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Title: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: fdny747 on January 31, 2019, 05:18:11 PM
Does any know and or have pictures of any new firehouses or EMS stations or anything are in the works coming up to be built?
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: baileyjeff on March 27, 2019, 12:56:42 PM
No new firehouses are planned. A new firehouse is needed in Hudson Yards but the city doesn’t wanna spend the money.
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: Mike M on March 27, 2019, 08:14:36 PM
Only one is Rescue 2 close to completion but taking forever .... as usual
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: Lebby on March 27, 2019, 08:26:37 PM
They're in the process of buying land for a new EMS Station 7
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: Atlas on March 31, 2019, 10:01:55 PM
They are working on the re-built EMS station on Penn Ave in Bklyn.
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: memory master on April 01, 2019, 07:19:17 AM
They are working on the re-built EMS station on Penn Ave in Bklyn.
Ah yes, station 39, the building which started life where fuel oil trucks were stored, but then, it beats the former station on Liberty Avenue.
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: JohnnyGage on April 01, 2019, 07:50:40 AM
They are working on the re-built EMS station on Penn Ave in Bklyn.
Ah yes, station 39, the building which started life where fuel oil trucks were stored, but then, it beats the former station on Liberty Avenue.

Liberty Avenue!  Now your talking! I worked for EMS as one of the first class of "Corpsman", green outfit, badge 2388... assigned to Liberty Outpost summer of '78...I worked midnight to 8 AM covering all of East New York, Liberty 374!...Most times only ONE bus for the tour...There were times I was the only EMT in all of ENY, driven by a MVO or "driver" in a blue uniform, that only drove (and terrible at that!)...You had to be agile and quick on your feet on certain calls of 2 or more injured!...3 stabbed on Livionia and Pennsylvania...double shooting on Fulton...overtuned vehicle in weeds off Belt Pkwy with 11 occupants (no PD or FD!)...I carried a small scanner, this way I picked up from PD on scene "confirmed shooting" etc. Not uncommon on Friday/ Saturday dispatch would assign "sick, injured, or obs...with caveat, "holding this job for two hours"...due to back log.

Boss was either LeRoy Branch or Frank Castiglione. 75 PCT was the murder capital during that time, 1978-1979. I did a tour with "69 Mets" before he got on FDNY  just before I left for DCFD, July 79.

I turned down Fire Patrol...way too much action on the "bus". I kept a log, sometimes I refer to it as I kept detailed notes on certain calls I could not believe I was seeing...at a ripe old age of 21/22 I was in the middle of the Wild, Wild West, only it was East NY...  Amazing experience during an amazing time.

Typical rig of the day;


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Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: memory master on April 01, 2019, 06:17:45 PM
I had the pleasure of knowing and working with Leroy up in Maspeth when we were assigned to MTD for a while. Good guy and good sense of humor.
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: billyfromhill on April 02, 2019, 09:31:26 AM
Is RAC 2 and CR 2 moving into the new R2 house?
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: JA290 on April 02, 2019, 10:33:35 AM
Is RAC 2 and CR 2 moving into the new R2 house?

Maybe the collapse unit. 
The RAC moved to L102 last July
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: TLTruckie on April 02, 2019, 04:15:01 PM
Yes R-2 Collapse rig will be moving into their new quarters with them. And as stated ,RAC 2 is w L-102 now....all the RAC units are under Safety now , not SOC any more , so most likely not.  Besides once R-2 gets their new rig , their corrent rig will become their own spare and will also be stored in the new firehouse. All the Rescue's  will be keeping their old rigs as their own fully equipped spare.
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: 68jk09 on April 03, 2019, 12:07:36 AM
Very interesting that each Rescue will have their own spare in their Qtrs. & a Great Progression ...a far cry from years ago when there was only one Rescue spare Citywide & if that was being used by another Rescue you got a Pumper & had as much of our equipment (not all)  as you could pack in the empty hose bed....at least with a more modern Pumper there was more room with the jump seat area but if you got a CD Pumper with only the hose bed & Back Step (for the FFs) you had even less room for equipment.
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: Signal73 on April 03, 2019, 07:06:23 AM
In reguards to the “Each Rescue will have their own Spare in Quarters

Seems like No Vacancy at R1 & R4
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: baileyjeff on April 03, 2019, 11:44:31 AM
I agree Rescue 2 will have room, Rescue 3 too not sure about Rescue 1 and 4 and Rescue 5 can keep the old rig outside.
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: TLTruckie on April 03, 2019, 12:01:49 PM
Hey , I didn’t say all the Rescues in their own quarters, each Rescue will have their old rig as their own fully equipped spare , yes R-2, 3 and 5 will be able to house in their own quarters and R-1& 4 are looking for off site storage space. But the idea of having a spare read to go is awesome , no more 4+ hour change overs. Also the main idea behind R-6 , as a “reserve rescue “ not a spare , will no long be needed. I’m the event of any major incident any of the full equipped spare can be put in service in a very short Reasonable amount of time.  Not sure about this as of yet , but the Pierce may also be keep as a spare , just not full equipped. The jury is still out as far as keeping the Pierce
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: guitarman314 on April 03, 2019, 01:29:08 PM
Hey , I didn’t say all the Rescues in their own quarters, each Rescue will have their old rig as their own fully equipped spare , yes R-2, 3 and 5 will be able to house in their own quarters and R-1& 4 are looking for off site storage space. But the idea of having a spare read to go is awesome , no more 4+ hour change overs. Also the main idea behind R-6 , as a “reserve rescue “ not a spare , will no long be needed. I’m the event of any major incident any of the full equipped spare can be put in service in a very short Reasonable amount of time.  Not sure about this as of yet , but the Pierce may also be keep as a spare , just not full equipped. The jury is still out as far as keeping the Pierce
  BTW, The "OUTSTANDING" Pierce was being used by R5 yesterday afternoon. ;)
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: JA290 on April 03, 2019, 02:23:28 PM
There had been talk of a new quarters for R1.  Not sure how far it’s gotten.
 Also a developer was supposed to be trying to buy the property that e207/L110 and the 84pct with a new firehouse supposed to be built. 
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: NewsFireBuff on August 19, 2019, 10:07:19 AM

