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Title: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: IRISH on June 13, 2018, 07:18:37 PM
New Squad Co for SI

https://articles.silive.com/news/2018/06/embargo_island_wins_funding_fo.amp?__twitter_impression=true
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Signal73 on June 13, 2018, 07:20:17 PM
Quick on the draw Irish. Was just about to post too lol
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: guitarman314 on June 13, 2018, 07:50:32 PM
  The article states that an existing engine co. is going to be the new squad, which one? ???
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: IRISH on June 13, 2018, 07:57:15 PM
  The article states that an existing engine co. is going to be the new squad, which one? ???

Would it be a Co near the Bridge??? Wondering if they'll respond into South Bklyn like R5?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Signal73 on June 13, 2018, 08:01:39 PM
Maybe Engine 165
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: IRISH on June 13, 2018, 08:06:03 PM
Maybe Engine 165

Article also states new rig and equipment
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Signal73 on June 13, 2018, 08:09:45 PM
Going with a more central location
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 4 truck on June 13, 2018, 08:33:55 PM
Maybe 154 engine.   Have access to the highway in both directions. 
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on June 13, 2018, 09:40:50 PM
That would explain the new hmtu truck being built too
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on June 13, 2018, 10:05:54 PM
Maybe Engine 165
.   165 is the hmtu engine co Iím sure they want to keep that asset but intact
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on June 13, 2018, 10:22:06 PM
Has to be a house that can fit the second piece and a company that is not a brush unit.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Joeyengine on June 13, 2018, 10:35:54 PM
168
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on June 13, 2018, 11:23:18 PM
168
    That would be a good spot plenty of room looks like an ems station when I searched it   It also said there might be a ladder company there too ? Not sure but your probably correct or on to something
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: guitarman314 on June 13, 2018, 11:54:46 PM
168
  I suspect you may know more than the rest of us. ;)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on June 14, 2018, 12:22:24 AM
168
    That would be a good spot plenty of room looks like an ems station when I searched it   It also said there might be a ladder company there too ? Not sure but your probably correct or on to something
They could definitely use a Truck in that area...Idk if the new company would be very busy but 84 Truck that runs in with 168 covers a huge area first due.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: billyfromhill on June 14, 2018, 09:58:08 AM
That would explain the new hmtu truck being built too

Is it HMTU style (custom cab) or Squad style (commercial cab)?

Isn't R5 due for a new HMTU truck?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: BCR on June 14, 2018, 10:43:28 AM
Long over due, would have been nice if they added a company instead of converting a company but it is a start.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: UnitWithTheUrgent on June 14, 2018, 01:41:36 PM
With E-165 & R-5 both being HMTU's will the island now have 3 HMTU's?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on June 14, 2018, 02:09:08 PM
https://www.firehouse.com/operations-training/news/21009365/staten-island-ny-nyc-getting-specialized-fdny-squad-company
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on June 14, 2018, 02:15:13 PM
SI Fire Company Locations:

(https://s22.postimg.cc/6q6x4t7gt/SI_FIREHOUSES.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/6q6x4t7gt/)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: memory master on June 14, 2018, 02:42:12 PM
168
Joe, rumor has it that you painted your helmet front piece company insert yellow already. I'll bet a deuce with a certain Capt. that you did.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on June 14, 2018, 02:49:13 PM
That would explain the new hmtu truck being built too

Is it HMTU style (custom cab) or Squad style (commercial cab)?

Isn't R5 due for a new HMTU truck?
  Yeah the HMTU style truck that fERRARA is building is a custom cab So it probably wonít go to the squad company and hopefully it does go to rescue five.  the squad will just get their second piece later I guess
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on June 14, 2018, 03:06:04 PM
168

(https://s22.postimg.cc/jig5a5snh/168.png) (https://postimg.cc/image/jig5a5snh/)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: guitarman314 on June 14, 2018, 03:28:46 PM
 :o
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on June 14, 2018, 05:09:10 PM
I saw the same helmet plate with a yellow 165 also. Any confirmation on where the SQ will be?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: IRISH on June 14, 2018, 06:26:09 PM
I saw the same helmet plate with a yellow 165 also. Any confirmation on where the SQ will be?

When E165 got the Squad Style Rig that pic popped up on the Internet...rumour at the time was the Capt of E165 had it made to get tongues wagging
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Signal73 on June 14, 2018, 06:29:31 PM
Found this old pic from years ago


(https://s33.postimg.cc/fdq316ke3/4_DFBED81-8225-48_D7-8_ABE-5_C060_B5_C8431.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fdq316ke3/)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: enginecap on June 14, 2018, 09:58:39 PM
Squad going into Engine 154....good source.  Take it to the bank.   Not sure if converting 154 OR bringing In a completely new company and apparatus
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on June 14, 2018, 10:38:18 PM
Will they relocate the foam truck thatís quartered with them
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Joeyengine on June 15, 2018, 12:12:25 AM
Yes most likely 168 will get the foam rig
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: nfd2004 on June 15, 2018, 06:35:09 AM
 Whatever company is designated to be the Staten Island Squad Co., what happens to the guys that have been assigned to that company and are NOT interested in working a Squad ? Do they get preference on where they would want to be reassigned ?

 My guess is that a guy who has been assigned to that company for many years may NOT be as upbeat about this as everybody else.

 Are those members given any special consideration, as they are being removed from a place they might have enjoyed working for many years.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on June 15, 2018, 09:46:06 AM
Squad going into Engine 154....good source.  Take it to the bank.   Not sure if converting 154 OR bringing In a completely new company and apparatus

''The money will fund ..., a brand new pumper-rescue truck, and auxiliary equipment needed to upgrade an existing Staten Island engine company into a specialized squad company.

what " already existing S.I. engine co.''  other than E. 165 , based on their apparatus, would qualify for such an upgrade ? Unless they plan to switch pieces with E. 154.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: enginecap on June 15, 2018, 10:05:59 AM
When they turned 18 Eng into a squad, those who wanted to leave were given their choice (up to a point...maybe not Ladder 44 😂😂)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: enginecap on June 15, 2018, 10:20:37 AM
You would want E165 to handle the squad and the haz mat duties?  Why?  They have funding for an entirely new apparatus and training.  SI will now have more of the resources they need.  154 close to highways and mid island
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on June 15, 2018, 10:26:38 AM


Oh, l'm sorry... they just mean an existing company, not an existing piece of apparatus...
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on June 15, 2018, 02:52:19 PM
For new members who may not be familar with FDNY Squad Companies ("Squad 101"):

     https://www.firehouse.com/rescue/article/10503173/trics-of-the-trade-the-rescuepumper-and-the-fdny-squad-concept-part-1

Note - Parts 2 & 3 also available under article
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: CanadianFireman on June 16, 2018, 01:33:20 AM
When does fiscal 2019 start? When would this company go into service anyone have an idea?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: STAjo on June 16, 2018, 01:53:33 AM
For new members who may not be familar with FDNY Squad Companies ("Squad 101"):

     https://www.firehouse.com/rescue/article/10503173/trics-of-the-trade-the-rescuepumper-and-the-fdny-squad-concept-part-1

Note - Parts 2 & 3 also available under article

 Good Read, Thanks Mack !
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Mike M on June 16, 2018, 04:25:00 AM
When does fiscal 2019 start? When would this company go into service anyone have an idea?

Fiscal 2019 should be July 1st but thatís just when the money becomes available.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on June 16, 2018, 06:36:41 AM
Wonder who will be making it? Seagrave or Kme ?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 68jk09 on June 28, 2018, 04:25:33 PM

DO 63 ...6-28-18....Paragraph 2.2 NEW SQUAD COMPANY
The Department is in the process of converting Engine Company 154 on Staten Island into a Squad Company. This company will respond to 10-75's, technical rescue incidents, hazardous material incidents, transportation accidents, decontamination operations, and other emergencies requiring specialized equipment and staffing. The training process involves over 300 hours of Hazardous Materials and Technical Rescue training. Any Captain, Lieutenant or Firefighter (with 5 or more years as a Firefighter) interested in a position in this Squad Company should complete the Information Sheet for New Squad Company available under Fire Admin Forms on the Intranet, and forward to DAC John Esposito, Chief of Special Operations Command at 9 MetroTech Center Room 7W-5 or via email to JohnM.Esposito@FDNY.nyc.gov. The information sheet must be received by July 31, 2018. Questions can be directed to Deputy Chief Joseph Cunningham at Rescue Operations at cunninj@fdny.nyc.gov.


Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JOR176 on June 28, 2018, 08:31:00 PM
154 is the company and scheduled to become a Sq November 2018
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on June 28, 2018, 08:32:52 PM
what apparatus ?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: enginecap on June 28, 2018, 09:11:54 PM
Most likely 154s rig with new paint job and a bread truck
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on June 28, 2018, 09:40:11 PM
Most likely 154s rig with new paint job and a bread truck

ah, ok
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on June 28, 2018, 09:44:25 PM
Very interesting. Gonna have to get used to seeing SQ154 in the rundowns  ;)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on June 28, 2018, 09:56:25 PM
Squad 154's location on SI places it further away than Squad 1 for all Brooklyn locations - even those right over the VN Bridge.




(https://s33.postimg.cc/w0ng74brv/Squad_18.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/w0ng74brv/)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JA290 on June 29, 2018, 01:18:32 AM
Squad 154's location on SI places it further away than Squad 1 for all Brooklyn locations - even those right over the VN Bridge.




(https://s33.postimg.cc/w0ng74brv/Squad_18.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/w0ng74brv/)


I can't see 154 getting sent to brooklyn div 8 boxes unless 1 & maybe 252 is out. 


Also for the person asking about the rig, I would imagine they will get a spare squad apparatus until a new one is delivered
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on June 29, 2018, 01:23:04 AM
154ís location on the island makes it no more than 15-20 mins away from any corner of the island. Close proximity to West Shore EPXWY and Staten Island EXPWY make this possible. Theyíd also be 1st due to SI Mall. Large majority of 154ís first Due area is made up of industrial and brush. They were also 1st due to the 5th alarm 2 weeks ago.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on June 29, 2018, 05:00:14 AM
ya, a spare squad, that makes the most sense,
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdny747 on June 29, 2018, 06:57:05 PM
2.2 NEW SQUAD COMPANY
The Department is in the process of converting Engine Company 154 on Staten Island into a Squad Company.
This company will respond to 10-75's, technical rescue incidents, hazardous material incidents, transportation
accidents, decontamination operations, and other emergencies requiring specialized equipment and staffing.
The training process involves over 300 hours of Hazardous Materials and Technical Rescue training. Any Captain,
Lieutenant or Firefighter (with 5 or more years as a Firefighter) interested in a position in this Squad Company
should complete the Information Sheet for New Squad Company available under Fire Admin Forms on the Intranet,
and forward to DAC John Esposito, Chief of Special Operations Command at 9 MetroTech Center Room 7W-5 or
via email to JohnM.Esposito@FDNY.nyc.gov. The information sheet must be received by July 31, 2018. Questions
can be directed to Deputy Chief Joseph Cunningham at Rescue Operations at cunninj@fdny.nyc.gov.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 68jk09 on June 29, 2018, 08:02:19 PM
^^^^^^posted in reply 40.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on July 06, 2018, 12:39:14 AM
Pic is from Instagram. Banner says E-154ís last parade in the grass. 154 is in the Travis, SI 4th of July parade every year. Next yearís parade  itíll be Squad 154. Engine 154ís nickname is ďSplendor in the grassĒ - theyíre quartered in an swampy/tall grass/marsh area of SI.


(https://s8.postimg.cc/fnj88u2sx/D0_B60_A1_E-81_A5-460_A-9_C85-5_D54_FCCD0998.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fnj88u2sx/)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on July 06, 2018, 01:04:53 AM
Anybody know what youíre going to do with the extra Apparatus they have the foam truck,brush truck and that other truck to carry that small brush truck that small boat/ zodiac  would come in handy Iím sure theyíll probably keep that..
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on July 06, 2018, 10:15:04 AM
my guess is they will keep it as is right there.

l wonder who will be making the new vehicle?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: t123ken on July 06, 2018, 11:02:56 AM
Pic is from Instagram. Banner says E-154ís last parade in the grass. 154 is in the Travis, SI 4th of July parade every year. Next yearís parade  itíll be Squad 154. Engine 154ís nickname is ďSplendor in the grassĒ - theyíre quartered in an swampy/tall grass/marsh area of SI.


(https://s8.postimg.cc/fnj88u2sx/D0_B60_A1_E-81_A5-460_A-9_C85-5_D54_FCCD0998.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/fnj88u2sx/)

And parts of the movie "Splendor in the Grass" were filmed in Travis.  The location of house used was on the corner of Victory Boulevard and Roswell Avenue, now an empty lot.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on July 06, 2018, 11:11:03 AM
Anybody know what youíre going to do with the extra Apparatus they have the foam truck,brush truck and that other truck to carry that small brush truck that small boat/ zodiac  would come in handy Iím sure theyíll probably keep that..
"Splender in the Grass" is a movie filmed close to current E 154 quarters.  Movie was released in 1961.  Natalie Wood and Warren Beatty were stars.  House used was at 4144 Victory Blvd.  It had an attached store in front.


     (https://s22.postimg.cc/tkca3fxn1/splendorinthegrass01.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/tkca3fxn1/)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on July 06, 2018, 12:47:16 PM
 Are the Brush foam truck crossed staffed? There is also that arc there. Is the squad co going to handle it all
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: CVILLE 7111 on July 06, 2018, 02:15:31 PM
With S154 coming into service, will E165 retain their Haz Tech responsibilities and/or their rigs?  Thanks!
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: TLTruckie on July 06, 2018, 02:49:21 PM
With S154 coming into service, will E165 retain their Haz Tech responsibilities and/or their rigs?  Thanks!
My guess is E165 will remain as a Haz Tech Comp and R-5 will  no longer be a primary haz mat responce , just like the rest of the other Rescues .
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNY Response Videos on July 27, 2018, 01:12:03 PM
ďDeputy Mayor Laura Anglin, #FDNY Commissioner Daniel A. Nigro, and @JoeBorelliNYC today announced the location of FDNYís eighth Squad Company and the first Squad unit #onStatenIsland. Read more: on.nyc.gov/2LQqTmHĒ

https://twitter.com/fdny/status/1022877241477398528?s=21

Will it be called squad 154 or squad 8?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on July 27, 2018, 01:16:01 PM
Looks like it may be called Squad 8 judging from the poster they had in the pic. My question is will it be quartered WITH E154 (donít see the point) or in place of E154? Itíd be cool if E154 stayed and the new Squad served as a Truck company for the area being they donít have one. Either way great day for SI and the dept.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on July 27, 2018, 01:47:09 PM
Is that s foam unit in the back ground
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on July 27, 2018, 01:52:57 PM
 Is there an equipment list of the stuff that carried on the second piece of a squad company
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on July 27, 2018, 01:54:25 PM
I wonder if that HMTU unit that is being built that was possibly going to rescue five might be shifted to squad eight instead
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on July 27, 2018, 02:01:26 PM
 I hope thereís a dedicated operator for that foam truck because I doubt school at eight is going to cross staff the foam truck and the brush truck
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on July 27, 2018, 02:15:45 PM
Is that s foam unit in the back ground
Yes, Foam 154.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: raybrag on July 27, 2018, 02:24:31 PM
Anybody know if a new squad apparatus has been ordered?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JA290 on July 27, 2018, 02:30:24 PM
I hope thereís a dedicated operator for that foam truck because I doubt school at eight is going to cross staff the foam truck and the brush truck

Theyíre not gonna dedicate people to the foam units
The foam and Bfu will get sent to neighboring firehouses
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on July 27, 2018, 02:39:53 PM
Pics from SILIVE


(https://s8.postimg.cc/e8vo4k89d/10_EA2_ACB-_DFDD-4_BF1-_A452-_B5_F5_BCAB50_F9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/e8vo4k89d/)

(https://s8.postimg.cc/yg93wuy0x/75472_BE3-_D25_E-47_CE-91_A5-222_B35_A17_B1_F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/yg93wuy0x/)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on July 27, 2018, 03:10:09 PM
I hope thereís a dedicated operator for that foam truck because I doubt school at eight is going to cross staff the foam truck and the brush truck

Theyíre not gonna dedicate people to the foam units
The foam and Bfu will get sent to neighboring firehouses
cool
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on July 27, 2018, 03:15:51 PM
What is carried on their second piece is there a Equipment run down thanks
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Sherman4142 on July 27, 2018, 03:53:25 PM
What is carried on their second piece is there a Equipment run down thanks

I'll one up you.

Is there a list of equipment carried on the primary piece as well as the second? I've been looking only been able to find some videos of the not so current apparatus.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: AuxWarYearsCapt on July 27, 2018, 05:10:03 PM
G-MAN.........   PLEASE CHIME IN ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS SINCE YOU ARE BY THE S.I. BIG HOUSE... 160/5/8/TAC ECT ECT

I personally think allot are confused with the Squad sign.  I feel they were trying to show that there will be 8 Squad company's in the FDNY....   

ENGINE COMPANY 154 will be designated SQUAD CO.  154

THE FOAM UNIT WILL BE ASSIGNED TO ANOTHER UNIT THAT HAS ROOM IN THERE QUARTERS.

