1/5/26 Bronx 5th Alarm Box 2750

TRAC@1854 said:
That's about an hour and five minutes give or take.But given the late night, it probably took less
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Aslo L123 to L49 which is about 55 proboably took less. The system kept most relocations to another. It's the fire season so we'll definitely see more 3-5 alarmers from now til April. I hope peope haven't removed their smoke detectors because they can go off while cooking eventhough there's no fire.
 
FDNYLover said:
103 truck to 19.. now that’s a long haul
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I think L109 to L19 would get the mileage prize.
Strange that E94/L48 were nowhere to be found. Were they operating somewhere?
First time I've heard a S/C for Rescue and Squad - to relieve a Resue and Squad. If they were basically doing truck work, why not keep them available and s/c two additional trucks?
 
seniorofficer said:
I think L109 to L19 would get the mileage prize.
Strange that E94/L48 were nowhere to be found. Were they operating somewhere?
First time I've heard a S/C for Rescue and Squad - to relieve a Resue and Squad. If they were basically doing truck work, why not keep them available and s/c two additional trucks?
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Might have been doing more specialized truck work the would require a rescue or squad
 
seniorofficer said:
I think L109 to L19 would get the mileage prize.
Strange that E94/L48 were nowhere to be found. Were they operating somewhere?
First time I've heard a S/C for Rescue and Squad - to relieve a Resue and Squad. If they were basically doing truck work, why not keep them available and s/c two additional trucks?
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I'll take a stab at your question: I think the view is that having a rescue and squad available on scene is important in case something goes sideways. Under normal circumstances, yes, they're doing truck work, but they'll be put to work alongside the FAST team if something goes wrong. In this case, it looks like the extra R and SQ were special called about an hour in, and given the intensity of the fire, R3 and SQ41 would have been working hard for an hour at that point and so, thinking along with the IC, the special calls may have been to provide some fresh SOC companies as an extra layer of insulation.

It is rare but if you follow the rundowns here I think this has been done previously a few times.
 
Dpc9600 said:
What type of “specialized truck work” would require a rescue or squad that a truck company can’t do?
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Apparently someone is pushing for additional Rescue & Squad to respond possible on the 4th Alarm. Which it’s probably only going to be a squad as it’s way to much to send a 2nd Rescue
 
airbusboeing said:
There might be certain areas were a chief would be hesitant to put a truck in that he would send a SOC company to
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Can you give me a specific example of a task, at a fire in an occupied multiple dwelling, that a chief might be hesitant to put a truck company and could only be accomplished by a SOC company?
 
Remember that the rescues are often utilized by the Chiefs as recon throughout the fire building. Whereas the truck companies are focused on a particular area and or task within the building, the rescue personnel can serve as additional eyes for IC. Yes a fire sector chief does that but having 5-6 more all over and inside the fire building helps the IC tremendously in many cases. This job certainly appears to have been a ball buster. I like HFN01’s response - the extra rescue and squad were most likely to get fresh SOC personnel there as a contingency. Either way, remember we weren’t there. So as I watch the videos, all I can say is tough job on a very cold night, everyone made it back to quarters - well done lads
 
This idea of an extra rescue and squad on the 4th alarm is interesting. I share the skepticism about whether it is required as mandatory (vs right now where the IC can special call based on their own assessment of conditions).

One thing to note is if you buy in to the idea that rescue and squad are a contingency in case things go sideways, it seems that most MAYDAYs and 10-66s occur early in incidents, *not* on the 4th or 5th alarm when often things have gone to exterior operations.
 
seniorofficer said:
I think L109 to L19 would get the mileage prize.
Strange that E94/L48 were nowhere to be found. Were they operating somewhere?
First time I've heard a S/C for Rescue and Squad - to relieve a Resue and Squad. If they were basically doing truck work, why not keep them available and s/c two additional trucks?
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Most definitely.
 
