5/4/26 Manhattan 3rd Alarm Box 1791

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Signal73

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Fire Location: 207 Dyckman St

Fire top floor of a 6 story MD

E-95,93,67,81,84
L-36,45,59(Fast),46
B-13,27
R-3
Sq-41
D-7
Rac-3

2nd Alarm
E-79,88,76
E-72 w/ Sat. 2
L-37
B-19(FF)
B-17(RUL)
B-16(Safety)
SB
Tac-1
CTU-1

3rd Alarm
E-43,75,46,92,35(Comm)
L-33,34,40s/c
B-26(FF)
B-14(Staging)
FC
Car-4E(DAC of CTEP)
Car-3(Chief of Department)
Car-421(Acting Command Chief. D3)
Car-4(Chief of operations)
Car-12A(Executive Officer to The Chief of Safety Command)
Car-1(Fire Commissioner)

Relocations:
Engine 26 Act. Engine 95
Ladder 5 Act. Ladder 36
 
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Let me see if I have this straight. They send Car 421- the Third Division Deputy- to Inwood, to tell the Seventh Division Deputy how to run his fire.
And Car 3 is already there. Seems like HR is gonna have to get involved.
 
Signal73 said:
Fire Location: 207 Dyckman St

Fire top floor of a 6 story MD

E-95,93,67,81,84
L-36,45,59(Fast),46
B-13,27
R-3
Sq-41
D-7
Rac-3

2nd Alarm
E-79,88,76
E-72 w/ Sat. 2
L-37
B-19(FF)
B-17(RUL)
B-16(Safety)
SB
Tac-1
CTU-1

3rd Alarm
E-43,75,46,92,35(Comm)
L-33,34,40s/c
B-26(FF)
B-14(Staging)
FC

Relocations:
Engine 26 Act. Engine 95
Ladder 5 Act. Ladder 36
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Report of fire 2nd floor
6 story 50'x40' Class 3 Mixed Occupancy

Box loaded up

L36 gave 10-75

B13 gave All Hands (00:41 hrs.)

B13: (1) 10-45 No Code

B13: (2) add'l 10-45s No Code

D7: transmit 2nd Alarm (00:52 hrs.)

D7: 2 L/S, 1 L/O - 3rd line being stretched - fire went up the stairwell and into (2) apts. on top floor

D7: transmit 3rd Alarm (00:58 hrs.)

Staging Area: Sherman Ave. & Thayer St.

D7: (8) 10-45s No Code

D7: assign L2 to the Box, we put them to work

D7: s/c (2) trucks (L2 act. L36 & L56)

D7: we now have (10) 10-45s No Code

D7: 3 L/S/O - fire in multiple apts.

D7: (2) add'l Trucks (L44 act. L46 & L17 act. L33)

FC: (12) 10-45s - (3) Code 1, (5) Code 2, (2) Code 3, (2) Code 4

UC (duration 2 hr. 24 min.)

E76 act. E95
E26 act. E95
B1 act. B16
L2 act. L36
L5 act. L36
L17 act. L33
L41 act. L33
E91 act. E84
E54 act. E93
E64 act. E79
L35 act. L45
L15 act. L35
E97 act. E46
L44 act. L46
 
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Apparently fire was in the stairwell again and victims found there. Unknown if door was left open or what still under investigation but very sad. Prayers.
 
Signal73 said:
Fire Location: 207 Dyckman St

Fire top floor of a 6 story MD

E-95,93,67,81,84
L-36,45,59(Fast),46
B-13,27
R-3
Sq-41
D-7
Rac-3

2nd Alarm
E-79,88,76
E-72 w/ Sat. 2
L-37
B-19(FF)
B-17(RUL)
B-16(Safety)
SB
Tac-1
CTU-1

3rd Alarm
E-43,75,46,92,35(Comm)
L-33,34,40s/c
B-26(FF)
B-14(Staging)
FC

Relocations:
Engine 26 Act. Engine 95
Ladder 5 Act. Ladder 36
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Add C4E C3 DC3(421) C4 C12A C1
 
8060rock said:
Report of fire 2nd floor
6 story 50'x40' Class 3 Mixed Occupancy

Box loaded up

L36 gave 10-75

B13 gave All Hands (00:41 hrs.)

B13: (1) 10-45 No Code

B13: (2) add'l 10-45s No Code

D7: transmit 2nd Alarm (00:52 hrs.)

D7: 2 L/S, 1 L/O - 3rd line being stretched - fire went up the stairwell and into (2) apts. on top floor

D7: transmit 3rd Alarm (00:58 hrs.)

Staging Area: Sherman Ave. & Thayer St.

D7: (8) 10-45s No Code

D7: assign L2 to the Box, we put them to work

D7: s/c (2) trucks (L2 act. L36 & L56)

D7: we now have (10) 10-45s No Code

D7: 3 L/S/O - fire in multiple apts.

D7: (2) add'l Trucks (L44 act. L46 & L17)

FC: (12) 10-45s - (3) Code 1, (5) Code 2, (2) Code 3, (2) Code 4

E76 act. E95
E26 act. E95
B1 act. B16
L2 act. L36
E91 act. E84
E54 act. E93
L35 act. L45
L15 act. L35
L44 act. L46
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Thank you as always Dan for the help
 
entropychaser said:
Let me see if I have this straight. They send Car 421- the Third Division Deputy- to Inwood, to tell the Seventh Division Deputy how to run his fire.
And Car 3 is already there. Seems like HR is gonna have to get involved.
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I think it's a seniority thing - they assign 421 and 422 (when needed) to deputies who have time in rank. Now, you may argue that doesn't matter, but I think that's the logic.

Furthermore, if you don't like the concept of 421 you probably don't like the concept of the citywide tour commander in general as the personnel all passed the same test (deputy) and the only difference between the deputies and the DAC (or AC) in the citywide roles is an appointment.
 
HFN01 said:
I think it's a seniority thing - they assign 421 and 422 (when needed) to deputies who have time in rank. Now, you may argue that doesn't matter, but I think that's the logic.

Furthermore, if you don't like the concept of 421 you probably don't like the concept of the citywide tour commander in general as the personnel all passed the same test (deputy) and the only difference between the deputies and the DAC (or AC) in the citywide roles is an appointment.
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All very true. Somebody has gotta be in charge.

In Houston, a previous Department Chief was an out-of-town DEI hire; nice person, good resume. A veteran District Chief observed that the guy had never been an IC at any fire bigger than an outhouse. If he went to an incident, he would talk to the press- the Mayor would be happy and the press were too stupid to know any better. Otherwise, he was wise to limit his involvement to asking the IC if he needed anything.
 
entropychaser said:
Let me see if I have this straight. They send Car 421- the Third Division Deputy- to Inwood, to tell the Seventh Division Deputy how to run his fire.
And Car 3 is already there. Seems like HR is gonna have to get involved.
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421 and 422 is to cover the city. 4E was still at the 4th Alarm. They are to “cover” the citywide while the CWTC is busy. Yes Car 3 responded and so did everyone else but they are coming from Brooklyn. Div 3 was there before any of the staff chiefs from Brooklyn. It’s not telling another Chief of the same rank what to do. It’s helping with the fire just like can other multiple. Div 7 is dealing with multiple patients…
 
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