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Address: 3136 Hull Ave. 204th to 205th St. 3 story 25 X 40 wood frame
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1/23/09- 2nd Alarm Box 3532
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E-81 has always been 3rd or 4th due on the north side of mosholu parkway in this area, on this particular job E-79 was out at the rock and E-81 was assigned 3rd due and actually arrived 2nd due at this fire. E-48 was in the far southern area of their area when box was sent out. Also the new system as stated by 3511 is not being used in the Bronx it is on Hold.
I meant really traditional (as in old)
3rd alarm at Grand Union, 204th St at Hull Avenue, circa 1960:
79 62 48 37 32 Bn 15
88 75 46 38 Bn 19 D7 E42-79, E71-48, L51-32
38 81 43 33 R3 E90-62
Card assignment circa 1920, then Box 2-679, Hull Ave at 204 St
79 48 62 37 38 Bn 18
88 75 63 33 Bn 15
46 42 81 39 Bn 17 D7 E93-42
L32 still at E50
CFC 62 ladder section stays home to cover
Long before L56, R3
Bn 18 at E48
D7 at E71
3rd alarm at Grand Union, 204th St at Hull Avenue, circa 1960:
79 62 48 37 32 Bn 15
88 75 46 38 Bn 19 D7 E42-79, E71-48, L51-32
38 81 43 33 R3 E90-62
Card assignment circa 1920, then Box 2-679, Hull Ave at 204 St
79 48 62 37 38 Bn 18
88 75 63 33 Bn 15
46 42 81 39 Bn 17 D7 E93-42
L32 still at E50
CFC 62 ladder section stays home to cover
Long before L56, R3
Bn 18 at E48
D7 at E71
Mileage:
E75 2.12 miles via Morris Ave, east on Fordham Rd, North on Webster to 204th st
2.46 miles via Concourse to 200th St, east to Bainbridge, north to 204th St
E81 2.62 miles via Bailey, east on Van Cortland Park S, Mosholu Pkwy to Bainbridge, to 204th St
E88 2.00 miles via Third Ave, north on Webster to 204th St
E75 2.12 miles via Morris Ave, east on Fordham Rd, North on Webster to 204th st
2.46 miles via Concourse to 200th St, east to Bainbridge, north to 204th St
E81 2.62 miles via Bailey, east on Van Cortland Park S, Mosholu Pkwy to Bainbridge, to 204th St
E88 2.00 miles via Third Ave, north on Webster to 204th St
Not to get into a debate here but E-81 responded up and around reservoir not via the route you seem to think we used, not sure of the mileage but going north on bailey then east up hill on vancortlandt pk south to reach mosholu is longer than using sedgwick around reservoir, also using mosholu parkway quickens response.
This is just an interesting discussion as to how companies are assigned.
You are correct, using Sedgewick Ave is shorter (2.4. miles vs 2.6) but is considered longer in time due to the turns, narrower streets, and the winding around.
And that route is still longer than 88 and 75. The claim that "no way" 88 can get in there before 81 is just not true. 88 has virtually a straight run with the only choke point at Fordham and Webster. That's why they were traditionally assigned as so. Ditto 75 up the Concourse.
The claim was also made that 81 "always" responded to this area 4th due and that is simply not the case. In fact, until the War years 81 was a third alarm company to most of Norwood.
You are correct, using Sedgewick Ave is shorter (2.4. miles vs 2.6) but is considered longer in time due to the turns, narrower streets, and the winding around.
And that route is still longer than 88 and 75. The claim that "no way" 88 can get in there before 81 is just not true. 88 has virtually a straight run with the only choke point at Fordham and Webster. That's why they were traditionally assigned as so. Ditto 75 up the Concourse.
The claim was also made that 81 "always" responded to this area 4th due and that is simply not the case. In fact, until the War years 81 was a third alarm company to most of Norwood.
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johnd248 said:Sounds like analysis paralysis to me.
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