometime when going off tour we would dump flour down the stack & on the 1st run for the succeeding tour when the Rig started whoever was nearby would get showered....another was to jam slivers of pine wood hidden between the stack & the band holding it & after a few runs back to back the wood would start to emit a burning smell & if they were responding at the time someone would smell it & say we got a job & guys would start putting on their coats etc.
  Notice, they didn't have tiller roof installed yet. I don't remember curved exhaust stacks either so I'm sure the Shops changed them before they were assigned.
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Post by: fdce54 on March 26, 2016, 06:25:26 PM
 
Photo of seven of the twelve 1968 American LaFrance 900 series diesel powered tillers originally assigned to Ladders: 19, 19, 26, 27, 28, 42, 43, 103, 107, 111, 120 & 123. Four more were delivered in 1969 going to Ladders: 31, 38, 48 & 108.
Gman, am I seeing this right? You called you own Ladder 17......19!
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Post by: guitarman314 on March 26, 2016, 08:07:27 PM
 
Photo of seven of the twelve 1968 American LaFrance 900 series diesel powered tillers originally assigned to Ladders: 19, 19, 26, 27, 28, 42, 43, 103, 107, 111, 120 & 123. Four more were delivered in 1969 going to Ladders: 31, 38, 48 & 108.
Gman, am I seeing this right? You called you own Ladder 17......19!
  Old age making me misfire while typing. ;D
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Post by: CFDMarshal on March 27, 2016, 02:08:43 PM
When did you get old Gman? I've seen the pics!
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Post by: soda-acid on March 27, 2016, 05:10:46 PM
I remember seeing Ladder 123's ALF at the shops with the curved exhaust. It had just been delivered. As stated previously the shops changed the exhaust to a straight stack. Maybe it was done to minimize the effect on the tiller man?
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Post by: 1261Truckie on March 28, 2016, 06:45:41 AM
I seem to remember hearing that the switch over from curved pipes to straight pipes had to do with tiles being rattled off the walls of certain firehouses. And then, of course, there were black ceilings.
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Post by: 68jk09 on March 28, 2016, 03:11:40 PM
Yes the ceilings had a black path right in line w/the travel of the exhaust pipe .....the Job tried painting some ceilings all black to hide this but the Union jumped in & got that stopped.....obviously that was not the solution only an attempt to mask the problem.... on Carlton Av while R*2 was still quartered there  210 had a '70s something Mack w/a curved exhaust stack turned toward one side of the Rig....this was the side where the workbench was...every morning the workbench was cleaned off however after a few ENG runs it was again covered w/what looked like small black snowflakes blown out of the exhaust stack.
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Post by: 68jk09 on April 02, 2016, 09:22:05 PM
WHAT SOMEONE ENVISIONED IN 1953...  http://www.ebay.com/itm/CT-PHOTO-akc-613-Fire-Department-New-York-City/111937314578?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D35955%26meid%3D1de3c85380c94c02a9045492a2a6f6a4%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D111937314578
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Post by: 68jk09 on April 03, 2016, 02:31:46 AM
The American La France LADs thru the years were well liked (the last ALF LADs were the '68/'69s Tillers except for the one '69 Maroon ALF Rearmount ) but years later the newer ALF Pumpers recd in '82 were introduced into the FDNY & not well liked & were in short service in the FDNY then ....they were probably the last FDNY Rigs w/the hypalon (molotov cocktail resistant hose bed) covers...here is one for sale today....

https://longisland.craigslist.org/cto/5517975202.html
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Post by: 68jk09 on April 04, 2016, 01:22:52 AM
LAD*45 w/an Ahrens Fox.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Old-Black-White-Photo-FDNY-T45-Ahrens-Fox-Fire-Apparatus-New-York-City-H-L/252218677854?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D35828%26meid%3D8084367ceb514b9eabfcd67eb06b4383%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D252336594260
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Post by: guitarman314 on April 04, 2016, 01:47:00 AM
   Ladder 45 had one of the four 1940 Ahrens-Fox Model W-85 85 ft. aerials. It was shop #2071 and in 1942 it had the distinction of being the first to have a ladderpipe installed.  It served at Ladder 45 for 20 years until 1960. ;)
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Post by: memory master on April 04, 2016, 06:26:35 AM
That's the elevated IRT #7 (Times Square To Flushing) subway in the background which at that point is running atop Queens Blvd.
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Post by: 68jk09 on April 13, 2016, 12:31:29 AM
OK any thoughts on these photos....i cannot read the Co number barely visible on the side of the '56 ALF tractor but it looks like 3 digits ?..... in the other photo the Officers front looks like it has 3 digits...the phone number on the Fire escape railing starts w/ST-6 which if it was Stilwell 6 would have been in Long Island City QNS  ......the letter prefix's on NYC phone numbers started being phased out in 1958....only one FF is wearing a coat w/yellow stripes which started in 1960.... any further ideas ?.....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/Set-of-three-35-mm-negatives-of-Four-Alarm-fire-in-Brooklyn-New-York-1960/111967022483?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3Dfbece8aa65ab469280f49ae17e05f6eb%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D111967022483
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Post by: guitarman314 on April 13, 2016, 02:03:03 AM
   The seller says it's a 4 alarm fire in Brooklyn in 1960.  All 11 of the 1956 ALF trucks were still assigned to their first assigned companies in 1960 as none of them got reassigned until the Seagrave 100 ft. models were introduced in 1962-63. The only 3 digit ladder companies that had them back then were: 107, 108, 120, 127. The pumper is definitely a Ward LaFrance, I can tell by the cross member over the hosebed that was unique to all of the 1946 and 1952 thru 1953 but not the 1951 Wards. The chrome barrel on the deck gun tells me it's a 1946 or 1953 model because the 1952 models had red painted barrels. The final clues are the white ceramic subway straps which were only on the 1946 Wards and the handrail over the top edge of the hosebed that was only on the 1946 WLF's. Back in 1960 the 15 1946 WLF pumpers w/o booster reels were still assigned as pumpers or hosewagons. They were 1st piece pumpers at engines: E216 (but 216 got a 1960 WLF that year and the '46 WLF went to E268), E247 & E225. Back in 1960, engines: 17, 24, 55, 62, 201, 217, 219, 224, 230, 263, 265, 268 & 281 had 1946 WLF hosewagons. ;)
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Post by: 68jk09 on April 13, 2016, 03:07:09 AM
G MAN Thanks i was hoping  you would  add to solving the puzzle however i was so busy trying to look closely at the pictures i neglected to read the headline from the seller about it being a BKLYN Fourth in 1960....it does look like a loft bldg in BKLYN ...i tried a magnifying glass on the '56 ALF number but it still looks blurred...the only clue left to uncover is the phone number on the sign on the Fire escape which if actually ST-6 should be a LIC QNS number but since i missed the sellers description i may be wrong on that ?
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Post by: memory master on April 13, 2016, 07:01:39 AM
Yes Chief, it is an "ST" number. It still could be a Brooklyn job and the realty office is in Long Island City. Maybe, could be, just a guess? ???
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Post by: guitarman314 on April 13, 2016, 01:33:24 PM
   Looking at the buildings involved I would guess it's in the industrial area near or along Flushing Ave. where E230 & L108 (Seigel Eagles) were both 1st due. E230 was a 2 piece engine with a 1958 Mack C 1000gpm (#1013) and 1946 WLF750gpm (#2200) wagon. When they needed a master stream they would place the wagon with the large deck gun in front of the fire building.
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Post by: 68jk09 on April 14, 2016, 01:13:58 AM
mm i agree.
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Post by: 68jk09 on May 07, 2016, 02:34:41 AM
1915  LAD*44 PHOTO...   http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Circa-1915-Ladder-44-Firefighter-Fireman-Photo-Bronx-New-York/301948510944?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D0b4d82d57ee8471389fcc80a095d9593%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D222103421707
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Post by: memory master on May 09, 2016, 09:09:06 AM
I guess it was about 1963 or so that one Saturday I went to the "Big House" on 162 street in Jamaica. 275 and 299 had been in their new separate quarters for about three years at that time. The house had two house watch areas and I sat at the one not in use on the north side of the building. I sat there for a good five hours reading old journals, etc. and not once during that time did 298/127 or the 50 "turn a wheel." What a difference it is today where those companies are practically never in quarters. Boy, do things change.
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Post by: 68jk09 on July 01, 2016, 04:52:34 AM
BED STUY 1960s ...SAVING LIVES.... https://www.facebook.com/saltydogapparel/photos/a.1456076014625838.1073741827.1454559751444131/1707646009468836/?type=3&theater
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Post by: 68jk09 on August 06, 2016, 03:34:37 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CT-PHOTO-akc-591-Fire-Department-New-York-City-/191937060385?hash=item2cb0571e21:g:WeIAAOSw3xJXoRn5
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Post by: 68jk09 on August 14, 2016, 02:20:55 PM
1991 CROWN HEIGHTS....  http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/brooklyn/nypd-fdny-caught-middle-1991-crown-heights-riots-article-1.2750132
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Post by: 68jk09 on August 14, 2016, 05:58:04 PM
The damaged Chiefs Car mentioned in the DN article above was the Brooklyn Boro Commanders Sedan which was overturned outside 234/123.
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Post by: 68jk09 on August 14, 2016, 05:58:37 PM
Crown Heights erupts in three days of race riots in 1991
BY RICH SCHAPIRO GINGER ADAMS OTIS
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS Saturday, August 13, 2016, 11:24 PM
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AN AUG. 21, 1991 FILE PHOTO
For three days in 1991, Crown Heights was roiled in riots. Blacks and Lubavitcher Jews faced off again and again in clashes. (DAVID BURNS/AP)
It was dusk on a Monday in August 25 years ago when the sound of a loud crash filled a busy Crown Heights street where 7-year-old Gavin Cato and his cousin Angela Cato were playing.

Angela, also 7, had just finished taking a turn on Gavin’s bike. And Gavin was fiddling with the bike chain when the boom split the air.

The boy’s father, Carmel Cato, then 38, was watching from a few feet way. An immigrant from Guyana, Cato had just come home from work. He’d brought Gavin and Angela outside to practice with the bike in front of their home on President St.

“They were riding on the street. I was standing there looking. Because of my nervousness, I said you’re going to ride from there to this point, where I can see you,” the father, now 63, told the Daily News.

Riots erupt in Crown Heights in 1991
Gavin Cato
Angela Cato
Gavin Cato was killed, and Angela Kato was injured, in the August 1991 crash that set off the Crown Heights riots.
“Sometimes, I beat myself up, thinking why did I do that? If I had left him alone, it might never have happened.”

