10/19/2009 Queens Box 5613 ALL HANDS + L165 involved in MVA

[efd274]

10/19/2009
Box 5613 89th Ave and 242 St
Address 88-47 241 St Queens Village

08:41
Disp 237: Phone alarm for a PD - third floor
Disp: 54 has 3&2 with E301 the 10-14 Engine

First Alarm
Engines: 304 251 301
Trucks TL162 TL160
BC 54
Disp to E326 - take a marker
Disp to B53 - same message - remain in service

10-75 transmitted between '08:41 and 08:44 but not on archive tape

Engine 326 (unconfirmed)
Truck L150 FAST
Rescue 4
Squad 270 unavailable
BC 53 (unconfirmed)
DC 14

08:44
Disp to B54: Squad 270 is unavailable - if you need one we'll assign one
B54: 10:4

08:46
B54: using All Hands on arrival - need an extra Engine and truck -
have fire out the front and the 2 sides -2-1/2 story peaked roof PD

08:47
Disp transmits All Hands
Squad 288 and RAC 4 are assigned on the ALL HANDS

08:48
B54: 2-1/2 story - 20 x40 wood frame
Exposures
1 - street
2 - similar detached
3 - yard
4 - similar detached
0ne L/S one in operation - trucks are opening up -searches are in progress
Disp: status of the fire?
B54: fire is doubtful Queens
Duration 10 minutes

08:49
B54: 2 L/S and one in operation - fire is still doubtful

09:00
L165: can't respond to the box - involved in a minor MVA with no damage -
we're at Elmont Rd and Hempstead Avenue (rather strange route to Box)

09:02
Disp to D14: we're going to replace L165 with L133 since L165 was involved in a minor MVA
D14: you can return L133

09:05
L151 is 10-8 in L150's response area

09:10
D14: fire is under control
Duration 31 minutes

09:11
L165: has a battalion been assigned to this accident?
Disp: standby - are you at Elmont Rd and Hempstead Tpke in Elmont?
L165: 10-4
Disp: ok we're going to get you Nassau PD and a chief

Limited information availalable (e.g. extra Engine never identified) on archive tape as transmission was switching back and forth to other boros

 

[guitarman314]

That's not so unusual as SE Queens units often go through Nassau County when responding. Jamaica Ave. turns into Hempstead Tpke. Also units respond into the Rockaways via Rockaway Blvd proceeding through Woodmere, Cedarhurst/Lawrence and Inwood. L134 does the same in reverse since it's the 2nd due truck into a couple of Rosedale/Brookville boxes.

 

[FDNY150]

And the same can be said for E-63/L-39 on some boxes where they head into Yonkers or Mt. Vernon.

 

[efd274]

G'man - agree with you on responses into the eastern areas of the Rockaways that Rockaway Blvd is generally used.

However, your changing some of the geography on me with regard to L165 on this box:

1. Jamaica Avenue actually becomes Jericho Tpke and Hempstead Avenue becomes Hempstead Tpke.

2. The most direct response for L165 (if coming from quarters) would be either Springfield Blvd or the Cross Island Pkwy.  Perhaps there was traffic and/or construction on these roadways that caused L165 to be at Hempstead Ave/Tpke and Elmont Road. I know this area pretty well as my mother-in law lives in the general area and I feel very confident in saying they wound up taking a circuitous route for some reason.  The quickest route would be the Cross Island Pkwy which Mapquest estimates at
4.66 miles and a 12 minute trip.

At the end of the day fortunately it appears no one was hurt in the minor MVA

However you are right about trips through Nassau though. Even 251 in Glen Oaks and E304 and TL 162 occassionally traverse Nassau on some runs.

 

[guitarman314]

Quote/efd274: 1. Jamaica Avenue actually becomes Jericho Tpke and Hempstead Avenue becomes Hempstead Tpke.  Wow! I didn't even notice that big error I made as I should know better having lived for more than 10 years just 2 exits away from Jericho Tpke on the Cross Island Pkwy. :

 

[efd274]

No problem - we all make errors and typos etc.