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General Category => Fire Operations => Topic started by: anesti on July 16, 2009, 03:47:15 PM

Title: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: anesti on July 16, 2009, 03:47:15 PM
passed the them about 10 minutes before the job came in which was around 1130 pm. Fire was on the 37th floor with tons of aptments calling up that they are in panic mode. I just had gotten home and since it would have been a 20 plus block jog fir me to get there i decided not to buff it. But did this escalate to more than the 10-77 as i was hearing fd units screeching up the concourse even an hour after the 10-75 was given. I know they werent relocators cause ladder 55 came in quiet when they were heading to ladder 37.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: MichaelS on July 16, 2009, 05:13:32 PM
Just after this fire went U/C, There was an A/Hs heavy fire on the 2nd floor of a 6 story OMD on W 183rd & Andrews Ave Box 4797. Special units were heading from the 10-77 to the 10-75, THEN

BC-27 picking up from the previous 10-77 fire reported fire showing again from the 38th floor (floor above from the previous fire 1 hour prior) & requested the 10-75 & eventually the 10-77 back to the scene. So all the special units heading to the 183rd job had to turn around & go back.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: kfd274 on July 16, 2009, 06:15:07 PM
Busy day in da Bronx.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: MichaelS on July 16, 2009, 07:01:42 PM
There was a 2nd alarm on arrival by the 1st due engine this morning too in Brooklyn, surpised it hasnt been mentioned on here. Heavy fire on the 2nd & 3rd floors of a 3 story attached vacant dwelling with jumpers.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: kfd274 on July 16, 2009, 07:45:25 PM
There was a 2nd alarm on arrival by the 1st due engine this morning too in Brooklyn, surpised it hasnt been mentioned on here. Heavy fire on the 2nd & 3rd floors of a 3 story attached vacant dwelling with jumpers.

This probably hasn't been mentioned since this should have been posted to the appropriate borough.  The Brooklyn 2nd, I am surprised also.  Did you look under Brooklyn?
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: anesti on July 16, 2009, 08:57:27 PM
Just after this fire went U/C, There was an A/Hs heavy fire on the 2nd floor of a 6 story OMD on W 183rd & Andrews Ave Box 4797. Special units were heading from the 10-77 to the 10-75, THEN

BC-27 picking up from the previous 10-77 fire reported fire showing again from the 38th floor (floor above from the previous fire 1 hour prior) & requested the 10-75 & eventually the 10-77 back to the scene. So all the special units heading to the 183rd job had to turn around & go back.

 wonder what happened after words rekindle or arson???, tracy towers isn't  the greatest of buildings neither are its occupants, hopefully one of these days they dont become a roman candle.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: anesti on July 16, 2009, 08:58:43 PM
There was a 2nd alarm on arrival by the 1st due engine this morning too in Brooklyn, surpised it hasnt been mentioned on here. Heavy fire on the 2nd & 3rd floors of a 3 story attached vacant dwelling with jumpers.

This probably hasn't been mentioned since this should have been posted to the appropriate borough.  The Brooklyn 2nd, I am surprised also.  Did you look under Brooklyn?

i didnt post it under the bronx because that is for a incedent alert summary.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: MichaelS on July 16, 2009, 09:14:49 PM
Could have been a rekindle, the 1st fire on the 37th floor did have minor extension to the 38th
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: efd274 on July 16, 2009, 09:33:54 PM
Does anybody have a rundown or pics of either box - if something is not posted by tomorrow I will try to do a summary from the archive tapes -I listened to some of the tape earlier and portions were garbled. Any help would be appreciated. There was a lot going on - there was an accident on the Deegan that L46 was on - also I think L52 was on box 3737
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: anesti on July 16, 2009, 09:45:02 PM
Does anybody have a rundown or pics of either box - if something is not posted by tomorrow I will try to do a summary from the archive tapes -I listened to some of the tape earlier and portions were garbled. Any help would be appreciated. There was a lot going on - there was an accident on the Deegan that L46 was on - also I think L52 was on box 3737

 vaguely remember the first job 79 was first due they gave the 10-75 from 2 blocks away, engine 66 was highrise nozzle, battalion 15 was saftey officer,eng 48, eng 81 cfrd,ladder 37,ladder 46 was fast. rescue 3, div 7, battalion 27 was first due. engine 39/hru1. A box came in during this job for tibbets and 231 for a shed fire engines 52,95,ladders 52,and ladder 36 with battalion 13 responding all the way from the heights engine 52 ask for a 10-7 and the calling party talked to the members and they all realized that it was the fire from the towers and a 91 was given.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: efd274 on July 16, 2009, 10:10:28 PM
Thanks anesti!
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: anesti on July 16, 2009, 10:28:25 PM
all the credit in the world to exchief 84

Bronx,  N. Y.  07/15/09  @  23:15 hrs.

