11/11/2011 Bronx Box 2397 All Hands

efd274 · Nov 11, 2011

Box 2397 - Morris Ave and 164 St
Address: 964 Morris Ave

19:43
Disp transmits 10-75

L55FAST

19:46
BC17: transmits All hands for fire in Apt 3 George - 5 story 100x150 - 1L/S/O

19:49
DC6: all visible fire K/D - still doubtful - primaries fire floor and floor above are negative

19:58
DC6: Primaries and Secondaries complete and negative Under Control

mikeindabronx · Nov 11, 2011

efd274 said:
964 Morris Ave

19:43
Disp transmits 10-75

964 Morris Ave.,BN-17, fire on the 3rd fl apt 3G of a 5 sty 150X100 OMD
Could be..E-92,50,71,TL-44,L-19
L-55 (FAST)

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guitarman314 · Nov 11, 2011

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fdnyrules92 · Nov 12, 2011

Right down the road from the quarters of 92/44.. i would imagine 50 beating in 71.... but its the borough of gentleman

fdnyrules92 · Nov 12, 2011

92 went OOS and detailed members around the borough.. i know some went to 50 engine

anesti · Nov 12, 2011

fdnyrules92 said:
92 went OOS and detailed members around the borough.. i know some went to 50 engine

Why did they go OOS for???

mac8146 · Nov 12, 2011

From another site: It seems like some members from 92 tapped out as did other members from other units, I guess they detailed the remaining members from 92 to fill vacancies in other units, placing 92 out for the remainder of tour.

nfd2004 · Nov 13, 2011

mac8146 said:
From another site: It seems like some members from 92 tapped out as did other members from other units, I guess they detailed the remaining members from 92 to fill vacancies in other units, placing 92 out for the remainder of tour.

Wow, I can't believe they put an Engine Co OUT OF SERVICE like that. I would think they would call in other members on O.T. to fill in the empty spots. What if this happened to a few more companies, would they just shut them down for the day too ??

dillondotcom · Nov 13, 2011

They did this a few months back to 54 truck. 54 had a 1st due job and a few members tapped out. They then shut them down for the remainder and sent the remaining members of 54 out to fill other companies in the batt.

mac8146 · Nov 13, 2011

With regard to calling in members after tour has started, this is not allowed as per contracts. Each tour has to be staffed with a certain amount of manpower. As of now we have the 4 HazTech Engines with 5 man per rig and they are a manpower pool as they usually lose the 5th man early in tour. Once all Haz Tech are down to 4 then it is a Division decision as to what happens with manpower if companies lose men at jobs or other reasons.

grumpy grizzly · Nov 13, 2011

I am not an accountant but the reason many companies will not hire is because it is cheaper to pay OT then it is to pay a f/t employee. No SS no FICA, etc. I have my personnal responses to this issue but it is deeper than this site wants to get in to.

nfd2004 · Nov 13, 2011

Thank you for your help and I appreciate your response. I was always under the impression that the regular number of manned companies would NOT be shut down due to manpower shortages. I do remember when I think "Roaster Manning" was first instutated. But I never knew a company could be put out of service. If this is in the contract, then I assume it was agreed to by both sides. Of course, I'm only an outsider, but I just don't ever remember hearing of that happening.