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Feb 26, 2019
Absolutely sickening listening to NYPD Citywide. Completely overwhelmed with no help in sight. People engaging police with no fear or regard.


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Jan 12, 2013
Absolutely sickening listening to NYPD Citywide. Completely overwhelmed with no help in sight. People engaging police with no fear or regard.
I agree with you 100% but it is because they get no punishment for rioting it is a dison and a ticket what they need to do is round them up and charge them all with Felonies!


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May 6, 2010
In the last 96 hours..

-A Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officer was shot in the back of the head while struggling with a rioter
-An active shooter opened fire on law enforcement at a Las Vegas courthouse
-4 St. Louis Police Officers were shot by an active shooter
-A New York Police Officer was struck by a vehicle
-3 Buffalo law enforcement officers were struck by a vehicle in front of the police station
-3 Davenport law enforcement officers were ambushed and 1 was shot
-132 officers were injured in Chicago during a riot
-9 Pittsburg officers were injured by objects during a riot
-Several officers in Rhode Island were injured during riots
-An active shooter opened fire at the Oakland Police Department
-2 officers were struck in the head with projectiles in Santa Ana
-2 Richland officers were shot in Virginia
-1 officer was struck in the head by a brick in Albany
-4 Prince William County Police Officers sustained head injuries from projectiles
-7 officers were injured in Sacramento
-Several officers were shot at and injured in Lynchburg
-Several Champaign Police Officers were injured
-3 Oak Law Police Officers were injured
-21 officers were injured in Salt Lake City
-At least 50 Secret Service Agents were injured by Molotov cocktails in Washington
-3 Denver Police Officers were ran over by a vehicle
-33 New York Police Officers were injured during riots
-6 Athens Police Officers injured during a protest
-2 Capitol Police Officers were injured during a riot in Harrisburg
-12 Las Vegas Metropolitan Police Officers were injured during riots
-21 Minneapolis law enforcement officers injured in riots
-1 Federal Protective Services Officer was shot and killed.
- 1 Atlanta Police Motorman was run down and fighting for his life...
-1 PREGNANT APD Sgt working the desk was shot at by multiple rioters missing her head by inches

6/02/2020 08:16:00 PM........Any count on FDNY ?


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Jun 22, 2007
I have NOT heard any television channels (ABC, NBC, CBS) report an over all list of injured police officers like the list above. Some being "serious injuries". Why NOT ?

This morning on a live NBC News interview, the NYPD Chief/Commissioner (?) stated that he believes "outside individuals" have encouraged this violence to go on.

It is time to end this destruction of our cities. As the Commissioner himself said; "Not One Police Officer Condones What That Officer Did". Yet we see from the previous post that Police Officers throughout Our Country have been injured - some injuries serious.

In addition to this, it has been reported by the NYPD Commissioner that NYs Gov Coumo (?) has apologized to the members of the NYPD for saying the NYPD did NOT do their job in enforcing the law. It is NOT what he meant.

As an "outsider" I know that the members of the NYPD get NO BACKING from their Mayor of the City of New York. Many of us recall not too long ago when NYPD Officers were the targets of water attacks from upper floors or rooftops in some parts of the city.

For my friends, and all the citizens of New York City, you have had to deal with some of the most difficult months that many of us can remember. From a killer disease to some of the worst violence in our country.

I have often joked on here about living at the Ole' Homestead. But I can NOT at all relate to the very difficult days that you have been through.


Apr 16, 2008
I saw where the governor of Minnesota said that they were charging an individual from out-of-state with "Domestic Terrorism"! Sounds like a great idea to me.