When the screech of metal-on-metal tore through the late-summer chatter on the residential Brooklyn street, only Carmel Cato saw what was coming.

“At the same time I was looking at (Gavin), I saw this car coming through, and I said, ‘Oh God!’” the father recalled.

Rabbi Menachem M. Schneerson was riding in the car that struck the two black children.
Rabbi Menachem M. Schneerson was riding in the car that struck the two black children.
“This car was on him. I tried to pick it up by myself. I used my hands under the car, both arms. With all my weight, I tried to pick that car up but I couldn’t ... I was speechless. I still keep thinking, ‘What happened?’”

SHARPTON: Underlying issues came to light in Crown Heights
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Twenty-five years after the tragic car accident that sparked the Crown Heights riots — three days of unremitting turmoil that pitted angry Hasidic Jews against outraged African-American and Caribbean residents — elements of that question still linger in the neighborhood.

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Cops investigate the scene after a Mercury Grand Marquis driven by Yosef Lifsh struck two children.
But on the details of Gavin’s death, the official record is clear: On Aug. 19, 1991, at roughly 8:20 p.m., a vehicle that was part of a three-car motorcade carrying Menachem Schneerson, grand rebbe of the Lubavitch Hasidic community, struck and killed Gavin Cato and seriously injured his cousin Angela.

She nearly bit through her tongue and lost half an ear.

Crown Heights residents look back on the 1991 riots
As the two children lay bloody and trapped beneath the vehicle, driver Yosef Lifsh, 22, a Hasidic Jew, gaped in horror at his path of destruction.

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Cato family relatives wait for news about Gavin and Angela after they were struck. (KEN MURRAY/NEW YORK DAILY NEWS)
Lifsh had been the last car in a trio of vehicles escorting Schneerson home from a visit to the graves of his wife and the former grand rebbe.

The lead vehicle was a 71st Precinct police car — because the rebbe had an NYPD escort for all his cemetery visits. It was just one of many privileges police afforded the Jewish community in Crown Heights that raised resentment among black residents, who had a much more turbulent relationship with the NYPD.

The second vehicle contained the grand rebbe himself. The NYPD, in justifying its regular escort of Schneerson, likened him to the Jewish equivalent of the Pope. Such a high-profile religious figure required police protection, cops said.

NYPD, FDNY caught in the middle during 1991 Crown Heights riots
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The NYPD was also caught flatfooted during the first hours of the unrest.
Behind the cops and the rebbe was Lifsh in a 1984 Mercury Grand Marquis station wagon.

When Lifsh’s wagon approached the President St. and Utica Ave. intersection, the lead cop car was rushing through a green light at the busy crossroads. The grand rebbe’s car also raced through the green light. By the time Lifsh hit the intersection, the light had turned red, according to some witnesses. Lifsh and his passengers, twin brothers Levi and Yaakov Spielman, later told officials the light was yellow.

As Lifsh zoomed through the intersection going west, his station wagon collided with a 1981 Chevrolet Malibu headed north. The impact sent Lifsh’s vehicle careening onto the sidewalk. It pinned Gavin and Angela against the brick exterior of a four-story apartment building.

The riots led to one death, 29-year-old Yankel Rosenbaum, who was stabbed and killed by Lemrick Nelson.
The riots led to one death, 29-year-old Yankel Rosenbaum, who was stabbed and killed by Lemrick Nelson.
The next sequence of events was much murkier — and the confusion fed the rage that flared over the next three days.

Relatives of 2 killed in Crown Heights riots to meet
Lifsh, who claimed he jumped from the car as soon as he could to try to help the children, was attacked by an angry crowd. His passenger Levi Spielman told police he tried to call 911 from a portable phone, but was punched and beaten so aggressively he couldn’t complete the call.

A black man pulled him from the mob, and yelled, “He’s mine, and I’m going to have him arrested!”

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Mayor David Dinkins was booed and pelted wherever he went, including a visit to PS 167 during the height of the tempers.
The black man hauled him out of sight around a corner and let him go, Spielman told cops, according to a state report on the riots issued in 1993.

“You owe me one,” he told the terrified Hasid.

Crown Heights leaders who helped heal racial tensions reunite
By 8:22 p.m., two 71st Precinct cops were on the scene. A Hatzolah ambulance was next to pull up, followed at 8:25 p.m. by a crew of city emergency medical technicians who promptly radioed for paramedics. The two 71st Precinct cops, unable to control the swelling and volatile group of Jews and blacks — some of whom were still beating up on Lifsh — also sent urgent calls for backup.

A man watches an overturned car burn in Crown Heights, Brooklyn.
A man watches an overturned car burn in Crown Heights, Brooklyn.
The whole time, an unidentified black man labored over Gavin’s body, giving him CPR.

As fists and bottles began flying, two more police officers arrived and grabbed Lifsh, and told the Hatzolah medics to take him to safety.

When the crowd saw an ambulance pulling away with the Jewish driver, leaving the two children on the ground, the long-simmering cauldron of racial and religious tensions between the black and Hasidic communities — fueled by clashes over housing, city resources, political access to local community boards and alleged preferential treatment from police — exploded.

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Cops escort a bloody Pierre Regis after he tried to run down cops with his sports car in 1991. (DONOFRIO, CARMINE)
“You saw a bunch of Hasidic Jews come out of nowhere,” said witness Josslin Glover, 38, who was a 13-year-old standing on the corner when the riot jumped off.

“They rushed their guy (the driver) off the scene. They were only focused on him. They didn’t care about the kids that were hit. That’s what set the whole thing off. Everyone was angry. They started looting, breaking windows. It was chaos for days,” he recalled.

By 9 p.m., with both Gavin and Angela Cato transported to Kings County Hospital, where Gavin was pronounced dead, the NYPD’s accident investigation squad had moved in.

An injured man is tended to by cops during the riots between blacks and Jews.
An injured man is tended to by cops during the riots between blacks and Jews. (ROCA, JOHN)
The rumor swelled and spread at lightning speed: The Hatzolah crew had ignored Gavin and Angela Cato and only helped the Jewish driver.

By 9:07 p.m., 911 was getting calls about a riot at President St. and Utica Ave. Bottles, objects and racial slurs were hurled with equal venom. Chants of “The Jews killed the kids!” filled the street.

Shots rang out along Utica Ave., and roving gangs of Jewish and black youth started attacking each other and random pedestrians.

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The Jewish community was sharply critical of the NYPD for not taking strong enough action to protect them and their property.
A witness told cops an agitator had climbed onto a car and started shouting, “Do you feel what I feel? Do you feel the pain? What are you going to do about it? Let’s take Kingston Ave.!”

The crowd streamed after him along President St., breaking car windows and overturning at least one vehicle, while another was set on fire. At 10:30 p.m., a member of City Hall’s community assistance unit hit the panic button.

“The s--- is hitting the fan,” the aide told his supervisor and the City Hall police desk, describing huge objects raining down on cars and police being tackled to the ground. As he got in his car, it was pelted with rocks.

The black residents felt cops cracked down on them much harder than on the Hasidim engaged in street battles and protests.
The black residents felt cops cracked down on them much harder than on the Hasidim engaged in street battles and protests. (ROCA, JOHN)
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In the first hours of the riots, Mayor David Dinkins and Police Commissioner Lee Brown, both in Manhattan, had no inkling that Crown Heights was about to experience the worst episode of racial violence the city had seen in 20 years — and leave an indelible mark on both their careers.

The NYPD was also caught flatfooted. The 71st Precinct, at the epicenter of the riots, had just that day welcomed its new commander, Capt. Vincent Kennedy. He was at a B.B. King concert in Wingate Field in Brooklyn at 9 p.m. Only after he went to President St. and Utica Ave. and had to duck from the raining debris did he order 30 more officers to the scene.

Yankel Rosenbaum, a 29-year-old scholar, was killed during the melee.
Yankel Rosenbaum, a 29-year-old scholar, was killed during the melee. (AP)
But it took until roughly 1 a.m. before a full contingent of 350 offers flooded the intersection. By then it was too late, at least for Yankel Rosenbaum.

Rosenbaum, 29, a Hasidic scholar from Australia, was walking at President St. and Brooklyn Ave. when a roving band of about 15 black youths surrounded him just after midnight. While there had been several reported beatings of Jewish men that night, the emotion didn’t turn deadly until Rosenbaum ran into a black teen named Lemrick Nelson.

Nelson, 16, stabbed Rosenbaum four times in a mob attack and then ran off as police approached. He was picked up moments later and brought back to the scene. Rosenbaum, conscious and talking, identified him to the cops, then cursed Nelson and spit on him. Three hours later, Rosenbaum died at Kings County Hospital.

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Lemrick Nelson Jr., 16 at the time, stabbed and killed Yankel Rosenbaum in the hours after the riots began. (ANONYMOUS/ASSOCIATED PRESS)
Mayor Dinkins and Commissioner Brown, who went to the hospital to talk to Carmel Cato and Rosenbaum, were devastated to learn the young Hasidic scholar died.

Over the next three days, Crown Heights was roiled in riots. Blacks and Lubavitcher Jews faced off again and again in clashes, mostly in front of 770 Eastern Parkway, the Lubavitcher headquarters, and at President St. and Utica Ave.

The Jewish community was sharply critical of the NYPD for not taking strong enough action to protect them and their property. The black residents felt cops cracked down on them much harder than on the Hasidim engaged in street battles and protests.

More than 1,800 cops were called in to restore order after the riots in Crown Heights.
More than 1,800 cops were called in to restore order after the riots in Crown Heights. (ROCA, JOHN)
Even with complaints coming in from all sides, Dinkins didn’t order a change in police tactics until he experienced Crown Heights’ wrath for himself — on Wednesday, when the tensions reached a fever pitch.

At 4 p.m., black demonstrators marching past the Lubavitcher headquarters intersected with Police Commissioner Brown, who was in a car headed to Public School 167, where Dinkins was going to speak. Brown’s police car was mobbed and vandalized. He had to duck inside the school while a 10-13 call — police code for an officer in distress — was transmitted for “Car One.”

When Dinkins got to PS 167 a few minutes later, he was greeted with jeers from about 50 black teens — and when he came out later, they shouted and threw bottles at him.

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Fallout from Crown Heights was a major reason why former Mayor David Dinkins wasn't reelected in 1993.
At his next stop, Carmel Cato’s house, Dinkins was pelted and booed again. The scope of the disaster finally hit home for Brown and Dinkins.

Some 600 people stormed through Crown Heights that night. People were assaulted in cars, two people were shot, a firehouse was attacked and a sniper — firing from the roof of a Schenectady Ave. building — wounded eight officers.

At midnight, after Dinkins visited the officers at Kings County Hospital, he gathered police union officials, top commanders and his deputy mayor to talk with Brown about the police tactics.

