Possible Battalion Chief Incident Assignments?

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So I was curious and tried looking into this for a while now.
By assignments I'm referring to on a 2-2 a Resource Unit Leader and Safety Officer being assigned to BCs, a 3-3 getting a Staging Area Manager and Air Recon Chief.

But while looking into it more, I've came across things such as Patient Tracking Chiefs, Planning Section Chiefs, and others.
(Some others ones are referred to on here: https://www.nyc.gov/html/fdny/insider/resources/do/2013/030_sup_31_2013.pdf "Sector Supervisor, Street Coordination Manager, Strike Team Leader, etc")

Is there a defined list of what the possible assignments are, and when they are probably/definitely required and allocated?
 
If there is a significant number of patients, especially if it involves firefighter injuries, an additional Battalion Chief is often special called to act and a Victim tracking Officer, whose job is to track and record who is injured, who transported them to the hospital and to what hospital they were transported to. ALSO, a Battalion Chief is often sent to the Hospital that most of the Firefighter patients are sent to coordinate the treatment and account for members removed to that hospital and make notifications as needed to the on duty medical officer and the city-wide duty chief.
-Planning Section Chief is a chief at major and especially long-lasting incidents to help coordinate long range planning of operations and procurement and tracking of needed resources.
-Street Supervisor - coordinates the arriving units so they a physically placed in the street/s in such a way to maximize their usefulness.
-Street Coordination Manager= coordinates placement units other than FDNY units, i.e. Police. Utilities, other resources in the street/s.
-Stike Team Leader- During Emergency Command Procedure = Times of Civil Unrest, supervises a Fire Control Team normally comprised of at least P.D. a Battalion Chief 2 Engine Companies, a Tower Ladder, and more Police that responded as a group in the order above to further ensure the safety of units in the Fife Control Team. The concept comes out of the L.A. Fire Dept. during the Watt's Riots of the 1960s.
Strike teams can also be used for situations such as multiple widespread wilderness/brush fires such as what is going on in greater Los Angles at this time.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
By no means is this a comprehensive list but two additional assignments that come to mind arise from the 10-66, one BC gets assigned as the FF Locator Chief and one as the FAST Group Leader, I believe. Another: for rail incidents, one BC is assigned Transit Liaison Officer (TLO).

This is stretching my knowledge of NIMS/ICS so someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I guess in theory there isn't really a limit to these assignments because a BC could be assigned whatever type of sector is needed for the varying specifics of a given incident.
 
HFN01 said:
This is stretching my knowledge of NIMS/ICS so someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I guess in theory there isn't really a limit to these assignments because a BC could be assigned whatever type of sector is needed for the varying specifics of a given incident.
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Captain784 said:
If there is a significant number of patients, especially if it involves firefighter injuries, an additional Battalion Chief is often special called to act and a Victim tracking Officer, whose job is to track and record who is injured, who transported them to the hospital and to what hospital they were transported to. ALSO, a Battalion Chief is often sent to the Hospital that most of the Firefighter patients are sent to coordinate the treatment and account for members removed to that hospital and make notifications as needed to the on duty medical officer and the city-wide duty chief.
-Planning Section Chief is a chief at major and especially long-lasting incidents to help coordinate long range planning of operations and procurement and tracking of needed resources.
-Street Supervisor - coordinates the arriving units so they a physically placed in the street/s in such a way to maximize their usefulness.
-Street Coordination Manager= coordinates placement units other than FDNY units, i.e. Police. Utilities, other resources in the street/s.
-Stike Team Leader- During Emergency Command Procedure = Times of Civil Unrest, supervises a Fire Control Team normally comprised of at least P.D. a Battalion Chief 2 Engine Companies, a Tower Ladder, and more Police that responded as a group in the order above to further ensure the safety of units in the Fife Control Team. The concept comes out of the L.A. Fire Dept. during the Watt's Riots of the 1960s.
Strike teams can also be used for situations such as multiple widespread wilderness/brush fires such as what is going on in greater Los Angles at this time.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
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That explains some very well, thank you 'Captain784'.
Is there a particular instance where a Planning Section Chief is established? a 5-5, 10-60C1, s/c'd? Or is it just when the IC deems it necessary (as I'm guessing the same with the Street and Strike Team roles)
 
HFN01 said:
By no means is this a comprehensive list but two additional assignments that come to mind arise from the 10-66, one BC gets assigned as the FF Locator Chief and one as the FAST Group Leader, I believe. Another: for rail incidents, one BC is assigned Transit Liaison Officer (TLO).

This is stretching my knowledge of NIMS/ICS so someone can correct me if I am wrong, but I guess in theory there isn't really a limit to these assignments because a BC could be assigned whatever type of sector is needed for the varying specifics of a given incident.
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I thought this position belonged to a Staff Chief? Not a B.C.
 
Darrell said:
I thought this position belonged to a Staff Chief? Not a B.C.
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There may be someone on staff who is designated to liaise with MTA on strategic / administrative matters, but the Transit Liaison Officer is a different initiative. Certain battalions have been trained in transit operations and respond to the MTA control centre (this may be the wrong term) to act as an FDNY liaison for emergency responses. In other words, the TLO is a designation for operating battalions for fires and emergencies in transit which would be separate from any staff chief transit responsibility. I can't find which battalions are designed but there is one in midtown for sure. Will update the post if I find them, or someone else can chime in.
 
Not sure if there is a Staff Chief that is designated to Liaise with MTA (And if there is I'm learning something new)

I believe 11H is to Liaise with NYPD
 
Signal73 said:
Believe its still B9 & B2
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Looking through past incident rundowns I see BN6 and BN7 also assigned occasionally as TLOs. The MTA rail control centre is only a few blocks from the 9th, so it makes sense they'd be the most commonly assigned for sure.
 
HFN01 said:
Looking through past incident rundowns I see BN6 and BN7 also assigned occasionally as TLOs. The MTA rail control centre is only a few blocks from the 9th, so it makes sense they'd be the most commonly assigned for sure.
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Wonder if things have changed. Or they have added 6 & 7
 
HFN01 said:
I think it is in the ops reference guide somewhere, will check later
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So, there are a few different layers to this. Per the ops reference guide:
- 1BC from either BN2, 6, 10, or 11 is assigned daily, Mon to Sat, to be the FDNY TLO in the MTA's Rail Control Centre (RCC) from 6am to 7pm.
- Outside those hours, it appears any local battalion that is rail trained can be requested to go to the RCC and serve as a TLO.
- Metro North has their one Operations Control Centre at Grand Central. BNs 2, 4, and 10 get assigned here as a TLO as necessary.
- The LIRR has a Command Centre in Jamaica, where Bus 50, 51, 54, or the nearest rail trained chief get assigned for transit incidents.
 
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Does FDNY and EMS have plans for multi-day operations such as are occurring in Los Angeles right now ? A plan might include FF relief, rotation, meals, rest, fuel for apparatus, mutual aid, communications etc.
 
jlab said:
Does FDNY and EMS have plans for multi-day operations such as are occurring in Los Angeles right now ? A plan might include FF relief, rotation, meals, rest, fuel for apparatus, mutual aid, communications etc.
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I'm sure the department has something that they created, especially following 9/11.

As for the mutual aid, I believe nothing has ever been put into place, but im sure that if the Department asked for Outside Companies to fill firehouses, they would.
 
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