Signal73 said:
Fire Location: 1365 Findlay Ave

Phone Alarm reporting fire in a MD

B-17 gave the 10-75 @03:22

Fire in a deli on the 1st fl of a 5 story MD 75 X 75 Class

CIDS:
MD 5 story 75 X 75 Class 3
7 Apts per floor
Rear and cellar access via exposure 2
Fire escape to roof Exposure 2
AKA 316-318-320 East 170 St

Exposures:
1. Street 2. Similar 3. Rear Yard 4. Street

D-6 we are 10-84 going to be using All Hands. Get you a size up shortly

E-92,50,46,82,71
L-44,19,27(Fast),31
B-17,26
R-3
Sq-41
D-6
Rac-3

D-6 Transmit a 2nd Alarm @03:29

2nd Alarm
E-93,75,60
E-72 w/ Sat. 2
L-55
B-13(FF)
B-14(RUL)
B-19(Safety)
RB,SB
FC
Tac-1
RM-1
CTU

B-19 became available replacing B-18 as Safety

E-42 & L-49 are 10-8 if you have a box for us.

XCO remain 10-8

* Staging Grand Concourse & East 170 St*

D-6 we have heavy fire in the deli on the first floor. Trucks opening up 3 L/S 2 in Opp. Primaries underway. DWH

L-46 we are 10-8 in L-44's area

L-47 we are 10-8 in L-27's area

L-163 Act. L-31 on your frequency relocating

E-79 is 10-8 in E-50's area

L-43 Act. L-19 we are on your frequency relocating

D-6 Transmit the 3rd Alarm. extension to the floor above and adjacent store @03:47

3rd Alarm
E-79 Act. 50,42,68,43,35(Comm)
L-33,46 Act. 44,47 Act. 27
L-43 Act. 19(Fast)s/c
B-18(FF)
B-3(Staging)
B-58(ARC)
R-4s/c
Sq-61s/c
Rac-1
MSU
Car-8(Staten Island Borough Command)
Car-33(Medical Officer Brooklyn Queens & SI)
Car-22F(Supervisor of Mechanics)
Car-23D(Press Duty)

D-6 send my 3rd Alarm assignment to L-44's rig

E-89 we are 10-8 in E-82's area

L-43 we are 10-8 in L-19's area

E-22 is 10-8 in E-60's area

E-37 is 10-8 in E-71's Area

D-6 s/c an additional truck. Putting the Fast Truck to work.

D-6 we have fire that extended to the 2nd floor. 4 L/S/O Trucks still opening up DWH

B-45 is 10-8 in B-17's area

E-262 on your frequency relocating to E-42

E-273 on your frequency relocating to E-75

D-6 we need an additional Rescue & Squad company here for relief

E-307 is 10-8 in E-92's area

FC per D-6 Transmit a Full 4th Alarm @04:47

4th Alarm
E-307 Act. 92,96 Act. 50,262 Act. 42,89 Act. 82
L-167 Act. 27,59
B-45 Act. 17
Car-24B(Director Technical Services MEU)
Car-16B(Director of Communications)
Car-11X(Captain of Command Tac)
Car-4(Chief of Operations)
Car-12A(Executive Officer Chief of Safety Command)
Car-13R(Chief Fire Inspector)

FC we are going to change the staging to Morris Ave & East 170 St

B-53 on your frequency relocating to B-18

Car-4 responding to your 4th Alarm

L-125 is on your frequency relocating to L-19

FC per D-6 fire on All Floors. Removed all members from the building. Starting to hit fire from the exterior. Trench cut made. Not pulled. DWH

FC per D-6 (1) 10-45 No Code

FC per Car-8 Transmit a Full 5th Alarm @04:36

5th Alarm
E-37 Act. 71, 74 Act. 93,273 Act. 75,48,21 Act. 92s/c
E-237 Act. 92s/c,277 Act. 42s/c,221 Act. 68s/c
L-125 Act. 19,49,102 Act. 49(Fast)s/c
L-138 Act. 44s/c,32 Act. 27s/c,103 Act. 19s/c
L-162 Act. 33s/c,2 Act. 59s/c,56s/c
L-135 Act. 44s/c,11 Act. 19s/c,122 Act. 49s/c
B-10 Act. 26,16s/c,27s/c,163 Act. 31s/c,45s/c
Car-3(Chief of Department)
Car-12(Chief of Safety & Inspectional Services Command)
Car-1(Fire Commissioner)
Car-23A(Press Duty)
Car-36F(Chaplin)