THE JOB SHOULD REFURBISH ONE OF THE BETTER SPARES (2008) AND ASSIGN IT TO E 165

THE JOB SHOULD TAKE E 165s  SQUAD STYLE RIG RELETTER IT AND ASSIGN IT TO E 154 ( SQ 154 )

WHEN THE FIRST NEW KME ARRIVES ( KP 19001)  ASSIGN IT TO E 165

WHEN THE NEW SQUAD APPARATUS ARRIVES ASSIGN IT TO
SQUAD 154 AND PUT THERE APPARATUS INTO THE SQUAD SPARE POOL.

E 165 WILL BE THE S.I. HAZ MAT ENGINE AND GET A 2ND PIECE

G-MAN ????????

Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: AuxWarYearsCapt on July 27, 2018, 05:18:37 PM
 Sorry.....   FDNY STATEN ISLAND ???

WHAT DO YOU THINK????

Now that l think A few mins one of the new kme's should be in service by Oct / Nov..  If so a few of my thoughts are changed
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on July 27, 2018, 05:32:23 PM
E165 already has there second piece hmtu
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: raybrag on July 27, 2018, 05:56:59 PM
I personally think allot are confused with the Squad sign.  I feel they were trying to show that there will be 8 Squad company's in the FDNY....   

ENGINE COMPANY 154 will be designated SQUAD CO.  154


Well, I'm not the GMan (although sometimes I wish I had his knowledge), but I'm inclined to disagree with you, Aux.  The sign that the Commissioner had next to him clearly stated "Squad Company 8", not "Squad Company 154".  Also, Peter Haskell of WCBS radio reported that Squad 8 will "join Engine 154 in Travis", which suggests that it will be an entirely new company.  Of course, we have to assume he's right, since reporters NEVER make mistakes, right?  ::) ::) But who knows . . . stranger things have happened.

https://wcbs880.radio.com/articles/news/specially-trained-fire-squad-coming-staten-island
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Bulldog on July 27, 2018, 06:03:48 PM
G-MAN.........   PLEASE CHIME IN ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS SINCE YOU ARE BY THE S.I. BIG HOUSE... 160/5/8/TAC ECT ECT

I personally think allot are confused with the Squad sign.  I feel they were trying to show that there will be 8 Squad company's in the FDNY....   

ENGINE COMPANY 154 will be designated SQUAD CO.  154

THE FOAM UNIT WILL BE ASSIGNED TO ANOTHER UNIT THAT HAS ROOM IN THERE QUARTERS.

THE JOB SHOULD REFURBISH ONE OF THE BETTER SPARES (2008) AND ASSIGN IT TO E 165

THE JOB SHOULD TAKE E 165s  SQUAD STYLE RIG RELETTER IT AND ASSIGN IT TO E 154 ( SQ 154 )

WHEN THE FIRST NEW KME ARRIVES ( KP 19001)  ASSIGN IT TO E 165

WHEN THE NEW SQUAD APPARATUS ARRIVES ASSIGN IT TO
SQUAD 154 AND PUT THERE APPARATUS INTO THE SQUAD SPARE POOL.

E 165 WILL BE THE S.I. HAZ MAT ENGINE AND GET A 2ND PIECE

G-MAN ????????
That certainly sounds like some reasonable assumptions although things don't actually happen reasonably a lot of the time.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: guitarman314 on July 27, 2018, 09:15:28 PM
G-MAN.........   PLEASE CHIME IN ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS SINCE YOU ARE BY THE S.I. BIG HOUSE... 160/5/8/TAC ECT ECT

I personally think allot are confused with the Squad sign.  I feel they were trying to show that there will be 8 Squad company's in the FDNY....   

ENGINE COMPANY 154 will be designated SQUAD CO.  154

THE FOAM UNIT WILL BE ASSIGNED TO ANOTHER UNIT THAT HAS ROOM IN THERE QUARTERS.

THE JOB SHOULD REFURBISH ONE OF THE BETTER SPARES (2008) AND ASSIGN IT TO E 165

THE JOB SHOULD TAKE E 165s  SQUAD STYLE RIG RELETTER IT AND ASSIGN IT TO E 154 ( SQ 154 )

WHEN THE FIRST NEW KME ARRIVES ( KP 19001)  ASSIGN IT TO E 165

WHEN THE NEW SQUAD APPARATUS ARRIVES ASSIGN IT TO
SQUAD 154 AND PUT THERE APPARATUS INTO THE SQUAD SPARE POOL.

E 165 WILL BE THE S.I. HAZ MAT ENGINE AND GET A 2ND PIECE

G-MAN ????????
  I agree with everything you said, you Doug.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on July 27, 2018, 09:23:03 PM
All valid points, but seems like a lot of moving around of apparatus and whatnot. Plus being itís NYC, that could take some time. I too think it would be Squad Company 8, and if itís not that sign is extremely misleading lol.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on July 27, 2018, 09:40:43 PM
What does history say some of the other squads are named after the House   Correct.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdny747 on July 27, 2018, 09:43:24 PM
Yes that is very true all of them are except Squad 1 I think.  I think from looking at the picture with the Chief and Comm. I think they made it Squad 8 maybe since it's in Div. 8 and also maybe since they want to not loose an engine company in SI
E-18
E-41
E-61
E-252
E-270
E-288
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdhistorian on July 27, 2018, 11:16:12 PM
What does history say some of the other squads are named after the House   Correct.

The WWII era squads were numbered 21, 22, 24 (don't know why 23 was not used)

The squads of the mid 50's to 70's were numbered 1 to 9.

The present squads (except 1) retained the number of the engine that was given squad functions but which continued functioning as an engine in their first due area.

Squad 8 could be representing the 8th squad, or the 8th Division squad, or 8th of something else.  OR there may be a move to separate the engine and squad functions by uniquely identifying the 8 squads sequentially 1 to 8 similar to other SOC units.  For example, dispatched as 154 for an engine call, and dispatched as Sq 8 for a SOC duty call.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: nfd2004 on July 28, 2018, 08:18:05 AM
Yes that is very true all of them are except Squad 1 I think.  I think from looking at the picture with the Chief and Comm. I think they made it Squad 8 maybe since it's in Div. 8 and also maybe since they want to not loose an engine company in SI
E-18
E-41
E-61
E-252
E-270
E-288

 I think that might be a very valid point. I've heard that Staten Islands population is growing and there is only a limited amount of engine companies to cover such a large geographical area. Thus keeping Eng 154.

 I'm sure "68jk09" or "fdhistorian" can give more facts about this but, when Engine 41 was about to be closed, as I remember, there was a strong uproar from the neighborhood. They didn't want it closed. In response to that the term "Enhanced Engine" came into play. This was shortly after the attempted closing of the engine company now occupied by Squad 1. It became known as "The Peoples Firehouse" because citizens took over the firehouse in order to keep it open.

 After that activity and the fact that the neighborhood residents would NOT let the city close it, Engine 41 became known as "Enhanced Engine 41" which began it's duties to cover all working fires, pin jobs, etc, in the Bronx, Harlem and Washington Hgts.

 Later I believe a study was done and after several drills, there seemed to be the threat of a terrorist chemical attack in NYC. It was decided that the FDNY needed additional Haz Mat trained companies. Thereby creating what we know today as the FDNY Squad Companies of Sqd 18, 41, 61, 252, 270, 288. Squad 1 also became a part of that as well.

 As I remember it was the late B/C Ray Downey, who was killed on 9/11, who pushed for that to happen.

 This is how "I" remember it was and the FDNY Squad Companies were born again. Prior to that, the FDNY Squad Companies were considered extra manning in order to fight the large numbers of fires that were going on during the very busy "FDNY War Years".
 In fact, this site's administrator, Retired Captain John Bendick, worked as a firefighter assigned to Squad Co 2 in the South Bronx. Squad 2 was manned at Engine 73 quarters, but during the night shifts, Squad 2 rotated between Engine 73, 82, and 85. As history tells us some of the busiest firefighting units in the history of the FDNY for fire duty.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on July 28, 2018, 11:01:35 AM
It looks like the sign used in the picture was not a typical sign that would be prepared by FDNY for a function or celebration.  It looks like a sign done while you wait in a shop by someone who did not know much about the unit to be organized, date, designation, FDNY or SI.   I think the purpose of the event may not have been to announce an official name designation for the new squad, which will probably be Squad 154, as FDNY has been doing with all new squads formed (18, 41, 61, 252, 270, 288) which perform the both special ops and engine functions 

     (https://s33.postimg.cc/qm0ourn3v/S_8.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/image/qm0ourn3v/)

The old squad numbering system (Squads 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 9, 21, 22, 240) was used for manpower-only squads which originally used converted hose tenders, vans and trucks to respond.

Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: IRISH on July 28, 2018, 11:44:50 AM
Rumour the Squads where all being re numbered Sq 1-8 .... any truth ???  :o :o 
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Bulldog on July 28, 2018, 12:37:36 PM
Rumour the Squads where all being re numbered Sq 1-8 .... any truth ???  :o :o
I personally don't see that happening, the present squad companies have to much history associated with the house and unit number.  I don't see any reason to change it.  Other than the rescues is no real rhyme or reason to the numbering of apparatus.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on July 28, 2018, 12:39:41 PM
Whatís the pool u to we got to start taking bets. Squad 8 or squad 154 😂
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: raybrag on July 28, 2018, 12:47:24 PM
Squad 154 where are you???  (for the more ancient members)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: johnd248 on July 28, 2018, 01:20:48 PM
Instead of guessing who is going to be what number and where equipment is going to be stationed, perhaps it is better to wait for the FDNY to figure it out.  They will probably let everyone know in due time.  JMO
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdhistorian on July 28, 2018, 02:16:13 PM
Staffed units with citywide specialized responsibilities (Marine, Rescue, earlier Squads, RAC, etc) have historically had their own numbering series.

Engines and Ladders and Battalions are numbered geographically by boro. (MN/BX, BK/Q, SI) 

Dual staffed units (Foam, SOC Rapid Response, Decon, HazMat Tech, etc) tend to be numbered with their full time unit.

Units that are frequently separately staffed get their own numbers. (Brush)

Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: raybrag on July 28, 2018, 03:52:34 PM
John, you're gonna have to stop that . . . you're making too much sense.  8)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 68jk09 on July 28, 2018, 05:08:10 PM
In answer to Willy's reply # 83 above.....  see my Reply # 46 on this thread..... http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,1104.msg167086.html#msg167086
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: nfd2004 on July 28, 2018, 08:06:03 PM
 Also, with the help of Chief "68jk09", Squad 1 was organized after the closing of then Engine 269.

 As I remember it, once Squad 1 was organized due to local residents opposing the Eng 269 closing, the agreement was to keep Squad 1 for responses only in it's 1st, 2nd, and 3rd due response area as a firefighting company. Not to be assigned to any other areas beyond that response area.

 However, "The Peoples Firehouse" began because of the closing of Engine 212. Where the citizens decided to occupy that firehouse and not let the city close it. I know that this topic has been discussed here as well.

 Our discussions today of the forming of a new Squad Company for Staten Island, just as the forming of Squad 1, and the story of "The Peoples Firehouse" will all be forgotten unless there is strong effort to preserve that for those who follow us.

 And regarding history, reply #88 by "raybrag" here, you can find a little information of just what he might have been referring to when he said: "Squad 154 Where Are You" ? (see: Television from a different time" reply # 30). 
 "A Class Call", Ray.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: raybrag on July 28, 2018, 08:50:26 PM
I knew you'd catch the reference, Willy (Gunther Toody) Dennis.  Here's a clip:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5MkCAwupe0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5MkCAwupe0)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Fireinfo101 on August 04, 2018, 04:41:08 AM
Engine 154 has been chosen.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JOR176 on August 04, 2018, 10:09:47 AM
Willie in reply to yours Sq1 when reinstated were given ONLY 1st due Boxes.Gov Hugh Carey had a townhouse on Prospect Park West and was the main force behind it.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Bulldog on August 04, 2018, 11:10:20 AM
Engine 154 has been chosen.
I wonder if the members of E-154 will receive any priority for staffing the new squad.  Does anybody know the actual procedure for choosing members for the squad company?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 8060rock on August 04, 2018, 02:22:40 PM
When E41 became SQ41 - spots were initially offered to any members of E41 that wanted to stay - don't know if that's still the way?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: memory master on August 04, 2018, 02:44:47 PM
Engine 154 has been chosen.
I wonder if the members of E-154 will receive any priority for staffing the new squad.  Does anybody know the actual procedure for choosing members for the squad company?
Yes they would if they choose to undergo all of the additional training and have 5 or more years on the job.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: lucky on August 04, 2018, 02:55:32 PM
I don't think that the extra pay for SOC members was in place at the time of formation of the 5 squads from Engine Cos.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Signal73 on August 20, 2018, 10:00:37 AM
Yes most likely 168 will get the foam rig

Does it stay Foam 154 or become Foam 168
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Joeyengine on August 20, 2018, 05:46:38 PM
Change that 167 is getting the foam again  168 maybe in line for the bfu thats quartered  in 167
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 68jk09 on August 29, 2018, 07:28:19 PM
SQUAD*8....DO 83  8-28-18....     TIMEKEEPING MANUAL
Timekeeping Manual dated September 15, 2015, Chapter 4, Agency Data Codes is amended as follows:
Under Section 4.7 Add: Squad 8......................8008
Affected pages 13-14 (Rev. 08/28/18) reflecting this change have been issued to all Bureaus and Divisions
for equal distribution to all units under their command.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on September 07, 2018, 10:19:43 PM
Any updates on the squad
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: scoobyd on September 08, 2018, 09:50:23 AM
The final roster will be selected.  They will attend HAZMAT and Rescue School in the near future.  Then the company will be put online.  It's a few months away.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: bklyndisp54 on September 19, 2018, 07:54:33 PM
Rumor has it that E154 will become Squad 8.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: scoobyd on September 19, 2018, 08:54:32 PM
Rumor?   U been away?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on September 20, 2018, 10:19:04 PM
Iím suprprise that they donít use existing squad members to get it rolling
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Bulldog on September 21, 2018, 09:24:58 AM
Iím suprprise that they donít use existing squad members to get it rolling

Most of the members of the existing squad probably like with are and don't want the commute all the way out to the island for their job.  Besides, there are rules written as a contract about relocating members and you just can't pick up and move them someplace else without a justifiable reason.  You also would be breaking up teams that work well together.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on September 21, 2018, 10:15:56 AM
Okay I imagine they would want some veterans on there not a full rookie crew thatís what I was also thinking
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on September 21, 2018, 10:22:35 AM
So with this new squad are there plans to add more around the city elsewhere? With the growing needs of special units im sure they could us more help
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 68jk09 on September 21, 2018, 12:43:12 PM
Okay I imagine they would want some veterans on there not a full rookie crew thatís what I was also thinking
There will be some existing SQ Members in the new SQ when it opens after the new Members are trained.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Mike M on September 21, 2018, 09:53:21 PM
Iím suprprise that they donít use existing squad members to get it rolling

Most of the members of the existing squad probably like with are and don't want the commute all the way out to the island for their job.  Besides, there are rules written as a contract about relocating members and you just can't pick up and move them someplace else without a justifiable reason.  You also would be breaking up teams that work well together.

I'm sure quite a few Squad 1 and 18 members may be SI residents so if they trade off less work for a better commute then maybe they will transfer into the new squad.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on September 22, 2018, 05:45:52 PM
So if a member is coming from and engine company do they go through a ladder company training first and then squad company training and vice versa or do they just go straight into a squad style training
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Signal73 on October 09, 2018, 08:33:42 AM
Photo was sent to me. I know photographer


(https://i.postimg.cc/zLBXPKXr/C83433_BB-972_B-434_F-_AFD1-79_B4_A97_D1_FB6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLBXPKXr)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 4 truck on October 09, 2018, 04:05:29 PM
So if a member is coming from and engine company do they go through a ladder company training first and then squad company training and vice versa or do they just go straight into a squad style training
You are trained in probie school on engine and ladder company training. And if youíre in a double house you end up working across the floor a decent amount and stay on top of truck work.  Or if youíre a just a good guy on the job you stay reading and drilling on different aspects of the job because thatís what you do. 
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 68jk09 on October 09, 2018, 05:30:00 PM
Photo was sent to me. I know photographer


(https://i.postimg.cc/zLBXPKXr/C83433_BB-972_B-434_F-_AFD1-79_B4_A97_D1_FB6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLBXPKXr)
The new SQ*8 Rig is the former ENG*165 Rescue Pumper....165 already has 154s old rig & 154 is using a spare for now.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdny747 on October 09, 2018, 09:18:06 PM
That looks like a brand new Rig? I thought 165 got a Rescue pumper for a reason are they going to get them a new one?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on October 09, 2018, 09:47:07 PM
That looks like a brand new Rig? I thought 165 got a Rescue pumper for a reason are they going to get them a new one?

they probably prettied it up and gave it a good going over....
somewhere in these articles it says why they wound up with that rig, .... l'll see if l can find the post from 2013 - 14 or whenever ... otherwise someone here will certainly know the specifics.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on October 09, 2018, 10:02:28 PM
 bstan270
Re: New Seagrave Squad Rescue Pumpers
ę Reply #23 on: September 05, 2013, 06:29:10 PM Ľ
Quote
" As per Sept-Oct. Issue of FAJ, the add-on order for eight regular 2000gpm pumpers to Seagrave has been changed to seven regular 2000gpm pumpers, and 1000gpm rescue pumper. Possibly another Squad coming online? S.I.? Any scuttlebut? "
________________________________________________________________________________________________________

 tbendick
Re: New Seagrave Squad Rescue Pumpers
ę Reply #24 on: September 05, 2013, 08:24:00 PM Ľ
Quote
'' Or just quality spare. ''
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on October 09, 2018, 10:06:57 PM
the above copy & pasted from page 15 under apparatus topic... " New Seagrave Squad Rescue Pumpers "  ( September 5, 2013 )  are the only mention of the 8th rescue pumper being ordered, but l remember more on the topic as it must be under a different topic, l will keep looking....
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on October 09, 2018, 10:37:37 PM
That looks like a brand new Rig? I thought 165 got a Rescue pumper for a reason are they going to get them a new one?