Kings Bridge  area

 

Box   3553

address:               20  West  Mosholu Pky South  x  Jerome  Ave

 

3553  @  23:08

Engs.   79,  48,  62,  75

Lad.  37,  Lad.  56

Batt.  27

Rescue  Co. #3*

Squad  Co.  #61*

* 4  Engs / 2 Tks. / Rescue  &  Squad  on  numerous  calls

 

10 – 75 – 3553  @  23:11

TowerLadder  46   is  designated  as  the   “FAST”   Truck

Batt.  19

Division  7

 

10 – 77 – 3553  @  23:12  ( High Rise  M/D  assignment )

Lad.  39,   T. Lad.  33

Eng.  81   C.F.R.D.

Eng.  39  w /  High Rise #2

Eng.  66  w/ High Rise  Nozzle

Batt.  15

Batt.  18   “Safety  Officer”

Rescue  Battalion   /   Safety  Battalion

Fieldcom  1

Command  Tactical  Unit

 

Fire  Building:

41  Story  Class  1   150 x 100  “Tracy  Towers”

 

All – Hands:

7 – 5 – 10 – 77 – 3553  @  23:26

Batt.  27  reports:     Fire  in  the  37th  floor  in  Apt.  37 “david”

Using  All – Hands.     We  have  fire  out  the  window.

The “attack”  stairs  is  “A”   /   Evac  Stairs  is   “B”

 

@  23:27

Batt.  27:     Box  3553,   Fire  has  been  knocked  down,   making  progress.

Primary  Searches   are  underway.    2 – lines  stretched,   1 – line  in  operation.

Still   Doubtful.

 

@  23:30

Division  7:     Box  3553,   All  visible  fire  has  been  knocked  down.

We  had  slight  extension  to  the  Apt.  above,   38 “david”

Primary  Searches  in  the  Fire  Apt.   and  Apt.  above  are  negative.

Trucks  are  “Opening  Up”   and  checking  for  further  extensions. 

Still   Doubtful.

 

@  23:41

Division  7:     Box  3553,    Searches  in  the  attack  stairs  from  the  37th  to  roof  are

negative.     Searches  on  the  floors  above  are  continuing.

 

@  23:49

Division  7:     Box  3553,   Primary  Searches  on  all  floors  37  to  41  are  negative.

 

@  23:51

Fieldcom  1:     Division  7  adds  Primary  Searches  in  all  elevators  are  negative.

 

@  23:54

Fieldcom  1:     Progress  Report  for  the  All – Hands,  10-77  Box  3553,   Division  7  reports:

Secondary  Searches  on  the  fire  floor  and  floor  above  are  complete  and  negative.

Division  7  place’s  this  fire  at   Probably   Will   Hold.

 

@  00:09

Fieldcom  1:     Progress  Report  for  the  All – Hands,  10-77  Box  3553,   Division  7  reports:

All  Secondary  Searches  are  complete  and  negative.    Fire   is   UnderControl.

 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

@  00:22

“Division  7  to  Da  Bronx,   Transmit  a  10-75  again  for  the  Tracy  Towers.    We  have  fire

in  Apt.  38 “david”  on  the  38th  floor.

 

Box   9999 – 3553  Transmitted  @  00:22

Engs.   50 act.  79,   Eng.  88

Lad.  55  act.  Lad  37

Batt.  18

 

Div. 7  advises:   At  this  time,  We  have  Eng.  75,  62,  Lad.  37  &  Lad  56  on  scene  working

We  have  fire  showing  out  the  window  of  the  38th  floor.

 

10 – 77 – 9999  @  00:24

Lad.  32

TowerLadder  33   is  designated  as  the  “FAST”  Truck

Eng.  81  C.F.R.D.

Eng.  39  w /  High Rise  2

Batt.  13

Batt.  18   “Safety  Officer”

Rescue  Battalion   /   Safety  battalion

Fieldcom  1

Command  Tactical  Unit

 

@  00:30

Division  7:     Box  9999,   Fire  was  on  the  38th  floor  in  Apt.  38 “david”

All  visible  fire  has  been  knocked  down.    We  have  a  smoke  condition  on  the  floors

above.   At  this  time  we  have  no  visible  extensions.     Fire  remains   Doubtful.

