If I'm not mistaken, neither of the latest ALFs were ordered by FDNY, but were donated after 9/11. ALF does have a long history with FDNY, though. Problem is, those old ALFs (700 series & older) were made by a totally different American LaFrance, which hasn't existed since the Elmira plant was closed in 1985. Quality of ALFs began to slide when it was bought by A.T.O. in 1966, continued under Figgie International, and has never really recovered. In my mind, the lowest point came in the early 70's with the "Pioneer", a REAL rust bucket (I know, I owned two of them, and they literally fell apart from the rust). It's almost as bad as the Ahrens Fox name showing up on HME pumpers now.