Ok, l found it... page 12 in " Apparatus " topic " Engine 165 to Squad 165 "started January 28, 2014 .... probably explained there, there's 10 pages to read there... emphasis on reply 25 & 33 - 34. ....
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 68jk09 on October 10, 2018, 03:36:28 AM
Photo was sent to me. I know photographer


(https://i.postimg.cc/zLBXPKXr/C83433_BB-972_B-434_F-_AFD1-79_B4_A97_D1_FB6.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/zLBXPKXr)
The new SQ*8 Rig is the former ENG*165 Rescue Pumper....165 already has 154s old rig & 154 is using a spare for now.
It is what it is.... a done deal ..... i hope it benefits S. I.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 811 on October 10, 2018, 07:01:20 AM
That looks like a brand new Rig? I thought 165 got a Rescue pumper for a reason are they going to get them a new one?

Sometimes, apparatus and house assignments defy any logical reason.  About 20 - 25 years ago, a number of new, larger, Brush Fire Units were acquired.  Logic would say that E165 was an ideal house to station one at. 

But, the story goes, it wouldn't fit in 165 quarters because the Chief Medical Officer's car was stored there - and then the car would have to be parked outside the firehouse - and she didn't want to have to get into a cold car in the winter.  So, her car stayed warm at E165 and the BFU was shipped off to a North Shore engine - likely as far removed from any brush area as you can get on Staten Island.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on October 11, 2018, 06:17:29 AM
There are photos of Squad 8 on the Texron Facebook page.

Thanks.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Bulldog on October 11, 2018, 10:26:57 AM
There are photos of Squad 8 on the Texron Facebook page.
Could you please post a link to the Texron Facebook page you are referring to there a lot of Facebook pages with that name on them.  Thanks.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdce54 on October 11, 2018, 11:42:38 AM
There are photos of Squad 8 on the Texron Facebook page.
Could you please post a link to the Texron Facebook page you are referring to there a lot of Facebook pages with that name on them.  Thanks.
Bulldog, it's Texron Commercial Auto Body Works Inc on Facebook. I'm sorry but I don't know how to post links.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: CVILLE 7111 on October 11, 2018, 12:56:20 PM
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Texron-Commercial-Auto-Body-Works-inc-966183590202152/photos/?ref=page_internal
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: memory master on October 11, 2018, 01:55:12 PM
Not to put a damper on this "new" company but it seems the upper echelon and politicians are hoodwinking the public. They, the public, don't know the difference between a squad company and an engine company. They'll look and see that they have a new shiny fire engine at the neighborhood fire house. Now, should theses quarters also house a spare or reserve engine they'll think that they have two companies therein. What they don't know is that the Squad will be all over the borough with responses. If, God forbid, there is a job in the neighborhood and it takes the second due engine time to get there they'll be in an uproar because the neighborhood company should have been there in minutes. Yes, having a Squad for S.I. is a good thing but what does it accomplish by taking a first due unit to do that? Believe me I'm all for it and I'm not nitpicking but in an area where units are few and far between there is a good chance of problems.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on October 11, 2018, 06:21:41 PM
To add onto that, an area of SI that is so far from any other company.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Bulldog on October 11, 2018, 11:18:29 PM
https://www.facebook.com/pg/Texron-Commercial-Auto-Body-Works-inc-966183590202152/photos/?ref=page_internal
Thanks!
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on October 13, 2018, 09:49:37 PM
nother pic plus the Sister Support Rig to Squad 8 FH18001


https://www.facebook.com/966183590202152/photos/pcb.1224455724374936/1224455701041605/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/966183590202152/photos/a.966656556821522/1224451877708654/?type=3&theater

Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on October 13, 2018, 10:26:11 PM
Not to put a damper on this "new" company but it seems the upper echelon and politicians are hoodwinking the public. They, the public, don't know the difference between a squad company and an engine company. They'll look and see that they have a new shiny fire engine at the neighborhood fire house. Now, should theses quarters also house a spare or reserve engine they'll think that they have two companies therein. What they don't know is that the Squad will be all over the borough with responses. If, God forbid, there is a job in the neighborhood and it takes the second due engine time to get there they'll be in an uproar because the neighborhood company should have been there in minutes. Yes, having a Squad for S.I. is a good thing but what does it accomplish by taking a first due unit to do that? Believe me I'm all for it and I'm not nitpicking but in an area where units are few and far between there is a good chance of problems.''

Quote from: FDNYSTATENISLAND on October 11, 2018, 06:21:41 PM
...."To add onto that, an area of SI that is so far from any other company."


ya, ideally they would have added it instead of replacing an engine company with it.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on November 04, 2018, 11:18:37 PM
Squad 8 rig is complete and at the rock. I read that itís supposed to go in service sometime in the first week of December.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: billyfromhill on November 05, 2018, 11:29:54 AM
Why is Squad 8 getting a HMTU/HM1 style rig as opposed to the commercial-cab squad rigs?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: CanadianFireman on November 05, 2018, 03:03:14 PM
I assume its because they are using the HMTU that Engine 165 was using, I think with the creation of the Squad E165 will no longer be a Haz-Engine, I could be wrong in my assumptions though.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on November 05, 2018, 05:09:47 PM
 I will add to your assumption  but I believe that was intended to be rescue fives HMTu and when they no longer have the Hazmat mission it was decided to give it to the new squad company the hmtu engine already had their second piece
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JA290 on November 05, 2018, 06:30:07 PM
I assume its because they are using the HMTU that Engine 165 was using, I think with the creation of the Squad E165 will no longer be a Haz-Engine, I could be wrong in my assumptions though.
Youíre assumption is 100% wrong.
165 will stay a HMTU
The sq8 2nd piece is a brand new 2018 Ferrara.   Originally it was supposed to be a spare, although it going to R5 could very well have been a possibility.   R5ís hazmat role has continued to diminish currently they only respond if 165 is unavailable and with the creation of sq8 I imagine 5 will no longer respond as a HMTU
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: baileyjeff on November 05, 2018, 10:40:38 PM
I agree if Squad 8 is unavailable, 166 is unavailable and a fire occurs right by Squad 8s quarters itís going to be a hike for a Engine company to get there.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: UnitWithTheUrgent on November 05, 2018, 11:37:00 PM
Not sure if it's been done before but I was thinking even with E-154 becoming a Squad they can still relocate an engine to their quarters while they are out on a job to maintain some coverage in the area.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: tem217 on November 06, 2018, 12:27:10 AM
I like the way you think however...
squad 8 should have been created as an additional unit in staten island
along with an additional battalion
with the creation of a new NYPD  precinct (121 pct)
I thought the FDNY would have had its own additions budgeted
after all...the population deems it as being necessary
AND..how much money was waisted on the now defunct "wheel" in st george
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: baileyjeff on November 06, 2018, 08:21:57 AM
Yes they can relocate an engine to Squad 8s quarters. Staten Island needs at least 2 more engines and 2 more trucks to start an additional battalion would also be nice.

I remember a while back when Staten Island had 2 5 alarm fires at the same time Vesey Paper and a brush fire.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: memory master on November 06, 2018, 10:30:20 AM
A firehouse should be built at Vesy Paper. That place is the pits. Pardon the pun.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: TLTruckie on November 06, 2018, 05:41:30 PM
Squad 8 rig is complete and at the rock. I read that itís supposed to go in service sometime in the first week of December.
they are shooting for Dec 10th.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: HCO on November 20, 2018, 05:34:05 PM
As of today, Squad 8 is scheduled to go into service December 10.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Lebby on November 23, 2018, 11:12:58 PM
Hi there, long time lurker, but this will be my first post. I saw Squad 8 on Wednesday, 11/21/18 at The Rock, looked like it was getting some last minute burns in.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: manhattan on November 23, 2018, 11:28:22 PM
Welcome aboard, Lebby.  Hope you enjoy the site.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on November 24, 2018, 06:42:45 AM
C00L.