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A message is posted on a wall where Gavin Cato was killed when he was hit by a car, touching off riots in Crown Heights.
Brown was told he had to “immediately end” the violence. His first deputy commissioner, Raymond Kelly, was assigned the task of devising a new strategy.

By Thursday, 1,800 police officers were on the streets — much more than Tuesday and Wednesday. More arrests were made on Thursday than during the three previous days combined. By nightfall, relative order was restored.

The political fallout from Crown Heights was felt for years — tanking the second-term dreams for Dinkins.

While the Hasidim and African-American and Caribbean residents now share their space more comfortably, many of the old-time community leaders who helped broker peace 25 years ago are still in the neighborhood doing the same work.

“Peacekeeping is the real science of it,” said Richard Green, head of the Crown Heights Youth Collective, an outreach program that serves black and Hasidic teens. “We’ve been peacekeeping for the last 25 years.”


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Post by: STAjo on August 14, 2016, 10:33:45 PM
 Thankfully, I Left Brooklyn, NY in '89. My Last job there was @ Vollaro's Auto- body, (Utica Ave & Ave D, not too far from the Riots).
  I worked there w/ Richie Muarry, ( he was Studying for FDNY then, I was Quizzing him from Textbook & Learned a lot !). Richie, ( as Chief JK knows...), went on to a Great Career w/ FDNY.
Also there at the time was Richie's brother Kenny, who was a Free-Lance Photog. Then, he went on to a Great Career as a NY Daily News Photog., and snapped some of the Photo's used by NYDN for these Stories.

I, moved to Binghamton and had an absolutely-typical and mediocre Career (4 Yrs.), as an EMT at Binghamton Gen. Hosp. ER, and as a Paid EMT-D Crew Chief @ Broome Vol. Emergency Ambulance Sqd.

Thanks for da' Post Chief !
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on October 05, 2016, 12:28:58 AM
THE BOWERY 1945....http://mashable.com/2016/10/01/sammys-bowery-follies/?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark#Fw4_d4IDwiqX
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on October 24, 2016, 11:35:51 PM
FROM ONE OF PAUL HASHAGEN's PAGE.... https://www.facebook.com/paul.hashagen.author/photos/a.409580105813416.1073741828.409199542518139/952492251522196/?type=3&theater
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 08, 2016, 08:03:06 PM
OLD ELECTION NIGHT's...... I remember in the early 60s before i was on the JOB....Election night in Red Hook BKLYN was really big.....the older NY tradition of Election night bonfires still carried on in that neighborhood ....always some communication to occupieds & definately some torching of vacants......LAD*101 & ENG*202 would have 3 sections each & LAD*131 & ENG*279 would have 2 each .....101 & 202 s quarters was a madhouse .....the 2nd & 3rd sections used Reserve rigs & were manned with details from around the City....if you showed up with Auxilliary gear you could respond on the side of the old wooden aerial no questions asked ....same on the fireground ...nobody really knew who was who & you could go to work too.

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: STAjo on November 08, 2016, 10:17:55 PM
 Thanks, Chief. Remember 'Line Cards'? Issued by FDNY, ( back in the day...), Permitted FDNY Aux. & some Civilians,
past NYPD Perimeters (Police Lines), at Fire Scenes.   8)
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 09, 2016, 12:17:34 AM
STAjo...yes i remember them ....I still have my original red "Fire Line Card" from the early '60s ...got to dig it out & see if it was signed by  Fire Commissioner Cavanaugh or probably Thompson.....on the subject of Commissioner Edward Thompson his 2 Sons were OTJ one was a FF in 126 (before i was CPT there) & the other was one of my ECCs when i was the CPT of 275......on another thought when i was at Pudgie Walsh's Funeral at STA (St Thomas Aquinas) BKLYN recently i was thinking of you relating that you went to Grammar School there back when (hence your screen name)...wish we could turn back some clocks other than at the end of Daylight savings time.....as a kid after we moved from Manhattan i was in another STA for a short time before getting the boot for bad grades but it was St Thomas The Apostle in QNS still remember the STA embroidered on the ties.   
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: Disp51 on November 11, 2016, 12:08:24 PM
I found both my father's and my Fire Line Cards, both were signed by Robert O. Lowery.  Other than badges of the Fire Bell club, etc. are there any officially issued ID's similar to those cards in use today?
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on November 30, 2016, 09:27:40 PM
1960 photo of FD rally at City Hall for ... OT..a 40 hr work week & paid Holidays..... notice how serious the PD guys look (not) as they try to keep FFs from breaking ranks.... www.ebay.com/itm/CT-PHOTO-akc-606-Fire-Department-New-York-City-/112212164398?hash=item1a205dbf2e:g:BOAAAOSw5cNYM5NO


Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on December 01, 2016, 12:41:50 AM
1961 BKLYN Fire... the FF w/the Scaling Ladder is FF Harry Prie then assigned to ENG*230.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-SCALING-LADDER-RESCUE-1961-ARTICLE-/121679062203?hash=item1c54a324bb:g:Dd8AAOSwBahVf2st
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: mack on December 01, 2016, 01:09:57 PM
Note FD members are in civilian clothes.  Commissioner Cavanaugh issued order prohibiting wearing uniforms following previous protest at city hall when thousands of FFs marched in uniform to protest low wages. 

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on December 03, 2016, 05:01:14 AM
Early 1941 FDNY gas  masks test's ....  http://www.ebay.com/itm/CT-PHOTO-akc-632-Fire-Department-New-York-City-/112223114333?hash=item1a2104d45d:g:V6UAAOSwImRYQOE5
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on December 09, 2016, 01:33:36 AM
THE BKLYN THEATER FIRE....  https://thousandpointsofright.blogspot.com/2016/12/little-known-details-of-1876-brooklyn.html
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on December 16, 2016, 04:53:16 PM
THIS WEEK IN 1960....   DOUBLE PLANE CRASH & SHIP FIRE..... http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,40345.msg130974.html#msg130974
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on December 16, 2016, 10:37:03 PM
Thanks to JOR176....    http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/1960-new-york-city-plane-crash-back-gallery-1.1549629
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on December 23, 2016, 01:48:43 AM
THE 1970s....    http://all-that-is-interesting.com/1970s-new-york-photos#1
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: nfd2004 on December 23, 2016, 12:20:13 PM
THE 1970s....    http://all-that-is-interesting.com/1970s-new-york-photos#1

 Looking at those photos today, it is still hard to believe how bad things really were then. Some referred to places in New York City as a War Zone. There was also a guy roaming the streets who called himself; "The Son of Sam", who would walk up to cars and randomly shoot innocent people.

 It was sometimes a two or three hour wait to get an ambulance. The police and fire department was completely overwhelmed. I think most people, including the Federal Government, just wrote the place off. I remember discussing with friends, while sometimes in the middle of this environment, that maybe the military needs to come in here.

 Thank you "68jk09" for sharing this with us. Now I hope to share it with a few others who also might remember when NYC was like this.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: raybrag on December 23, 2016, 03:08:31 PM
If I'm not mistaken, the GMan worked with David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) in the Bronx Post Office.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: nfd2004 on December 23, 2016, 07:09:22 PM
If I'm not mistaken, the GMan worked with David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) in the Bronx Post Office.

 That's correct Ray. But I think they worked together in a post office in Yonkers at the time.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on December 23, 2016, 08:42:11 PM
If I'm not mistaken, the GMan worked with David Berkowitz (Son of Sam) in the Bronx Post Office.

 That's correct Ray. But I think they worked together in a post office in Yonkers at the time.
  He worked where I worked at the Bronx General Post Office on Grand Concourse & 149th St. He was on the 2pm to 12:30am afternoon shift working on the LSM (automated letter sorting machines). I worked the 8am to 4:30pm tour mostly at the lobby windows, the Registry Section and sometimes in the main money vault but I often did overtime manually sorting letters from 4:30pm to 6:30pm. It was during that time period that we would cross paths and talk while working. The employees had rehearsals once a week for a singing choir group that I accompanied on guitar. David Berkowitz would be coming on duty while we rehearsed in the employee cafeteria and he would have a coffee break listening to the end of our rehearsal. I would then sit there with my guitar and other employees would then ask for me to play requests. Berkowitz asked me if I knew "Purple Haze" by Jimi Hendrix and I would play it although I didn't know all the lyrics. It wasn't 'til after he was cought that I realized that Jimmy Breslin had written about the words: "Son of Sam" can be heard at the end of "Purple Haze" if you played the record backwards. Imagine that? Meanwhile, there was a bounty on his head and rewards were being offered for information leading to his arrest and he was about a foot away from me 3 to 4 times a week. The day they caught him, I received a phone call from a former bandmate who was an undercover cop working out Police Hqtrs asking me the name(s) of coworkers I had previously submitted that I thought were suspicious. I gave them and he said: "You don't know how close you are, just watch the News this afternoon".  :o
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 16, 2017, 01:20:18 AM
JAMAICA GAS EXPLOSION.....(Thanks to Joe Walc FBC for providing it & JOR for forwarding it)......QUOTE..JAMAICA GAS EXPLOSION.... QUOTE.....
On Friday, January 13, 1967 at 0519 hours The Queens CO received an
alarm from pull box 4758. The box location was 101st Ave and Creskill
Place in South Jamaica. Due to an alarm response the first due companies
Engine 303 and Ladder 126 (quarters 10412 Princeton St off Liberty Ave)
were unavailable. Engine 298 and Ladder 127 arrived on the scene of a
massive gas leak. They immediately evacuated homes in the area. At 0530
hours a gas main exploded in a fireball. Engine 298 and Ladder 127 rigs
were fully engulfed in flames. The 13th Division transmitted the 3rd and
some subsequent alarms. By the time it was under control a total of 13
alarms were transmitted. Upon arrival Chief of Department, John T.
O'Hagan took on command of the incident. At the time, this was the most
alarms transmitted for a single incident.

Nine residential buildings were destroyed and eight others damaged
during explosion and resulting inferno. Several commercial buildings
including a paint store suffered damage in addition to garages and sheds.

Fortunately due to the evacuation efforts of FDNY and NYPD there were no
fatalities or serious injuries.

Chief O'Hagan promised the crew of Ladder 127 that they will be assigned
a tower ladder due to their loss. Engine 298's International Harvester
pumper was also replaced with a new Mack rig.

Ladder 127 was proud to become the first tower ladder in Queens, but
some firefighters regretted it, as they responded to all parts of the
borough. The Rockaway's were the worse where they had an arson for hire
group and a few pyromaniacs burning down vacant bungalows during the
fall and winter months.

The cause of the blast was a defective Brooklyn Union Gas Co. drip-pot
in the gas main. Drip pots were eventually removed from their system.