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Aug 8, 2009
A list of the buildings damaged, looted in Minneapolis and St. Paul
The list will be updated as more reports come in.
Adam UrenUpdated:Jun 2, 2020Original:Jun 1, 2020

Cub foods looted

Andy Svenson
The civil unrest in Minneapolis and St. Paul has left a trail of burned out buildings, smashed windows, and looted stores across the Twin Cities.
Here are the reports of damage or looting that have come in since Wednesday evening. This story will be updated as more reports come in.
We've also created a list of fundraisers for damaged businesses. See here.
  1. In Minneapolis
  2. In St. Paul
  3. In Twin Cities suburbs
In Minneapolis
– Moto convenience store with fuel, Hiawatha and 33rd: Property damage and looted.
– Speedway at Hennepin and 25th: Property and fire damage.
– Schubert & Hoey Outdoor Advertising on 26th and 28th: Destroyed by fire.
– Scooterville 17th Avenue South: Property damage.
– Pie and Mighty 35th and Chicago: Property damage.
– Cal Surf on Lake Street: Property damage.
– USPS Post Office Minnehaha and Lake: Destroyed by fire.
– Mailbox Solutions Plus 44th Ave N. and Penn: Destroyed by fire.
– Cellphone shop 44th Ave N. and Penn: Destroyed by fire.
– Tom's Barbershop 44th Ave. N. and Penn: Fire damage.
– Knights Chamber Calhoun Square: Property damage, looting, water damage.
– ChicagoLake Dental: Extensive fire damage.
– Mama Safia East Lake Street: Fire damage.
– Bismallah Grocery & Coffee Chicago Avenue: Fire damage and looting.
– Quruxlow Restaurant East Lake Street: Property damage.
– Safari Beauty 405 E Lake St: Property damage.
– Speedway 51st and 34th: Fire damage.
– Basilica of Saint Mary Minneapolis: Property damage.
– Nepp & Hackert Law Firm West Lake Street: Property damage.
– Pharmacy at In Town on Lake Building: Property damage.
– Blue Tree Music Education 23rd and 35th: Property damage; glass door smashed
– Drew’s Popcorn 23rd and 35th: Property damage; glass door smashed.
– Domino's on 26th Ave So and E 28th Street: Destroyed by fire.
– Popeyes Chicken Chicago Avenue: Destroyed by Fire.
– Boost Mobile East Lake Street: Destroyed by fire.
– Dream Haven Comics: 38th St and 23rd Ave: Looting, property damage.
– Family Dollar, 3110 Penn Ave N: Extensive damage
– Union Liquor, 3219 Penn Ave N: Extensive damage
– Broadway Liquor Outlet: Extensive Damage
– All Washed Up Laundromat, 3008 Penn Ave: Damage
– Penn Gas Stop, 2606 Penn Ave N: Extensive damage, Looting
– Aldi Grocery, Penn Ave N: Damage
– Family Dollar, 505 W Broadway: Looting
– Neighbors One Stop Inc. Gas station, 3759 Penn Ave N: Fire
– North End Hardware, Penn Ave N: Property damage
– Walgreens St Louis Park: Looting
– Nokomis Shoe Shop at 4950 34th Ave: Property damage.
– Sabri Commons at East Lake Street: Looting.
– International Bazaar at East Lake Street: Looting.
– 315 East Lake Street: Fire damage, looting.
– Yusuf Center East Lake Street: Looting.
– Plaza Mexico East Lake Street: Looting.
– El Nuevo Miramar East Lake Street: Looting.
– Extreme Noise Records Lake Street: Property damage.
– Piff Streetwear Como Avenue: Property damage and looting.
– Como Tap Como Avenue: Property damage and looting.
– Chris Vale Cycles 27th Avenue: Property damage.
– Dollar Tree Nicollet Avenue: Property damage.
– Kmart Nicollet: Property damage, looting.
– Office Depot Nicollet: Property damage, looting, flooding.
– Longfellow/Seward Healthy Seniors at US Bank building on Lake: Property damage and looting.
– Atlas Staffing: 1st Ave and Lake: Destroyed by fire.
– Uncle Hugo's/Uncle Edgar's 28th and Chicago: Destroyed by fire.
– Holiday Gas Station 46th and Hiawatha: Extensive fire damage.
– Walgreens 46th and Hiawatha: Property damage and looting.
– Kitchen Window Uptown: Extensive property damage, looting.
– Popeyes Lake: Property damage.
– Hooks Fish and Chicken West Lake: Property damage.
– Metro PCS West Lake: Property damage.
– Pawn Shop West Lake: Property damage.
– Grand Managament Inc. Lyndale: Property Damage.
– Kyle's Market W 36th Street: Property damage.
– Pearl Vision Nicollet: Property damage.
– Galactic Pizza: Property damage.
– Marathon Lyndale and 28th: Property damage.
– Williams Uptown Pub & Peanut Bar: Property damage.
– Iron Door Pub: Fire damage
– Speedway LynLake: Extensive fire damage.
– Family Dollar 36th & Nicollet: Destroyed by fire.
– O'Reilly's Auto Parts 36th and Nicollet: Extensive fire damage.
– Fade Factory Barber Shop: Extensive fire damage.
– Hibachi Grill on Lake Street: Fire damage.
– Wells Fargo 31st and Nicollet: Property damage, extensive fire damage.
– Commercial building at 27th and East Lake: Extensive fire damage.
– USPS at 31st Street and 1st Avenue: Extensive fire damage and looting.
– Shell Gas Station Park and Lake: Property damage, fire, and looting.
– Migizi Communications 27th Avenue South: Destroyed by fire.
– Olympic Cafe West Broadway: Destroyed by fire.
– Metro by T-Mobile West Broadway: Fire damage.
– Lyndale Tobacco at 722 W. Lake St: Property damage.
– Paper Source Uptown: Property damage and looting.
– Everett’s Foods on 38th and Cedar: Property damage and looting.
– El Nuevo Rodeo Restaurante East Lake Street: Destroyed in fire.
– Holiday 36th and Cedar: Broken windows and looting.
– Matt's Bar 35th and Cedar: Broken window
– Subway at 36th and Cedar: broken windows.
– E&L Supermarket and Deli on Lowry Ave: Property damage.
– Nguyen Architects 26th and 27th: Destroyed in fire.
