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Incident Alert => Staten Island => Topic started by: Signal73 on January 09, 2019, 10:35:51 AM

Title: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: Signal73 on January 09, 2019, 10:35:51 AM
Fire Location: 38 Bianca Ct

Fire in an attached 3 story PD 20 X 25 Woodfram

CIDS indicates wood trust with gusset plates

B-23 All Hands Extra Engine & Truck E-166/L85

L-82 Fast

E-168,164,162,165,166s/c
L-87,84,82(Fast),85s/c
B-23,22
R-5
Sq-8
D-8
Rac-5
E-159 w/ Sat. 5

Relocations:
Engine 228 Act. Squad 8
Engine 202 Act. Engine 167
Engine 153 Act. Engine 165
Engine 242 Act. Engine 164
Ladder 166 Act. Ladder 82
Ladder 149 Act. Ladder 85
Battalion 32 Act. Battalion 23
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on January 09, 2019, 11:06:39 AM
E164 to SI: E168 has water on the fire. Itís a dryer fire on the 1st floor.

SI to BC23: receive?

The 23 recieved the info and transmitted the AH extra 1&1 while enroute.


The Aspen Knolls development. Hundreds of lightweight construction attached townhouses. Huge development that is very tight in some spots. Always wondered how the rigs would get to some of the houses in there if need be.

As I type this, I see E-242 acting 164 respond pass my workplace.

Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: Joeyengine on January 09, 2019, 11:33:24 AM
167 o.o.s medicals 168 engine first due
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on January 09, 2019, 12:03:32 PM
Oceanic H&L acting Squad 8. Now thatís very interesting.
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: t123ken on January 09, 2019, 12:29:21 PM
Oceanic H&L acting Squad 8. Now thatís very interesting.
Why relocate them at all?  They're only a half mile down the street.
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: mack on January 09, 2019, 01:03:32 PM
Oceanic H&L 1 is a volunteer fire company.  How do they relocate to cover FDNY Squad 8? 
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: memory master on January 09, 2019, 01:44:12 PM
Oceanic H&L 1 is a volunteer fire company.  How do they relocate to cover FDNY Squad 8?
I can't wait to see the answer to this one!
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: manlt on January 09, 2019, 01:51:53 PM
Oceanic and Richmond Engine are in the City Charter (Admin Code).  They get a stiped from NYC direct and are dispatched by us.  New Dispatch Policy?
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: entropychaser on January 09, 2019, 03:07:07 PM
What's so strange about the relocation for Squad 8? The entire fire department of Santiago, Chile (population 6.5 million) is volunteer.
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: 68jk09 on January 09, 2019, 03:18:36 PM
Oceanic H&L 1 is a volunteer fire company.  How do they relocate to cover FDNY Squad 8?
Where did this come from ?
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: SI1075 on January 09, 2019, 03:40:49 PM
many of us on this board are always advocating for another chief on the island as well as a few more companies.  we always talked about adding a squad to the island which has finally happened.
I get why SQ8 gets a relocator,  they are in a remote area, if they are a company such as E151, E54,L4  E70 L53, that get an automatic relocator so be it.  But to send Oceanic as their relocator????  I feel this is both taking advantage of one of the few remaining volley companies left in the city,  it is also nowhere in our books that another agency can relocate to us.  obviously in the weeks after 9/11 it was common but for this to be a regular thing is absolutely rediculous   
just my opinion but if the city feels it needs to use oceanic or richmond to fill in an fdny firehouse,  then i think they KNOW they need to add a few more companies
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: t123ken on January 09, 2019, 03:51:31 PM
I don't believe Engine 154 was a must fill.  Why does Squad 8 now always get a relocator?
I think it's a smoke and mirrors attempt to put on a show that the neighborhood didn't lose an engine company when Engine 154 was replaced.
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on January 09, 2019, 03:56:17 PM
The first reason that came to mind on why they had a volley relocate to an FDNY company was that all if not most of the other SI engine companies were busy at the time. Not that far fetched. If thatís the case, they looked to the next best thing down the road, literally.

As to why SQ8 is a must-fill, idk. Something about it being a SOC squad company now makes it different however. Either way, Oceanic H&L definitely had their time to shine today lol. Even Richmond Engine 1 was 10-84 at the AH last week in squad 8ís first due.
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: manlt on January 09, 2019, 04:47:11 PM
Richmond Engine didnít relocate to squad 8. Either the original post was a typo or the poster misheard the radio. I was tongue in cheek with the new dispatcher directive. It is possible that Richmond Engine said the were ď10-8 in squads response areaĒ being that their response area overlaps. They were probably trying to be funny.
As per the must fill, 154 had a very large response area. If they were at a job, might have gotten a relocater most of the time. Probably a deal with local politicians
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on January 09, 2019, 05:08:26 PM
Richmond Engine didnít relocate to squad 8. Either the original post was a typo or the poster misheard the radio. I was tongue in cheek with the new dispatcher directive. It is possible that Richmond Engine said the were ď10-8 in squads response areaĒ being that their response area overlaps. They were probably trying to be funny.
As per the must fill, 154 had a very large response area. If they were at a job, might have gotten a relocater most of the time. Probably a deal with local politicians
do you mean Oceanic H&L never relocated today to SQ8? You said Richmond Engine in your post by accident perhaps. Referring back to my post, Richmond Engine was at the AH last week in which SQ8 was first due to. Thatís what I meant when I said that. But referring to your post, do you mean that TODAY Oceanic never relocated? Iím trying to clear up my confusion lol.
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on January 09, 2019, 05:09:06 PM
Pic is from SILIVE


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Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: Signal73 on January 09, 2019, 05:38:02 PM
Richmond Engine didnít relocate to squad 8. Either the original post was a typo or the poster misheard the radio. I was tongue in cheek with the new dispatcher directive. It is possible that Richmond Engine said the were ď10-8 in squads response areaĒ being that their response area overlaps. They were probably trying to be funny.
As per the must fill, 154 had a very large response area. If they were at a job, might have gotten a relocater most of the time. Probably a deal with local politicians

I read on NYCFIREWIRE on Facebook that they relocated (Don't believe everything you read I guess)

Mind you Staten Island comes in on my end all broken up/low audio

After listening to the archives they said E-228 Acting Sq-8

I Do apologize for the "Wrong Posting" Next time ill listen to the archives instead of reading something off a Facebook post. Who now just posted that it was a joke between friends

Once again I do apologize for the wrong info
Title: Re: 1/9/19 Staten Island 10-75 Box 3607
Post by: manlt on January 09, 2019, 06:21:03 PM
It never happened. Vollies on SI are in city charter, get $ directly from city and are dispatched by FDNY. They are not getting relocated to or acting as an FDNY company.
Yes, must have typed wrong vollies.