11/11/26 Brooklyn 4th Alarm 10-60 Box 3741

Skyler Fire said:
From what I heard it was 3 Reserve Rescues and 1 Reserve Squad which all should be returned today.

New Rochelle and Long Island seemed to be called for extra Transits but wasn’t called by FDNY so might have been some miscommunications on why they called them.
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Any clue what the coverage of rescues and squads looked like at the height of this?

I seem to remember looking last night and it was only an All Hands 10-60, and then this all happened when I looked this morning (UK time), definitely was a shock to look through and read. Prayers for all the families and victims!
 
DanielRJ3 said:
Any clue what the coverage of rescues and squads looked like at the height of this?

I seem to remember looking last night and it was only an All Hands 10-60, and then this all happened when I looked this morning (UK time), definitely was a shock to look through and read. Prayers for all the families and victims!
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SQ8 covered Richmond
SQ270 covered Brooklyn
R4 had Queens
SQ18 R1 had Manhattan
R3 SQ41 SQ61 had The Bronx

When SQ270 was called to scene R15 & R12 was in the process of being staffed
 
Skyler Fire said:
SQ8 covered Richmond
SQ270 covered Brooklyn
R4 had Queens
SQ18 R1 had Manhattan
R3 SQ41 SQ61 had The Bronx

When SQ270 was called to scene R15 & R12 was in the process of being staffed
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Read somewhere at least one of the reserve rescues covered an area at some point??
 
DanielRJ3 said:
Read somewhere at least one of the reserve rescues covered an area at some point??
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Yes very possible. Supposed to be one SOC unit to cover each Boro. I can’t remember the order but if all rescues are out R4 is supposed to be covered then 2 then 1 I believe. Squads I believe it’s 1, 288, 41, 18, 270
 
Skyler Fire said:
From what I heard it was 3 Reserve Rescues and 1 Reserve Squad which all should be returned today.

New Rochelle and Long Island seemed to be called for extra Transits but wasn’t called by FDNY so might have been some miscommunications on why they called them.
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Who from Long Island ended up operating?
 
Total count of all the units assigned, Box 3741 (final):

Engines: 63
Trucks: 67
Battalions: 30
Division: 1
Rescues: 8 (R-2, 4, 5; reserve R-11, 12, 13, 15; New Rochelle FD Rescue 4)
Squads: 5 (SQ-1, 252, 288, 270; reserve SQ-800)
SOC units: 8 (RB, Collapse Rescue 2, Tac-1, Tac-2, HM-1, HMB, SOC Logistics, SOC Compressor)
Total: 182
Special calls: 154
E: 46, L: 69, B: 28, R: 5, SQ: 5, Tac-1
 
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Just thought of something. At somepoint mcc1 asked for portable lighting. Doesn't PD have a mobile light truck? I think its MALT4.
 
SizeUp said:
Total Count of all the units assigned, Box 3741 (as of 12:45):

Engines: 60
Trucks: 67
Battalions: 28
Division: 1
Rescues: 8 (R-2, 4, 5; reserve R-11, 12, 13, 15; New Rochelle FD Rescue 4)
Squads: 4 (SQ-1, 252, 288, 270)
SOC units: 8 (RB, Collapse Rescue 2, Tac-1, Tac-2, HM-1, HMB, SOC Logistics, SOC Compressor)

Total: 176

Special calls: 141
E: 42, L: 65, B: 24, R: 5, SQ: 4, Tac-1
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R12 was using R2
SQ800 was called to scene also. Manned by SQ8 today Unkown about last night

Also was a Task Force Type 4 deployment
 
When, if ever before yesterday did the FDNY have NINE rescue companies in service at the same time? Seems to me that the guy who came up with the idea of having a fully stocked spare for every rescue ought to get a medal. And maybe they ought to think about getting something (not necessarily a rescue) with a crane on it for situations like this. The photo shows a really big, heavy lift one that would probably not be a great idea for FDNY due to maneuverability and setup room concerns, but you get the idea (I hope).
 

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raybrag said:
When, if ever before yesterday did the FDNY have NINE rescue companies in service at the same time? Seems to me that the guy who came up with the idea of having a fully stocked spare for every rescue ought to get a medal. And maybe they ought to think about getting something (not necessarily a rescue) with a crane on it for situations like this. The photo shows a really big, heavy lift one that would probably not be a great idea for FDNY due to maneuverability and setup room concerns, but you get the idea (I hope).
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The Plan was to make the new collapse rigs into 4 door rigs and to have them be the spares / reserves also so they can be manned like this. They were trying to do this with the current squads to have a few reserve squads but it doesn’t seem like they are gonna have enough as SQ1, 252, 270 rigs are shot and not fixing.

Seems like SQ41, 61, 18 and 8 will be the spares and making 8 to 800 again
 
RCL said:
Just thought of something. At somepoint mcc1 asked for portable lighting. Doesn't PD have a mobile light truck? I think its MALT4.
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MALT4 was 84; I assume they had to switch crews out, so they took up around 11 last night. OEM mainly supplies the portable lights
 
seniorofficer said:
Watching the live coverage this morning, many Brothers digging by hand through the rubble with clouds of dust around them - and NOBODY IS WEARING A MASK. ConEd vac trucks are removing crumpled plaster, but not mitigating the dust cloud.
What could be in that plaster dust etc. that they are breathing in, and where is the safety protocols that should be in place?!!
For incidents like this, why not have on hand filters that can be attached to our facepieces, similar to what was issued at the WTC site. MSU could have cartons of these at the ready and throw them on the van.

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@seniorofficer, GREAT COMMENT!!! Buildings of this vintage are full of asbestos and lead, not to mention silica in the plaster. This is a nightmare for the responders' lungs. I thought after 9-11, ISOs would have procedures for respiratory protection on building collapses.

As an OHS/EM specialist for 20+ years, I have worked with USAR teams here in Canada who are all assigned air-purifying respirators, and I highlight the issue during emergency exercises.
 
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