– Pantry Food Market 52nd Ave N and Bryant Ave. N: Property damage and looting.
– The Hub Bike Co-op: Property damage.
– Family Dollar 35th and Nicollet: Property damage.
– Pat's Tap 35th and Nicollet: Property damage.
– B-Squad Vintage 35th and Nicollet: Property damage.
– Tibet Store: Property damage.
– Speedway 35th and Nicollet: Property damage.
– Casablanca Foods 33rd and Nicollet: Property damage.
– Valerie's 32nd and Nicollet: Property damage.
– A Automall Inc. East Lake: Property damage, vehicles stolen.
– Speedway at 60th and Portland: Property damage.
– Broadway Clinic North Minneapolis: Property damage.
– Juxtaposition Arts North Emerson: Property damage.
– Sew Simple Nicollet and 24th: Property damage, looting.
– Park and Lake Car Wash on East Lake Street Windows broken, graffiti and some interior damage.
– Park-Nicollet Minneapolis Clinic: Property damage.
– Arby's Lake Street: Destroyed by fire.
– K-Mart Lake Street: Property damage.
– Penzey's Spices Uptown: Property damage, looting.
– Walgreens Hennepin and 27th: Property damage.
– Midori's Floating World Cafe Lake Street: Fire damage.
– GM Tobacco Lake and 27th: Fire damage.
– McDonald's Lake and 31st: Property damage.
– Walgreens Central and Lowry in Northeast: Property damage.
– Wells Fargo Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
– Ladditude Tattoo Lake and 27th: Fire damage.
– LV's Barbershop Lake and 27th: Fire damage.
– The Hub Bike Co-op Minnehaha and 30th: Property damage.
– J-Klips Lake Street: Property damage.
– 5 Guys Hennepin and 24th: Property damage.
– Holiday Hennepin and 25th: Property damage.
– Honda Town Lake and 43rd: Property damage.
– Tires Plus Lake and 34th: Property damage.
– Hennepin County Human Service Center: Property damage.
– ICC Wireless Lake Street: Property damage.
– Jackson Hewitt Tax Service: Property damage.
- Little Caesars Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
– Teppanyaki Grill Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
– Home Choice Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
– Dollar General Lake Street: Extensive fire damage.
– Twin Lake Dental: Fire and property damage.
– HD Laundry Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
– Citi Trends Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
– Total Wireless Lake Street: Fire and property damage.
– Pineda Tacos Lake Street: Property damage.
– Subway Lake Street: Property damage.
– 7 Mile Fashion Express East Lake Street: Destroyed by fire
– The Fremont Bar Uptown: Property damage, looting.
– O'Reilly Auto Parts West Broadway: Extensive fire damage.
– Broadway Liquor Outlet West Broadway: Property damage, looting.
– Quality Tobacco Lake and 1st: Extensive fire damage.
– Skol Liquor Store 27th Avenue: Property damage, looting.
– Max-It Pawn Shop Cedar Avenue: Extensive fire damage.
– Minnehaha Liquor Lake Street: Property damage, looting, extensive fire damage.
– Hexagon Bar at E 26th and 27th: Extensive fire damage.
– Target Lake Street: Looting, graffiti, property damage, fire damage.
– Wendy's Lake Street: Fire, destroyed.
– AutoZone Lake Street: Fire, destroyed.
– Cub Foods Lake Street: Looting, property damage, fire damage.
– Under construction affordable housing development at 26th and 29th: Fire, destroyed.
– 7-Sigma building, 26th and 29th: Fire, extensive damage.
– Minneapolis 3rd Police Precinct: Destroyed by fire.
– Dollar Tree off Lake Street: Property damage, looting.
– Metro by T-Mobile Lake Street: Fire, extensive damage.
– Hi Lake Liquor: Property damage, looting.
– Speedway East Lake Street: Property damage.
– East Lake Library: Windows smashed, graffiti.
– Precision Tune Auto Care Lake Street: Property damage.
– U.S. Bank Lake Street: Property damage, graffiti.
– Dairy Queen East Lake Street: Property damage.
– Papa Murphy's Pizza East Lake Street: Property damage.
– Planet Fitness on Lake: Property damage.
– Domino's Pizza 26th and 28th: Property damage.
– Urban Forage Winery and Cider House, Lake and 29th: Property damage, looting.
– Gandhi Mahal Restaurant, 27th and Lake: Extensive fire damage.
– Car-X Tire & Auto East Lake Street: Property damage, vehicle smashed through windows.
– Frattelone's Ace Hardware East Lake Street: Property damage.
– MN Transitions Charter School: Property damage.
– Laundro Max East Lake Street: Window smashed.
– Soderberg's Floral & Gift East Lake Street: Property damage.
– East Lake Clinic: Property damage.
– Seward Pharmacy: Window smashed, graffiti.
– Electra Tune Auto Care on Lake St: Property damage, vehicle stolen.
– Walgreens at 43rd and Chicago: Property damage, looting.
– Elevated Beer Wine & Spirits, Hiawatha Ave: Property damage, looting.
– Schooner's Tavern, barbershop next door: Fire, property damage.
– Seward Co-op, 28th and Franklin: Window smashed, attempted theft of ATM.
– Midtown Global Market: Property damage, looting.
– Briva Health Lake Street: Window smashed.
– Foot Locker East Lake Street: Property damage, looting.
– BMO Harris East Lake Street: Property damage.
– TCF Bank at 38th and Minnehaha: Property damage.
– Briva Health Lake Street: Window smashed.
– Foot Locker East Lake Street: Property damage, looting.
– BMO Harris East Lake Street: Property damage.
– TCF Bank at 38th and Minnehaha: Property damage.
– Studiiyo23 Hennepin Avenue, Uptown: Property damage, looting.
– DTLR, Broadway, North Minneapolis: Property damage, looting.
– Uptown Pawn: Property damage, looting.
– La Familia Skate Shop: Property damage.
– Target Uptown: Property damage, looting.


