A New Super Pumper?

[Bulldog]

Just saw this promotion from Ferrara: Inundator Super Pumper.  They are introducing it at Interschutz 2015 this week.  It certainly has some pretty remarkable specifications!  I'm not sure how big the market for it in the fire service is but I'm sure there will be some applications for it in the industrial environment, especially in chemical plants and refineries.  With its 1000 gallon foam tank it would sure be well-suited for that.

 

[raybrag]

I may be nuts, but I think a rig like that might have been useful at the 7-Alarm incident in Brooklyn this past January . . . the one where they had Marines 1, 6 & 9 using their large caliber water cannons for several days.  (http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,35290.0.html). But would it be worth the money?????  How often would it be used?????

 

[68jk09]

I think it would not be worth it price wise for the oft used incident's requiring it.....another factor is the danger zone when a stream that large is blowing pieces of bldg & contents around....it may go out quicker but could be more dangerous than several smaller streams over more time....JMO.

 

[Bulldog]

I may be nuts, but I think a rig like that might have been useful at the 7-Alarm incident in Brooklyn this past January . . . the one where they had Marines 1, 6 & 9 using their large caliber water cannons for several days.  (http://nycfire.net/forums/index.php/topic,35290.0.html). But would it be worth the money?????  How often would it be used?????

That's certainly one incident that came to mind when I read about the truck.  Also the ability to apply a large volume of foam at a great distance could be useful in certain circumstances.  It obviously would be a special rig and not in front line service as was the original super pumper.  It would be interesting to see what the actual cost of it is.

 

[JohnnyBopp]

Who cares.  Did no one see the complexity of what was required to bring it enough water to perform the way it was?  The limitations of this vehicle make it all but completely absurd. 

 

[Bulldog]

Who cares.  Did no one see the complexity of what was required to bring it enough water to perform the way it was?  The limitations of this vehicle make it all but completely absurd.

The original super pumper was the same way, it required multiple inlets from multiple sources in most cases to provided sufficient water to operate.  Anything that is flowing that much water was acceptable fire boat is going to require multiple sources to obtain sufficient water supply.

 

[BCR]

They have the satellites if they need big water, that thing would need marine 1 or 9 maybe both to adequately supply it and even then I don't see the department allowing it to be used anywhere near people or other buildings because of collateral damage, only place I can see it being safe was at a pier fire or large building right on the water, but there would be no need with the boats and satellites. It would be interesting to see it operate in Staten Island at one of the real big brush fires with the reach it has but I don't know if you would be able to establish an adequate water source and if you could by the time you got it all set up the fire would probably be down the block. I'm wondering its target market, I'm assuming someone of refinery over seas. I'm assuming overseas because on the side of it, it has LPM (liters per minute)

 

[Bulldog]

I'm wondering its target market, I'm assuming someone of refinery over seas. I'm assuming overseas because on the side of it, it has LPM (liters per minute)

I'm sure the rating in LPM was on that rate because it's being introduced at a show in Germany!  If you read the sale of information from Ferrara it's in conventional GPM units.  Actually, most of the fire apparatus manufactures make large-volume engines like this for use in industrial facilities and tank farms.  I forget who but I read an article not too long ago about an elevated platform that could flow 5000 GPM that was designed for industrial applications.  Obviously the market for units like this is much smaller than that for conventional engines but it's still relatively significant.

 

[4 truck]

It's a Ferrara not gonna hold up

 

[JohnnyBopp]

Who cares.  Did no one see the complexity of what was required to bring it enough water to perform the way it was?  The limitations of this vehicle make it all but completely absurd.

The original super pumper was the same way, it required multiple inlets from multiple sources in most cases to provided sufficient water to operate.  Anything that is flowing that much water was acceptable fire boat is going to require multiple sources to obtain sufficient water supply.

Right, I'm aware that it had the same needs.  Originally the Satellite System would have brought it LDH from multiple water mains.  However, clearly the Super Pumper wasn't highly thought of...seeing as it was never replaced.  It's just too complex to be practical.  With the three full-time Marine Co's, there is over 100,000gpm of pumping capacity and hose to get it pretty far inland if needed. 

We're all set, I think.

Oh, and like 4 Truck said....it's  Ferrara and they make giant Pieces of Shyte.