Sutphen

[memory master]

I saw a bit on the local TV news last night regarding Sutphen Apparatus. They have opened "Sutphen East" in Wayne County, Pa. on state route 191 just north of I-84. It was reported that chassis will be brought to this facility from their Ohio plant and custom apparatus will be finished here in Pa. The plant is located in a brand new industrial park and they are one of the first to move in.

 

[nfd2004]

Some of us may remember the TWO Sutphen Tower Ladders FDNY bought. I think they were 100 ft and assigned to Ladders Co 14 and 119.

 

[Nasibova]

yes l saw photos of them,100' Quints, L 14 & L 119, early 80' s... " Lions Of Hooper Street " ( 119 )

https://www.google.com/search?q=fdny+sutphen+ladder+119&biw=1366&bih=662&tbm=isch&imgil=NSHqiBBZQSWP1M%253A%253BG1zY_ZcYhUzQ9M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Fnycfire.net%25252Fforums%25252Findex.php%25253Ftopic%2525253D3017.1440&source=iu&pf=m&fir=NSHqiBBZQSWP1M%253A%252CG1zY_ZcYhUzQ9M%252C_&usg=__iaSPZPAizuhI42WkAvuCIyq5wGY%3D&ved=0ahUKEwjf_vKC7vHRAhVC1CYKHTQsAWQQyjcIJQ&ei=4mGTWN-FKMKomwG02ISgBg#imgrc=NSHqiBBZQSWP1M:

Also there's the 2  1984 ALF / LTI Rearmount Ladder Tower Quints, # 14 & 163
And the 2 Mack Bulldog / LTI 106' rearmounts, L 30 & L 132

 

[68jk09]

At the end 119 had both of the Sutphens in their qtrs....the 2nd one (old 14) was a spare only to be used by 119 as other LADs were not trained on it.....also even though they both had pumps the agreement between the City & the Union was the the pumps would not be used.

 

[Nasibova]

now that you say that l remember hearin it somewhere.... maybe right here

what was the point of not using the pumps?

 

[jmag228]

Sutphen has been down this road before. My company's 1994 engine was built at their upstate NY facility. The apparatus built in Ohio (Amlin) outside Columbus had a much better service record ( We also had a 1990 tower ladder, no pump) . Hope they have better success in PA.  Overall an excellent custom apparatus built by a manufacturer in the business for over 100 years

 

[68jk09]

now that you say that l remember hearin it somewhere.... maybe right here

what was the point of not using the pumps?

The point was that it was a Ladder w/Ladder Staffing no additional men to do Engine work it was never planned to be used as Quint in the FDNY.

 

[Nasibova]

[/quote]The point was that it was a Ladder w/Ladder Staffing no additional men to do Engine work it was never planned to be used as Quint in the FDNY.
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Oh, Ok, Thanks.
So did they use the pumps on the ALF / LTI Quints? Were they planned?

 

[68jk09]

No.