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Thank you for this brother. This is my grandfather and I was very fortunate to be searching something about his scaling ladder rescue and this popped up. The FDNY was his livelihood. I swear the day I got on the job, he was prouder than the day his own son, my uncle Gary Bulger ret. L18 got...

153 may not be second due here now. Not 100% sure.

Kinda weird that 172 and 109 don’t get on that because of relocaters

I understand that. But whether or not the first due engine was there or not, this was going to be a multiple alarm fire either way. 243 was 30 seconds behind the would be arrival of 330. *Edit* My point being is that Dan’s comment is a direct slap in the face of the first due companie’s...

I’m still trying to understand where you heard/why you thought there were a lot of newly promoted officers and an ABC first due at this job? Because that is beyond false. What went wrong was the extremely heavy fire load upon arrival and the delayed call for 911.

An ABC was not first due. The 42 Chief was an assigned Chief.

I agree. But divisions don’t paint the whole picture. L148 and L172 have been very busy/consistent and catch a lot of their work in the 15th division cause they border it yet are Div 11 and Div 8 companies. The 15th is also much larger than the 8th and 11th. Same can be said though about L147...

172 again!

Thank you! Figured it’s the engines that determine the second rather than the trucks

Curious as to what trucks relocated too considering so many south Brooklyn companies unable to relocate due to old rigs

How many extra E&T can one request before having to make it a second?

I believe they would have been extra truck if not for renovations

I believe Grogan clarified earlier that 105 was 10-8 and in the area putting them ahead of 114 due to the relocation

Appreciate the insight. Thank you

I don’t believe anyone is arguing for slower response times. But getting tickles to turn out for relocates before a box is even dumped or going 10-8 well before you’re even remotely where you’re supposed to be, is what companies have the issue with.

Some companies only get relocated to specific companies and no matter how fast the turn out, it isn’t going to get them into the job if it’s a quick Extra E&T. Tillers and 95fters, for example.