Getty Images has an outstanding film taken during the expolosion, here
is the link:
www.gettyimages.com/detail/video/early-morning-gas-main-explosion-in-queens-houses-and-news-footage/454006694
by Joe Walc Fire Bell Club.....UNQUOTE.

Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: memory master on January 16, 2017, 07:35:34 AM
One little correction in that 'Blast from the past', 298 at the time had one of those 1960 Ward LaFrance "Fire Brand' model rigs. They did have International Harvester 6 cylinder engines in them however.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: johnd248 on January 16, 2017, 10:47:01 AM
I remember when the man on watch at E 248 in Flatbush woke up his replacement and said there is something big going on in Queens but we are never going there.  Shortly after, as the event escalated, E 248 along with many other Brooklyn units made the trek to Jamaica Queens to operate at the fire.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 20, 2017, 12:37:08 AM
1970 photo of LAD*24 w/a 1963 Seagrave w/plywood roof covering added...... http://www.ebay.com/itm/1970-vintage-original-slide-FDNY-Fire-Department-New-York-24-Truck-NYC-Photo/262813978222?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40757%26meid%3Dc88c0bce2ed941ce87aa87215bff3df5%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D262813972700
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: manhattan on January 20, 2017, 01:06:48 AM
Thanks for that, Chief.  I remember very well seeing members riding the side of the trucks, and the rear step with an arm hooked over the strap, thinking how cool they looked, especially when they waved to people (kids) they knew.   I know that safety is above all, as it should be, but still, nothing beats "cool".

24 Truck was in my cousin's house and I remember how strange it was to see apparatus with protective coverings.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 20, 2017, 01:30:05 AM
1913 JGB MEDAL RECIPIENT FF SENECA LARKE....     http://www.ebay.com/itm/1913-NATIVE-AMERICAN-FIRE-FIGHTER-NYC-HERO-IDd-INDIAN-FIREMAN-VINTAGE-PHOTOGRAPH-/122314758154?hash=item1c7a87180a:g:GI8AAOSwjDZYfl8M
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on January 20, 2017, 01:39:22 AM
A REPORT ON THE JAMAICA GAS FIRE IN REPLY # 343 ABOVE (sad number)...... http://udspace.udel.edu/bitstream/handle/19716/1248/RN13.pdf?sequence=1
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on February 04, 2017, 01:56:07 AM
Another report on the 1967 Jamaica Gas Fire from the Bell Club Newsletter Thanks to JOR.... QUOTE...50 years ago this month, on Friday January 13, 1967 a major gas explosion occurred at 101 Avenue and Creskill Place in Queens. This incident resulted in the transmission of 13 alarms. The following is an edited and abbreviated version of the run-down that appeared in the January-February-March 1967 issue of the “Third Alarmer”. I have also taken the liberty of using some of the abbreviations I use in summaries of the current rundowns. See WNYF 1967 2nd issue for additional information regarding this incident.
5:19AM: Box 4758 - E270, E298, L127, BC51 (first due units E303, L126 & BC50 were on another run). 5:31AM: 22-4758 - B/O BC51 “for a massive gas rupture. Precautionary 2nd alarm transmitted to utilize companies to evacuate the neighborhood in conjunction with the NYPD. All units to report 1 block west of Cresskill Pl and 101 Ave and meet BC51. Citizens in immediate area are being evacuated. Brooklyn Union Gas urgently requested to respond immediately”. Response: E308, E302, E275, R4, L155, DC13, Searchlight 24, Safety Unit Car 500, Photo Unit, FC2, SAT3 and Car 956 (Satellite Officer). 5:36AM: Third alarm B/O DC13 (DC Winegar) - E315, E305, E301, L125, BC54...FD Ambulance 3, Superpumper System and Assistant Chief on duty – Francis J Love (Car 8)...DC13 reported gas leak had erupted into a flaming holocaust!!! ”Flaming fire now erupting from manholes”...DOUBTFUL... 5:39AM: Fourth Alarm B/O DC13...E293, E317, E299 & L142...”BC51 to Queens----Have all 4th alarm companies respond in to fire and use heavy caliber streams in any direction possible. Special call two additional BC’s (BC50, BC39) and have them assume control on east side of fire at Allendale. Also notify Con Edison....” 5:47AM: Via Radio – “DC13 to Queens --- All 4th alarm units to respond North and West and assume defensive positions...TRANSMIT A FIFTH ALARM and have units approach from the East...SEVERAL BUILDINGS NOW INVOLVED!!” FIFTH ALARM: E319, E236, E252, E232 & L151...5:50AM: Car 5 – Chief of Department JOHN T. O’HAGAN... ”Responding to Fifth alarm...notify gas utility companies to respond...emphasize this is a major incident...will require abnormal response of
(utilities)...everything available to be sent...Have high officials of such companies also respond 5:51AM: AC FRANCIS LOVE...”Have arrived at scene at 101 Avenue and Liverpool Street body of fire approximately 100’ in diameter...Car 8 located 100’ East of fire...approximately half a dozen buildings involved...practically impossible to enter the fire area...” 5:55AM: Car 8 – “Recommend to Car 5 (en-route) that a 3rd alarm Boro Call be transmitted”. Car 5 agreed and advised that instructions be given to units responding on Boro Call to have a chief in command of each sector and have them anticipate the arrival and control of companies responding...5:56AM: A 3rd alarm response of engines only normally assigned to Brooklyn Box 958 – Atlantic & Bedford Aves. responded to Queens Box 4758...5:58AM: Car 8...”Have (Boro Call) companies respond in on Liberty & approximately 100 Ave. Send 4 companies to 101 Ave and Allendale”...1st alarm E235, E219, E280...2nd alarm: E214, E234, E209...3rd alarm: E249, E256, E230, E210...6:04AM: Car 8 – “Recommend to Car 5 that Boro Call be increased to a FIFTH ALARM & have these units respond in to 101 Ave. and Brisbin St.” Car 5 approved recommendation & radioed dispatcher to transmit 5th alarm Boro Call and to stand-by to receive instructions to set up a defense...Requested radio be kept clear for urgent fire traffic from Car 5 – Chief of Dept. O’HAGAN. At 6:05AM the following report received from Car 5...”Center of fire incident is to be taken as 101 Ave & Brisbin St...East Front – Allendale St; West Front – Sanders Pl; North Front – Atlantic Ave; South Front – Liberty Av...Have one Staff Officer on each (of above) sectors or fronts... 6:06AM: 4th alarm: E211, E226, E217, E207; 5th alarm: E269, E222, E248, E220...6:14AM: TOWER LADDER #1 special called to scene by orders of Car 5...6:15AM: Satellite 1 to respond to 101 Ave & Brisbin; Satellite 2 to approach from North end of fire and stretch lines two blocks below fire area... 6:20AM: SUPERPUMPER responding to Sutphin Blvd & 103 Ave where a large 48” main was available for water supply...6:35AM: “Car 5 to CITY-WIDE ”Prepare to transmit an additional Boro Call...will give order when required...have all utility companies respond to 101 Ave & Brisbin St“. 6:37AM: “CITY-WIDE to Car 5”...CON ED and all
utilities notified and are responding...6:50AM: Car 5 advised all incoming Boro Call units & Tower Ladder to respond to Liverpool and 101 Aves. 6:56AM: “BY ORDERS OF CAR 5 – TRANSMIT AN ADDITIONAL 3RD ALARM BORO CALL”.6:57AM: A 3rd alarm response of engines only due to respond to Manhattan Box 174 Bowery and Canal St, were to respond instead to Queens Box 4758...1st alarm; E9, E55, E31...2nd alarm; E17, E15, E7, E32...3rd alarm; E27, E33, E13 and E10. 6:59AM: “CITY-WIDE TO FIELD COMM UNIT” ”The American Red Cross requests all evacuees to respond to St Pius Church, 106 Ave & Liverpool St”...Field Comm 2 complied with this request and presently hundreds of men women and children – in various stages of shock and fright – came to the Church seeking help and comfort which was quickly forthcoming....7:03AM: (Via Manhattan Radio)...”All 3rd alarm engine companies responding from Manhattan are to proceed to Sutphin Blvd and 103 Ave and prepare to relay water (from Superpumper)...”7:13AM: PROGRESS REPORT from Car 5: “Fire front on 97 Ave., Allendale St, Liberty Ave & Cresskill Pl. Center of fire is a large gas main break at Brisbin & 101 Ave. There are an undetermined number of private residential homes that have been involved in fire. Unable to extinguish main body of fire which is caused by a large column of illuminating gas which is burning at a height of approximately 50 to 75 feet...Defensive lines have been established to attempt to confine fire to present involvement. 8:11AM: BY ORDER OF CAR 5: All companies up to and including the (original) 5th alarm assigned on Box 4758 are to be relieved at the scene & their relief are to report to 101 Ave. and Allendale St. Relief of all Boro Call units are to remain in quarters unless receiving special instructions...9:51AM: PROGRESS REPORT #8 FROM CAR 5: “Structural fires under control...gas fires extinguished...gas leakage has not been controlled...overall control will not be given until gas leak is stopped.10:05AM: SOCONY GAS & OIL UNIT to respond...11:16AM: Satellite 1 in service... Satellites 2 & 3 still
operating...12:02PM: SUPERPUMPER SYSTEM leaving scene by orders of DAC Ratner...3:21PM: PROGRESS REPORT #9 FROM CAR 5: “Gas leakage stopped...overall problem under control. Car 5 leaving the scene...END OF REPORT.     UNQUOTE.


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Post by: 68jk09 on February 10, 2017, 05:59:53 AM
THE NORMANDY SHIP FIRE 1942....  https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=uss+normandy+fire     .......... At the Wake for Ret DV*14 DC Mario Cherci there were pictures displayed...one of his appreciative Daughters showed me him climbing down a cargo net on the side of The Normandy as one of the last FDNY Members off the ship ...(not sure where he was working that day) at the time of his Funeral he was listed as the oldest FDNY Retiree......Retired DC Mario E. Cherchi Passed To A Higher Level on 1-11-13 at age 98 the oldest living FDNY Member....Reposing at Martin A. Gleason Funeral home 36-46 Bell Blvd Bayside QNS Fri 1-18-13 ...2-5 & 7-10....Mass Sat 1-19-13 at Our Lady Of The Blessed Sacrament Bayside QNS.....internment @ Mt St Marys Cemetery................................REST IN PEACE BROTHER.....PRAYERS FOR THE COMFORT OF THE FAMILIES.




