4/1/2011 Third Alarm Queens Box 9305

firebuffkevin · Apr 1, 2011

34th AVE at 126 PL

126-12 34th Avenue. Just a couple of blocks from CITIFIELD

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=126-12+34+Avenue+Flushing+NY&layer=c&z=17&iwloc=A&sll=40.759707,-73.844728&cbp=13,156.9,0,0,0&cbll=40.759923,-73.844850&hl=en&ved=0CA4Q2wU&sa=X&ei=CUiWTYKzGqSszATvnKiCCw

Report of a fire on the second floor of a 2 story commercial

E 316 gave the 10-75 at 17:28

E 316, 289, 273,
L 129, L130, you are second truck
B 52

10-75

E 274
L 154 FAST
R 4
S 288
B 46
D 14

17:33 B 52 we have a fire on the second floor of a to story commercial 100x150. Start out an extra engine and truck. Make the truck a Tower ladder

17:34 E 297 and L 152 S/C

17:38 All Hands Working. Heavy smoke condition. Searches beginning.

Exposures:

1. Street
2. Parking lot
3. Unknown
4. 1 story commercial

17:39 B 52 transmit a second alarm fire in cockloft

17:40 Second Alarm assignment:
E 307, 287, 320
L167
B 49 Safety
B 53 RUL
Field Comm
E 72 with SAT 2, S/C E 324 was out on another box(s)
RB and SB

Car 4 C Chief Ronald Spadofora responding. Command Tactical responding.

17:41 D 14 we need another tower ladder

17:43 TL 160 S/C

17:47 TL 152 and TL 160 report to the front of the fire building on 34 Avenue

17:49 D 14 requests all units responding in to Box 9305 to go to Command Channel 2

17:52 If staging required, it will be Northern Blvd and 128 Street

17:57 D 14 Transmit a third alarm

18:02 Staging changed to Northern Blvd. and 127 Street

18:03 Third Alarm

E 305, 299, 315, 319
TL 144, TL 127, bot S/C
B 50 Third alarm chief
B 20 Staging
MSU
B 43 Air Recon

18:06 Car 4 C 10-84

18:07 D 14 have TL 144 and TL 127 to 126 Street and 34 Avenue

18:09 Queens trying to raise E 72 with Sat 2

18:11 Field Comm Car 4 C reports a heavy fire condition, 2 L/S/O in rear, one tower ladder in front. Fire is doubtful

18:12 B 43 reports he is at Floyd Bennett Field. Check with D 14 if he wants us in the air.

18:13 Field Comm - you can 10-8 B 43

18:15 Field Comm notify Buildings and DEP to respond. Also OEM. Cell towers on roof of building are on fire. Find out who owns them and notify.

18:17 Field Comm checking to see where B 20 is? B 20 just 10-84 walking over to Staging

18:23 Field Comm: Car 4 C reports main body of fire KD. 1 TL in front, 1 TL in rear, 2 TLs setting up in front. DWH

18:27 Queens to FC: Con Ed - 1 hour, DEP, 30 minutes, National Grid first available, Still working with OEM to determine owner of cell towers

18:31 Field Comm Seaches from outside are negative, cannot go ito building. Exterior operation. Doubtful

18:33 Field Comm 4C, Fire Marshalls requested. PWH

18:37 Field Comm: S/C HazMat 1 to respond to this location. S 270 HazTech and HM Battalion

19:12 UC

19:57 D 14, we are going 10-8, B 52 is the IC

Relocations: E 326/287, B 3/52, L 133/129, L 48/167, E 96/307, E 66/320, B12/46, E 298/273, E258/289, E 314/299, E 239/319, L 158/160. L 50/130, L 133/129, L 135/138, E 35/287,

MichaelS · Apr 1, 2011

Now 3rd alarm with 2 TLs

efd274 · Apr 1, 2011

17:59
UPDATE: DIV-14 REQ. 3RD ALARM & 2 T/LS, HEAVY FIRE IN A 2 STORY 100X150 WAREHOUSE, EXTERIOR OPS, DOUBTFUL WILL HOLD

firebuffkevin · Apr 1, 2011

Live stream of fire:

http://www.emergencystream.com/video_streams/NY/NYC2.html

memory master · Apr 1, 2011

289, 324 and 138 must have been on other runs. 289 and 138 are definitely 1st alarm units.

lifeguard91 · Apr 1, 2011

PWH 18:33 Cell towers are owned by ATT

firebuffkevin · Apr 1, 2011

Video and report from ABC News:

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=8048260

firebuffkevin · Apr 1, 2011

Photos courtesy of FIRST ON SCENE:

http://www.firstonscenephotos.com/FDNY/FDNY-Queens-3rd-Alarm-Flush41/16435685_ivrBA

mikeindabronx · Apr 1, 2011

@ 20:27 BN-52 requested an E&TL for relief...E-313 & TL-135 assigned.

efd274 · Apr 1, 2011

Courtesy of Ex Chief 84

Queens, N. Y. 04/01/11 @ 17:30 hrs.

