1/4/24 Manhattan 3rd Alarm Box 1228

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UnitWithTheUrgent

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Address: 128 West 95th St. off Columbus Ave.

Fire on the 3rd floor with extension to the upper floors & cockloft of a 5 story 20x50 brownstone

Phone Alarm - Reporting smoke in the basement of 126 West 95th St. - 01:33

MD to B-11: We're getting a report of smoke from a refrigerator in the basement, and the class 3 alarm as well - 01:35

B-11: Using 1&2 investigating - 01:42

B-11: 10-75 - Fire unknown floor in a 5 story brownstone - 01:53

TL-35 FAST

B-11: Corrected address is 128 West 95th St.

B-11: All Hands - Fire on the 3rd floor - 2 L/S, 1 L/O - 01:56

B-11: Water on the fire - MBFKD - 02:00

D-3: Extra E&T (E-22 & L-2 act. 25) - 02:06

D-3: Make this a 2nd Alarm - 02:08

B-16 RUL, B-8 Safety, E-9 w/ Sat. 1

D-3: We also have fire in the cockloft - 02:10

D-3: Make this a 3rd Alarm - 02:12

B-7 Staging, B-33 Air Recon, E-46 Comm.

D-3: Special call 2 additional trucks (L-30 & TL-115 act. 13) - 02:29

D-3: 4 L/S, 3 L/O - 02:34

FC: Per C-9, Main body of fire was on the 3rd floor & penthouse - 4 L/S, 3 L/O - DWH - 02:54

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks (L-55 act. & H&L-40) - 02:57

FC: Special call a truck to relieve the FAST truck (TL-23) - 03:00

FC: Special call 2 additional trucks (L-138 act. 22 & TL-45 act. 23) - 03:11

FC: Per C-9, 5 L/S/O - DWH - 03:14

FC: Per C-9, PWH - 03:35

FC: Under Control - 04:03

Maybe:
E-76, 74, 47, 40, 22 s/c
L-22, 25, 35F, 2 (act. 25) s/c
B-11, 10
R-1
SQ-41
D-3
RAC-1

2nd Alarm Maybe:
E-84 (act.), 44, 53
L-13
B-9, 16R, 8S
FC, SB, RB, TSU-1, CTU, RM
E-9 w/ Sat. 1

3rd Alarm Maybe:
E-58, 91, 80, 39
L-43, 26, 30 s/c, 115 (act. 13) s/c, 55 (act.) s/c, 40 s/c, 23F s/c, 138 (act. 22) s/c, 45 (act. 23) s/c
B-12, 7 Staging, 33 Air Recon
E-46 Communications
MSU
RAC-3
Car-32, 9, 24, 22b, 23d

Relocations:
E-24 to E-76
E-4 to E-44
E-286 to E-58
E-16 to E-53
L-2 to L-25
L-115 to L-13
L-45 to L-23
L-138 to L-22
L-7 to L-22
L-140 to L-26
L-105 to L-7
L-51 to L-23
L-12 to L-35
B-6 to B-11
B-49 to B-12

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Darrell

Darrell

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Doesn't R3 usually respond as the rescue for calls in Manhattan above 125th or we're they on another box?
 
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BK7236

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What is the point of having run assignment cards, if you cannot even get a piece of your extra Engine/Truck boxes? I get it, this job took some investigating before they knew what they had, but as we all know they almost never send relocaters to another house before some type of signal has been given e.g. 10-75, 10-99 CPR in progress, etc. I know the proponents of this newly adopted policy will argue that getting units in as fast as possible is beneficial to overall outcome so send the closest unit in first, but what ends up in reality is aggressive companies looking to go to the job sometimes just tell the dispatcher they are closer than they actually are. In turn, they end up getting in later than the normally assigned companies--Not 100% of the time, but one could guess this happens more often than not. And no disrespect to the queens companies (TL-138 goes to a lot of fires...#1 in the city according to early buff numbers), but I am not sure how much experience they have fighting fires in brownstones or Manhattan in general.

I am curious to hear some thoughts, hope you guys don't take this the wrong way. I am not trying to make waves, just would like to see the dispatchers stick to the run card for at least the first and second alarm assignments. At the end of the day, those are the companies that are generally nearby and are at least somewhat familiar with the neighborhood and/or tactics.

Take Care
 
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FDNYSTATENISLAND

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BK7236 said:
What is the point of having run assignment cards, if you cannot even get a piece of your extra Engine/Truck boxes? I get it, this job took some investigating before they knew what they had, but as we all know they almost never send relocaters to another house before some type of signal has been given e.g. 10-75, 10-99 CPR in progress, etc. I know the proponents of this newly adopted policy will argue that getting units in as fast as possible is beneficial to overall outcome so send the closest unit in first, but what ends up in reality is aggressive companies looking to go to the job sometimes just tell the dispatcher they are closer than they actually are. In turn, they end up getting in later than the normally assigned companies--Not 100% of the time, but one could guess this happens more often than not. And no disrespect to the queens companies (TL-138 goes to a lot of fires...#1 in the city according to early buff numbers), but I am not sure how much experience they have fighting fires in brownstones or Manhattan in general.

I am curious to hear some thoughts, hope you guys don't take this the wrong way. I am not trying to make waves, just would like to see the dispatchers stick to the run card for at least the first and second alarm assignments. At the end of the day, those are the companies that are generally nearby and are at least somewhat familiar with the neighborhood and/or tactics.

Take Care
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Well said
 
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