12/12/24 Staten Island 10-75 Box 720

[Signal73]

Fire Location: 137 Heberton Ave

Fire 2nd floor into the hallway of a 3 story MD 50 X 80 H Type

B-22 All Hands on arrival. People out the windows and on the fire escape

B-22 10-70

E-157,156,163,158,166,282 Act. 163s/c
L-80,79,83(Fast),86,81 Act. 80s/c
B-22,21
R-5
Sq-8
D-8
Rac-5
E-159 w/ Sat. 5

B-22 (4) 10-45 No Codes. 2 removed via TL, 2 from fire escape

 

[8060rock]

Fire Location: 137 Heberton Ave

Fire 2nd floor into the hallway of a 3 story MD 50 X 80 H Type

B-22 All Hands on arrival. People out the windows and on the fire escape

B-22 10-70

E-157,156,163,158,166
L-80,79,83(Fast),86
B-22,21
R-5
Sq-8
D-8
Rac-5
E-159 w/ Sat. 5

B-22 (4) 10-45 No Codes. 2 removed via TL, 2 from fire escape

L80 gave 10-75

E163 WRU

B22: 2 L/S, 1 L/O

D8: slight extension to adjoining apt. - s/c extra E/T (E282 act. E163 & L81 act. L80)

D8: all (4) 10-45s are RMA

D8: UC (duration 1 hr. 10 min)

B42 act. B21
B32 act. B22
E152 act. E166
L109 act. L79
E254 act. S8
L132 act. L83
E279 act. E156
E205 act. E157
E282 act. E163
L81 act. L80

 

[EnginePete]

May have been mentioned before but…. The other boroughs generally have good hydrants but parts of Staten Island it’s a real issue and over the years I’ve heard a few 10-70s, have the department ever considered a tanker for Staten Island?

 

[raybrag]

Funny you should ask . . . . .

Water Tender(s)

The other day, Mack included this photo of a Ward LaFrance tanker (sorry, west coast folks; it had a TANK on it and didn't TEND anything). I wasn't aware that FDNY ever had anything like this (tanker/tender), but in the 50's it probably made sense on Staten Island. Does anyone know how many...

www.nycfire.net

 

[E812]

May have been mentioned before but…. The other boroughs generally have good hydrants but parts of Staten Island it’s a real issue and over the years I’ve heard a few 10-70s, have the department ever considered a tanker for Staten Island?

funny you should ask that question but isn't that the reason why the satellite is assigned to respond on all hands transmission in staten island?

 

[jlab]

FDNY makes fire escape rescue in blaze at Staten Island apartment building

The blaze broke out a complex on Heberton Avenue in Port Richmond.

www.silive.com

 

[EnginePete]

FDNY makes fire escape rescue in blaze at Staten Island apartment building

The blaze broke out a complex on Heberton Avenue in Port Richmond.

www.silive.com

Thanks raybrag, very interesting.

I know the Satellite responds on the 10-75, and im a great fan of the Satellite but they take time to set up. A tanker is instant, I worked in a department that for years wouldn’t use them, when we eventually got them there was rarely a week when they didn’t turn out! They got assigned to loads of first due boxes, made a real difference

 

[jlab]

Thanks raybrag, very interesting.

I know the Satellite responds on the 10-75, and im a great fan of the Satellite but they take time to set up. A tanker is instant, I worked in a department that for years wouldn’t use them, when we eventually got them there was rarely a week when they didn’t turn out! They got assigned to loads of first due boxes, made a real difference

Interesting idea. An alternative to tankers might be bigger water tanks like 750 or 1,000 gallons. Unfortunately water takes up alot of space and weighs quite a bit. Might need double rear axels and sacrifice the low rear hose bed. 500 gallons is probably the best that can be done within the current apparatus configurations.

 

[jjooee]

May have been mentioned before but…. The other boroughs generally have good hydrants but parts of Staten Island it’s a real issue and over the years I’ve heard a few 10-70s, have the department ever considered a tanker for Staten Island?

20-30 years ago, yes. Now the hydrant pressure on SI is much higher than the rest of the city.

 

[Darrell]

20-30 years ago, yes. Now the hydrant pressure on SI is much higher than the rest of the city.

May have been mentioned before but…. The other boroughs generally have good hydrants but parts of Staten Island it’s a real issue and over the years I’ve heard a few 10-70s, have the department ever considered a tanker for Staten Island?

Yes, most of the 10-70's, if not all. We're because of how grossly undersized the mains we're. (I believe somewhere 6-8 inches), so the Department had put a Sat on 10-75's borough wide, (might be on the AH), same thing with boxes in Riverdale, City Island, Edgewater, and some areas of Brooklyn. In Queens 3 go on Box 269 and 37 for obvious reasons.

 

[manlt]

Water pressure on SI is good. There is still an issue with smaller mains in older neighborhoods. Plenty of 6" & 8" mains and they are also fed from only one direction. Inital water is not an issue, but when multiple lines operating, water can start becoming an issue.

 

[jlab]

Funny you should ask . . . . .

Water Tender(s)

The other day, Mack included this photo of a Ward LaFrance tanker (sorry, west coast folks; it had a TANK on it and didn't TEND anything). I wasn't aware that FDNY ever had anything like this (tanker/tender), but in the 50's it probably made sense on Staten Island. Does anyone know how many...

www.nycfire.net

Any/idea of the size of the water tank ? Looks like its about 1,000 gallons.

 

[Bdubbs]

May have been mentioned before but…. The other boroughs generally have good hydrants but parts of Staten Island it’s a real issue and over the years I’ve heard a few 10-70s, have the department ever considered a tanker for Staten Island?

Every engine has a water tank it’s called a booster. Any one room or even two room fires can be knocked down on booster water until a positive water source from a hydrant is established. Obviously if it’s a fully involved pd that wouldn’t be ideal . But an outside knock down can prevent extension to exposures with booster!