5/4/26 Manhattan 3rd Alarm Box 849

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Signal73

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Fire Location: 230 West 49 St

B-9 gave the 10-75

Fire in a theater

CIDS:
6 story 125 X 100 Class 1
Eugene O'Neil Theater
Partial Sprinklered
Stairs A & B have standpipes
Class 3 Alarm Pannel in the cellar

L-2 Fast

B-9 All Hands. Fire on the top floor of a story 100 X 50. 2 L/S 1 in Opp

E-54,65,23,8,34
L-4,21,2(Fast),35
B-9,8
R-1
Sq-18
D-3
Rac-1

B-9 Transmit a 2nd Alarm. Have all units stage 8th Ave & West 49th St

2nd Alarm
E-21,39,40
E-9 w/ Sat. 1
L-16,3s/c, 43 Act. 2s/c,24s/c,12s/c
B-6(FF)
B-10(RUL)
B-2(Safety)
RB,SB
FC
Tac-1
RM
CTU-1

B-9 We got water on the fire. Searches in progress

*Staging West 47th St & 8th Ave*

D-3 MBFKD can we have 2 additional trucks

D-3 give us 2 additional trucks

D-3 Transmit a Full 3rd Alarm @10:53

3rd Alarm
E-26,58 Act. 54,1,74,7(Comm),16s/c,4s/c
L-7,5
B-45(FF)
B-7(Staging)
B-43(ARC)
B-32s/c,11s/c
Rac-3
MSU
Car-12A(Executive Officer to The Chief of Safety Command)
Car-13R(BFP Special Inspection Unit)
Car-8(Staten Island Borough Commander)
Car-24(Director of Breau of Logistics & Support)
Car-22C(Director of Fleet Services)

FC per Car-8 Truck companies opening up hitting pockets of fire & ventilating. DWH

FC per Car-8 AVFKD. Primaries complete & negative throughout. Trucks still opening up hitting pockets of fire. PWH

FC s/c 2 Engines for relief

FC s/c 2 Battalion Chiefs

Exposures:
1. Street
2. 14 Story Building
3. Unknown
4. 7 Story MD

Relocations:
Squad 288 to Rescue 1
Engine 81 Act. Engine 74
Engine 230 Act. Engine 1
Engine 68 Act. Engine 8
Engine 55 Act. Engine 34
Engine 237 Act. Engine 9
Engine 273 Act. Engine 21
Engine 312 Act. Engine 39
Engine 219 Act. Engine 40
Engine 58 Act. Engine 54
Engine 80 Act. Engine 54
Ladder 132 Act. Ladder 4
Ladder 117 Act. Ladder 7
Ladder 116 Act. Ladder ??
Ladder 125 Act. Ladder 24
Ladder 43 Act. Ladder 2
Ladder 19 Act. Ladder 2
Ladder 148 Act. Ladder 5
Ladder 17 Act. Ladder 12
Battalion 16 Act. Battalion 9

*Citizen App Photo*

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What’s causing so many multiple alarms?

And not just many 2nd alarms, this is crazy; past 24 hours there’s been 2 2nd Alarms (1 BX, 1 QN), 2 3rd Alarms (both in MN), and 2 4th alarms (1 BK, 1 QN). And a 5th alarm only last week as well.
 
Having worked as the Captain of Engine 26, for 8 years, I know these Broadway Theaters, and they are very complex and also often very old. No two Broadway Theaters are the same. We had a few fires in these theaters when I was active, that never amounted to much, but it was indeed very hard to locate the source of the fire due to the complex construction, that evolved over the many years since they were built. In 30 years in the FDNY, Midtown was the most complex area in NYC that I ever worked in. Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
DanielRJ3 said:
What’s causing so many multiple alarms?

And not just many 2nd alarms, this is crazy; past 24 hours there’s been 2 2nd Alarms (1 BX, 1 QN), 2 3rd Alarms (both in MN), and 2 4th alarms (1 BK, 1 QN). And a 5th alarm only last week as well.
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I made this comment on another thread a week ago or so.

"My girlfriend who knows I follow this forum and fires online who has no knowledge of FDNY ops said the same thing to me last week."

She said it again today, what is going on? She works in midtown and we live in Brooklyn.

I just told her the people online are puzzled also. Major fires are up lately.
 
I could make a comment about reduced manning in some FDNY units. But when you appoint firefighters based on city residency, that are given a 10-point advantage just for living in the city, instead of their ability and fitness for firefighting you are rolling the dice. "Merit matters" not any other criteria. FDNY has many great firefighters who try to do their best but are they getting the support they need? laws need to be enforced and also changed to deal with the realities of firefighting in today's buildings. Flashover now happens much sooner than years ago. Some tests say in as little as 1 Minute & 34 Seconds, flashover often occurs. Just some of the problems the FDNY now faces. I love the job and wish I was 21 again but I am proud of the FDNY Firefighters who do the best they can with the problems that have been created.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
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