 

@  00:35

Fieldcom  1:     Progress  Report  for  the  All – Hands  Box  9999,   Division  7  reports:

Primary  Searches  are  complete  and  negative  except  for  the  rear  bedroom  of  the

Fire  Apt..   

 

@  00:45

Fieldcom  1:     Progress  Report  for  the  All – Hands  Box  9999,   Division  7  reports:

Primary  Searches  on  the  fire  floor  and  floors  above  are  complete  and  negative.

Primary  Searches  in  all  elevators   are  negative. 

 

@  00:54

Fieldcom  1:     Progress  Report  for  the  All – Hands  Box  9999,   Division  7  reports:

Secondary  Searches  on  the  fire  floor  and  floor  are  complete  and  negative.

Trucks  are  still  “Opening  Up”  in  the  walls  checking  for  extensions.

Probably   Will   Hold.

 

@  01:07

Fieldcom  1:     Progress  Report  for  the  All – Hands  Box  9999,   Division  7  reports:

Fire   is   UnderControl.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: kfd274 on July 16, 2009, 11:09:32 PM
Thanks for the rundown anesti and exchief 84
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: BronxFireRadio on July 17, 2009, 03:28:09 AM
Just put up a couple radio clips:



http://www.firegroundphotos.net/bronxco/tt1.mp3

http://www.firegroundphotos.net/bronxco/tt2.mp3

http://www.firegroundphotos.net/bronxco/tt3.mp3
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: nfd2004 on July 17, 2009, 08:10:44 AM
Thanks "BronxFire Radio". Enjoyed listening to them, and you have a Great web Site too. Nice job. Thanks for all. For those interested try this:  www.firegroundphotos.net/bronxco/index.html  . Alot to listen to.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: efd274 on July 17, 2009, 11:28:44 AM
Great stuff - also excellent work by Dispatcher handling multiple calls!
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: kfd274 on July 17, 2009, 11:43:49 AM
Just put up a couple radio clips:



http://www.firegroundphotos.net/bronxco/tt1.mp3

http://www.firegroundphotos.net/bronxco/tt2.mp3

http://www.firegroundphotos.net/bronxco/tt3.mp3




Thanks for the great clips.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: efd274 on July 17, 2009, 03:23:15 PM
Anybody have any idea how often this type of situation where a fire is declared under control and recurs- secondary searches are all negative etc? Also what type of investigation will be conducted (if any)now that this event occurred - and I don't mean for punitive reasons but learning to mitigate against future episodes of this nature. I would imagine DC7 can't be too happy with this occurring on his watch.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: It Is What It Is on July 17, 2009, 03:29:59 PM
Does anyone have the run down of units for Box 75-4797?  Rumor has it a detail to Ladder 54 from Ladder 59 made the grab.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: anesti on July 17, 2009, 03:45:48 PM
is the dispatcher new?? ive dont recall hearing him before
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: efd274 on July 17, 2009, 04:00:36 PM
See Bronx Incidents for rundown from audio tape for Box 4797 - TL54 acting L33 was on the first alarm.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: dillondotcom on July 17, 2009, 10:35:25 PM
Ladder 54 was first due, gave the 10-75.  Ladder 54 made the grab from the window, I dont know about the one inside the apt.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: efd274 on July 18, 2009, 11:41:13 AM
Thanks dillondotcom
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: rdm258 on July 18, 2009, 02:09:40 PM
WOW that dispatcher did a GREAT job.
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: BronxFireRadio on July 19, 2009, 11:19:05 PM
183 is far from new, he has many years on the job. He's only been up in the X fairly recently, did most of his work in M and R.

BTW, he only loses it a little bit in the beginning of the third clip...when the supervisor is yelling at you, you yell at the units... :)

IS IT 20 or 40???
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: nfd2004 on July 19, 2009, 11:34:34 PM
"BronxFire Radio", X=Bronx, M=Manhatten, R=Richmond (Staten Island), Correct ? ? ?
Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: BronxFireRadio on July 19, 2009, 11:37:45 PM
10-4. M X R B Q.

Title: Re: Tracy Towers Job 20 west moshoulou park
Post by: nfd2004 on July 20, 2009, 07:48:37 AM
  Got it ! ! ! And B = Brooklyn, Q = Queens. If only I could have could gotten through High School that easy.