E-297 on your frequency relocating to E-43

E-21 on your frequency relocating to E-92

E-301 on your frequency relocating to E-82

L-2 on your frequency

E-277 relocating to E-42

FC per Car-8 Fire on all 5 floors into the cockloft & through the roof. 5 L/S/O 2 Tower Ladder in Opp. Members in the process of extinguishing fire in the cockloft. DWH

FC s/c 2 additional Battalion Chief

B-31 on your frequency relocating to B-17

FC the previous 10-45 no code is a Green Tag RMA

L-138 is 10-8 in L-44's area

E-312 is 10-8 in E-48's Area

FC s/c 3 Truck Companies into the Command Post. 1 Needs to be a TL

B-35 is 10-8 in B-3's Area

L-102 is 10-8 in L-49's area

E-221 is 10-8 in E-68's area

FC s/c 1 truck to relieve the Fast Truck. This is for relief

FC per Car-4. (8) L/S/O. AVFKD. Still hitting pockets of fire. Trucks opening up. DWH

FC s/c 1 engine & 2 trucks into the command post. As well as a sander from DST

FC s/c 3 trucks into the command post

L-135 is 10-8 L-44's area

L-35 relocating to L-33

L-146 relocating to L-31

E-237 is 10-8 in E-92's area

FC s/c 2 Engines for relief

L-122 relocating to L-49

FC per Car-3 Special Call 1 Engines & 3 trucks into the Command Post. PWH

FC making a notification to DEEP we have E-75 stuck on a hydrant

E-294 Act. 92 we are your frequency

L-123 on your frequency relocating to L-49

E-231 on your frequency relocating to E-68

L-109 on your frequency relocating to L-19

L-119 on your frequency relocating to L-44

E-287 we are 10-8 in E-42's area

FC per Car-3 Primaries & Secondaries are complete and negative except for APT 7D. Placing this fire Under Control @07:11

Under Control @07:11 Duration:3 hours 53 Mins

Watch Line
E-90
L-48
B-20

FC taking up D-6 will be your radio contact

Relocations:
Squad 288 to Squad 61
Engine 79 Act. Engine 50
Engine 96 Act. Engine 50
Engine 89 Act. Engine 82
Engine 301 Act. Engine 82
Engine 37 Act. Engine 71
Engine 202 Act. Engine 71
Engine 22 Act. Engine 60
Engine 262 Act. Engine 42
Engine 277 Act. Engine 42
Engine 287 Act. Engine 42
Engine 297 Act. Engine 43
Engine 221 Act. Engine 68
Engine 231 Act. Engine 68
Engine 74 Act. Engine 93
Engine 26 Act. Engine 93
Engine 258 Act. Engine 312
Engine 312 Act. Engine 48
Engine 273 Act. Engine 75
Engine 307 Act. Engine 92
Engine 21 Act. Engine 92
Engine 237 Act. Engine 92
Engine 294 Act. Engine 92
Ladder 2 Act. Ladder 59
Ladder 46 Act. Ladder 44
Ladder 138 Act. Ladder 44
Ladder 135 Act. Ladder 44
Ladder 119 Act. Ladder 44
Ladder 162 Act. Ladder 33
Ladder 35 Act. Ladder 33
Ladder 47 Act. Ladder 27
Ladder 32 Act. Ladder 27
Ladder 167 Act. Ladder 27
Ladder 43 Act. Ladder 19
Ladder 125 Act. Ladder 19
Ladder 103 Act. Ladder 19
Ladder 11 Act. Ladder 19
Ladder 109 Act. Ladder 19
Ladder 163 Act. Ladder 31
Ladder 146 Act. Ladder 31
Ladder 102 Act. Ladder 49
Ladder 122 Act. Ladder 49
Ladder 123 Act. Ladder 49
Battalion 45 Act. Battalion 17
Battalion 31 Act. Battalion 17
Battalion 53 Act. Battalion 18
Battalion 10 Act. Battalion 26
Battalion 35 Act. Battalion 3


*Citizen Apps Photos & Credit given in screen shots to the Instagram users*

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gr8 pics and rundown
 
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