1/13/26 Brooklyn 2nd Alarm Box 1464

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Signal73

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Fire Location: 512 48th St

Phone Alarm reporting a fire in a PD

B-40 gave the 10-75

Fire in a 4 story tenement

B-40 All Hands on arrival

B-40 heavy fire 3rd floor

B-40 we removed 2 10-45s from the top floor

E-201,228,282,241,247
L-114,148,109(Fast),149
B-40,48
R-2
Sq-1
D-8
Rac-5

B-40 Transmit a Full 2nd Alarm. Heavy fire out the rear possible extension

2nd Alarm
E-250,281,240,242
E-284 w/ Sat. 3
L-147,132 Act. 109
B-42(FF)
B-32(RUL)
B-41(Safety)
RB,SB
FC
Tac-2
RM-1
CTU-2

*L-132 Acting replaced L-131

D-8 Fire on the 3rd floor. Front & Rear Apartments. Water on the fire. Trucks opening up. DWH

D-8 PWH

D-8 both the 10-45s are Code 4s RMA

Relocations:
Engine 219 Act. Engine 309
Engine 55 Act. Engine 219
Engine 4 Act. Engine 242
Engine 210 Act. Engine 201
Engine 254 Act. Engine 284
Engine 243 Act. Engine 247
Engine 249 Act. Engine 282
Ladder 132 Act. Ladder 109
Ladder 156 Act. Ladder 148
Battalion 28 Act. Battalion 40

*Citizen App Photos*

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What dictates giving an all hands on a arrival vs 10-75? Dont most if not all 1075s go to an all hands? Lets say im a 1st arriving company and have visible fire out a window or that obvious heavy black smoke pumping. Not necessarily in this case but alot of times on s.i. you hear the 75 by 1st units and the chief gives all hands while en route. Would it be beneficial for that 1st unit to give the all hands on arrival?
 
BITBOF said:
What dictates giving an all hands on a arrival vs 10-75?
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Its on the discretion of the officer or chief, but more often then not its left to the chief. The officer is typically going to be worried alot more about immediately getting to work, and not as much when it comes to incident command. Obviously if they have an insane amount of fire they may got with the all hands or the second alarm if they assume that more units will be needed
 
I hope the fine for a blocked hydrant is steep enough so that they never do it again, especially when there is a fire.
 
NikFDNY said:
Its on the discretion of the officer or chief, but more often then not its left to the chief. The officer is typically going to be worried alot more about immediately getting to work, and not as much when it comes to incident command. Obviously if they have an insane amount of fire they may got with the all hands or the second alarm if they assume that more units will be needed
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Well said: additionally, it seems that a common trigger now for all hands is the responding chief requesting an extra one and one, at which point the dispatcher prompts the chief that they're going with the all hands.
 
In this case TL-114 should have crushed the car on the hydrant with the Tl Tormentor. Again, it is unsafe to raise the boom and basket of any Tower Ladder without all tormentors and jacks FULLY extended and locked. It has happened and will happen again a Tower Ladder will tip over if the tormentor are not fully extended to the ground and locked into place. Tower Ladders are designed to have the body of the rig just off the ground, so all of the weight and the pressure of the boom and bucket movement is on the frame of the TL rig not just on the tires and wheels. Also
"Don't place the tormentors of a 68,000 or 70,000 LBS Tower Ladder on soil, grass, or anything else that will not hold the weight." Captain Bob Rainey FDNY Engine 26 retired
 
it has been mentioned here before that in situations like this car parked on a hydrant instead of taking the cars windows for the supply line a summons be issued and have the car towed by the nypd....so was the car towed by the nypd?
still no deterent for parking on hydrants seems to be working
 
The issue with the Blocked Fire Hydrants is they can’t be writing tickets when they get on scene while they are fighting fires. When the fire is over the person of the vehicle is usually sitting in the vehicle so sadly no-one writes the ticket it would have to be done another way that fire prevention has been doing but would have to be a serious injury at the fire so it can stick. But you are not supposed to stand or stop at a fire hydrant so not sure even if they are in the vehicle they don’t write them. I have seen cops say they can’t because they are in the vehicle. It’s been talked about how maybe since all companies have phones some kind of app can be added the the phone so they can take 2 pictures of the vehicle and send it in that way for a ticket but at the same cost most of these vehicles are ghost cars with fake plates and if you don’t get the vin number the ticket is useless. It’s definitely an issue for sure. NYPD Traffic agents can just scan the Reg and everything gets filled in also. If you dont fill out a ticket properly they get thrown out very easy it can be as simple as using the address 3 doors down on the ticket or one number wrong on the ticket.
 
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