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Post by: 68jk09 on February 12, 2017, 10:57:03 PM
FIRE LINE BADGE ....   http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-c-1905-NYFD-FDNY-Fire-Lines-Badge-Gamewell-Fire-Box-Hallmarked/192100881877?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D2d3eb4bfde9d4511929a3aae1233cb85%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D172492726077
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 20, 2017, 03:29:23 AM
1965 DRILL AT THE BKLYN NAVY YARD W/THE SUPERPUMPER IN THE BACKGROUND.... http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-original-FDNY-Photo-8X10-1965-Engines-210-211-104-Brooklyn-Bridge/351985425375?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D41393%26meid%3D80875a673ac94457ad59f057a1ae5bd2%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D351985425813
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 26, 2017, 03:56:06 PM
FEBRUARY 26, ...... FEBRUARY 26, 1993 ...THE WTC BOMBING....CONTINUED RIP TO THE SIX...NEVER FORGET ! ..NEVER FORGIVE ! ...  http://www.history.com/news/remembering-the-1993-world-trade-center-bombing  ..... FROM WIKEPEDIA.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing   .....ALSO ON FEBRUARY 26,1988 A 22 YEAR OLD IS ASSASSINATED IN SOUTH JAMAICA AROUND THE CORNER FROM 303/126 ..... www.nypdangels.com/cop/cop.php?id=71 ....CONTINUED RIP PO EDWARD BYRNE....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Byrne_(police_officer)..... ARTICLE CONTAINING TRIBUTE VIDEO'S  .http://www.americanpolicenews.com/eddie.html ... ANNUAL CEREMONY EARLIER THIS MORNING.. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/nypd-murder-sparked-city-crackdown-drug-trade-article-1.2982663
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 26, 2017, 07:15:34 PM
Too bad the city has now back pedaled on strict enforcement of laws & eliminated tactics like Stop & Frisk etc, etc...too much politically correct BS.....political correctness is someones opinion not a law....Law's are exactly that Law's which should be enforced with out worrying about hurting someone's "feelings" or fearing a protest. 
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 26, 2017, 08:12:55 PM
Some thoughts on the '93 & '01 WTC Crimes....at the '93 job it appeared to be either a transformer or a car in the lower level of WTC 1....many Units responded & took positions like we normally would when our initial visual size up appears consistent w/a transformer or auto & not anticipating even a partial collapse.....at the '01 job it was apparent that a plane had entered an upper floor & definite potential for falling objects of many sorts (some already obvious) so many Units took an apparatus position accordingly still enough Rigs were hit subsequently but not as many as would have been if the '93 job had somehow resulted in a collapse (i am talking about occupied Rigs or operating w/Members in the proximity) on 9-11 even several Rigs that were thoughtfully placed under the North & South Walkways on West St were hit......something else to be thankful for that day in '01 was that school was back in session....suppose it was a week earlier & guys had brought their youngsters to work at the end of summer vacation...how many Rigs would have had kids sitting in them ?......as bad as the incident was on 9-11 Thank God it was not worse.


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Post by: 68jk09 on March 25, 2017, 06:01:36 PM
3-25-11 CONTINUED RIP TO ALL...   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_Shirtwaist_Factory_fire
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Post by: 68jk09 on March 25, 2017, 06:21:26 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/new-yorkers-join-remember-tragic-triangle-shirtwaist-fire-article-1.3008369
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Post by: 68jk09 on March 31, 2017, 02:23:01 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NY-Fire-Alarm-Call-Box-1950-original-vintage-pictorial/272603968135?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D8cb828c30b194a808794c0bc26a89b1a%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D272603968135
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Post by: mack on March 31, 2017, 12:07:41 PM
Old FDNY pictures - I think this has been posted before but pictures of many eras.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZodUxRn9WU
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Post by: manhattan on March 31, 2017, 01:04:49 PM
Good stuff there, mack.  Thanks.
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Post by: mack on March 31, 2017, 02:01:26 PM
1938 FDNY Marine Company roll-call:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnMs_j81rVg&t=46s
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Post by: mack on April 03, 2017, 09:59:39 AM
E 216 (then E 116) responding 1907:

(https://s28.postimg.cc/4uk6n0ww9/E_216_16.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/4uk6n0ww9/)
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Post by: 68jk09 on April 08, 2017, 11:21:19 PM
Can anybody ID anybody ?....   https://twitter.com/UFANYC/status/850470660761694208/photo/1?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ufanyc.org%2F
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Post by: memory master on April 09, 2017, 05:59:18 AM
Nice photo. Obviously taken by the training building on Welfare Island.
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Post by: 68jk09 on June 18, 2017, 06:14:33 PM
6-18 ...FROM NYC FIRE WIRE..... 6-18-22 & 6-18-33...CONTINUED RIP BROTHERS.... QUOTE....This date in history, the FDNY remembers the following members who died in the line of duty:
FF Adrian Curnen, E-26. Injured June 15, 1922, died June 18, 1922.
FF Curnen was off duty at his home in Far Rockaway when he went to help at a vacant house fire near his house. 2 chimney's on the house collapsed, the bricks crashed through the roof & 2nd floor. 5 members were removed unconscious. FF Donnelly & Curnen died.
Lt John W Smith, L-115. Injured May 19, 1933, died June 18, 1933
Box 7209 - 25-19 Borden Avenue, Queens.
Lt Smith forced a door and entered to search when he fell through the floor to the basement. UNQUOTE.


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Post by: 68jk09 on June 22, 2017, 02:38:26 PM
TAKE ME BACK....   http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4628540/Fascinating-photographs-New-York-1980s.html#ixzz4kkYtAmLQ
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Post by: 68jk09 on July 21, 2017, 08:13:45 PM
http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-neighborhoods-article-1.3338478
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Post by: 68jk09 on September 25, 2017, 03:54:13 AM
THE SENIOR MAN...    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/15/nyregion/the-senior-guy.html?mcubz=0
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Post by: mack on September 25, 2017, 10:39:11 AM
THE SENIOR MAN...    http://www.nytimes.com/2001/07/15/nyregion/the-senior-guy.html?mcubz=0

Excellent article chief - how true.  Thank you.
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Post by: 68jk09 on November 14, 2017, 07:24:46 PM
CLICK ON ARTIE'S PICTURE...   https://www.pinterest.com/pin/489836896955913239
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Post by: 68jk09 on December 07, 2017, 09:00:21 PM
1986 FDNY MEDAL DAY VIDEO...JAMES GORDON BENNETT MEDAL WAS RECEIVED  POSTHUMOUSLY FOR  CPT JOHN MCDONNELL .....THE FF HE PUSHED TO SAFETY WAS PETE BIELFELD LAD*42 KILLED ON 9-11...CONTINUED REST IN PEACE TO BOTH.....    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=6&v=xIgkws-qLJs
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Post by: mikeindabronx on December 07, 2017, 11:02:11 PM
Continued Rest In Peace
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Post by: nfd2004 on December 18, 2017, 03:50:44 PM
December 18, 1960.

 Two planes collide in mid air over NYC. One lands in the streets of Brooklyn and the other lands in Staten Island. Additional information can be found in the FDNY and NYC Firehouse thread under Engine 219/Ladder 105. I think other stories and photos have been posted on this site as well about this incident.

 As a kid I remember watching this on the news.

 Some photos showing the total devastation.

 Thanks to the friend who sent me this.

 www.nydailynews.com/new-york/1960-new-york-city-plane-crash-back-gallery-1.1549629
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Post by: memory master on December 19, 2017, 02:09:23 PM
I remember that day. We were all in the auditorium of St. Fidelis school in Queens for a movie I think. One of the nuns came to the front and said there was an airplane crash and that we were going to pray. I saw more on tv that night at 7 pm when John Tilman reported on WPIX channel 11 and Gloria Okon did the weather. Many, many years later, I worked with a Deputy Chief in EMS who had just started his career as an "Ambulance Attendant", as it was called then, who was assigned to Kings County Hospital. He told me in great detail what the Sterling Place job was like. Small world at times. Continue to rest in peace and God Bless the victims of that two borough disaster.
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Post by: raybrag on December 19, 2017, 03:18:19 PM
I was a sophomore at St. Francis College which at the time was on Butler St. between Smith St. & Court St., or about 10 blocks from the crash site.  Several of my buddies and I decided to cut class and walk down to see what was going on (you could see the smoke from the campus).  It was a nightmare scene.  Of course we couldn't get really close, but we were near enough to see the tail section of the plane, and the huge fire from the Pillar of Fire church.  Something I'll never forget.
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Post by: johnd248 on December 19, 2017, 04:01:52 PM
Wow, Raybrag; I thought I was old but I was only a senior in high school in Brooklyn when this crash and the Constellation fire occurred.
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Post by: raybrag on December 19, 2017, 06:52:03 PM
Nah, John . . . yer a young'n. ;)
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Post by: JOR176 on December 19, 2017, 08:20:58 PM
I was working for Chubb & Sons Insurance Co. at 90 John St.I left work and went to E280 picked up my Auxiliary gear and walked to the site. The site was awesome and gruesome at the same time.
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Post by: mack on December 19, 2017, 10:28:24 PM
SI crash site was Miller Field, a US Army airfield in New Dorp.  Fortunately no buildings were struck with flaming wreckage.  E 165 and L 85 were new companies - 1st due.  E 165 arrived at far end of base and crashed thru gate to gain immediate access.  Did not wait for MP access at far end of field.  Engine 165 officer ordered rig to crash thru gate for FDNY units to get to victims.  2nd alarm transmitted by BC Roger Carmody, 23rd Bn.  Probably E 165, E 159, E 162, E 161, E 160, E 152, L 85, L 82, L 81, L 83, R 5 (located at L 78), Bn 21, Bn 21, D 8.

VN Bridge not built till 1964.   E 166/L 86 not organized until 1963.

     http://www.silive.com/news/2010/12/midair_airliner_crash_over_sta.html
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Post by: nfd2004 on December 20, 2017, 06:46:32 AM
SI crash site was Miller Field, a US Army airfield in New Dorp.  Fortunately no buildings were struck with flaming wreckage.  E 165 and L 85 were new companies - 1st due.  E 165 arrived at far end of base and crashed thru gate to gain immediate access.  Did not wait for MP access at far end of field.  Engine 165 officer ordered rig to crash thru gate for FDNY units to get to victims.  2nd alarm transmitted by BC Roger Carmody, 23rd Bn.  Probably E 165, E 159, E 162, E 161, E 160, E 152, L 85, L 82, L 81, L 83, R 5 (located at L 78), Bn 21, Bn 21, D 8.

VN Bridge not built till 1964.   E 166/L 86 not organized until 1963.

     http://www.silive.com/news/2010/12/midair_airliner_crash_over_sta.html

 mack, I'm sure most of us had no idea of that. Except that the plane had landed in a field. This was a very serious and major event in itself. Interesting as well that you point out that the VN Bridge had not been built yet either. To get coverage and help for those Staten Island companies had to be a very difficult thing. They basically were on their own.