Flushing Section

Box 9305

address: 126 ? 12 34th Ave.

between: 126th St. & 127th St.

9305 @ 17:25

Engs. 273, 316, 289

Lads. 129, 130

Batt. 52

10 ? 75 ? 9305 @ 17:29

Ladder 154 is designated as the ?FAST? Truck

Eng. 274

Rescue Co. #4

Squad Co. #288

Batt. 46

Division 14

Fire Building:

2 Story Brick 100 x 50 Commercial

Surrounding Properties:

Exp. #1: Is a Street

Exp. #2: Is a Parking Lot

Exp. #3: Is a Rear Lot

Exp. #4: Is a 1 Story Commercial attach

All ? Hands:

7 ? 5 ? 9305 @ 17:36

Batt. 52 reports: Box 0305, Using All ? Hands. We have a heavy smoke

condition in a 2 Story Commercial Bldg. Unknown where the seat of the

fire is at. Special Call an additional Engine & Truck.

Engine 297 & TowerLadder 152 are s/c

2nd Alarm:

2 ? 2 ? 9305 @ 17:39

Engs. 307, 287, 320

Lad. 167

Eng. 72 w / Satellite 2 s/c

Batt. 49 ?Safety Officer?

Batt. 53 ?Resource Unit Leader?

Rescue Battalion / Safety Battalion

Fieldcom 1 / Tactical Support Unit #1

Car 4 ?Charlie? Assist. Chief Ronald Spadafora

@ 17:45

Division 14: Box 9305, Special Call an additional TowerLadder

TowerLadder 160 s/c

?Division 14 to Queens, Transmit a 3rd Alarm, Have ( 2 ) TowerLadders assigned?

3rd Alarm:

3 ? 3 ? 9305 @ 17:57

Engs. 305, 299, 315, 319

T. Lad. 144 s/c / T. Lad. 127 s/c

Batt. 50

Batt. 20 ?Staging Manager?

Batt. 43 ?Air Re ? Con Chief?

Mask Service Unit #1

Staging Area: Northern Blvd. & 127th St.

@ 18:11

Fieldcom 1: Progress Report for the 3rd Alarm, Box 9305, Division 14 reports:

Heavy fire condition in the Fire Bldg. Check Exposure 34 for any extensions.

2 ? lines stretched and in operation in the rear of the Fire Bldg. ( 1 ) TowerLadder

set up and operating in front of the Fire Bldg. We had a collapse of the roof.

This is an exterior operation. Fire is Doubtful.

@ 18:23

Fieldcom 1: Progress Report for the 3rd Alarm, Box 9305, Car 4 ?Charlie?

Assist. Chief Spadafora reports: Main body of fire has been knocked down.

Still have pockets of fire on the 2nd floor. ( 1 ) TowerLadder in operation in front

of the Fire Bldg. 2nd TowerLadder being set-up. ( 1 ) TowerLadder operating in the

rear of the Fire Bldg. ( 2 ) hand-lines operating in front of the Fire Bldg.

Still Doubtful.

@ 18:31

Fieldcom 1: Progress Report for the 3rd Alarm, Box 9305, Car 4 ?Charlie?

Assist. Chief Spadafora reports: All Searches have been conducted from the outside

and is negative. We have collapse sections inside the Fire Bldg. We have no one inside.

Still Doubtful.

@ 18:33

Fieldcom 1: Progress Report for the 3rd Alarm, Box 9305, Car 4 ?Charlie?

Assist. Chief Spadafora reports: Probably Will Hold.

@ 18:38

Fieldcom 1: Special Call Haz. Mat. due to exploded cylinders in the Bldg.

Haz. Mat. #1 s/c

Squad Co. #270 s/c as the Haz. Tech. Unit

Haz. Mat. Battalion s/c

@ 19:11

Fieldcom 1: Progress Report for the 3rd Alarm, Box 9305, Car 4 ?Charlie?

