12/15/2017 Staten Island 2nd Alarm Box 2257

[firephish]

Address: 129 New Dorp Plaza - between Ross and Beach Avenue

Fire throughout a 3 story 30x50 PD.

Just before this box, there was a reported fire at 135 South Railroad Street - Box 4441 and 129 North Railroad Avenue  - Box 1066

2215 - E-165 - 10-75 the box. 129 North Railroad. Fire in the basement.

(Staten Island Transmitted the 10-75 for box 1066 - 129 North Railroad Avenue)**

TL-85 FAST

2218 - Bn. 21 - What unit gave the 10-75? We are at the address 129 North Railroad and there is nothing here.

2220 - E-165 - The address is 129 New Dorp Plaza.

2221 - E-165 - Do I have any other units coming?

(SI transmitted the correct box.)

2227 - L-82 - Be advised that Ladder 85 is operating; they are not the FAST Truck.

TL-87 FAST

2228 - Bn. 23 - All Hands

2230 - Bn. 23 - 2nd Alarm

2242 - Div. 8 - We have fire on all floors. 3 L/S/O. Searches in progress, trucks opening up.

Maybe:
E-165, 159, 162, 160
L-85, 82, 81, 87F
B-23, 21
S-1
R-5
D-8
RAC-5
E-152 w/ Sat. 5

2nd Alarm Maybe:
E-161, 167, 163, 153
L-83
B-22 FF, 33 RUL, 48 Safety
SB, RB, FC, FCB, Tac 2
Car 3A

Relocators:
E-243 act. E-160
B-41 act. B-21
B-42 act. B-23

** North Railroad Avenue turns into New Dorp Plaza 2 blocks away from this fire.

 

[FDNYSTATENISLAND]

Just saw BC7 going back BK bound from Staten Island on the Verrazzano Bridge and then E241 the same way @ 2:10AM

New Dorp Plaza... there was a 2nd alarm a few houses down about ~7 years ago now 

 

[FDNYSTATENISLAND]

Pics are from Citizen App:

 

[mack]

G-man question:. Tom, back in the 60s and 70s, maybe the 80s, I believe the 3 SI battalions were never all assigned to any SI multiple.  I recall you got 1 BC on the box and a second with Division 8 when the box was "transmitted" or on the "all hands" signal or 2nd alarm.  Additional BCs came from other Boris, by ferry before bridge was built.  The 3rd SI BC was left available by cover SI for other incidents.  I believe the rationale was you would always have 1 SI chief available for another SI working fire.

 

[FDNYSTATENISLAND]

Heard tonight that this job was a rough one, got hairy for a little bit.

 

[chubzilla]

The policy of not assigning all 3 SI BC's to a multiple ended about 10-12 years ago. The time it took for Brooklyn BC's to arrive coupled with the handful amount of times there are multiple jobs going on led to the change. At the time the chiefs out here felt with the young job post 9-11 and young officers the benefits of having the additional chief on a box 20-30 minutes sooner far outweighed any potential negative impact.

 

[NYCFireAudio]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LNcwKScsvU&feature=youtu.be

 

[FDNYSTATENISLAND]

Thank you for posting the audio. Around 6:30-6:50 you can hear a member state that he had to jump out the front window as conditions deteriorated. Hope all injured members are ok. Also TL86 was onscene somewhere.