 As we look back, I have to wonder how did they do it then. There were no computers for the dispatchers to use. Two very serious plane crashes going on at the same time in NYC.

 Over the years and decades NYC has certainly had their share of serious, major events. From major fires, terrorist attacks, building collapses, water rescues, train crashes, plane crashes, fires on ships and in high rises. Fires in every type of building anybody can think of. Plus the millions of people daily, all depending on FDNY.

 As I see it, the members of the FDNY, NYPD, those dispatchers, are some of the BEST. They have to be. There's just too much at stake here.
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Post by: 1261Truckie on December 20, 2017, 10:26:43 AM
A little late with my response, sorry, been a few busy days out here......
I remember we heard a boom sometime during the morning and our teacher, at St. Teresa's (on Classon and St. John's) thought it might have been thunder (it was a foggy, cold and damp morning). Walking home a lunch time, all you could hear were sirens and the smell of jet fuel was everywhere. After school I walked over to Flatbush Ave.
Years later, some of the guys in 280 and 132 told me some of the stories from that day. Truly incredible. Continued Rest in Peace to those lost that day.
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 23, 2018, 01:15:49 AM
http://douglascountygensoc.org/photos002.html
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 23, 2018, 06:44:18 PM
CLICK RIGHT ARROW...   https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2015/may/18/welcome-to-fear-city-the-inside-story-of-new-yorks-civil-war-40-years-on#img-1
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 26, 2018, 02:51:33 AM
FEBRUARY 26 IN HISTORY ...... FEBRUARY 26, 1993 ...THE WTC BOMBING....CONTINUED REST IN PEACE TO THE SIX...NEVER FORGET ! ..NEVER FORGIVE ! ... www.history.com/news/remembering-the-1993-world-trade-center-bombing ..... FROM WIKIPEDIA.....  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1993_World_Trade_Center_bombing  ......ALSO ON FEBRUARY 26,1988 A 22 YEAR OLD IS ASSASSINATED IN SOUTH JAMAICA AROUND THE CORNER FROM 303/126 ..... www.nypdangels.com/cop/cop.php?id=71 ....CONTINUED REST IN PEACE PO EDWARD BYRNE....   
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Byrne_(police_officer)     ..... TRIBUTE VIDEO'S IN ARTICLE.. www.americanpolicenews.com/eddie.html .
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 26, 2018, 04:33:01 AM
^^^^^^^^^ 22 Feb 2018, 17:33 #1

Dog named after slain NYPD cop guards memorial service
By Tina Moore
February 21, 2018 | 3:30pm | Updated

As hundreds of people filed into St. Patrick’s Cathedral Wednesday morning for a mass in memory of a cop killed 30 years ago, a German shepherd sat quietly outside the church’s doors.
Most people probably didn’t notice the pooch, but he’s special. He’s a vapor wake dog, a class of K-9s trained to detect and deter suicide bombers.
“Today a lot of you didn’t realize as you walked into this beautiful cathedral, you passed by the newest addition to the NYPD,” the department’s head of legal Larry Byrne said.
The new dog is named Eddie after Larry’s brother, Edward R. Byrne, who was killed while sitting in a patrol car outside a Queens home on Feb. 26, 1988, protecting a witness who had agreed to testify about drug activity. A gunman walked up to the car and shot Byrne in the head.
His death sent shock waves through the city and led to a federal grant program in the officer’s name that provides money to state and local departments.
Byrne explained that the dog was named after his brother to make sure people never forget.
About 500 people attended the Byrne memorial in Manhattan — on what would have been the slain officer’s 52nd birthday.
“Today is Eddie’s birthday,” Byrne said. “He was killed five days after his 22nd birthday.”
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 26, 2018, 05:04:37 AM
^^^^^^ Just as much as there was a take back the City & turnaround in 1988 after the senseless Murder of PO Edward Byrne why are we in the mid to late 2000's backpedaling & coddeling with things like halting "Stop Question & Frisk" & on a lesser note now allowing Quality Of Life Crimes including free rides in Transit ...."Turnstile Jumping" to be disregarded ?... if you ride you should pay...this is all the breakdown of Decent Society for votes.


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Post by: nfd2004 on February 26, 2018, 07:59:58 AM
^^^^^^ Just as much as there was a take back the City & turnaround in 1988 after the senseless Murder of PO Edward Byrne why are we in the mid to late 2000's backpedaling & coddeling with things like halting "Stop Question & Frisk" & on a lesser note now allowing Quality Of Life Crimes including free rides in Transit ...."Turnstile Jumping" to be disregarded ?... if you ride you should pay...this is all the breakdown of Decent Society for votes.

 I remember being in the South Bronx, with two other friends of mine doing our buffing thing. A police car pulled us over and they got us out of the car. A car with Connecticut plates and the three of us just didn't fit in within the neighborhood about 2 am. The members of the NYPD "stopped us, questioned us and frisked us". And yes, they had their guns pointed right on us.

 When it was over of course they apologized to us and let us go. They explained why they stopped us and we fully understood the reason. All of us had no problem with that at all and actually we were GLAD to see that the guys were doing their job.

 From their point of view, they had no idea what we were doing down there riding around through some of those drug infested streets. Most people seeing us wouldn't think us guys are just out chasing fire trucks. So I'm sure those cops felt the same way too. That's why they pulled us over.
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 26, 2018, 05:49:33 PM
2-26-93....  https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=NY6UWry8JsKa_QaQrbvoDw&q=1993+world+trade+center&oq=1993+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.0.0i131k1l2j0l5j0i131k1j0l2.6564.8284.0.11137.5.5.0.0.0.0.80.332.5.5.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.5.332....0.9TjkFkGdh8o
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 26, 2018, 06:00:31 PM
2-26-88...https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=dI-UWsDiNeGxggelyqToAg&q=edward+byrne+ceremony+2018&oq=edward+byrne+ceremony+2018&gs_l=psy-ab.3...1905.16320.0.17543.26.22.0.4.4.0.84.1446.22.22.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.25.1410...0j38j46j0i131k1j0i131i46k1j46i131k1j0i46k1j0i22i30k1j0i22i10i30k1j33i21k1j33i160k1j33i22i29i30k1.0.OiZAaiRc_jM
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Post by: mikeindabronx on March 05, 2018, 10:37:58 PM
https://flic.kr/s/aHskwZYZQC (https://flic.kr/s/aHskwZYZQC)
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Post by: 68jk09 on April 04, 2018, 09:17:16 PM
SHOOTING AT ENG*42s QTRS IN THE 1980s.......    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VSYWxiJVio&feature=youtu.be
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Post by: 68jk09 on April 10, 2018, 03:24:44 AM
DUCK & COVER... (how many kids could not go to sleep at night because of this threat back then ?)....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2kdpAGDu8s
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Post by: 68jk09 on May 01, 2018, 05:10:39 AM
NYC 1911..(My Father was 1 yr old then)..i was always curious about the "dress code" back in those days..where were they all going dressed up ?....how many of us have walked these same streets in later times ?.... https://petapixel.com/2018/04/17/take-a-trip-through-new-york-city-in-the-year-1911/
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Post by: raybrag on May 01, 2018, 08:03:32 AM
NYC 1911..(My Father was 1 yr old then)..i was always curious about the "dress code" back in those days..where were they all going dressed up ?....how many of us have walked these same streets in later times ?.... https://petapixel.com/2018/04/17/take-a-trip-through-new-york-city-in-the-year-1911/

Great video, Chief; thanks for posting.  What struck me was the HUGE women's hats . . . and they all were wearing one.  BTW:  my father was 6 in 1911.
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Post by: 68jk09 on May 05, 2018, 03:52:57 AM
A 1969 photo depicting a Member preparing to don the old (not often used back then ) Scott Mask as per the then evolution...Helmet on one corner & the Wilson Face Piece on the other corner of the storage suitcase ... then actual mask cylinder was turned on & the regulator gauge checked then the mask pulled from the suitcase & swung on your back then tested along with the Face Piece test & then putting the Helmet on.....(after opening link..click on picture to enlarge) ..... www.flickr.com/photos/fdnyhome/27986083148/in/album-72157695701934964/
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Post by: kidfrmqns on May 06, 2018, 09:11:37 AM
Does anyone else remember some FDNY training videos that you could pick up on your home TV by changing to a random channel on your home TV? I thought the training series was called "On The Job." This would have been in the late 70's or early 80's.
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Post by: 68jk09 on May 06, 2018, 02:18:17 PM
Does anyone else remember some FDNY training videos that you could pick up on your home TV by changing to a random channel on your home TV? I thought the training series was called "On The Job." This would have been in the late 70's or early 80's.
Yes i remember them....i think it was WNYC...it was made by the Div Of Training & was broadcast at 1400 & 1900 hrs to coincide with the Company Drill hours.
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Post by: memory master on May 06, 2018, 04:53:28 PM
Yes Chief it was WNYC which broadcast on channel 31 at the time in the mid 60's. There were some informative airings of drill materials.
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Post by: nfd2004 on May 06, 2018, 04:57:39 PM
 I remember them too. Long before the days of color TV.

 My father was on the job in Bridgeport (CT) and he would watch them too.
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Post by: 811 on May 06, 2018, 10:07:11 PM
"On The Job" the FDNY television training program was broadcast on Channel 31, then known as WUHF. An article in WNYF (1st/1962) covers the program's inception, early program topics, and brief instructions on how to adapt your television set to receive it.