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Aug 8, 2009
– Chicago & Lake Liquor: Property damage, looting.
– East Lake Liquor: Property damage, looting.
– Ingebretsens on Lake: Property damage, windows smashed.
– Freewheel Bike: Property damage, windows smashed.
– Hamdi Restaurant, Midtown: Property damage, graffiti.
– Hudson's Hardware, East 42nd Street: Property damage and looting.
–Birchwood Cafe, East 25th Street: Property damage.
– CVS Uptown: Property damage, looting.
– Timberland Uptown: Property damage, looting.
– Sunnys Wigs 29th and Lyndale: Property damage.
– Thurston Jewelers West Lake Street: Property damage.
– Banadir Pharmacy West Lake Street: Property damage and looting
– Sephora Uptown: Property damage.
– Gamestop Uptown: Property damage, looting.
– Indulge and Bloom, Uptown: Property damage.
– H&M Uptown: Windows smashed.
– Apple Store Uptown: Windows smashed., looting.
– Urban Outfitters Uptown: Door window smashed.
– Smokeless Northeast: Vandalized, closed till further notice.
– AutoZone at 501 West Broadway, North Minneapolis: Unconfirmed report of looting, property damage.
– Buzzmart, downtown Minneapolis: Property damage.
– Town Talk Diner, Lake Street: Extensive property damage.
– Bondesque: Property damage.