Welcome Lebby.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: t123ken on November 24, 2018, 07:58:03 AM
Welcome, Lebby.
What does "looked like it was getting some last minute burns in" mean?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Lebby on November 24, 2018, 01:06:01 PM
I could be completely mistaken, but it appeared due to the Squad's positioning that it was being used in a live burn. Mind you it had no hose on from what I could see.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: baileyjeff on November 25, 2018, 03:29:37 PM
Does anyone know if Squad 8 is going to be a citywide response unit or restricted only to Staten Island?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Bulldog on November 25, 2018, 06:53:55 PM
Does anyone know if Squad 8 is going to be a citywide response unit or restricted only to Staten Island?
I haven't seen anything official (maybe one of the FDNY members can chime in) but I would speculate that it will respond like any of the other squads do and be sent to wherever it's needed. The only possible restriction might be that it won't be used to fill in for another squad except in dire circumstances.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: CVILLE 7111 on November 26, 2018, 10:25:03 AM
Has anyone ever determined what the reasoning (if any) was regarding the numbering for the new SI Squad?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on November 26, 2018, 10:38:53 AM
Good Question.

The only reasoning l can see is that it will be the 8th Squad .

...hmm, lol, ironically l just noticed that this reply is the 154 th reply on this subject...
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on November 26, 2018, 03:11:10 PM
They might keep that engine number open so they might reactivate that company again at a later date   
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on November 26, 2018, 09:42:32 PM
The area that engine 154 had, I believe that was the engine co the squad is replacing do they have another engine covering it as a first in now?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on November 26, 2018, 10:39:11 PM
Squad 8 would still cover 154s area as 1st Due. Theyíll go up to 3rd due boxes like the other squads. Only boxes they lost would be E154s 4th Due. Now if Squad 8 is out on a run, next Due would be 166 or 167 depending on where the box is. 154 has very large 1st due area but mostly industrial and not built up area - except for SI Mall and stores on Richmond Avenue corridor. That is built up. The mall just renovated.

E154 ran 1,740 runs in 2017 with 23 AH+. Wonder what SQ8 #s would be like.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on November 26, 2018, 11:49:42 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on November 30, 2018, 10:50:13 AM
Pic is from Facebook:


(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0LkWG6c/83-F5-AE5-B-57-AE-4-B86-BF5-D-3669-D461-E4-E7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0LkWG6c)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: nfd2004 on November 30, 2018, 06:00:58 PM
Pic is from Facebook:


(https://i.postimg.cc/Z0LkWG6c/83-F5-AE5-B-57-AE-4-B86-BF5-D-3669-D461-E4-E7.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Z0LkWG6c)

Squad 8 would still cover 154s area as 1st Due. Theyíll go up to 3rd due boxes like the other squads. Only boxes they lost would be E154s 4th Due. Now if Squad 8 is out on a run, next Due would be 166 or 167 depending on where the box is. 154 has very large 1st due area but mostly industrial and not built up area - except for SI Mall and stores on Richmond Avenue corridor. That is built up. The mall just renovated.

E154 ran 1,740 runs in 2017 with 23 AH+. Wonder what SQ8 #s would be like.

 Thanks "FDNYSTATENISLAND" for your update concerning the new Squad 8.

 I remember a couple of guys telling me that it was a 25-30 minute run (under good traffic conditions) for Squad 1 to get to parts of Staten Island
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: STAjo on November 30, 2018, 09:55:03 PM

nfd2004

  "I remember a couple of guys telling me that it was a 25-30 minute run (under good traffic conditions) for Squad 1 to get to parts of Staten Island"

 I remember a couple of 'Squad Guys' telling me - it Sometimes took 25-30 Min.s to get to Vz. Bridge   ;)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: TLTruckie on December 01, 2018, 02:07:15 PM
Unless something changes between now and Dec10th , Sq-8 will only have first and second due engine boxes ...so will be a squad one what would have been 3rd due boxes .
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: memory master on December 01, 2018, 02:56:48 PM
Unless something changes between now and Dec10th , Sq-8 will only have first and second due engine boxes ...so will be a squad one what would have been 3rd due boxes .
10-5 Please
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: baileyjeff on December 01, 2018, 07:08:29 PM
So Staten Island is basically losing an Engine, Staten Island will need another Engine sooner rather than later.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JOR176 on December 01, 2018, 07:33:24 PM
So Staten Island is basically losing an Engine, Staten Island will need another Engine sooner rather than later.
All the squads in the city respond as an ENGINE CO. to 1st.2nd.and 3rd due boxes it is after that they respond as a Squad just the way the other Squads work.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on December 01, 2018, 08:11:49 PM
Kind of defeats the purpose of having a squad thereSweaty keep responding on the first and second do them when they really need a squad they wonít be available because they keep running on engine calls. I can see them responding on medical runs because I would want the nearest unit available but if they get calls on a bunch of small stuff there going to get overwhelmed the whole point on adding a squad there was the response time from the other boroughs . Just my opinion
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: lucky on December 01, 2018, 09:14:53 PM
You tell that to the civilian who is waiting for a line at a location several blocks from the fire house because the squad couldn't respond because they were waiting for a 10-75 mattress fire in a bungalow fire on the south shore that is a 15 minute run.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on December 01, 2018, 09:19:08 PM
Okay
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on December 02, 2018, 12:13:57 AM
Unless something changes between now and Dec10th , Sq-8 will only have first and second due engine boxes ...so will be a squad one what would have been 3rd due boxes .
other squads have 3rd Due boxes, but SQ8 will only get 2nd due?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JOR176 on December 02, 2018, 12:32:12 PM
I'm quite sure The FDNY Bureau Of Operations know exactly what the Sq was put there for and how to assign the sq,maybe you should call the Operations and express your opinion to them.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdhistorian on December 02, 2018, 01:12:22 PM
Most companies have collateral special functions that can take them outside of their first alarm areas.
Engine - Squad are only one example.

High call volumes and collateral assignments are both reflected by how often the G-man effect occurs.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on December 02, 2018, 03:56:41 PM
I'm quite sure The FDNY Bureau Of Operations know exactly what the Sq was put there for and how to assign the sq,maybe you should call the Operations and express your opinion to them.
I called Trump instead
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: nfd2004 on December 02, 2018, 06:32:53 PM
 It has been reported that in a few days the new Squad 8 will be put in service. Knowing the FDNY, I'm sure there will be an entire list of the general orders and operating procedure assignments for Squad 8, including it's response areas and every exception to the rule.

 When that happens (Dec 10th we've been advised), I hope that one of our members may be able to provide a link to it or pass on the general orders involving that unit.

 The FDNY has the leadership qualities and the expertise to assign this unit in the best way possible to protect the citizens of the City of New York.

 I also know that if adjustments need to be made, they don't hesitate to do that either. 
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JOR176 on December 02, 2018, 07:33:14 PM
I'm quite sure The FDNY Bureau Of Operations know exactly what the Sq was put there for and how to assign the sq,maybe you should call the Operations and express your opinion to them.
I called Trump instead


Now THAT is funny.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 69 METS on December 02, 2018, 08:49:18 PM
It has been reported that in a few days the new Squad 8 will be put in service. Knowing the FDNY, I'm sure there will be an entire list of the general orders and operating procedure assignments for Squad 8, including it's response areas and every exception to the rule.

 When that happens (Dec 10th we've been advised), I hope that one of our members may be able to provide a link to it or pass on the general orders involving that unit.

 The FDNY has the leadership qualities and the expertise to assign this unit in the best way possible to protect the citizens of the City of New York.

 I also know that if adjustments need to be made, they don't hesitate to do that either.

