I believe they would have been 3rd dueCurious. Looks like E-42 may have been out on something else when this Box came in. What would they normally be due to this box?
18 Mins. between 2* & 3* Alarm. Fire was Cooking Inside while Forcing Entry, Checking 2* Fl Apt.s, & Stretching Lines.Wow.This got out of hand quickly
Not only that, but requesting an additional fast truck means that they will take some time to get there; they will probably have to park at least two blocks away and drag everything through the streets to get to the front of the building; then have to do a complete 6-sided size up on their own since the truck they're relieving won't be waiting to share any important information with them. I just think it's a tactical bad move. There's probably an engine company standing by that could be sent in with hooks while awaiting another truck.These are great companies, great firefighters and great Chief's. I must state again that putting the FAST Truck to work for NONFAST fire duty is not a good idea. Chief's if you do not have units standing by ready to go to work and a FAST/Mayday! situation/s develops what do you do? I was often Acting Battalion Chief when I was captain of Engine 26 in Midtown Manhattan. A few legendary FDNY Chief's told me the same thing. "If you don't have anyone standing by you, ready to go to work you have already screwed up."" = "Call for help or transmit the next alarm BEFORE you need it." = "Never play catch up, the fire is going to catch you unprepared if you do." I know it not easy and great Chief's are always trying to do the best they can. I just making a point. Captain Bob Rainey FDNUY Engine 26 retired
Capt, with all due respect, I have to disagree with the notion they should never put the FAST truck to work for fire duty. The example I would give, which I think happened here, is as follows: the fire is escalating, civilian lives are at risk, and the extra truck or second alarm trucks are not in yet, the IC has a choice to make. Personally, I think it makes more sense to put the FAST truck to work and replace them with the next available truck than the alternative which is to have the FAST truck standing in the street when there could be people inside needing help. Of course your emphasis on never playing catch up is the right idea, and additional alarms should be transmitted as early as possible, but there will inevitably be cases where those units just can't get to the scene fast enough and I cannot see any logic in holding a unit FAST when there is an urgent life hazard they could be dealing with and no other units on scene to address the issue.These are great companies, great firefighters and great Chief's. I must state again that putting the FAST Truck to work for NONFAST fire duty is not a good idea. Chief's if you do not have units standing by ready to go to work and a FAST/Mayday! situation/s develops what do you do? I was often Acting Battalion Chief when I was captain of Engine 26 in Midtown Manhattan. A few legendary FDNY Chief's told me the same thing. "If you don't have anyone standing by you, ready to go to work you have already screwed up."" = "Call for help or transmit the next alarm BEFORE you need it." = "Never play catch up, the fire is going to catch you unprepared if you do." I know it not easy and great Chief's are always trying to do the best they can. I just making a point. Captain Bob Rainey FDNUY Engine 26 retired