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May 6, 2010

It appears to me that our elected officials have displayed a lack of leadership, of courage and of knowledge in their handling of the "demonstrations", "marches", "protests" and RIOTS.

We in New York have had experience with politicians (David Dinkins), giving instructions to police commanders to "let them vent" during Brooklyn's Crown Heights Riots of 1991.

Only after three days of violence, one homicide, eight police officers being shot, and Dinkins himself getting hit with a barrage of bricks and bottles did he change direction. The riots ended the next night, after hundreds of arrests by a cadre of young and daring police commanders were brought in specifically to end the violence. Was it always pretty? Was it always perfect? Clearly the answer is no, but the police must be given the benefit of the doubt when performing duty in close proximity to real and potential life threatening behaviors by the rioters.

We now see politicians making the same mistakes that Dinkins made almost 30 years ago. Across the country in most of our major cities, political leaders do not want to confront the facts on the street. Our local Mayor believes that police culture is the villain. He thinks not enough has been done by the leadership of the nation's greatest, most diverse, best trained and finest police force. He believes that the disgrace in Minnesota was not an aberration from the daily heroics of law enforcement officers across the country, he believes we are all the same as that disgraced cop and need to change. What has to change is the behavior of the rioters. This is mostly cause and effect. Riotous actions, (cause) result in police action (effect). Start at the source of the trouble, CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR by a cadre dedicated to violence.

True protests are usually organized events sponsored by groups with leadership. These leaders usually work closely with police officials prior to the event to minimize the possibility of violence, danger to protesters or police, danger or risk of collisions to pedestrians or automobiles etc. These discussions involve the specifics of the protest as well:

will it be static at one location or are they requesting a permit to parade along an agreed upon route? Will the group have their own marshals with clearly identified armbands to assist the police and act as go betweens during the protest? What are the agreed upon hours of the protest? Protestors are forbidden from carrying anything that might be used as a weapon, including sticks attached to cardboard signs for example. Does the potential exist for counter demonstrators, or for violence within the group itself?

After these questions are answered and actions agreed upon, the group then demonstrates or protests according to the agreed upon stipulations. 90 % of these protests end with no violence and little enforcement action. They all BEGIN AND END BEFORE NIGHTFALL.

The combination of organized, static, daylight protests, with the assistance and protection of the police results in the best possible outcomes. When you have unorganized groups, with no visible leadership, no cooperation with police, moving through the city at NIGHT, you have the recipe for disaster. Add to this the fact that elected officials are more interested in scrutinizing police actions during these events than in setting the proper tone for the rioters and outlawing unlawful mobile nighttime "protests" particularly during this time of social distancing. The mere presence of these "demonstrators" in the numbers we have seen is a clear violation of executive orders here in New York. Why are they allowed to continue?

In the case of the NYPD, my heart goes out to them at this very difficult and dangerous time. We have a governor ,who"stands with the protestors", vying with a Mayor to see who can gain credit for investigating police actions as their first priority, all the while allowing the dangers to the public and the police to persist and multiply.

I know the tactics, strategies and equipment that the NYPD has in reserve is sufficient to handle any threat to the city. Sectoring, Linear Strategy, Strong Perimeters, Cordons, Double Cordons, Flanking Columns, Mounted Unit, Highway Patrol Unit, Rapid Mobilization Codes, Mobilization Points, Command Posts, Dual Dispatch may all come into play if this rioting doesn't end promptly. Police use necessary force because it seems the "protestors" didn't attend the deescalation training that our cops did. It seems that there is also a conscious desire to create violence in these mobs by anarchists and others with crime on their mind. They don't obey lawful orders or entreaties by politicians.

