Boston, MA- 5th Alarm Box 2931 09-10-14

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423 Lagrange St X Centre St (West Roxbury)

Former Armstrong Labs building

1935hrs- Co's with smoke showing from a 2-story commercial.

1943hrs- CMD rpts smoke from a 2-story 250X50 frame. Exterior operations only.

1944hrs- 2nd Alarm

1947hrs- East Boston- ACW for Box 6167 fire in a 3-story wood frame.

1953hrs- 3rd Alarm

2001hrs- 4th Alarm

2030hrs- 5th Alarm. PAR being conducted.

2106hrs- Setting up a collapse zone
 
Probably:

Box 2391:

E30, E55, E53, E28(R.I.T.)
L25, L16, L28(R.I.T.), TL10
D12, D9(R.I.T.), H1(Safety)
R2
RU

2-2391(2nd Alarm):

E48, E49, E52
L29
D8, D7(Act.)
C7(DC-Division 2)
SU
ASU

3-2391(3rd Alarm):

E42, E16
L23
TCU

4-2391(4th Alarm):

E24, E37
 
Seems like Boston gets their fair share of multiples, obviously because they are a large city. Just seems like they have a big multiple a lot.
 
FDNYSTATENISLAND said:
Seems like Boston gets their fair share of multiples, obviously because they are a large city. Just seems like they have a big multiple a lot.
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A number of years ago, Boston/Metro Fire went from a 5th Alarm run card system to a 9th Alarm run card system. Basically, as far as the number of apparatus and personnel assigned, a 4th Alarm in Boston is the equivalent of a 2nd Alarm w/a couple of extra engines and trucks in New York. Thus, when they do have multiples in Boston, they're often 3rd/4th Alarms and upwards, where in New York, they would be 2nd Alarms of less.

After the 3rd Alarm in Boston, each alarm level only gets 2 Engines, and every other alarm level after that gets 2 Engines and a Truck, whereas in New York, from the initial Box onward, each alarm level gets 4 & 2.
 
BFD does have a 9 alarm system which does allow more response flexibility without using special calls.  It is hard to compare responding numbers of units per alarm due to organizational and operational differences (example - BFD does not have squads; BFD uses combined engine/truck/chief RIT teams). A Boston 4th alarm is not equivalent to an FDNY 2nd or less.  Probably closer to a NYC 3rd but hard to compare different cities.     
 
mack said:
BFD does have a 9 alarm system which does allow more response flexibility without using special calls.  It is hard to compare responding numbers of units per alarm due to organizational and operational differences (example - BFD does not have squads; BFD uses combined engine/truck/chief RIT teams). A Boston 4th alarm is not equivalent to an FDNY 2nd or less.  Probably closer to a NYC 3rd but hard to compare different cities.   
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Thank you mack, I stand corrected.
 
Spent the last three days in Boston.  Was supposed to be there till Friday.  Decided to come home today.  Even drove by E-55 about 1100 am today.  What kind of luck is that????? >:(
 
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