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auxlteng225 said:
Mack,  great post on 310/174. Prior to the forming of Ladder 174 Engine 310 ran with a Ward QUAD rig for a good number of years. I know it was there in the fifties. A real long rig with a bunch of ladders plus regular engine company equipment. Also, although I might be wrong, I do believe that they ran with an extra man or two above the normal engine compliment of riding crews. There should be pictures of that Ward some where on the net.
  E310's Quad (Shop #2613) was originally assigned to E96 then swapped for E310's 1951 Ward LaFrance (#2609) and it served at 310 until it was reassigned to E323 and E310 got E323's 1953 Ward LaFrance (#3305).
 
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68jk09 said:
C'VILLE 7111 said:
Like this maybe?

  Looks like 267 is on building inspection....the old masonite sign on the rear side of the Rig & the Officer sitting in the Rig doing paperwork & the FFs off doing an inspection.....the sign explaining that the Unit was in service but performing inspections was later made out of vinyl then went by the wayside around the end of the '80s.

Photo from FAJ.
  E267 got this 1951 WLF Quad (#2614) which was originally assigned to L76 after L76 got a new 1955 FWD 75ft. wood aerial.
 
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guitarman314 Thanks for all that info. Do you, or anybody else know what the ladder compliment on those quads were ? 
 

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68jk09 said:
In regard to reply # 1453 on LAD*174....when 174 was organized in 1966 their budget line as well as  some of the Members came from SQ*8 which was disbanded at that time....174s 1st Rig if i remember was  a '55 FWD wooden aerial then later on they had a hand me down '68 or '69 ALF .

1955 FWD 75 ft wooden aerial ladders:

   

   

Ladder 15 1955 FWD:

   
 
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mack said:
Engine 310/Ladder 174  firehouse  5105 Snyder Avenue  East Flatbush, Brooklyn
In April 2012, Engine 310 temporarily moved to Engine 248 and Ladder 174 moved in with Engine 283.

Does anyone recall in what month the companies returned?
 
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auxlteng225 said:
You can also see above the door of the fire house Engine 310 Ladder 160. That company was never formed there.

At the time Ladder 174 was organized, the originally planned Ladder 160 for that firehouse still had not been organized, yet the number was not used.  Available unused Brooklyn ladder numbers 133 and 145 could also have been used.  Ladder 145 was even planned for the same general area, on Sheffield Ave.
 
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Not sure of the date of return.  E 310 was in with E 248 for quite a while due to delays in renovations.
 

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memory master said:
wfd444 said:
What ladder was planned at ENG 296 in Queens?
L130 was originally quartered with E296 and then moved in with E297 when the new firehouse was built in 1930.

Engine 296/Ladder 130  firehouse 14-11 114th Street  College Point, Queens                    Engine 296 disbanded

    Hose 8 organized 18-18 125th Street in former volunteer firehouse                  1908
    Hose 8 became Engine 296                                                                            1918
    Engine 296 disbanded                                                                                    1961

    Ladder 80 organized 18-18 125th Street in former volunteer firehouse w/Hose 8 1908
    Ladder 80 became Ladder 130                                                                        1913
    Ladder 130 moved new firehouse 119-11 14th Road w/Engine 297                    1931


18-18 125th Street firehouse (picture pre-FDNY):

   

18-18 125th Street firehouse - FDNY Ladder 80 and Hose 8 (became Ladder 130 and Engine 296):

   


College Point pre-FDNY fire protection:

    College Point originally protected by volunteer College Point Fire Department 1863-1908: 
     
          Eagle Ladder 1                1863-1908  (located 18-18 125th Street firehouse)
         
          Enterprise Hose 2            1863-1908
             
         
          Touch Down Steamer      Unknown-1908
         
          Union Engine 1                1860-1864
         
          Union Bucket Company 1  1857-1860
         
          Union Hose 1                  1857-1908
             

             

          College Point FD hose company responding:

             
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LAD*8 FH RENOVATION PLANNED.... An interesting thing in the article is that they mention that years ago the FH originally a 2 bay FH on the West side of Varick St at North Moore St was cut in half & one half was moved to the present location on the East side of Varick St.....what they do not mention is that one would think they would have demolished the old right hand bay & move the left hand bay but they did just the opposite ...... www.ufanyc.org/cms/contents/view/19250


 

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For years there was a photo of the 'double' house hanging in the hallway of Manhattan Communications. Half of the house was lost when the street was widen when the subway was built so I was told over the years.  From history, Lad 8's section section responded from Eng 30 on Spring St. - Engine 30. 
 

