3/20/2017 Manhattan All Hands Box 1410

[firephish]

Address: 182 St. Nicholas Avenue - between West 119 & West 120 Street

Fire on the 3rd floor of a 7 story 50x100 MD.

1547 - Bn. 12 - Based on radio transmissions, transmit the 10-75.

TL-23 FAST

1552 - Bn. 12 - All Hands - 1 L/S/O, searches underway.

1554 - Bn. 12 - Fire Apt. 3D. Searches will be delayed in the fire apartment due to Collyer's Mansion conditions. Primaries are negative on the floor above.

1602 - Div. 3 - 2 L/S, 1 L/O, fire is knocked down, primaries are negative in the fire apartment. DWH

1608 - Div. 3 - Transmit a 10-41 code 1. PWH - Duration 29 minutes.

1615 - Div. 3 - Secondaries are underway. Requesting an Engine (E-22) for watch line. Under Control - Duration 35 minutes.

Maybe:
E-37, 58, 59, 35, 22 s/c
L-40, 26, 23F
B-12, 11
S-41
R-1
D-3
RAC-1

 

[guitarman314]

Address: 182 St. Nicholas Avenue - between West 119 & West 120 Street

Fire on the 3rd floor of a 7 story 50x100 MD.

1547 - Bn. 12 - Based on radio transmissions, transmit the 10-75.

TL-23 FAST

1552 - Bn. 12 - All Hands - 1 L/S/O, searches underway.

1554 - Bn. 12 - Fire Apt. 3D. Searches will be delayed in the fire apartment due to Collyer's Mansion conditions. Primaries are negative on the floor above.

1602 - Div. 3 - 2 L/S, 1 L/O, fire is knocked down, primaries are negative in the fire apartment. DWH

1608 - Div. 3 - Transmit a 10-41 code 1. PWH - Duration 29 minutes.

1615 - Div. 3 - Secondaries are underway. Requesting an Engine (E-22) for watch line. Under Control - Duration 35 minutes.

Maybe:
E-37, 58, 59, 35, 22 s/c
L-40, 26, 23F
B-12, 11
S-41
R-1
D-3
RAC-1

  Where's E47 ???

 

[1261Truckie]

And L-30?

 

[JOR176]

If all available.

37-58-47-59    40-26    30

 

[enginecap]

Watch line 30 min into the fire?

 

[chiefblackcloud]

Watch line 30 min into the fire?

The New FDNY.

 

[auxlteng225]

Odd yes, different yes. but none of us were on scene when the chief made the decision. One rational just might be that the place was a real s++t house mess and rather than hold one engine and one or two trucks to get to the bottom of the pile the chief opted to go to a single engine watch line. Other activity in the area could have also been a factor in getting companies back in service. Short of making a telephone call to the chief I doubt if we will ever really know. Yes EngCap, in my seventy five years ( 75 ) of being with, working with and closely following the department there shore has been a lot of changes, and some, darned hard to understand.

 

[enginecap]

Where I come from the first due truck would still be doing that work on fire floor 30 min into the fire.  Unless the times are all messed up , there is no explanation.  Little embarrassing actually

 

[EdMc]

Another could be reason is when the Fire Department responds and stretches a line into the house or apartment, technically, the FD has a kind of ownership of that property.  As long as a charged line is in that house or apartment that ownership remains.  Once the line is removed the occupants can lock the door and deny further entry.  If it was a suspicious fire and the Fire Marshalls where delayed, instead of keeping those companies there the Chief may have opted to bring in a fresh company just to watch that line.