8000gpm industrial pumper

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Would this pumper only go out to huge fires? Doesn't make sense to send it to anything below a 5th alarm.
 
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If it was to be used to supply master streams on either a satellite monitor or, more commonly a towerladder, it easily could be assigned before a 5-5.  Towerladder streams are deployed much earlier in an incident. 
 

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Since all of the new Engine Companies have 2000 GPM pumps it certainly doesn't sound like it would be a lot of need for this. Since the satellites are the only company for carry LDH they certainly would have to respond with his unit. I wonder if possibly they would even consider another tender type vehicle to go with this pumper.

I wonder if it's just an idea they are kicking around and they are trying to get pricing for such a unit.
 

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Ferrara can build 6000-8000 GPM pumpers:

    https://www.fireapparatusmagazine.com/articles/2015/03/ferrara-builds-6-000-gpm-industrial-fire-apparatus.html
 

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Nasibova said:
do you have facebook ?    https://www.facebook.com/groups/NewYorkFireTrucks/?fref=nf
That doesn't really prove that FDNY is going to get one, it's just somebody else's statement without any factual information to back it up. Until we see a copy of a specification or better yet a purchase order it's just a rumor.
 
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Bulldog said:
Nasibova said:
do you have facebook ?    https://www.facebook.com/groups/NewYorkFireTrucks/?fref=nf
That doesn't really prove that FDNY is going to get one, it's just somebody else's statement without any factual information to back it up. Until we see a copy of a specification or better yet a purchase order it's just a rumor.

Actually. It was guitarmans post on Facebook after going to the fire bell clubs annual shops visit, and the news was part of the director of the shops presentation to those in attendance.
 
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WAG:  It'll be a Ferrara Industrial on an Ultra chassis, with a stainless steel US Fire High Velocity Pump (HVP).

Now:  watch the trolls. 8) ::) :eek: :p

And:  If you don't know what WAG means, ask anybody who has served in the military.  ;)
 

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jks19714 said:
I believe that Pierce Manufacturing also builds industrial pumpers.
Yes, they certainly do, here's the page for them: https://www.piercemfg.com/high-flow-industrial-apparatus
However, in the past Pierce has not bid on any FDNY equipment for many reasons, the biggest being the warranty requirements. The only exception was Rescue 2 but that's a different issue and it wasn't really bid.

Brooklynalex32 said:
Pierce ??
I'm not sure why you have an opinion, many apartments across the US swear by Pierce apparatus and have great success using it.
 
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The reason why I have an opinion is that a have a friend who has been working on pierce apparatus for about 8 years and I hear first-hand the many problems they have with it,,,that is why I have an opinion thanks
 
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Brooklynalex32 said:
Pierce ??

Here in Fairfax County, most of our frontlines and reserves are all Pierce. We recently ordered a few E-Ones. The Pierce rigs break down a lot but we're still keeping them. Our tillers are always out of service. Although the E-Ones also go out of service a lot. We used to be all E-One back 20 or so years ago, then we made the switch to Pierce. Now it seems everyone is going back, it's an endless cycle. Many jurisdictions bought E-Ones. Then their quality went down due to the number of orders. Everyone jumped to Pierce and the same thing is happening again.


I love the way the Pierces are spec'd though. I also don't want to dog on them too much. They're great fire trucks.
 
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