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Ladder 8/Ladder 8-2  firehouse  14 North Moore Street  Tribeca, Manhattan

    Ladder 8 organized 153 Franklin Street former volunteer firehouse                    1865
    Ladder 8 moved 7 North Moore Street former volunteer firehouse                      1869
    Ladder 8 new firehouse 14 North Moore Street                                                1905
    Ladder 8 moved 278 Spring Street at Engine 30                                              1914
    Ladder 8 returned 14 North Moore Street                                                        1915
    Ladder 8 disbanded                                                                                        1975
    Ladder 8 reorganized 14 North Moore Street                                                    1975

    Ladder 8-2 organized 14 North Moore Street at Ladder 8                                  1905
    Ladder 8-2 disbanded                                                                                    1905
    Ladder 8-2 reorganized 14 North Moore Street at Ladder 8                                1906
    Ladder 8-2 disbanded                                                                                    1914
    Ladder 8-2 reorganized 278 Spring Street at Engine 30                                    1917 
    Ladder 8-2 moved 14 North Moore Street at Ladder 8                                      1917
    Ladder 8-2 disbanded                                                                                    1918


153 Franklin Street former Ladder 8 firehouse (quarters of volunteer Knickerbocker Ladder 11  1852-1865):
 
    Current:
   

   


7 North Moore Street former Ladder 8 firehouse (quarters of volunteer Mohawk Engine 16 1860-1865):

    1980s:
   

    Current:
   

   


14 North Moore Street firehouse:

    Pre-1914 original double company design:
   


14 North Moore Street firehouse:

    1980s:
   

    Current:
   

   

   

   

   


Ladder 8 apparatus:
   
    City service ladder:
   

    1892:
   

    1906 ALF:
   

   

    Dederick aerial:
   

    1931 ALF 75 ft.:
   

   

   

    1955 FWD 75 ft:
   

    1960 ALF:
   

    2001 Seagrave:
   

   

   


Ladder 8 videos:

    Responding:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUK2rh1c6hE

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JS-5hzvYlJM

    New Ferrara:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRiJvgY_9XA


Ladder 8 history:

    1914-1915 firehouse redesigned (cut in half): 

          In 1914, Varick Street was widened by 30 feet to connect with 7th Avenue.  FDNY looked at property across the street as a site for a replacement building.  Fire Commissioner Robert Adamson decided to cut the firehouse in half.  The cost to buy the site across the street would have been $110,000 and the cost of razing the existing building would have added another $25,000. Reducing the double company to a single one and renovating the structure to half its size instead cost only $20,000.  Ladder 8 was relocated to Engine 30.  The firehouse alterations, completed in 1915, were almost invisible. The limestone cornices, carved stone brackets and windows were all expertly copied.

          http://daytoninmanhattan.blogspot.com/2011/11/1904-hook-and-ladder-company-no-8-14.html


      Ladder 8 - scaling ladder rescue - October 25, 1916:

          Ladder 8 responded to a fire in a factory building at 21-25 East Houston Street.  The building was engulfed in flames and working girls were trapped inside. Ida Goldberg, appeared in a seventh story window with no way out.  FF John Walsh hung his scaling ladder from the cornice of an adjoining building and, by ?swinging like a pendulum" was able to grab the girl by the arm. Though a slip meant death, he brought her to safety,? praised The New York Times.  Commissioner Adamson called the action ?one of the finest rescues in the history of the New York Fire Department. Walsh was awarded the James Gordon Bennett and Dr Harry M. Archer Medals of Valor for this rescue.  FF Michael Sloane was awarded the Strong Medal.  Captain John E Farley was awarded a Department Medal.

         

          1917 FDNY medal recipients (three Ladder 8 members - scaling ladder rescue):

             
              Captain Farley front right; FF Walsh front 2nd from left; FF Sloane back 4th from left


Ladder 8 LODDs:

    FF Carl H. Bischoff, Ladder 8, Manhattan box 4-4-71, 200 Broadway, fire in Models Sporting Goods store, fell through hole from 4th floor, July 5, 1941

         

         

         


    FF Frank E. Wolf, Ladder 8, Manhattan box 175, Mott and Canal Streets, died from injuries, apparatus accident, December 16, 1951

         


    FF William D. Prange, Ladder 8, relocating to Ladder 102, died from injuries, apparatus accident, December 9, 1976

         


    LT Vincent G. Halloran, Ladder 8, World Trade Center, September 11, 2011

                   
         
         


    Never forget.



Ladder 8 firehouse - used in 1984 and 1989 Ghostbusters and Ghostbusters II movies:

   



Tribeca:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribeca








 
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In the photo of the 1960 ALF w/plywood covering this was the Rig used by 8 when interchanging w/102.
 
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Don't know if they still have them but 8 Truck had an interesting collection of melted telephones near the housewatch desk. Souvenirs of past jobs.
 

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1261Truckie said:
Don't know if they still have them but 8 Truck had an interesting collection of melted telephones near the housewatch desk. Souvenirs of past jobs.

Ladder 8 housewatch display:

   


Wall display:

   
 
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