Assist. Chief Spadafora reports: All searches on the 1st floor were conducted

from the exterior and are negative. Searches on the 2nd floor were conducted

from the exterior via the TowerLadder and are negative. Had a partial collapse

of the Exp. #2 wall. Fire is UnderControl.

( Job Duration: 1 hr. / 46 mins. )

efd274 · Apr 1, 2011

Memory master - you are correct about E289 and TL138 - G'man theory at work!!

I see E72 with Sat 2 from the Bronx was S/C on the Second Alarm - does anyone know why this was done as opposed to having E291 pick up the Sattelite?

HalliganHook · Apr 1, 2011

TL138 OOS for Company Medicals. They are normally 2nd due. E-316 got in first due and gave the 10-75. Heavy fire throughout a 2-story commercial 150x75. Original ticket was received as "fire from the roof of a multiple dwelling", anyone that knows that area knows there is no residential. Heard that the inside team from L-129 was forced to bail-out when someone pre-maturely took a window directly above the area fully-involved on the 1st floor. Luckily everyone made it out unharmed.

AuxWarYearsCapt · Apr 2, 2011

On the relocations E- 231 Acting E- 319

OSW · Apr 3, 2011

HalliganHook said:
TL138 OOS for Company Medicals. They are normally 2nd due. E-316 got in first due and gave the 10-75. Heavy fire throughout a 2-story commercial 150x75. Original ticket was received as "fire from the roof of a multiple dwelling", anyone that knows that area knows there is no residential. Heard that the inside team from L-129 was forced to bail-out when someone pre-maturely took a window directly above the area fully-involved on the 1st floor. Luckily everyone made it out unharmed.

Halligan Hook,

Assuming you weren't at the job, and probably not on the job either. But you heard wrong. I was the 1st due engine officer. The window was not taken "pre-maturely," it was taken after consulting with the truck boss and with the nozzle in position, ready to operate. There were no indications when we pulled up that the fire was on the 1st floor; bystanders said it was on the second floor and the 2nd floor office area was banked down. There was no smoke at ground level; just a lot of smoke coming from the roof. The truck boss found an area where he thought the fire to be, which we assumed was a window to another office on the 2nd floor. We could not find a door leading to that area. And L129's inside team was not "forced to bail;" companies were ordered out of the building by Command because of heavy fire conditions and a steel bar joist/Q-deck roof. Their withdraw was covered by E316's line. If you weren't there and you don't know what happened, don't just post crap on here to impress yourself.

vbcapt · Apr 3, 2011

HalliganHook · Apr 4, 2011

OSW said:
Halligan Hook,

Assuming you weren't at the job, and probably not on the job either. But you heard wrong. I was the 1st due engine officer. The window was not taken "pre-maturely," it was taken after consulting with the truck boss and with the nozzle in position, ready to operate. There were no indications when we pulled up that the fire was on the 1st floor; bystanders said it was on the second floor and the 2nd floor office area was banked down. There was no smoke at ground level; just a lot of smoke coming from the roof. The truck boss found an area where he thought the fire to be, which we assumed was a window to another office on the 2nd floor. We could not find a door leading to that area. And L129's inside team was not "forced to bail;" companies were ordered out of the building by Command because of heavy fire conditions and a steel bar joist/Q-deck roof. Their withdraw was covered by E316's line. If you weren't there and you don't know what happened, don't just post crap on here to impress yourself.

It is very sad that you do not even know what really happened at this fire and you were there.

And in response to your final post on the FDNY Rant before it was locked...I am sure that E-273 would LOVE you to tell them that you were there for 25-30 seconds before they got there. You and I both know that is an outright LIE, especially since you went over to 273's Officer after the fire and apologized to him because you and the ECC "did not see you guys coming, but the guys on the back-step said you were right there". You japped them out and they were right there when you made the turn onto 34th Avenue. And it does not matter what the NYFIRS report shows, people besides you were there and they are telling a MUCH different story than you.

OSW · Apr 4, 2011

As I said before, I don't know where the hell you get your info. I didn't apologize to anyone, because there was nothing for which to apologize. We made the intersection, E273 was nowhere in sight, people were waving us into the block, and the building was on fire. Nobody is going to sit around waiting to see who shows up next. Times from the MDT don't lie; maybe you do.
You have any other questions I can answer for you, stop by the firehouse. Otherwise, if you weren't at the job and you don't know what happened, then STFU.

truck4 · Apr 4, 2011

If you guys want to continue this "discussion," then use the PM feature. I think we're good here.

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