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Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: wfd444 on August 19, 2019, 05:03:48 PM
R1 should get new quarters and old house should become Eng 2 IMHO...
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: 68jk09 on August 19, 2019, 05:41:29 PM
^^^^^ That is being talked about.
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: Maxima2012 on August 20, 2019, 05:24:37 PM
Its very sad that it's been 3yrs + since they broke ground for the
new Rescue 2 quarters.  My town broke ground for a new 3 bay two
story fire station #9  in early November 2018. On target to be completed
Dec 2019. Opened by end of Jan 2020.

Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: Bulldog on August 20, 2019, 05:29:58 PM
Its very sad that it's been 3yrs + since they broke ground for the
new Rescue 2 quarters.  My town broke ground for a new 3 bay two
story fire station #9  in early November 2018. On target to be completed
Dec 2019. Opened by end of Jan 2020.
If you have ever lived in New York City or any other major city like it you would understand the reason things take so long. There's not any one item you can point your finger at but there are many contribute factors. These factors range from political climate, unions, traffic, etc. Each 1 adds its own set of problems to the equation.
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: fdhistorian on August 21, 2019, 01:53:39 AM
Its very sad that it's been 3yrs + since they broke ground for the
new Rescue 2 quarters.  My town broke ground for a new 3 bay two
story fire station #9  in early November 2018. On target to be completed
Dec 2019. Opened by end of Jan 2020.
If you have ever lived in New York City or any other major city like it you would understand the reason things take so long. There's not any one item you can point your finger at but there are many contribute factors. These factors range from political climate, unions, traffic, etc. Each 1 adds its own set of problems to the equation.

Whereabouts might that town be?  Most unlikely to be in the NorthEast US.
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: CVILLE 7111 on August 21, 2019, 10:51:54 AM
^^^^^ That is being talked about.

New quarters for Rescue 1 and/or the return of 2 Engine?
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: Bulldog on August 21, 2019, 11:02:23 AM

Whereabouts might that town be?  Most unlikely to be in the NorthEast US.
Obviously it's prevalent in the Northeast but it's certainly not restricted to that area. It extends down the entire East Coast and thru the Midwest and of course the Pacific Coast have their own problems getting things done quickly because of all the environmental regulations projects have to jump thru!
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: baileyjeff on August 21, 2019, 12:54:58 PM
It's going to take something to happen to get the Hudson yards firehouse.
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: Maxima2012 on August 21, 2019, 06:26:44 PM
Its very sad that it's been 3yrs + since they broke ground for the
new Rescue 2 quarters.  My town broke ground for a new 3 bay two
story fire station #9  in early November 2018. On target to be completed
Dec 2019. Opened by end of Jan 2020.
If you have ever lived in New York City or any other major city like it you would understand the reason things take so long. There's not any one item you can point your finger at but there are many contribute factors. These factors range from political climate, unions, traffic, etc. Each 1 adds its own set of problems to the equation.

Whereabouts might that town be?  Most unlikely to be in the NorthEast US.

Cary, North Carolina- I understand there are many possible delays. I also lived in New York(Bronx and Long Island for 44+ yrs). But I would think once they break ground
they should have all enviromental and any other approvals in place etc. Yes it New York so I guess I shouldn't expect much better.
Title: Re: FDNY NEW Firehouses and EMS Stations
Post by: fdhistorian on August 21, 2019, 10:32:16 PM
Its very sad that it's been 3yrs + since they broke ground for the
new Rescue 2 quarters.  My town broke ground for a new 3 bay two
story fire station #9  in early November 2018. On target to be completed
Dec 2019. Opened by end of Jan 2020.
If you have ever lived in New York City or any other major city like it you would understand the reason things take so long. There's not any one item you can point your finger at but there are many contribute factors. These factors range from political climate, unions, traffic, etc. Each 1 adds its own set of problems to the equation.

Whereabouts might that town be?  Most unlikely to be in the NorthEast US.

Cary, North Carolina- I understand there are many possible delays. I also lived in New York(Bronx and Long Island for 44+ yrs). But I would think once they break ground
they should have all enviromental and any other approvals in place etc. Yes it New York so I guess I shouldn't expect much better.

It is interesting to compare.  There are many factors which can complicate a construction project, beyond political, labor and regulatory issues.

The site:

Is it large compared to the building or tight – that will affect the ability to place equipment and materials.
Did the site need clearing or did a previous building need to be demolished?
Did utilities have to be brought in?
Is the site on a corner of wide streets or mid-block on a narrow one-way street?

The building:

Is the building on a slab, or pilings, or does it have a basement?  Pitched roof or flat roof?
Is it a simple use – storage? or multi-use – storage and dormitory?  or complex use – storage, dormitory, assembly, office, and training facilities?
Is the architecture simple, straight lines and rectangles, or complex with oblique angles, terraces, setbacks, and atria?
Is it sprinklered?

Structural:

Snow loads, wind loads, cold winters, hot summers, frost line, solar panels, antenna towers?
Is it a fueling station?
Code and zoning requirements and restrictions?
Energy conservation rules?
Does construction get halted by cold weather?

Two buildings could start out as similar and then turn out to be very different when the many variables are considered.