A follow up  piece in WNYF (2nd/1965), page 15, gives a larger list of early programs and says that they were to be broadcast from the Municipal Building over WNYC on Channel 31 UHF on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday evenings at 7.30pm. The early logo pictured here
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Post by: kidfrmqns on May 07, 2018, 02:44:30 PM
It was still broadcast into the early 80's correct? I was a kid in the late 70's and early 80's and I remember flipping through the channels and coming across it.
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Post by: 68jk09 on June 04, 2018, 06:12:06 PM
7-3-99...CPT VINCENT J. FOWLER LAD*173 COVERING.....CONTINUED REST IN PEACE... https://www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=MLcVW8PXFs2D5wLG6bbQDg&q=LINE+OF+DUTY+DEATH+OF+FDNY+CPT+VINCENT+FOWLER&oq=LINE+OF+DUTY+DEATH+OF+FDNY+CPT+VINCENT+FOWLER&gs_l=psy-ab.3...2513.21903.0.25986.45.38.0.7.7.0.145.3667.22j16.38.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.42.3445...0j0i131k1j33i22i29i30k1j0i22i30k1j33i21k1j33i160k1.0.Ggqgcj6Ppm4
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Post by: 68jk09 on June 05, 2018, 01:32:42 AM
^^^^^ CPT Fowlers Father Vinny Sr. ( USMC...FF LAD*123...LT LAD*108 ...CPT LAD*105...BC BN*8....BC SAFETY*BN ) was my first LT in 108 ....I sold one of my cars a "71 Plymouth Fury to the family which later became Vinny Jr's first car i used to see it parked outside St John's East where Vinny Jr. was a FF as i responded by Qtrs in R*2....Vinny Jr. (FF LAD*123....LT LAD*7....COV CPT LAD*173) was a thinking & Professional FF/Officer....he knew how to treat the FFs & also train them & bring up new ideas to make things safer (& also how to keep things on a light note during down times).....he also had two Brothers OTJ in busy Units.
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Post by: nfd2004 on June 05, 2018, 07:28:58 AM
^^^^^ CPT Fowlers Father Vinny Sr. ( USMC...FF LAD*123...LT LAD*108 ...CPT LAD*105...BC BN*8....BC SAFETY*BN ) was my first LT in 108 ....I sold one of my cars a "71 Plymouth Fury to the family which later became Vinny Jr's first car i used to see it parked outside St John's East where Vinny Jr. was a FF as i responded by Qtrs in R*2....Vinny Jr. (FF LAD*123....LT LAD*7....COV CPT LAD*173) was a thinking & Professional FF/Officer....he knew how to treat the FFs & also train them & bring up new ideas to make things safer (& also how to keep things on a light note during down times).....he also had two Brothers OTJ in busy Units.

 "THEY REALLY WERE THE GREATEST".

 Putting all of todays "high tech" society aside, "we could ALL still learn from individuals like Capt Fowler Sr and his son Vinny Jr. Although I never knew them, "these were my kind of Role Models".
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Post by: ******* on June 05, 2018, 01:13:28 PM
If I had to list the top 10 guys, firefighters and officers, that I worked with, learned from; Vinny Fowler would be in this list. When I first made deputy in 1980 when you were surplus on a weekday 6x9 or on a weekend many times you were assigned to ride with the Safety Chief. This was when I first met Vinny. Every tour something would come up, response or from history I would learn something from Vinny. I would look forward to riding with him. One perk with Vinny was for the late meal he had a favorite Chinese restaurant in a cellar restaurant in Chinatown, which most of the time was where we ate, great food. It is always said that when you leave the job it is the guys you miss, so true.
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Post by: 68jk09 on June 05, 2018, 06:38:29 PM
6-5-98...ATLANTIC AVE & HINSDALE ST .... CONTINUED REST IN PEACE TO ALL.... www.google.com/search?source=hp&ei=Yg4XW4bfIYz-zgL-lp0Q&q=atlantic+ave+fire+1998&oq=atlantic+ave+fire+&gs_l=psy-ab.1.1.0i22i30k1l3j38l4.1944.7884.0.11233.18.16.0.2.2.0.121.1413.14j2.16.0....0...1c.1.64.psy-ab..0.18.1431...0j0i131k1.0.wlVA2_FsVFA


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Post by: 68jk09 on June 23, 2018, 05:46:19 PM
"YE OLD PANCAKE HOUSE" Fire on 86 St in BKLYN ....i responded to this while in Fire Patrol 3 just before getting OTJ .....i remember a good friend of mine FF Dave Floyd R*2 pulling ceilings with a cigar in his mouth at this job...wish i had a picture of that.... https://www.facebook.com/FDNY/photos/pb.304603755728.-2207520000.1529789700./10156290887655729/?type=3&theater
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Post by: JOR176 on June 23, 2018, 08:27:44 PM
If I had to list the top 10 guys, firefighters and officers, that I worked with, learned from; Vinny Fowler would be in this list. When I first made deputy in 1980 when you were surplus on a weekday 6x9 or on a weekend many times you were assigned to ride with the Safety Chief. This was when I first met Vinny. Every tour something would come up, response or from history I would learn something from Vinny. I would look forward to riding with him. One perk with Vinny was for the late meal he had a favorite Chinese restaurant in a cellar restaurant in Chinatown, which most of the time was where we ate, great food. It is always said that when you leave the job it is the guys you miss, so true.

The Chinese Restaurant was probably Wo Hops    17 Mott St Downstairs.
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Post by: 68jk09 on October 14, 2018, 02:48:12 AM
VARIOUS OLDER RIG PHOTOS....   https://www.ebay.com/sch/mikezbfd/m.html?_ipg=100&_dmd=2&_sop=1
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Post by: 68jk09 on October 21, 2018, 10:06:13 PM
SOME MORE OLDER RIG PHOTOS....   scroll arrow....   https://www.ebay.com/itm/FDNY-Photos/142983522510?hash=item214a7b68ce:g:mVkAAOSwOU9bzNK5
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Post by: 68jk09 on November 02, 2018, 07:30:24 PM
EARLY FDNY PARADE....Manilla Roof Rope's & Atlas Life Saving Belts then Life Net's then Scaling Ladder's being carried starting at the 1:44 mark...... also a shot further on of a Water Tower .... www.loc.gov/item/00563584/


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Post by: 68jk09 on November 16, 2018, 07:15:01 PM
ENG*294....    http://www.qchron.com/editions/central/in-community-s-fight-to-keep-fdny-engine-fails/article_25e7bbec-e6b5-11e8-a709-d737d3c3ba21.html
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Post by: 68jk09 on February 20, 2019, 03:01:48 AM
1987 BAYVIEW HOUSES BKLYN....   https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=313&v=gv3mZYzLCXg
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Post by: JohnnyGage on March 06, 2019, 07:10:11 PM
"On The Job" the FDNY television training program was broadcast on Channel 31, then known as WUHF. An article in WNYF (1st/1962) covers the program's inception, early program topics, and brief instructions on how to adapt your television set to receive it.

A follow up  piece in WNYF (2nd/1965), page 15, gives a larger list of early programs and says that they were to be broadcast from the Municipal Building over WNYC on Channel 31 UHF on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday evenings at 7.30pm. The early logo pictured here

Perhaps I should post this in "War years veteran" death notification. But since "On the Job" is mentioned here, I will pass along the death of retired Lieut. Richard "Dick" Nagel. Dick produced the OTJ series. He passed away December 2018, lived in northern Westchester. Dick  was an actor, director and producer. Most importantly a loving dad and husband.

I met Dick in Montour Falls NY back in early 2003. Dick was the Director of the NYS Firefighter Training Center there. I had recently retired and wanted to "stay in the game" so to speak. So I signed up for the six day "Firefighter Instructor Methodology" course that is seldom given. The course required you to stay on campus at this pre-war converted convent for the duration of the course. I lived about 5 hours away, so that worked for me. On my first day, I arrived early, walking through the empty halls I noticed a patch collection on the walls and was taking it in. Dick came early too, approached me and introduced himself. I mentioned I just retired from the FDNY, he lit up! We immediately began exchanging stories. You see, far and few FDNY members took these NYS courses. Needless to say, we hit it off. We spent lunch and most of the down time chatting about the job. He was very passionate and excited to recall the yester-years. We enjoyed each others late night chit-chats, (Dick also stayed on campus as he also lived about five hours away). I told him that I signed up for the fire instructor class and would be missing my retirement party that was put together after I enrolled into the class. There was about eight other brothers retiring, so I did not think I would be missed, furthermore, this class would not be held for another year. I was looking ahead. Anyway, at the end of the school day and my "retirement party date" Dick say's "let's get out of here"- meaning the academy. We escaped in his white caddy to the local town. He and I spent a wonderful evening at the local Red Lobster eating like Kings, sipping scotch, sharing stories and laughing to no end. Dick would not let me go near my pocket! A very special ending to my career shared with a very special new friend.

Thanks Dick, you were a very kind and fine gentleman. I wished I could have known you longer. Rest in peace, Boss.

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Post by: nfd2004 on March 06, 2019, 07:50:43 PM
I remember watching "On The Job" on black/white TV. I lived in Bridgeport about 60 miles from NYC. I used to watch it on Channel 31 (?) there.
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Post by: memory master on March 07, 2019, 09:03:23 AM
Yep, 31. If I recall correctly you had to have some kind of converter to get 31.
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Post by: mack on March 07, 2019, 01:06:54 PM
"On The Job" the FDNY television training program was broadcast on Channel 31, then known as WUHF. An article in WNYF (1st/1962) covers the program's inception, early program topics, and brief instructions on how to adapt your television set to receive it.

A follow up  piece in WNYF (2nd/1965), page 15, gives a larger list of early programs and says that they were to be broadcast from the Municipal Building over WNYC on Channel 31 UHF on Monday, Wednesday, Thursday, and Saturday evenings at 7.30pm. The early logo pictured here

Perhaps I should post this in "War years veteran" death notification. But since "On the Job" is mentioned here, I will pass along the death of retired Lieut. Richard "Dick" Nagel. Dick produced the OTJ series. He passed away December 2018, lived in northern Westchester. Dick  was an actor, director and producer. Most importantly a loving dad and husband.

I met Dick in Montour Falls NY back in early 2003. Dick was the Director of the NYS Firefighter Training Center there. I had recently retired and wanted to "stay in the game" so to speak. So I signed up for the six day "Firefighter Instructor Methodology" course that is seldom given. The course required you to stay on campus at this pre-war converted convent for the duration of the course. I lived about 5 hours away, so that worked for me. On my first day, I arrived early, walking through the empty halls I noticed a patch collection on the walls and was taking it in. Dick came early too, approached me and introduced himself. I mentioned I just retired from the FDNY, he lit up! We immediately began exchanging stories. You see, far and few FDNY members took these NYS courses. Needless to say, we hit it off. We spent lunch and most of the down time chatting about the job. He was very passionate and excited to recall the yester-years. We enjoyed each others late night chit-chats, (Dick also stayed on campus as he also lived about five hours away). I told him that I signed up for the fire instructor class and would be missing my retirement party that was put together after I enrolled into the class. There was about eight other brothers retiring, so I did not think I would be missed, furthermore, this class would not be held for another year. I was looking ahead. Anyway, at the end of the school day and my "retirement party date" Dick say's "let's get out of here"- meaning the academy. We escaped in his white caddy to the local town. He and I spent a wonderful evening at the local Red Lobster eating like Kings, sipping scotch, sharing stories and laughing to no end. Dick would not let me go near my pocket! A very special ending to my career shared with a very special new friend.

Thanks Dick, you were a very kind and fine gentleman. I wished I could have known you longer. Rest in peace, Boss.