I am equally aware that the political officers of our City and State are part of the problem, not the solution. God bless the men and women of the NYPD now and always.



Lou Anemone, Chief of Department, NYPD, retired.


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Jun 22, 2007
Nine or ten days of violence.

What ever happened to "prayer vigils".


Well-known member
May 6, 2010
Possible trouble BX 149 St & Third Ave 1830 tonight stay alert.


May 28, 2020
As a FF that worked the night of the July 77 blackout and I watched the looting and burning on Broadway. They drove a car through the roll down gates and looted the store and then torched it. I simply can't watch any televised news because theses people are entirely out of control. The block on Broadway is still vacant 43 years later.


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May 6, 2010
That was a very bad night....i spent from around 2130 to 1030 hrs up and down Broadway & had many Fires ( which is why i worked there to go to Fires) but after going home the next afternoon i actually felt depressed concerning the destroying of the neighborhoods.... no matter how many Fires i went too before that i never felt that way over the conduct of the people that night .


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May 6, 2010

Judge Suspends Habeas Corpus in NYC

A Manhattan judge has denied the release of protesters, whose arraignments are overdue, as the city is experiencing “a crisis within a crisis” during protests and the coronavirus pandemic.

The Legal Aid Society filed a petition Tuesday seeking the release of all defendants who had been arrested and were awaiting arraignment longer than 24 hours, since legally arraignments must take place within this time frame barring necessary delays.

During a hearing held by video Thursday, Legal Aid’s Marlen Bodden asked a judge to immediately release hundreds of protesters arrested as the city takes to the streets in the wake of George Floyd’s death.

“The NYPD is responsible for holding 400 New Yorkers, mainly protesters, who were arrested for opposing police brutality … That is their right,” Bodden said. “This detention of these presumed innocent New Yorkers is a violation.”

Bodden added that the people have been packed in pens that don’t allow for social distancing, without water, masks and hand sanitizer.

Mary O’Flynn, a lawyer representing the city, countered, “There are situations that would justify a delay of over 24 hours. If there was ever a reason for a delay it would be this.”

“There are a vast number of people who have protested in the city. People who have been arrested for burglary and for looting,” O’Flynn said. “Right now we are in a crisis within a crisis, and there are a lot of mitigating factors that go into this puzzle.”

NYPD Assistant Deputy Commissioner of Equity & Inclusion Janine Gilbert told the judge that cops are doing the best they can to process all of the new arrests quickly but acknowledged social distancing is a challenge as holding facilities have become flooded with defendants.

“At times, the streets have been chaos and downright scary,” Gilbert said. “For this reason, we have had to take extreme measures in order to maintain the order.”

She explained that the whole police department is working 12-hour shifts with no days off.

And while cops have been making many arrests they are opting to issue summonses and desk appearance tickets wherever possible rather than holding people for arraignments, Gilbert said.

Gilbert also acknowledged that there are delays since the courts now hold arraignments virtually, which comes with technological and logistical problems.

But, Gilbert denied Bodden’s assertion that the defendants weren’t being given masks — and said they have drinking water dispensers and a sink with soap and water for hand washing. She said they stopped supplying hand sanitizer in the pens after dispensers were broken and used as weapons.

Gilbert also said the amount of people still awaiting to go before a judge was now down to around 200.

Of the people who had been held longer than 24 hours, the most common charge against defendants was burglary, according to a spokesman with the Law Department.

Bodden fired back after Gilbert’s lengthy explanation of challenges the police were facing, saying it was all still not an excuse for the arraignment delays.

“The NYPD has no excuses with its 38,000 police officers and the best technology in the world, with all the money they are being given, they have no excuse to not process them in a timely manner,” Bodden said.

Manhattan Acting Supreme Court Justice James Burke Thursday sided with the city and denied the request to release the defendants before they went before a judge.

“I do find that there is a crisis within a crisis specifically a civil unrest crisis within the overarching COVID-19 crisis,” Burke said. “To that end, the entire police department has been deployed and the entire Manhattan DA’s office is ‘all hands on deck’ and working to relieve the system.”

Burke said the arraignment delays are necessary, “because we are in a crisis caused by the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic which prevents live arraignments, which in turn causes virtual arraignments, which causes delays.”