As always Willy, you are the voice of reason; whether it's tools, apparatus purchases, response assignments or standard operating guidelines, you always show great respect for the knowledge and experience of the fire officers and firefighters of the FDNY.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: manhattan on December 02, 2018, 09:56:43 PM
Nicely and well said, 69 Mets.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: TLTruckie on December 02, 2018, 11:40:42 PM
Unless something changes between now and Dec10th , Sq-8 will only have first and second due engine boxes ...so will be a squad one what would have been 3rd due boxes .
other squads have 3rd Due boxes, but SQ8 will only get 2nd due?
[/quot. Yes, unless something changes in the next few days , Sq-8 will only have first & second due engine boxes.  This is different then the rest of the other squad companies who have 1st , 2nd and third due eng boxes. It all has to do w the very large response area E-154 had.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: baileyjeff on December 04, 2018, 03:48:01 PM
I just hope a regular engine is added back to Squad 8 firehouse.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: memory master on December 04, 2018, 06:22:05 PM
I just hope a regular engine is added back to Squad 8 firehouse.
Think about how long it took to get a Squad on the Island. Now, quadruple that time and maybe you'll see another engine company. Suffice it to say not happening.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 68jk09 on December 04, 2018, 06:38:33 PM
SQ*8 IN SERVICE 12-10-18....  http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/insider/resources/do/2018/109_sup_77_2018.pdf
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: nfd2004 on December 04, 2018, 06:55:47 PM
SQ*8 IN SERVICE 12-10-18....  http://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/insider/resources/do/2018/109_sup_77_2018.pdf

 Thanks Chief, we now have the "OFFICIAL WORD" on the starting date of the newly formed Squad 8.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: baileyjeff on December 04, 2018, 07:44:46 PM
Oh I know but letís just say Squad 8 is in Brooklyn on a fire, Engine 166 is on a EMS run and a fire comes in by Squad 8ís quarters. The next due Engine is at least 5 to 10 minutes away. One fire fatality in 154ís area after there disbanded.. Agree or disagree..
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: lucky on December 04, 2018, 10:09:58 PM
I don't know if this is still done but they used to team up engine companies for EMS runs. If a certain amount of engines were OOS for any reason, the remaining engines in that group were not available for EMS, only fire responses.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JA290 on December 04, 2018, 10:23:55 PM
Oh I know but letís just say Squad 8 is in Brooklyn on a fire, Engine 166 is on a EMS run and a fire comes in by Squad 8ís quarters. The next due Engine is at least 5 to 10 minutes away. One fire fatality in 154ís area after there disbanded.. Agree or disagree..

This wonít happen. 
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JA290 on December 04, 2018, 10:25:46 PM
I don't know if this is still done but they used to team up engine companies for EMS runs. If a certain amount of engines were OOS for any reason, the remaining engines in that group were not available for EMS, only fire responses.

No longer done.  No more restriction on the engines going to Ems runs if the surrounding companies are out.   Also, 2nd due now goes on segment 1 when the first due is on another run, and the nearest available for entry, carry,  and Ems-rescue (PD 10-54R code)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdhistorian on December 04, 2018, 11:35:04 PM
After moving to their present firehouse in 1972, Engine 154 was disbanded for nearly six years from 1975 to 1981.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: baileyjeff on December 05, 2018, 08:48:51 AM
Letís see what happens!
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Lebby on December 05, 2018, 02:51:42 PM
Yesterday I saw Squad 8 at the Rock in the traditional paint scheme, but today I say it going north bound on the FDR with a black stripe instead of the white.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNY Response Videos on December 06, 2018, 01:53:48 PM
Photos from Rafael Fernandez:

(https://i.postimg.cc/tYmRBFfD/06-C09825-9054-49-B9-8-F01-2-F2944-CDCCAD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tYmRBFfD)

(https://i.postimg.cc/mtr23mdt/346-E6418-EF13-41-CC-9722-E60874-C992-FB.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mtr23mdt)


(https://i.postimg.cc/MMbK5N2j/4255-D283-2286-4587-9206-AD63559-CB64-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/MMbK5N2j)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on December 06, 2018, 03:16:22 PM
Very cool! I like the Richmond on the side, Squad 1 has Brooklyn on their door. And I like the originated date on the side compartment. Exciting stuff
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on December 06, 2018, 03:49:40 PM
Cool
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdny747 on December 06, 2018, 10:10:38 PM
What does OC8HO mean?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on December 06, 2018, 10:28:32 PM
Ocho in Spanish is 8. Just design
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 69 METS on December 06, 2018, 11:43:23 PM
What does OC8HO mean?

Pronounced: Acch-Eight-Hoe.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Bulldog on December 07, 2018, 08:23:50 AM
Does anybody know what the background is on the black striping and lettering?  I personally think it looks rather ugly. When I 1st read couple people posting about it I thought it was just something special and would be removed but I look at the pictures above it definitely looks permanent.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on December 07, 2018, 09:44:00 AM
theres a few engine cos that did the black too....

Engine 43 is one of them....

http://fdnytrucks.com/files/html/bronx/e43.htm
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: t123ken on December 07, 2018, 09:54:16 AM
I didn't know E-43 had it.  I assumed the black was to match the black hoods that S.O.C. seems to prefer.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on December 07, 2018, 01:40:05 PM
Very cool! I like the Richmond on the side, Squad 1 has Brooklyn on their door. And I like the originated date on the side compartment. Exciting stuff
For a long time SI units, dispatcher, boxes, radio, voice alarm were called "Richmond".  In the 1980s, designations became "Staten Island" which was the common geographical name.  Now we have a return to "Richmond" which was the historical borough name.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Nasibova on December 07, 2018, 01:54:23 PM
Staten Island is also Richmond County .
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdny747 on December 07, 2018, 06:48:40 PM
What is that supposed to mean just asking
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: memory master on December 08, 2018, 04:56:29 AM
Manhattan = N.Y. County
Bronx        = Bronx County
Brooklyn    = Kings County
Queens      = Queens County
Staten Island = Richmond County
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on December 08, 2018, 11:28:49 AM
Manhattan = N.Y. County
Bronx        = Bronx County
Brooklyn    = Kings County
Queens      = Queens County
Staten Island = Richmond County

Boroughs are on left, counties on right.  SI was borough of Richmond until 1975. 
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdhistorian on December 08, 2018, 11:43:03 AM
Manhattan = N.Y. County
Bronx        = Bronx County
Brooklyn    = Kings County
Queens      = Queens County
Staten Island = Richmond County

Boroughs are on left, counties on right.  SI was borough of Richmond until 1975.

Under the 1898 City Charter adopted by the New York State Legislature, a "borough" is a municipal corporation that is created when a county is merged with populated areas within it. - wikipedia

The borough contiguous with Bronx County is The Bronx.

County agencies, such as the courts, are subdivisions of the State of New York.
Boroughs are subdivisions of the City of New York.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on December 08, 2018, 12:24:48 PM
Are there separate county or borough councils
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on December 09, 2018, 03:48:29 PM
6:00PM tonight starts the last tour of E154. Tomorrow is the first tour of SQ8.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdhistorian on December 09, 2018, 06:46:50 PM
Are there separate county or borough councils
Boroughs have limited administrative functions.
State agencies operate at county level.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 811 on December 09, 2018, 11:43:33 PM
Next question... What in the world is the Borough President?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: manhattan on December 09, 2018, 11:49:16 PM
That's what most of us in New York wonder. (Sorry, I couldn't resist!)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 811 on December 10, 2018, 06:10:38 AM
That's what most of us in New York wonder. (Sorry, I couldn't resist!)
Exactly why I posted...
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: enginecap on December 10, 2018, 08:47:42 AM
I didn't know E-43 had it.  I assumed the black was to match the black hoods that S.O.C. seems to prefer.
the black hoods allow them to go in deeper, and hotter
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: grumpy grizzly on December 10, 2018, 04:33:40 PM
If I understand this the engine company was dis-banded and the squad company was organized. If it responds as a first or second due @ a fire and is committed there is no squad available. Is that correct?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: TLTruckie on December 10, 2018, 04:49:06 PM
If I understand this the engine company was dis-banded and the squad company was organized. If it responds as a first or second due @ a fire and is committed there is no squad available. Is that correct?
No, if Sq-8 is operating as a engine at a fire or other emergency ,Sq -1 will be assigned just like it was and just as it is with the other Squads. 
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: grumpy grizzly on December 10, 2018, 05:10:14 PM
Seems like a partial victory, yes you now have a squad but you lost an engine company. and if the unit is now being used as an engine you now need Squad-1 to respond. Look I am no expert on FDNY, far from it, but it just does not make sense to me. IMHO!
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on December 10, 2018, 05:50:13 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/XZ5dfWgK/M2-YPOBHUJRHPTGSLSLDIFWRBBI.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XZ5dfWgK)

https://www.silive.com/news/2018/12/first-day-on-the-job-for-staten-islands-new-fdny-squad-co-8.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4L68eXDMUss

Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on December 10, 2018, 05:54:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbvoGEbhd5g
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on December 10, 2018, 05:57:00 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/yJxrsDs1/W.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJxrsDs1)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: t123ken on December 10, 2018, 06:01:50 PM
It looks like they wasted no time in removing the "Engine 154" from the building.
I'd like to think Engine 154's members did it but I don't know.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on December 10, 2018, 06:15:58 PM
It looks like they wasted no time in removing the "Engine 154" from the building.
I'd like to think Engine 154's members did it but I don't know.