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Chief Dick Nagle - RIP

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Post by: 68jk09 on April 05, 2019, 11:25:17 PM
CONTINUED REST IN PEACE TO ALL.....   https://www.nytimes.com/1976/02/09/archives/3-firemen-killed-at-queens-blaze-6-others-are-hurt-as-roof.html
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Post by: 68jk09 on April 09, 2019, 11:10:11 PM
15 1983  BX & MIDTOWN PHOTOS.... https://www.ebay.com/itm/Fire-Apparatus-Slides-15-FDNY-working-a-job-in-1982/133018031298?hash=item1ef87e14c2:g:~usAAOSw1VxcrSIW
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Post by: JohnnyGage on April 11, 2019, 07:50:37 AM
Good ol' days photo....check out the "buff", sombody may have brought their future firefighter son to work...

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Post by: JohnnyGage on April 11, 2019, 10:02:28 AM
^^^^^^Wait a minute, employing my basic detective skills; the bat..., the glove....could it be future R3 Brother "69Mets"?
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Post by: nfd2004 on April 11, 2019, 12:01:36 PM
^^^^^^Wait a minute, employing my basic detective skills; the bat..., the glove....could it be future R3 Brother "69Mets"?
Good ol' days photo....check out the "buff", sombody may have brought their future firefighter son to work...

(https://i.postimg.cc/r0tr29zV/Screenshot-2019-04-11-07-45-15-1.png) (https://postimg.cc/r0tr29zV)

 I'm not too sure "JohnnyGage" but is it "69METs" - OR- could it be this site owner, now FDNY Lt Tommy B, aka "tbendick" ?

 The only reason I think maybe "tbendick" because it looks to be Engine 23 and I know his father, Retired Capt John B "jbendick" who worked at Engine 23, used to take his son Tommy B to ride with him.

 But either one, "69METS" - OR - "tbendick", both followed in their fathers footsteps. Both "into the job", and being well respected members of the FDNY.

 Another interesting point is that "69METS" worked with then Firefighter John B (Retired Capt John B) at the "animal house" (E75/L33/B19) as it was nicknamed then on Jerome Ave.

 By the way Dan, aka "JohnnyGage", guys are telling me how much they appreciate your stories of Glory Days. Seems you got plenty of fans out there.
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Post by: raybrag on April 11, 2019, 04:21:27 PM
I agree with you, Willy. JohnyGage's posts have been interesting, informative and in many cases humorous.  He's a great addition to the site, and I have the impression that he couldn't be bribed with a couple of Big Macs . . . unlike some others who shall remain nameless.
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Post by: JohnnyGage on April 11, 2019, 06:35:50 PM
Thank you gents for your kind thoughts!... Big Macs, white castle, fuhgetaboutit, I'd fold like a cheap suit!, two staples of life....Glad you enjoy the articles...I have only touched the surface. After dinner, well maybe before... a couple of JWB, I sit in my recliner with my little black cat on my lap and type away, thinking about the Glory Days...Recollections  of Glory Days pour into my coconut, so many I had to list my stories into a journal to relieve my brain...believe me when I say; we have only touched the tip of the iceberg!..I have more crazy recollections of  "TT", "Profiles", "Odd couples", "Vacants", "Car fires", "Meals" and the defining moment of what "Glory Days" meant to me...plus more...they are already in the can! ...I appreciate all feedback, it is very encouraging...thanks for reading, I hope you enjoy, and stay tuned, the crazy stories have just started!


But today, it is a special day, a special Birthday! Best, John...

And as always, thanks Willy for giving me the opportunity and forum to release these stories, my wife has had enough (insert eye roll here), God bless her! Best to all...
JohnnyGage
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Post by: mikeindabronx on April 12, 2019, 11:41:37 AM
"JohnnyGage" thanks again for your posts of the "Good Old Days"
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Post by: JohnnyGage on April 17, 2019, 09:54:31 AM
Came upon this photo in a forum called "The Bronx Board", unknown who took the pic, but it's a FDNY tiller turning onto 180 St off of Mapes Avenue. I m going to assume it is L 38, back then they had a very large first due area. During those years, the next nearest truck company would have been L 27...still a distance from this corner.
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Post by: guitarman314 on April 17, 2019, 12:24:40 PM
Came upon this photo in a forum called "The Bronx Board", unknown who took the pic, but it's a FDNY tiller turning onto 180 St off of Mapes Avenue. I m going to assume it is L 38, back then they had a very large first due area. During those years, the next nearest truck company would have been L 27...still a distance from this corner.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZCwvh0Dw/Screenshot-2019-04-14-13-56-21-1.png) (https://postimg.cc/ZCwvh0Dw)
  The rig seen here is a 1937 Seagrave 85ft. stick so it must be L27. The only other Bronx Ladder co. that was assigned a 1937 Seagrave was L31. L38 was running with a 1921 ALF 75ft. with a 1932 FWD tractor. ;)
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Post by: JohnnyGage on April 17, 2019, 02:48:54 PM
^^^^^^Thanks G-man!  See? what do I know...I am so impressed with the depth of historical facts and knowledge coming from this fine network!  I look forward to discovering something new and exciting evertime I log on...It seems every contributor has their specialty; JK with a huge historic fdny background information, memorymaster with deep history of fdny in queens and SI,  mack with historical factual pages upon pages of fire company history, Guitarman with deep apparatus history, Willy with all the greasy spoons in daBronx...

Its a pleasure to be a small part of this wonderful group!
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Post by: 8060rock on April 17, 2019, 03:18:24 PM
alright, alright, already - enough with the nicey nicey stuff JG - we're all sitting around waiting for that can of yours to pop open and toss out another pearl of entertainment for us. Keep signing in and nothing from JohnnyG - what the heck! It's like when I was a kid and came time for "Have Gun Will Travel" with my main man Paladin to come on and the freakin' tv is on the fritz again - scrambly picture, can't get the vertical hold to actually hold - tweaking the aluminum foil antennae ears isn't working and now I gotta go listen to Cousin Brucie on the transistor radio instead. Bruce Morrow was good but he wasn't Paladin - the knight without armor in a savage land. Same with you JG, nobody's here is taking your place - right now there's a lot of Good Guys, but as for me - your the new Paladin.   
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Post by: JohnnyGage on April 17, 2019, 04:27:31 PM
Wowzer! Your wish is my command, check out Glory Days in a few minutes for more fun action. Paladin? What company was he in?......
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Post by: 8060rock on April 17, 2019, 07:51:24 PM
Not sure JohnnyG, but Paladin mighta been a chief in the San Francisco FD, think his aide/driver was "Hey Boy" - guess he had a lotta comp time because he wasn't around that often, had some other work to tend to - think the SFFD dispatcher was often heard trying to reach Paladin, asking him "Paladin, Paladin, where do you roam"? I don't think he ever answered.
Thanks for the latest Glory Days - always enjoyable reading!!!
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Post by: JohnnyGage on April 17, 2019, 08:15:49 PM
My pleasure!
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Post by: raybrag on April 17, 2019, 08:42:44 PM
Not sure JohnnyG, but Paladin mighta been a chief in the San Francisco FD, think his aide/driver was "Hey Boy" - guess he had a lotta comp time because he wasn't around that often, had some other work to tend to - think the SFFD dispatcher was often heard trying to reach Paladin, asking him "Paladin, Paladin, where do you roam"? I don't think he ever answered.
Thanks for the latest Glory Days - always enjoyable reading!!!

Of course he answered! He said "far, far from home", didn't he? And  you're right . . . always enjoyable reading.


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Post by: 8060rock on April 17, 2019, 10:30:36 PM
Yes Ray, "far, far from home" - guess he did answer, how did I forget that? 
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Post by: 68jk09 on April 28, 2019, 08:10:34 PM
ENG*329s ORIGINAL "SAND VEHICLE".....   https://www.ebay.com/itm/New-York-City-Fire-Manifold-Wagon-1986-GMC-Ward-79-Fire-Apparatus-Slide/372660968180?hash=item56c4531af4:g:uC8AAOSw1zlcioyI
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Post by: 68jk09 on May 27, 2019, 10:48:26 PM
Some FDNY Super Pumper shots ....after opening thru thru the arrow ...click "You Tube" on the lower right & it opens up a sidebar to some more FDNY history videos.....    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKUBAgUUyIg
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Post by: 68jk09 on June 21, 2019, 07:32:27 PM
6-21-07 ... CONTINUED REST IN PEACE BROTHER.... http://www.dannypujdak.com
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on July 28, 2019, 04:37:56 PM
Looks like ENG*207 destroyed at the A&S Dept store warehouse Multiple at Water & Jay Sts BKLYN on a Friday afternoon around Oct 1962 ...... www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-FDNY-Fire-Truck-Disaster-Picture-Photo/143323792013?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3Dbe571940fafe482cb409f54606966f32%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D312667212577%26itm%3D143323792013%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1


Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: guitarman314 on July 28, 2019, 11:17:54 PM
Looks like ENG*207 destroyed at the A&S Dept store warehouse Multiple at Water & Jay Sts BKLYN on a Friday afternoon around Oct 1962 ...... www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-FDNY-Fire-Truck-Disaster-Picture-Photo/143323792013?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3Dbe571940fafe482cb409f54606966f32%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D312667212577%26itm%3D143323792013%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
  March 7, 1964 5th alarmer at Box 491.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on July 28, 2019, 11:48:45 PM
Looks like ENG*207 destroyed at the A&S Dept store warehouse Multiple at Water & Jay Sts BKLYN on a Friday afternoon around Oct 1962 ...... www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-FDNY-Fire-Truck-Disaster-Picture-Photo/143323792013?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20160323102634%26meid%3Dbe571940fafe482cb409f54606966f32%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D312667212577%26itm%3D143323792013%26pg%3D2047675&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1
  March 7, 1964 5th alarmer at Box 491.
WOW Tom i would say you are right...i don't know why i thought it was earlier but i do remember it was a Friday afternoon.   
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 811 on July 29, 2019, 12:13:13 AM
Box 491 was transmitted at 1025, Friday, March 6, 1964.  Full story by Assistant Chief Francis J. Love is in WNYF 2/1964.
Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 23, 2019, 02:05:20 PM
CLAW TOOL.....this along with the Kelly Tool were carried together by the Irons Man back before the Halligan Tool was invented (& combined the facets of both tools into one)... www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-Fire-Department-Halligan-Pry-Bar/193062670792?hash=item2cf36e91c8:g:Mb4AAOSwZ6VdX0~B


Title: Re: A LOOK BACK.
Post by: 68jk09 on August 24, 2019, 04:55:36 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Hugh-A-Halligan-Tool-Bar/133150595656?hash=item1f0064da48:g:H4EAAOSwctxdYWwg