8/28/24 Manhattan 2nd Alarm Box 0568

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Address: 574 6th Ave. at West 16th St.

Fire in a restaurant on the first floor with extension in a 4 story 40x80 mixed occupancy

Phone Alarm - Reporting smoke on the 2nd floor - 11:12

MD to B-7: Also receiving smoke from the roof - 11:14

B-7: Urgent 10-75 - We got smoke all over the block - All Hands on arrival - 11:15

L-16 (act. 24) FAST

B-7: Fire in the restaurant on the first floor - 1 line being stretched - 11:17

B-7: 1 L/S/O - Still looking for the seat of the fire - 11:20

B-7: Special call an additional truck (TL-7) - 11:21

D-1: Transmit the 2nd Alarm - 11:29

B-9 RUL, B-4 Safety, E-9 w/ Sat. 1

D-1: 3 L/S, 1 L/O - Fire in the ductwork communicating to the walls - 11:30

D-1: Send me 2 additional trucks (L-20 & TL-15 act. 12) - 11:32

D-1: 3 L/S, 2 L/O - Fire in the ductwork with extension into the walls - DWH - 11:41

D-1: MBFKD, DWH - 12:02

D-1: Send me 1 additional truck (L-25 act. 24) - 12:03

FC: Per D-1, PWH - 12:40

FC: Under Control - 12:50

Duration: 1 Houe & 39 Min.

Maybe:
E-3, 14, 5, 1, 24
L-12, 3, 16F (act. 24), 9, 7 s/c
B-7, 6
R-1
SQ-18
D-1
RAC-1

2nd Alarm Maybe:
E-26, 33, 34, 55
L-5, 20 s/c, 15 (act. 12) s/c, 25 (act. 24) s/c
B-2, 9R, 4S
FC, SB, RB, TSU-1, CTU, RM
E-9 w/ Sat. 1
Car-10

*RM unable to respond, went OOS

Relocations:
E-47 to E-1
E-262 to E-33
E-10 to E-24
L-91 to L-5
E-40 to E-14
E-224 to E-9
E-68 to E-34
E-291 to E-262
L-44 to L-7
L-15 to L-12
L-124 to L-9
L-25 to L-24
L-28 to L-24
L-113 to L-3
SQ-1 to SQ-18
B-10 to B-6
B-50 to B-9
B-31 to B-2

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We Spoke To The Diner, Who Said The Fire Was Not In The Ductwork But in between An Old Wall Due To The Heat
 
My former unit Engine 26 1st due on the 2nd Alarm. Still nice to see that Engine 26 still picks up work over a large area of Midtown Manhattan. Duck work fires tend to be very labor intensive or those in areas surrounding duct work, as they penetrate multiple floors, ceilings and sometimes also the roof. 1st thing is to trigger the duct extinguishing system, unless that has already been done. Then often best tactic is handline to termination of the duct both at the bottom and top. Apply water into the duct from above and below and hope the water and/or the steam from the streams knocks the fire down. You need a lot of ladder companies to open every point along the duct to ensure that fire has not spread out of the duct or if it has that fire is fully extinguished. Working in Midtown and Lower Manhattan for over 25 years I had quite a few of these fires.
Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired.scan0003.jpg
 
Bob Agreed ! did you speak to anyone at engine 26 that confirmed fire was in the duct work?
 
Yes Line to the roof..introduce water from the top of the duct....let those below know that this will be happening.
 
Looks like a nice old building. Wonder if they can recover and fix the building as it is.
Or see it become another high rise apartment building
 
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