(https://i.postimg.cc/FkkVBSyq/E-154-fh-33.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/FkkVBSyq)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: memory master on December 10, 2018, 06:23:43 PM
I want to know if the chickens are still in the back yard??
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on December 10, 2018, 06:29:36 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Sj545zFG/TG.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Sj545zFG)

Captain Gardner is a veteran of more than 30 years in the FDNY. He is currently a Captain with the FDNY's Special Operations Command. Captain Gardner has previously served as the company commander of Ladder Co. 113, a Tactical Training Instructor at the FDNY Training Academy, and a Lieutenant in Ladder Co. 111 in Bedford-Stuyvesant. He was a fireman in Ladder Co. 157 in Flatbush.

Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: capthale on December 10, 2018, 08:06:36 PM
Thatís what I was getting to but ridiculed for it
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: THEMAJESTIRIUM1 on December 10, 2018, 08:25:15 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbvoGEbhd5g

( FDNY SQUAD 8 - STATEN ISLAND )  -  MY EXCLUSIVE VIDEO OF THE NEWLY ESTABLISHED BRAND NEW FDNY SQUAD 8 AND ITíS 2ND PIECE ARRIVING AT THEIR NEW QUARTERS FOR THE 1ST TIME IN STATEN ISLAND, NEW YORK CITY.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Mike M on December 10, 2018, 08:46:25 PM
It looks like they wasted no time in removing the "Engine 154" from the building.
I'd like to think Engine 154's members did it but I don't know.

Drove by 11pm last night ... it was already removed
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fdny747 on December 10, 2018, 10:13:53 PM
Does anyone know a contact at the New SQ 8? I own a company called NyFiregraphics and we do silk-screen, embroidery, patches, decals and much more check out our Facebook page
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on December 10, 2018, 11:08:31 PM
Wonder where on the island their first ever job is going to be. Any guesses??
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Safety Captain on December 11, 2018, 07:19:06 AM
Probably in their first due and will act as an Engine with Squad 1 coming as the Squad.  lol
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Signal73 on December 11, 2018, 08:07:31 AM
Squad 8 just caught their first fire
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNY Response Videos on December 11, 2018, 09:07:12 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/BLqZP3yV/13-F9994-A-9713-4223-AAC4-B81-B42-AB33-B4.png) (https://postimg.cc/BLqZP3yV)

(https://i.postimg.cc/6Tp599C7/18-EDF09-D-4193-488-A-B45-A-A40-C7-ACC317-A.png) (https://postimg.cc/6Tp599C7)

Squad 8 at its first job
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: THEMAJESTIRIUM1 on December 11, 2018, 01:51:31 PM
https://youtu.be/n2A3aYD0xpY

( FDNY Squad 8 - Established December 10, 2018 )  -  Newly Organized FDNY Squad 8 And it's Brand New 2nd Piece Arriving at Quarters for the very First Time in the Travis Chelsea area of Staten Island in New York City.  (  Video by; Skyler Jordyn Whitehead ).....
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: CVILLE 7111 on December 11, 2018, 03:03:32 PM
I noticed in another post that the CADS designation for Squad 18 was E018.  Does anyone know what the CADS designation for Squad 8 is/will be?  Thanks!
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Signal73 on December 11, 2018, 03:45:42 PM
Sq08
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: enginecap on December 11, 2018, 09:36:20 PM

(https://i.postimg.cc/BLqZP3yV/13-F9994-A-9713-4223-AAC4-B81-B42-AB33-B4.png) (https://postimg.cc/BLqZP3yV)

(https://i.postimg.cc/6Tp599C7/18-EDF09-D-4193-488-A-B45-A-A40-C7-ACC317-A.png) (https://postimg.cc/6Tp599C7)

Squad 8 at its first job
They will get used to being turned around or standing fast real quick.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 68jk09 on December 12, 2018, 02:36:27 AM
Probably in their first due and will act as an Engine with Squad 1 coming as the Squad.  lol
Sounds good to me...whats better than being the 1st Due ENG ?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: 68jk09 on December 13, 2018, 06:19:41 PM
Just curious which areas of SI SQ*8 will arrive (as a SQ) before R*5 & vice versa ?       https://www.google.com/maps/place/3730+Victory+Blvd,+Staten+Island,+NY+10314/@40.5979098,-74.3205441,11z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x89c24c8e5028e303:0x7bc70c03bce3a369!8m2!3d40.5978816!4d-74.1804645
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on December 13, 2018, 06:44:39 PM
Chief - This might be an approximate dividing line, but traffic would be a factor.  I think traffic would probably affect R 5 more than Sq 8.

     (https://i.postimg.cc/mhyGFMVy/SI-Squad-8-vs-R-5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mhyGFMVy)


Also, note the single engine companies on the West Shore of SI - E 158 and E 168.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JA290 on December 13, 2018, 07:37:06 PM
Just a few Sq8 points
-1st & 2nd due engine boxes only
-they are a ďmust fillĒ and a regular engine will be relocated any time they are seriouly unavailable. 
-theyíre not to leave the island unless directed by a staff chief
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: fred424 on December 17, 2018, 05:44:05 PM
Does anyone know if the BFU, Foam, and any other equipment has been relocated and if so where?
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: HCO on December 17, 2018, 07:03:42 PM
Foam Unit 154 moved to E-167 with E-162 as backup. Brush Fire Unit 4 is at E-167. The Polaris ATV and transporter is now at E-164. The John Deere ATV moved to E-168 with no dedicated transport vehicle.
In instances where a rescue is assigned for auto-extrications, Squad 8 will be additionally assigned in the first-due areas of Engines 151, 164, 167, and 168.
Squad 8 will be assigned as a HMTU when Haz-Tech Engine 165 is not available.
Rescue 5 is no longer designated a Haz-Mat Technician Unit and itís Haz-Tech second piece has been removed from service.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Signal73 on December 17, 2018, 07:10:41 PM
Foam Unit 154 moved to E-167 with E-162 as backup. Brush Fire Unit 4 is at E-167. The Polaris ATV and transporter is now at E-164. The John Deere ATV moved to E-168 with no dedicated transport vehicle.
In instances where a rescue is assigned for auto-extrications, Squad 8 will be additionally assigned in the first-due areas of Engines 151, 164, 167, and 168.
Squad 8 will be assigned as a HMTU when Haz-Tech Engine 165 is not available.
Rescue 5 is no longer designated a Haz-Mat Technician Unit and itís Haz-Tech second piece has been removed from service.

What about Marc-154 (The Zodiac)
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: HCO on December 17, 2018, 07:52:50 PM
The two Marine Auxiliary Rescue Craft (MARC), 154 and 164, were taken out of service at least four years ago. Not Zodiacs, they were Profile Series boats manufactured by AB Inflatables with rigid hulls and inflatable hull collars.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: Signal73 on December 17, 2018, 08:26:25 PM
Thank you HCO
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JA290 on December 17, 2018, 08:52:50 PM
The two Marine Auxiliary Rescue Craft (MARC), 154 and 164, were taken out of service at least four years ago. Not Zodiacs, they were Profile Series boats manufactured by AB Inflatables with rigid hulls and inflatable hull collars.
One of the two were destroyed during sandy and never replaced.
The policy, if I remember correctly, was for them to operate together. 
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: HCO on December 17, 2018, 10:52:38 PM
Further historical note:  the two MARC vessels were Staten Island Borough Command assets, not components of Marine Operations.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on December 17, 2018, 11:04:05 PM
Thanks for the info. Regarding SQ8 going into the first due areas of E167, 164, 168, 151 - are you saying that when there is a pin job in those areas, the Squad is automatically assigned to the run as well? If so, why is that? Thanks
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: JA290 on December 17, 2018, 11:53:13 PM
Thanks for the info. Regarding SQ8 going into the first due areas of E167, 164, 168, 151 - are you saying that when there is a pin job in those areas, the Squad is automatically assigned to the run as well? If so, why is that? Thanks
On opening day, they went in place of R5(who would then go on confirmation).  By the 11th, they were going in addition to R5.
As for why?  Theyíre closer. 
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: TLTruckie on December 18, 2018, 06:51:21 PM
That was a misunderstanding , Sq-8 was never meant to replace R-5 on the report of a pin job. The Rescues are always assimged to the initial report of a pin. It was corrected at the CO office. But yes ,S-8 is the only Squad that is assimged on a initial report of a pin. All other only respond on the confirmed pin. Remember , the squads first priority is as a engine company.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: mack on January 27, 2019, 12:35:58 PM
First month-plus for Squad 8 fairly active with approximately: 18  10-75s/all-hands, 2  2nd alarms and a few pins.
Title: Re: New Squad Co for Staten Island
Post by: FDNYSTATENISLAND on January 27, 2019, 01:24:16 PM
First month-plus for Squad 8 fairly active with approximately: 18  10-75s/all-hands, 2  2nd alarms and a few pins.
including 1 first due job