Any clue what the coverage of rescues and squads looked like at the height of this?From what I heard it was 3 Reserve Rescues and 1 Reserve Squad which all should be returned today.
New Rochelle and Long Island seemed to be called for extra Transits but wasn’t called by FDNY so might have been some miscommunications on why they called them.
SQ8 covered RichmondAny clue what the coverage of rescues and squads looked like at the height of this?
I seem to remember looking last night and it was only an All Hands 10-60, and then this all happened when I looked this morning (UK time), definitely was a shock to look through and read. Prayers for all the families and victims!
Read somewhere at least one of the reserve rescues covered an area at some point??SQ8 covered Richmond
SQ270 covered Brooklyn
R4 had Queens
SQ18 R1 had Manhattan
R3 SQ41 SQ61 had The Bronx
When SQ270 was called to scene R15 & R12 was in the process of being staffed
Yes very possible. Supposed to be one SOC unit to cover each Boro. I can’t remember the order but if all rescues are out R4 is supposed to be covered then 2 then 1 I believe. Squads I believe it’s 1, 288, 41, 18, 270Read somewhere at least one of the reserve rescues covered an area at some point??
Who from Long Island ended up operating?From what I heard it was 3 Reserve Rescues and 1 Reserve Squad which all should be returned today.
New Rochelle and Long Island seemed to be called for extra Transits but wasn’t called by FDNY so might have been some miscommunications on why they called them.
Not sure I just know they were asked who had transitsWho from Long Island ended up operating?
AgreedExcellent rundowns, thank you all. Tragic event. prayers to all including the first responders. Units 10-84 at some point recently I don’t think I saw in rundowns:
TL144, L108, L59, TL45, L173, L166, L80, L28, L48
BC22, 8, 18, 4, 35
E162
R12 was using R2Total Count of all the units assigned, Box 3741 (as of 12:45):
Engines: 60
Trucks: 67
Battalions: 28
Division: 1
Rescues: 8 (R-2, 4, 5; reserve R-11, 12, 13, 15; New Rochelle FD Rescue 4)
Squads: 4 (SQ-1, 252, 288, 270)
SOC units: 8 (RB, Collapse Rescue 2, Tac-1, Tac-2, HM-1, HMB, SOC Logistics, SOC Compressor)
Total: 176
Special calls: 141
E: 42, L: 65, B: 24, R: 5, SQ: 4, Tac-1
The Plan was to make the new collapse rigs into 4 door rigs and to have them be the spares / reserves also so they can be manned like this. They were trying to do this with the current squads to have a few reserve squads but it doesn’t seem like they are gonna have enough as SQ1, 252, 270 rigs are shot and not fixing.When, if ever before yesterday did the FDNY have NINE rescue companies in service at the same time? Seems to me that the guy who came up with the idea of having a fully stocked spare for every rescue ought to get a medal. And maybe they ought to think about getting something (not necessarily a rescue) with a crane on it for situations like this. The photo shows a really big, heavy lift one that would probably not be a great idea for FDNY due to maneuverability and setup room concerns, but you get the idea (I hope).
OEM suppliesJust thought of something. At somepoint mcc1 asked for portable lighting. Doesn't PD have a mobile light truck? I think its MALT4.
MALT4 was 84; I assume they had to switch crews out, so they took up around 11 last night. OEM mainly supplies the portable lightsJust thought of something. At somepoint mcc1 asked for portable lighting. Doesn't PD have a mobile light truck? I think its MALT4.
@seniorofficer, GREAT COMMENT!!! Buildings of this vintage are full of asbestos and lead, not to mention silica in the plaster. This is a nightmare for the responders' lungs. I thought after 9-11, ISOs would have procedures for respiratory protection on building collapses.Watching the live coverage this morning, many Brothers digging by hand through the rubble with clouds of dust around them - and NOBODY IS WEARING A MASK. ConEd vac trucks are removing crumpled plaster, but not mitigating the dust cloud.
What could be in that plaster dust etc. that they are breathing in, and where is the safety protocols that should be in place?!!
For incidents like this, why not have on hand filters that can be attached to our facepieces, similar to what was issued at the WTC site. MSU could have cartons of these at the ready and throw them on the van.
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Wasn't sure. I looked it up. PD has 2 of those trucks and a generator truck. Along with 4 or 5 mobile generators. Just trying to piece together who had what.MALT4 was 84; I assume they had to switch crews out, so they took up around 11 last night. OEM mainly supplies the portable lights